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bfcc9e No.16751[Reply]

ITT: We post memes from throughout history. Pic related, it's grafiti thought to be the first political cartoon ever, by the Roman Peregrinus.
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908203 No.18656

>>18465

Because then you'd get

ANONIMUS IV/XIX/MMXV X:III:VII ID:IID4EV? NO.XVDCLXV

0s don't exist in roman numerals.


39a23f No.18676

>>18656

Anonimus IV/XX/MMXV ID:XIXXIXUD NO.MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

GLADIATOR WADE DAVIS GET


6e1655 No.18678

>>18676

>MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>Not MCXI

Q V A D R V P L V S

IV XX BLAZE IT EVNVCH!


f4752c No.18694

>>18676

YVO BVGGER MEN


8c3031 No.21133

>>18416

Look at the helmets.




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6ce0e9 No.21111[Reply]

Dunno whether I would get better results for this question here or in philosophy, since this certainly will touch the works of some philosophers and other thinkers of the enlightenment period.

My doubt is:

1- when, where and how exactly did the idea of ownership of ideas arose?

2- when, where and how exaclty did the legal concept of patents arose?

3- When, where and how exactly did the concept of innovation, as we hear from economists and business schools today, arose?

For the last question, I have the impression this was mostly an answer from liberalism/libertarianism to the emergence of of marxism. Earlier concepts of liberalism back in the times of Locke, Adam Smith and Hume didn't seem to take into consideration the necessity or existence of an individual freedom for the sake of creating your own innovative businesses. The wealth of nations isn't famous for talking about how innovation is important for a capitalist economy.

e460c1 No.21119

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.

Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.




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b40a0a No.20808[Reply]

>>>/monarchy/

I figure those with an interest in history would like discussing monarchy as well. Get in here /his/

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31efe0 No.21080

>>21074

Indonesia is shit. Java is overcrowded, outside of java rainforest ruined by logging & palm plantation. There are some pristine places here and there if you could forgive the lack of infrastucture.

t. indonesian


09a48e No.21081

>>21072

Is there a big difference between the peninsulars and borneo islanders?

>>21080

I saw The Act of Killing some days ago, what's your take on the whole thing?


5554d1 No.21101

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>>21081

It's okay. Maybe it's too long and felt a bit directionless but it show how the event impacted the executioner.


d2c9a9 No.21107

>>21081

>Is there a big difference between the peninsulars and borneo islanders?

Peninsular: Tonnes of monarchs

Borneo: No monarch (except for crazy Brunei)


d2c9a9 No.21108

>>21074

>with some great natural beauty

I always see blue birds when traveling to the cities. Those are everywhere. But monkeys, man. Those bloody creatures will turn your house upside down if you don't close the windows when you leave the house. Make sure you call the authority if you spot any crocodiles, those things doesn't play around. Get used to leeches and mosquitoes.

There's quite a lot of variety of bugs and beetles, if you're into that.

>What's your experience like living there?

I'm assuming you meant living in the rural areas.

Eh, it's kind of alright. Good luck finding people who can speak English though. Sometimes we just eat stuffs we foraged from the jungle.

>What did you do to pass the time.

Reading at the library (yes we have that. Hell, we have Asterix) and fishing for crabs. Some of my childhood friends regularly kill snakes for giggles but I has always been afraid of those buggers.

And, if you're white and British and not fat, you will get instant respect.




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da859c No.20960[Reply]

What nation and period had the most valiant duels?

pictured

>Flos Duellatorum

>holmgang

>the early wild west

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dde7bf No.20987

Do you think dueling will ever make a comeback?


000000 No.21018

>>20987

After the B Ball Wars there'll be zaubers in the streets


da859c No.21034

>>20987

I think it's been long replaced by sports.

>>20964

Conventional duels or pankration?


8e9cef No.21038

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>21034

>I think it's been long replaced by sports.

>>20987

I expect it to.


9b9e5e No.21040

>>21034

Warfare as the duels of army champions.




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af9a2d No.18238[Reply]

In which moment you can say that the Middle Ages ended?
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4a3b69 No.18878

>>18238

>implying middle ages did not start in the late antiquity and end before the XI century


991b28 No.20997

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Nothing ever ends


000000 No.21011

What's a "middle age"? We're in the Holocene Era


51196c No.21026

>>18696

/thread

With Westphalia, we can say that the Christian (Roman) Empire dream/ambition ended. Also, it's a symbolical date that marks a period of decline of Mediterranean trade preeminence on the Atlantic one.


64f457 No.21033

>>21026

Its kind of hard to take anyone seriously who thinks that the 17th century is "medieval". The dividing lines between medieval and early modern are centralized states and money economies. Luther is post-medieval as far as I'm concerned, but I can entertain that opinion. Westphalia is comical as a suggestion.




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7da038 No.21030[Reply]

Did these fucking retards do anything right? They even pissed the Jews off enough that they created Hanukkah.



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733ec4 No.21008[Reply]

Hey /his/, come check out >>>/freedu/ for free educational resources. Post pdfs, links etc. to any free material and resources, and make requests as you like.

Much appreciated!

7a35a7 No.21012

Why not just use /edu/? It gets a little bit more traffic and promoting it would help


a260b3 No.21024

>>21008

Why go to school when you can have a beautiful MAS-36?




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7559e5 No.18686[Reply]

Kennedy thread.

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2c6ed2 No.20937

So did Kennedy kill Monroe?


05d8da No.20980

>>20850

I think Kennedy did okay for the short time he was here. It's so hard to really grasp what he could have done, but his management of the Missile Crisis was pretty decent.

Nixon wasn't actually a horrible president. He was just a paranoid weirdo who undermined all of his foreign policy successes by being a liar. War on Cancer was a cool project but can't really be seen as responsible for much advancement in oncology. Also set up the HMO system which everyone 100 percent loved and never had qualms with.


05d8da No.20982

>>20804

This is true as well. He was in pain almost all the time and at the time of his assassination it was believed he couldn't duck down after getting shot through the throat because of his brace.




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8715e0 No.19397[Reply]

ITT: Favorite historical quotes

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d57e73 No.20963

>>20933

Because it isn't "false". Even if what you are reading is pure, partisan propaganda, it tells you about that faction and their views.


742440 No.20968

>>20963

Yeah, of course pure, partisan propaganda can give you good information, e.g. the views of the faction or group, but those views are often presented as fact, and if what you're reading is black or grey propaganda then you'll have no way to tell whether what you're reading is actually true, or if it just represents the views of the political group or faction that wrote it.


d57e73 No.20972

>>20968

You can tell if it is true by reading other sources and reaching an informed decision. That's what being a historian, even an amateur one, means.


8ddd0d No.20979

>>20933

That's the beautiful thing about history (and humanities in general): there is no such thing as a false account. What someone lies about tells a lot about the writer or their audience. In fact, lies can tell you just as much about history as an honest account in some cases.

Take a random example: Herodotus' account of the Persian invasion. Did the Persians really have a million men in their army? Did the gods really intervene to save Greece? Of course not, but the fact that he would exaggerate (or use hyperbole. whatever the case may be) demonstrates the importance that the Greek victory against Persia has. A more accurate account of the battle might not give a good insight into the transformation of the Greek psyche following the victory. A completely faithful account of the battle would probably tell you the events leading up to the battle, the context, the battle itself, and its impact, if it is even that comprehensive. Herodotus' account shows us how important the battle is in the minds of Greeks, gives some insight on Greek religion, what they value, and other things (since this is an account of a repelled invasion, it shows us how the Greeks viewed themselves by comparing themselves to the oppressive Persians, etc.). So in a way, an account with some bullshit in it gives us a more holistic view of the society, rather than just an account of one event in history.

Probably not the best example, but hopefully it supports my point that the scientific accuracy of a source doesn't entirely determine what you can learn from it. Pretty much if you can read it and approximately date it, you can surely get SOMETHING from it.


8ddd0d No.20981

>>20979

Aso as >>20941 points out, you fact check all your sources with other sources to filter out the bullshit.

>>20968

And that's where your brain comes in. There's only really a problem where the partisan source is the ONLY available source on an issue. And even still, provided it's not the only source from the period entirely, comparative checking helps a lot. If you can determine common themes of bias from other accounts of your source, you can make some good guesses at the truth.




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bc2832 No.20959[Reply]

Do you guys know of any good books on early American history and the American Civil War?

Also, general American history thread I guess.

790399 No.20978

>>20959

I'd imagine the Oxford History of the United States series is pretty good. I believe The Glorious Cause (American Revolution) and Battle Cry of Freedom (Civil War) are regarded as classics.

Personally I really want some good books on Manifest Destiny, the exploration and development of the country west of the Mississippi and post-Civil War/pre-World War I America.




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683f8f No.20908[Reply]

Let's play a game, /his/.

Pick the side you would choose for a variety of civil wars. I'll start with the civil wars from Plantagenet-era England.

The Anarchy: Matilda/Henry FitzEmpress

The Great Revolt (1173-1174): Rebels/Henry the Young King

Conflict in Aquitaine (Aquitainian nobles trying to oust Duke Richard and place the Young King as the heir to all Plantagenet realms): Henry the Young King

First Barons' War: loyalists (William Marshal rekt baguettes)

Second Barons' War: loyalists (Prince Edward based as fuck)

Despenser War (rebellion against Edward II): rebels

Hundred-Years War: Burgundians/English

I think there's a few I'm forgetting but that's the general gist of it.

98dcba No.20950

the 100 years war wasnt a civil war


c49380 No.20961

>>20950

It was a succession war where one of the claimants was, in the view of the other, his subject.


5fbcee No.20966

How much power do we have


98dcba No.20977




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13156b No.16497[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

GET IN HERE FAGGOTS

Ancestry rating thread.

How does your ancestry hold up to the rest?

Tartar and Hungarian, what is the ancestry of the /his/torian?
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82eb80 No.20874

>>20866

Did you post this on /pol/ before? Your Irish grandma sounds like a qt when she was young.


510261 No.20901

>>20874

She was a model in NYC


f479b8 No.20918

Firstly I'm just generic mixed white, so I don't need to know about my ancestry. My ancestry is just called "Western History"

Secondly, I think it's dumb to be proud of anything you had no control over, like your ethnicity, your nationality, physical traits, etc. You should be proud of things you've personally accomplished, not things which were just handed to you randomly at birth


c70524 No.20921

>>20918

I agree completely, but I am very curious about where my family has lived throughout history and where my genes come from. It's more of an extension of my interest in history and anthropology than any nationalist thing.


1857c1 No.20998

>>20918

>>20921

Glad to see people with commen sense.

i love /his/




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8c90dc No.20847[Reply]

Has any individual man influenced history more than this man?

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0247e7 No.20856

The first man in history is more influential than him


467d64 No.20868

I don't think that's the best way to determine the most influential person in history. Much of what is monotheism today was developed by generations of Middle Eastern theologians, and Abraham just happens to be the legendary patriarch of the Jews whom Christians and Muslims retroactively declared their own ancestor as well.

You could take this to a reductive extreme and just declare the man who invented fire, speech, or agriculture the most influential in history. The older you are, the more likely you'd become a narrative character of some tradition or legend, but that's not the same thing as being influential in the past.

It's best I think to limit just what counts as influence to the person's lifetime and immediate successors, say one or two generations removed. After that it's dubious whether history is being influenced by that individual whenever he's remembered or referenced. He may have become a narrative device in the meanwhile to suit someone else's needs. The great prophets like Jesus, Muhammad, or Buddha are just one example.


204a41 No.20887

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>>20847

Man do you realize humanity would have gone extinct in 2348 BC without this single pious man, pic related? No Abraham, no David, no Jesus… I'm sure he's the most important man in history.

In case heathens claim he didn't exist (I hope you like weeping and gnashing of teeth by the way), I propose Stanislav Petrov, who single-handedly averted a nuclear war.


fc2502 No.20889

>>20887

All hail our Great Lord Moses


329c62 No.20920

I'd say Jesus and Muhammad are the two historical figures that had the widest impact.

Which is unfortunate because I want to pick Alexander the Great or Augustus, but in the end they're overshadowed by the filthy monotheists in modern times.




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ed7743 No.14577[Reply]

Where did it all go wrong /his/?
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2ec8a0 No.20570

>>15831

AND HIS FACE WAS FUCKED LIKE A TRUE GENTLEMAN

–Rule Britannia plays-


c2ba60 No.20575

French Revolution


2e4a7a No.20703

>>14591

The only truly /his/ answer. Right and wrong are for ethicists. Who, what, where, when, and how are for historians.


c36db1 No.20733

>>14577

Why were Bashkortostan, Tatarstan and other Soviet ASSRs seen as quasi independent (borders inside Russia) in 1993? What is the story about it and why did they turn back into Russia?


ff291a No.20860

>>15587

Byzantium had recovered quite a lot of land from the Turks when they were sacked by the Crusaders, including the area where the Ottomans would later be founded.

If it wasn't for the Fourth Crusade there is no doubt in my mind that a Byzantine State would exist in the place of Turkey today.




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736c41 No.18296[Reply]

Hi, I'm interested in reading more about the early Indo-Europeans. Unfortunately the topic seems to still be one of contention among scholars with competing theories. Not to mention how the issue can be fraught with "muh Aryan master race" bullshit. Can /his/ recommend some fair texts for laymen?
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491ccf No.18876

>>18296

Do you have any book about proto indo european religion? Or some comparative studies of different indo european religions?


000000 No.18918

>>18876

Most of the books up the top cover that.


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000000 No.20858

Alright niggas I've uploaded an Ugaritic Language Learning Pack, next Hittite.


000000 No.20859




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