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 No.1329

>tfw my drawing skills are getting worse and I nothing is working
>Why didn't I take lessons/classes when I had the chance
>Fuckin hell kill me

 No.1330

you're clearly doing something wrong

 No.1331

>>1330
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, that's the problem. I'm following all sorts of references and drawing nearly every day. And I still can only muster a shitty Garfield on a good day.

 No.1333

>>1331
Maybe you're not thinking enough.

I think that in order to learn something, you need to consciously figure it out. From what I gather there's three categories to learning:
1. Learning new things and eliminating the mistakes that you make, whether it's the wrong shape or perception of perspective or light behavior or something.
2. Honing the above by grinding and drawing a lot (after you've temporarily memorized it), so the knowledge becomes natural to you and you can easily tell what parts need fixing and how to fix it without looking at reference.
3. The skill of being able to draw what you want to. It's the skill of being able to put the lines in the correct place to create the shape that you're thinking of, without doing ctrl+Z a million times until it happens to look right.

You could draw a hundred human figures from reference, but if you don't actually try to memorize the shapes in detail and their proportions and the way they behave and where they connect, you might not be able to draw it on your own since the information is not in your head.

I've also noticed that there's a lot of different "depths" to learning shapes. For example a hand:
1. the overall proportions and placement of fingers
2. the proportions and placement of sub-parts (joints)
3. the overall shapes of the fingers
4. some rough placement of splits and creases and wrinkles
5. more accurate shapes and angles of the flesh, and the way bones appear next to them and the directions they go
6. accurate location of creases and wrinkles and the way flesh folds
7. more accurate perception of where the flesh and skin rests on the finger, which parts are flesh or skin or bone, and how they move in relation to each other when the joints turn, and some quirks with the behavior
8. the location of skin pores and shapes and patterns(finger print)
?. the way things behave in more unusual situations/poses

For most purposes, you only need to learn up to 4, but there's a lot more to learn there if you really want to master drawing hands.

Posting art and asking more skilled people for help/critique is of course useful too, because a second pair of eyes might see things that you didn't even think of.

 No.1335

>>1333
Yeah I guess I'll work on that and stop being a drama queen. Why bitch on 8chan when I could be drawing

 No.1336

>>1335
because motivation is hard

 No.1347

>>1335

don't be so hard on yourself. fear is the mindkiller. try to do drawing because it's fun for you and not because you want to reach the point where you can stop hating your own stuff.



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