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a2c7fd No.22000[Reply]

ITT history documentaries

ACCURATE ONES

I'm fucking tired of watching history channel shit and them pulling incorrect numbers out of their ass or giving soldiers uniforms that are 500 years out of date. I'm even more tired of stupid shit about bigfoot/Illuminati/aliens/ice road inbreds/etc. Any subject or era is fine, but please be accurate.

Challenge Mode:

Mature ones, not those stupid amerifat ones with ADHD rapid-fire editing and melodramatic narrators who try to talk badass. There's no shame in educational TV having educational value



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b8cca0 No.21935[Reply]

OOOOOOOOLIVER CROMWELL, LORD PROTECTOR OF ENGLAND

74940a No.21937

Oh God, couldn't listen to the whole thing, love Monty Python though


ff5967 No.21944

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>oy vey


5ef592 No.21967

In the early years of the 16th century, to combat the rising tide of religious unorthodoxy, the Pope gave Cardinal Ximinez of Spain leave to move without let or hindrance throughout the land, in a reign of violence, terror and torture that makes a smashing film. This was the Spanish Inquisition…


74940a No.21981

>>21967

NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION


bc8f5f No.21986

My town in otago, new Zealand is named after him. Also that song got me through my high school history essay question about Charles I.




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305c29 No.20762[Reply]

What exactly made the caucasian. European settlers superior to the American natives in combat and diplomacy?

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09e72c No.21943

>>20812

>settle and spread across both Americas for almost 13,000 years

>never get beyond stoneworking

>only started using bows and arrows sometime after 500 AD I think

Is this the famed "American" education?


f7fa29 No.21949

>>20793

Is this kind of SJW shitlibism common here?

Pretty sure that the Indians started the violence.


f7fa29 No.21950

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e9c1f1 No.21955

>>20800

>The Spanish and Portuguese were trying to establish empires and needed citizens for those empires, unlike the ramshackle colonies in north america that were mostly laborers and refugees who wanted an empty place to live and work.

This actually isn't the reason large portions of Peru, Mexico and Bolivia have native ancestry today - these areas are where the ancient civilisations of the Americas were located. Thus, they had much larger native populations even after the plague, and thus the Spanish ended up ruling over more people of native descent.

If you look at the parts of Latin America were there weren't any significant civilisations, such as Brazil, only 0.4% of the population is native.

But Peru is ~50% native today, and was the seat of the ancient Inca civilisation.


6b23f1 No.21978

>>21955

The Incan civilization wasn't actually that ancient. It was a few centuries old at most.




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394b35 No.21710[Reply]

ITT: we post our most favorite outlaw and gunman of the wild west

The time period I consider for the wild west is from the 1820-1920 or generally the time span the U.S. was trying to expand westward.

anyways, Captain Jonathan R. Davis was the epitome of badass. here's the story

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/captaindavis.html

Who's your favorite /his/?

394b35 No.21759

I don't know much about the west but i'll bump for intrest


5023a1 No.21778

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I'd really like some books on the settling and expansion of the west and frontier but it seems like basically everything is written with a tone of "EVIL WHITE SETTLERS STOLE FROM AND KILLED THE NOBLE NATIVES" instead of something at least a little more straightforward.

Anyway, I don't know how much you'd consider things like Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show part of "the west" but Annie Oakley still deserves mention as a badass if only for being an incredibly good shot. Wonder how she ever would've done as an Army sniper if that were ever possible.




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a53102 No.21447[Reply]

>Most people view Stilicho as a coward who let greed and intrigue devour Rome

How can he be held responsible for constantine III rebellion in Britain? If anything, the greed of Rome collapsed the empire under its own weight.

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4a10f8 No.21703

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>>21480

>>21487

i'll give you guys a short summary

>around 300 common era

>east and west Rome divided

>emperor Constantine is too shy to push for his claim to the throne, he becomes a soldier instead

>he actually survives his tour, everybody else in his side of Rome was assassinated

>people beg him to become emperor, he does

>he defeats the opposing emperor and unifies Rome

Now Constantine was a lot like Alexander the great and George S. Patton, a soldier ruler. To the Romans, somebody like this was god, and throw on the fact that he unified Rome, nobody even flinched when he announced Rome to be a christian society instead of pagan.

Now this wasn't a super big deal right away, outside of some small rebellions and assassinations. Several other things then happened simultaneously.

>the Mongols or the Huns or whatever they where were pushing Germanic barbarians away from their homelands and into Roman territory: all of them.

>All of these Germans are pagan

>there where a few years of shit harvests

So, the Germans beg Rome for quarters from the horse people, and the Romans accept: on the terms that they get to fuck their mothers, take their sons as slaves, and then sell their bodies to science

>The Germans accept, but get pissed

>most of the time these pathetic rebellions are shit on by Rome

>However, a young Roman ruler named Valens or something decides to not wait for reinforcements and takes an evenly matched battle against some Germans

>The German generalPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


8705ed No.21707

>>21703

Quality post


7da523 No.21712

>>21703

>All of these Germans are pagan

I thought most of the Germanic tribes entering Rome were Arian Christians.


66a54f No.21748

>>21703

>common era

M'lady


4a10f8 No.21774

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80e9d3 No.21490[Reply]

So I was thinking about the Marathon and its origins, with the legend of Phidippedes. I was just wondering:

>Was his feat anything special in Ancient Greece?

I say this because fitness was a major part of Greece life (I believe) so would anyone have been able to do this?

>Is the distance accurate?

Has the distance been exaggerated over the centuries, or are our Marathons simply shorter than the distance he ran?

>Do we know anything more of Phidippides?

Was he a veteran soldier, or merely a runner?

>How celebrated was his feat?

Was his feat regarded as highly as it is now? Or was his feat appreciated centuries later?

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0c4844 No.21496

>>21495

*between the city and the battlefield


80e9d3 No.21576

>>21495

Cheers anon, that makes a lot of sense now


7ea6ea No.21583

According to Wikipedia, Pheidippides' story is just a load of bullshit, and more specifically a confusing mix of anecdotes made up centuries after the fact, and supported by one single author. The source is worth what it's worth, but still…


9d028f No.21586

running was a far more essential skill than we see today; an activity

so yeah i mean they werent kenyans or nuffin but any young hek ancient wogcunt would crosscountry any day matecunt


fa6c23 No.21691

>>21586

>hek ancient wogcunt would crosscountry any day matecunt

Does this count as history? The day the Strayans unleashed their first shitposting bot?




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c321ac No.21336[Reply]

Let's talk about some non war history stuff.

Do you have any particular favorite people?

I for one, find the harappas very intriguing, and am waiting to see how they developed in comparison to other countries, when they mostly traded with Egypt[citation needed]

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1374c3 No.21409

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Hobbes


e20664 No.21421

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Virgil has always fascinated me. His poetry, his relationship with Augustus, and the depiction of him in the Divine Comedy are all quite amazing.


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000000 No.21474

>>21423

This son of a Cossack is conquering Tatar khanates and basically you are a кулак. Click here to find out


bffa52 No.21478

Archimedes. genius as f




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aee27c No.19126[Reply]

Well, we have a historical humor thread, so why not a horror one? Post your spookiest stuff.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Xianzhong

>thought he was a scourge sent by God to punish the evil people of Sichuan

>registered population of Sichuan went from 3 million to 16 thousand

>Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.

>Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.

>Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

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fc0e4b No.21400

>>21391

What about his life?


b5d1ff No.21412

>>21400

Quite an interesting life to be honest. From what I remember is that he was born as a serf in an incredibly poor family. He was illiterate and was not that smart altogether. Abruptly, he left his village to live in a monastery, perhaps having a spiritual awakening of sorts. He becomes famous as a wandering priest and miracle worker, soon being noticed by the upper-classes. After several years, he is tasked with curing the Tsar's son of [insert disease name here that means blood can not clot]. Rasputin healed him with the power of prayer (slow working aspirin) and then became an adviser to the Tsar. He radically believed that sex was the key to enlightenment and so, over the process of months, he had sex with most women of the court. The Tsar later put Rasputn and the Tsarina unofficially in charge of Russia while the Tsar went to war. This led to theories and suspicions by everyone but the Tsar that he was a manipulative man who was having sex with the Tsarina. People started labeling him the anti-Christ. He survived several assassination attempts through his life before finally being killed. Interesting man.


000000 No.21422

>>21385

Truly the most underrated phayyroh


4be019 No.21425

>>21358

Can't be bothered reading that whole page, what's spooky about this guy?


fc0e4b No.21427

>>21412

Quite a life.




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be06e0 No.21334[Reply]

>battle of agrincourt had no peasant vanguard because aristocrats did not want to arm them

What even caused this sort of mindset, and why were such handling skills forgotten by the french revolution?

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271403 No.21374

I don't see what the french rev has to do with agincourt.

A "peasant" vanguard would not have been useful (I interpret peasant as not a man-at-arms, although some wealthy peasants could have been men-at-arms) They would have been routed more swiftly than the french men-at-arms were, and their retreat would have impeded a second wave.

A dismounted attack by the men at arms was probably the French's best option. Unfortunately for them, it was more difficult to traverse the muddy field than they thought, and the "archers" lapped around and flanked them. Archers is in quotes because "archer" was a pay catergory. Many of the men paid as archers would have carried things like bills or sword and shield instead.

Modern research has demolished the myth of Agincourt. Pay records show that the French and English numbers were about even. Modern tests, corroborated by period accounts, prove that longbows were not armor-piercing superweapons.


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271403 No.21382

>>21375

Anne Curry has written a lot on this.

Here's a link about how armies were raised at the time and why OP's assumptions about nobles and peasants are wrong.

https://wapenshaw.wordpress.com/2007/06/02/myth-of-the-longbow/


5da50e No.21387


4479d6 No.21415

>>21334

>battle of agrincourt had no peasant vanguard because aristocrats did not want to arm them

I thought there was no peasant vanguard because who in their right mind would use fucking peasant vanguard?

>Hey my liege, let's save my money (or whatever reason) by not arming filthy peasants

>Hey my liege, let's not send peasants to die in mud

Which one is more sensible?




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dcb49d No.21290[Reply]

So I just got set an assignment:

>Why, after two thousand years and the Holocaust, did the Jewish population want their homeland to be Israel?

So I was thinking of writing about the Jewish-Roman Wars but I don't know too much about it to be honest, if anyone could help with that, that would be brilliant.

I was also going to write about how it is generally sacred to them so it would be an ideal choice.

As well as this I'm going to write about the years of persecution because many were seen as crooks, such as the eradication of Jews in Scotland (I believe they locked them in a wooden castle and set it alight) and the Black Hundreds in Russia.

Finally because it was really fucking far away from Germany.

Any other things to point out? Perhaps the Americans made Israel their homeland so they wouldn't come to the U.S.? Any other external factors? Any thing I haven't got right?

Cheers anons

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dcb49d No.21309

>>21307

also, what textbook do you have? might have to get it myself


923249 No.21312

>>21309

World Religions: A Historical Approach(4th Edition) by S.A Nigosian

>>21308

At the end of WWI two peoples - arabs and jews - claimed legitimacy, locked in bitter conflict over the same terrain. Then, on the eve of WWII, Britain issued a new statement of policy concerning Palestine. It represented plans for "the establishment within ten years of an independent(binational) Palestine State." The proposal was repudiated by both the arabs and jews and in limbo at the outbreak of WWII.

On May 14, 1948, the jews, under the leadership of David Ben Gurion proclaimed the establishment of the state of Israel. It represents, perhaps, the most decisive event in the entire history of Judaism.

>Messianic Age and Zionism

Jews believe that judaism has a particular role to play in the task of world redemption. Since ancient times, jewish tradition has asserted that a Messiah, will come to redeem humankind and establish Gods Kingdom on earth by ushering in an era of perfect peace. Their expectation of this is best expressed in the prayers they included for daily recitation in jewish worship:

Sound the great ram's horn to herald man's freedom;

Raise high the banner to gather all exiles…

Have mercy, O Lord, and return to Jerusalem, Your city…

Re-establish there the majesty of David, Your servant…

Hasten the advent of the Messianic redemption;

Each and every day we hope for Your deliverance.*

Thus one of the innermost strengths of Jewish survival is the belief in the vision of the Messianic age. It is a conviction about the future: the coming of the kingdom of god on earth; the restoration of the jews to their ancient homeland; aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


923249 No.21314

>>21312

* Weekday Prayer Book(New York: The Rabbinical Assembly of America, 1961), pp. 56-67


42f907 No.21326

Well it does say in the Old testament/Torah that the Jews would return to Israel, I'm actually pretty surprised they actually did it considering everyone near them wants to fucking murder them.

>inb4 good goy


923249 No.21330

>>21326

>considering everyone near them wants to fucking murder them.

mainly due to Israel's horrible treatment of the non-jewish Palestinians




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eb19be No.21043[Reply]

I heard this picture wasn't of a German soldier killing a Ukrainian Jew, anyone know of the evidence behind this?

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b1d2fe No.21227

>>21223

It's at the very least obvious that it's not a K98.

If you compare the tips of the gun in the picture and the example of the K98, the latter doesn't have that little metal "spike" below the barrel and the part of the iron sights at the front (K98 is just a metal triangle) don't match.


2f6eec No.21230

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>>21227

oh look a k98k with a little metal "spike" below the barrel.


b1d2fe No.21232

>>21230

Well I guess you're right. Guess it's kind of pointless trying to identify the gun.


5d49ed No.21243

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>>21227

>>21230

>>21232

Yeah, the Kar 98k originally came with a cleaning rod (that "metal spike" you're referring to), but in order to keep up with wartime production demands, in 1944 they began to produce the Kriegsmodell, which simplified the model by removing pieces like the cleaning rod and bayonet lug.

Long story short, you can't say it's not a Kar 98 just because of the presence of a cleaning rod. Pic related.


5aaaa0 No.21300

>>21201

A problem I have with this image is that it tries to compare SS combat uniforms to that of a death squad.




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dacd77 No.21141[Reply]

Name a real-life pre-1500 empire that can conquer all of Westeros.

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6da15e No.21228

>>21200

Pre-1500's is just before gunpowder became a major arm.


bb834f No.21237

I would honestly wager a smaller but newer nation, like the tuetons, for taking control. Seige tactics are nearly everything.


b29d74 No.21242

Seconding Ottomans and also the Mongols.


bb834f No.21247

>>21237

and by Tuetons I mean Teutonic order.


bb9b76 No.21251

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>>21228

BOOM

BOOM

CRASH

That's all it takes for a 20 ton bombard to smash your medieval walls and steal your empire. Why don't you own a trace italienne fortress?




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81fc07 No.21239[Reply]

Is our entire psych balanced around eating smaller fish, evading bigger fish, and procreating? Does this channel itself into nations which move violently across the land and attack nations for sheer resources and land?

9e4d49 No.21240

>>21239

>Is our entire psych balanced around eating smaller fish, evading bigger fish, and procreating?

Well that's the fucking question isn't it?

I think so. Most humans are also able to genuinely care about their community and neighbors on some level or another. As individuals we can survive through violence and manipulation or through diplomacy and empathic communication, and I think our societies are the same way.




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98a47a No.20995[Reply]

Hi /his/. Which is the best way to teach high middle ages thematically to high school students?

I'm looking to link their day to day lives and the general world that surrounds them when giving lessons, but I want to do that thematically (lessons separated by topics like economy, education, health, violence, etc). My main problem right now is finding suitable material to work with them (their parents tend to get buttmad if their notebooks are empty).

238333 No.21035

when in doubt, teach them about war and intrigue


6edf8c No.21042

>>20995

I'm no teacher, but maybe you could give it the Game of Thrones treatment. Instead of broad topics star with a single individual of importance, and move through his life as it connects with other people of interest.


9b1587 No.21045

>>21042

This would be cool if you could make it work. Maybe design the curriculum around a particular dynasty that had interactions with many historical figures and events.

>>21035

This too


a0d627 No.21104

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Why not make this a thread about teaching history in general?

I assume many of us want to share what we know. Why? How do you imagine you would go about it, day-to-day?

>>21035

With sex thrown in, this would be the obvious strategy - if you were trying to make history interesting to any general audience, that is. That probably wouldn't go over well in a school

The thing is, while it seems obvious, I doubt too many high schoolers would care much for thousand year old political intrigue, or even for the aspects of war beyond the nitty-gritty details.

>>21042

>star with a single individual of importance, and move through his life as it connects with other people of interest.

I always liked this, and can't put my finger on why.


98a47a No.21225

Speaking of resources and material, I'm looking for images depicting the daily life of peasants during the High Middle Ages. Anyone know where I could find it?




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4defd1 No.20864[Reply]

Have you ever taken a side when discussing history with other people? Or are you just neutral?

>inb4 hitler did nothing wrong

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1a3661 No.21014

I've met a few retards who paint any group of people they don't like as a hivemind driven by evil motives. There was one guy in particular, talking to him you would think that China's only purpose for existing, since its inception, was to prepare for and eventually declare war on the United States. I tried to point out that economic ties between the two countries and nuclear deterrence will probably overcome anything that would pull them towards war. Maybe a major diplomatic incident would do it, like some slapstick Adam Sandler movie where ISIS spikes Barack's coffee with laxatives, and all during trade negotiations with China Barack has to hold in his massive dump, like, sweating and gritting his teeth because he just has to shit that bad, and he almost makes it to the end without shitting himself, but when he gets up to run to the restroom he accidentally trips and falls, exploding diarrhea all over President Xi Jinping's wife and daughter who just happened to be standing there, and everybody just screams in abject horror the entire time.

But no, according to him, China will start a conventional war with the US, somehow neither side will ever use nukes, even as a last ditch measure, the US will win, communism falls off a cliff while screaming "NOOOOOOOO" and explodes in a fireball, US marine hero guy gets the girl, background changes to an American flag, you get an achievement for finishing the game (only a 4 hour campaign, 4.5 hours with DLC), roll credits.


869eb6 No.21019

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>>21014

You should write more things, anon.


a84b9f No.21156

>>21014

is this pasta? what a great fucking post


000000 No.21160

>>21014

5 star post nigga


814077 No.21175

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>>21014

Quality post




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