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 No.160[Reply]

We're pretty vanilla right now so submit your banners here.

We need:

-Some banners featuring criminals like Charles Manson, Dahmer or other things like that.

-I've thought about including actual chan criminals like that fag who killed Amber Lynn Coplin and posted pics on niggertits.

-Surprise me.

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 No.247

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LEL, this board.

And here I was expecting Sherlock Holmes fanboys and people discussing episodes of Case Closed.

Oh well, can't un-make these banners so have them anyway.




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 No.245[Reply]

Hello, /cm/. I just wanted to let you know that I'm the new board owner of >>>/kind/, and I'd appreciate it if you'd take the time to drop in and say hello.

 No.251

akari would never harm anyone with a boxcutter she is too sensitive and caring




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 No.217[Reply]

In high school, I had a friend who's had a younger brother. His younger brother was diagnosed with psychosis. One day, he wakes up and the kid is holding an axe over his head, right in his fucking bedroom. Another time, he came home and his brother had cut his face off every family picture in the house. They had to keep their guns in storage for a while. Things didn't go better as he aged. For his 18th birthday, he asked his parents for Mein Kampf. Last I heard of him, He was playing World of Warcraft (Supreme Gentleman's favorite game) full-time, no school, no friends, no one else. Freakiest part is that he looks good and is very well-spoken. Kid is creepy as shit.

Tell me, /cm/, which person you know in real life you think is the most likely to commit criminal acts and why?

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 No.239

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>>225

Wait. Wait. Wait. Is this your girl?


 No.241

My younger sister. If she knew she could get away with it. Would probably start with our someone in our family. Diagnosed twice as a sociopath because my parents refused to believe in the first one. I don't think anyone would have realized otherwise, but her behaviour started to click in my mind after that. She gets giddy when people are going through hard times and suffering, and she mimics the speech patterns and gestures of whomever she's speaking with. The strangest thing she did as a child was killing ants and making abstract paintings by gluing their dead bodies on paper. That was some creepy shit. Also she used to love candles and put a lot of small stuff on fire, but she was a scarily quiet, calm and well-behaved kid who was adored by adults and got away with everything.


 No.242

>>241

Psychopathy in girls is less diagnosed but probably just as much recurring.


 No.248

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>>217

>They had to keep their guns in storage for a while

>OMG! Their son being a psychopath was so disruptive to their lives that they even had to lock away THEIR GUNS. OMG!

Thank god I don't live in 'murica.


 No.250

>>239

she's a cutie




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 No.163[Reply]

Dr Michael Stone of Columbia University, a new pen-pal of mine, made a scale where he ranks murderers based on morality and ethics of their crimes. A sort of hierarchy if you want.

ITT: We rank recent cases. Try to follow the template. If you want to discuss/argue a ranking, make a new thread.

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 No.185

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Elliot Rodger would be a 16, the rank reserved for psychopaths with multiple acts of violence, having stabbed his 3 roommates to death before going on a spree with his BMW and guns.


 No.197

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Most killer cops like Darren Wilson are hard to categorize. If Michael Brown really was shot in the back, Wilson is a 5, the level reserved for people who are traumatized by their crime, which was comitted in a desperate, impulsive, heat-of-the-moment way.


 No.223

>>197

>shot in back

/leftypol/ plz


 No.224


 No.246

>>178

just looked him up

apparently he tried to kill some guy in prison

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/murder-suspect-accused-trying-kill-fellow-inmate/njhQc/




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 No.231[Reply]

In 1944, a Chinese immigrant named Si Ouey Sae Urng moved to Thailand. Between his arrival land the day of his execution by hanging in the 1950's, he is said to have murdered over half a dozen children, all males, and eaten their livers and hearts. Being the first known serial killer in Thailand history, he was hanged publicly and then put on display at a museum, where his mummified body still is exposed 60-some years later.

Isn't it ironic that we pretend to be civilized individuals who frown upon these monsters, but on the other hand, we hang them publicly, where everyone including children can see them, and leave them for everyone to see in a forensic museum? How did they justify this? What the human race is capable of never ceases to amaze me. NSFW pictures.

 No.243

Uh yeah there's a big difference between letting kids see a mummy and eating their livers.




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 No.186[Reply]

1945, Ruth Spaulding, a nurse working for one named George Hill Hodel, is found dead of an apparent overdose. Hodel, who was a physician specializing in public health and sexual transmitted diseases, is the prime suspect, having been caught intentionally misdiagnosing his patients, it is believed his secretary was trying to blackmail him. Dr Hodel had many ties with the Hollywood people, being one of Man Ray's, a highly controversial jewish performance artist, best friends (Exhibit A). Man Ray is known notably for this picture (Exhibit B).

January 15, 1947 - The body of failed actress Elizabeth Short is found cut in half with a surgical precision, drained of all her blood and with multiple slices on her body, laid in the middle of the street, the 2 pieces of the torso spaced. Her arms positioned EXACTLY like on Man Ray's Minotaur, perhaps an homage by a close friend, or perhaps a circumstancial evidence.

December 1949, George Hill Hodel, the physician, is acquitted of charges against him for having molested his daughter. He was never formally accused of the murder of his secretary.

February 18th to March 21st 1950, George Hill Hodel is put on surveillance, being a prime suspect in the death of his secretary. On the first day he is heard saying this gem: "Supposin' I did kill the Black Dahlia. They couldn't prove it now. They can't talk to my secretary anymore because she's dead… They thought there was something fishy. Anyway, now they may have figured it out. Killed her. Maybe I did kill my secretary…"

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 No.208

>>207

I always found the claim that he was something else than the Black Dahlia Avenger a bit far-fetched. At worst, he also killed the little Degnan girl but I don't think Bill Heirens was innocent of the Lipstick Murders. I mean he shot at the cops when they tried to arrest him.


 No.209

>>208

> I don't think Bill Heirens was innocent of the Lipstick Murders. I mean he shot at the cops when they tried to arrest him.

people do wild things when backed into a corner.

I wouldn't, personally, put him as the perpetrator of either the lipstick killer or the zodiac killer, but I'm open to some thoughts or theories.


 No.210

I'm glad I wasn't shot down like a crazy conspiracy theorist. Should I write about Jack the Ripper next?


 No.233

I remember the guys who made Room 237 were talking about making a documentary about The Black Dahlia. Maybe it would have featured the same sort of odd theories, but I wonder whatever happened to that project.

What do you guys think of the De Palma movie? I like the noirish style, but as a film it was probably too confusing.


 No.234

>>233

They should have went for it, man. I didn't like the De Palma movie. It was a bit too Hollywood, romanticized and not enough factual. Then again, there's not enough informations about unsolved cases that justify making a factual movie most of the time (see: Zodiac)

Solved crimes are usually good though. Helter Skelter was great. You have to remember though, that the best cases do not always make the best movies. Sometimes you have to innovate. Se7en, Silence of the Lambs, Mr Brooks were pretty good movies, none based on actual criminals.

I considered making a crime movie thread to further discuss this. And there's also documentaries like Aileen, The Jinx, Most Evil.

You should go ahead and make one if you want.




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 No.162[Reply]

Tips to start exchanging mail with inmates:

>Step 1 - Research your target

If I am mailing Gary Ridgway, who feels guillty about his crimes, I won't talk to him the same as if I am mailing Armin Meiwes.

>Step 2 - Research the state/country laws about mailing inmates

I sent a letter to Gary Ridgway who is incarcerated in Washington. If I want to send him money so he can buy chocolate and stamps to mail me back, I have to use services like JPay. They won't allow cash-in-enveloppes and many other things so check out.

>Step 3 - Establish contact

You know who and where so now, figure out what. Let's say my inmate is Charles Manson. Charlie doesn't like fangirls and lunatics. Charlie likes music and nature. You could send him a postcard of a landscape.

>Step 4 - The Wait

If you did things right, they will mail you back. Most of them are bored and will do whatever it takes to engage conversation with normies out there or help out troubled fellows.

>Precautions

-If your inmate is a psychopath, You're talking to a psychopath, so try not to talk about them in your first letter or upset them. People like Manson won't think twice about handing off your letter and its contents to other inmates who will play mind games with you.

-Don't get too involved, lie but keep track of your lies so you don't get caught up in them and you know what you said to whom.

-The inmates have no obligation to respond so you may leave empty-handed but you can always try again at another moment.

-Read The Last Victim / Watch Dear Mr. Gacy

This said, who are you mailing currently? Or who do you want to mail?

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 No.195

>>193

Inmates have better to do than tracking you down. Best they will do is fuck with you a little bit but you can call the prison and ban them from contacting you, should you need it. That's not very common either, the only inmate I know who does it unreasonably is Charles Manson. The other usually will be very happy to have mail and have a little moment of outside input for a few minutes, or know that they matter or can have a positive impact on someone outside. Just make sure you do things right, don't be a total fuckup and it will go very well. Hell, someone even had a positive relationship with Gary Heidnik, known for serving a prostitute cut up with dog food to other prostitutes who lived in a hole in his basement. Whatever you decide, the PO Box itself is not unheard of per se, but I think it's unnecessary. Even more so if your inmate is in for life.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/7850437/My-dark-companion-How-a-serial-killer-changed-a-life

Edit: Just noticed you're the guy who wanted to write to Kaczynski earlier. Go ahead man, he's very polite and he tries his darn best to give everyone a reply.

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 No.203

What's the likelihood of getting mail through to or back from the more notorious Charles Manson or Ian Brady? tips?


 No.204

>>203

Hey! Welcome by the way. It's pretty easy to get the mail through to them, look up the regulations. Some states don't allow Stamps, Cash-in-enveloppes, etc. and there's a couple of little rules here and there. Here's a FAQ from Florida DOC. If your letter doesn't get through to them, you willl either have them returned to you, or never hear from your inmate again. http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/inmates/writing.html

As for them replying to you, no two inmates are the same. My golden rule is to NEVER EVER talk about their crimes. At least not the first 3 or 4 times.

About those you asked in particular. Charlie does not always write back but he always at least reads. If something you say upset him, as I said many times before, he is the kind of guy that will hand off your letter to another inmate just to fuck with you. Send him a postcard of a landscape or something happy, guy loves the earth. Talk about ATWA. Do some research. Ask for advice.

As for Ian Brady, he is not feeling too well lately, he broke a hip. Send him get well wishes. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2920420/Moors-murderer-Ian-Brady-wishes-taken-life-years-ago.html

Always try to find a way to send them at least 5 bucks so they can buy a bag of crisps, cigarettes and a stamp, should they want to write back. Most jails have JPay, some kind of PayPal for correctional systems.

Most inmates have feelings. They're gullible and easy to manipulate. Pose as a sick boy, or an autistic person.

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/22909174.html

If you have any more questions, please don't be shy. I'm very passionate about human psPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.206

>>204

Thanks so much for your reply! It's super thorough and answered all the questions I had. Thanks especially for the tip about sending money, I'll have to look into the logistics, but thats actually a pretty good way to get a response.

I'm deeply interested in the influential power of these people rather than the actual crimes. I have some questions to ask Manson about his music and a simple 'get well soon' should suffice for Brady. I went to university for Sociology, and the Crime and Deviance side was always my favourite!

In all honesty I would be thrilled to own a personalised piece of history, and I know that may sound superficial, but the impact that these men and men such as these have had on our culture is immense. No such man like Manson has existed before or since his time !

Have you ever successfully contacted a prisoner?

Fyi, I am autistic (assburgers) but I thought that mentioning that would be a no-go since it's too personal. Probably lying about something else that can't be used to manipulate me would be better, right?


 No.232

>>206

I didn't see your answer, Sorry I took so long.

I have just started recently but it is something I have studied for a long time before I tried it. At this point, I know probably just as much as you, the rest is logic and speculations.

I sent about 6 letters to various inmates. Some answered, some didn't. I read my answers and put them in a deposit box at the bank because a. it's hard to explain if my girlfriend finds them and b. I want to keep them safe for my grandchildren to sell or keep in a couple of decades, should I pass away. I will scan the enveloppes for you next time I get a reply but not the letters as I find it disrespectful.

Again, I apologize for taking days to answer. I try my best to reply to everyone and make this board's user feel welcomed.




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 No.229[Reply]

Mine is pic related

 No.230

>>229

Oh! Vera Renczi! The Guinness World Records found no proof of her existence in 1975 and many people think she is a myth. I'm on the fence with this one but it's one hell of a good story, like the Countess Bathory.

Most female killers are romanticized by popular media, as was Aileen Wuornos, and many of them do some truly horrible things and get away with a slap on the wrist because of how good they are at playing victims.

I do not have a favorite one but if I had to chose, It would be either Dorothea Puente, the Death House Landlady, who killed 9 elder people in her care to cash in their checks, or Jeanne Weber, the french lady who murdered 10 children by strangulation, served 10 years in an asylum and then strangled herself to death with her bare hands.

Why is she your favorite?




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 No.218[Reply]

Interview with Dahmer's killer. Was very surprised to see it this morning.

https://archive.is/S0keV

 No.219

Nignog says Dahmer didn't have remorse for his actions. His priest says otherwise.

https://archive.is/Ks1py


 No.220

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Sounds like he's just a Dindu who is looking for some way to justify his actions or maybe try and make people in the prison treat him better.


 No.221

>>220

Should be noted that the murderer in question is even less repentant than Dahmer, as he finds his homicides justified and doesn't show regret. This kind of animal is beyond saving.


 No.222

Some nigger just wanted fame.




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 No.200[Reply]

Who is/was your favorite serial killer/born-again artist? I found this gem from Ed Gein.

Want more?

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 No.205

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>>202

It is somewhat relevant. I am a revisionist though, I do not believe Hitler to be a criminal.

Here is some by Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker.

1. Pieces of April

2. The Jester


 No.211

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>>205

I never knew Ramirez had an interest in drawing. It's actually very insightful.

I forgot to mention previously, but remembered suddenly when I was drifting off to sleep;

Japanese Cannibal, Issei Sagawa, makes some pretty interesting/fucked up art


 No.212

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I didn't know about these. Thanks.

Here's some by Charles Manson. Abstract but fantastic.


 No.215

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Lee Boyd Malvo, Beltway Sniper. Avoided Death Penalty for being 17 at the time of his crime.


 No.216

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Arthur Shawcross.




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 No.213[Reply]

where does /cm/ find photos of crime scenes?

 No.214

>>213

Honestly? Google Images works well. There's also paid forums like Documenting Reality that can dig further.

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/




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 No.161[Reply]

List a couple.

National:

-Aaron Hernandez

International:

-Flight 9525

Local:

???



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