/his/ - History

>>20805

>a bridge too far

my nigga

I love the tryhard acting and the excessive amount of explosives.

>>20816

platoon used ot be my favorite movie but it sins a few times, particularly near the end where sheen and his comrade pick up their rifles and go fully hollywood

I need to watch the bridge on kwai river sometime.

>>20826

lmao, the explosions are Michael Bay-esque

also the fact that everyone is British and I am a patriotic bastard

>>20826

you will fucking love Bridge the the River Kwai

>>18857

I heard that Gettysburg isn't 100% historically accurate, but it's still an excellent war film.

Unfortunately most "war" films are ruined by kike directors and their faux-pacifict leanings.

there are like 800 amazing black and white films, especially regarding the air force battles.

>“They haven’t been damaged and members of the organisation told residents that they will not damage the city’s antiquities, but will destroy the idols,” an activist with the anti-regime Local Coordination Committee for Tadmur, the modern name for Palmyra, said. “Perhaps it’s because the Palmyra antiquities are mostly columns and large buildings and not statues of people, which they consider idols that must be destroyed, and they have no problem with the other antiquities.”

>Alwan FM, an anti-regime Syrian radio station, published an audio interview purporting to be with Abu Laith al-Saoudy, the nom de guerre of the Isis military commander in Palmyra, who pledged not to damage the site but said the group would destroy statues.

>“Concerning the historic city, we will preserve it and it will not be harmed, God willing,” he said. “What we will do is break the idols that the infidels used to worship.

>“The historic buildings will not be touched and we will not bring bulldozers to destroy them like some people think,” he added.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/27/isis-releases-footage-of-palmyra-ruins-intact

This is a better outcome than expected, right? I mean they say they'll still smash "idols" but most statues and shit were evacuated before they took the city so I don't think there's anything there for them to destroy… unless they go back on their word and just level the whole city (which wouldn't be at all surprising).

>>20622

>being this pedantic

I obviously don't mean every American.

I can't even describe how furious I am at this moment.

Torture, murder, and repress as many people as you want, but as soon as people start destroying priceless ancient arifacta I get really, really pissed.

I hate to be be mildly racist, but why do we even allow these places to keep their ancient artifacts and ruins? If we were smart, they would all be shipped off to neutral first-world countries that haven't had any wars on their home soil in centuries, where they would be protected and cared for. Like Switzerland, Sweden, USA, Canada, etc

In the end, it's theirs to protect or destroy, not yours to steal. Should such a policy be acceptable then the moment a nation falls into poverty and turmoil another 'well-meaning' nation would be justified in swooping in and airlifting some national heritage for themselves.

>>20755

If it's a voluntary thing, I wouldn't be opposed to it. Shipping off the original smaller artifacts to larger and more stable nations, then manufacturing detailed replicas. Do scans, chemical analysis and from those make digital replicas as well, in case the original ever gets destroyed.

The UN could actually do something useful, too, and protect what ancient sites can't be moved. That would be nice; in nasty areas, establish a small perimeter around important sites and arm the defenders to the teeth.

>>20747

>being this pedantic

Yeah, I'm a little sorry. I'll admit, I snapped. I'm just running out of patience for those kind of generalizations. I'm seeing more and more of them; granted, this isn't exactly a new habit that humans have suddenly acquired. But it certainly has picked up the pace around campus! I've come to realize that I like everything about college except the culture, holy hell.

>>20404

>Protecting these sites would be a good excuse for troops on the ground in Syria for the US. If only US and Syria could work together to stop this

I don't see most people besides historians considering "ancient artefacts and ruins" of greater value than human lives, when we're talking popular opinion.

Not to mention when you put boots on the ground that leads to a high chance of this shit getting blown up by our own side as well. If they dug in anywhere near Palmyra American doctrine seems to be "bomb the shit out of it and clean up what's left."

The Internationale forces of the proletariat rise in Western Russia!

How do you play.

I think a game like Diplomacy would be more suited towards this board's userbase and it's traffic.

>>20371

Yeah, I've never played it, and I'd be willing to.

We're doing an online thing, right? Kind of like one of those chess websites where you can take a turn and then wait for someone else to (that is, it could be days apart)

>>20635

There's AtWar.

I like soldiers with ski masks/balaclaves and O.K. gear.

>>14214

well that is the reason for most of USAs involvement in the Middle East, involvement in Lybia and Syria was because they were supplying Russia with oil, not because they were undemocratic

>>14343

How come, why was Italy so poor?

>>7959

it's quite a bit overplayed, it's known that the truce happened some places along the front line but there are many more cases of soldiers believing there's a truce, walking into No Mans Land and getting shot. I remember reading of a soldier who carried food and other goods to a German trench, they exchanged goods and as he was walking back they shot him.

>Massacres of Christian Aborigines

Aborigines were practising guerrilla warfare against the British, but were soon converted to Christianity. Taking advantage of this, British soldiers used to attack them on Sundays while they were praying. Not really a underrated battle, but ironic.

>Kronstadt Rebellion

Much too long a story but I will condense it a bit: the Kronstadt Sailors were the back bone of the Bolshevik Revolution, as Kronstadt is a small island off of Petrograd. During the Civil War they were used as shock troopers and were heralded as children of the Revolution, basically the Bolsheviks loved them. In 1921, the Sailors saw the appalling conditions which workers were living in, also the use of the Secret Police by the Bolsheviks, and decided to declare independence and label Kronstadt as an actual Soviet State. Thousands from Petrograd flocked to Kronstadt. The Red Army launched attacks on the Fortified Island by WALKING ON THE FROZEN ICE (I fucking love this). The first attack was repelled, the second one wasn't. If reports are true, for every sailor that was killed, four Red Army soldiers were killed. There is an account of Red Army soldiers finally battling there way into a house, moving aside bodies of dead friends, only to find two Kronstadt Sailors manning a machine gun. As one lay dying from his wounds, he said "pity we couldn't take more of you bastards out". Fucking love that story.

>Kornilov Affair

A general loyal to the Tsar attempts to move back to Petrograd in August to remove the Provisional Government from power. In their panic, they release the Bolsheviks imprisoned during the July Days and allow them to organise the defence of Petrograd. The Bolsheviks arm the workers of Petrograd and successfully repel Kornilovs attack (or Kornilov was not able to get to Petrograd, different sources say different things). This event led directly to the Bolshevik coup and the seizure of power in Russia.

>>20783

I remember one night I couldn't sleep and the history channel had a 16 part series of hour long episodes about the civil war and I stayed up all night watching it because it was actually really well done and helped explain a lot of the fascinating nuance of that war.

And now we have ghost hunters and other retarded shit.

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=CAE9623D549870465B09FE46AA1ED8F2

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=74b5458c431853d41c9b529784a7ad23

>>20709

Genseric is pretty cool and all but Alaric is still the most based barbarian king to ever live.

>>20713

I decided to read up on him and learned about Stilicho. So many promising people got fucked over in Roman history…

>>20718

>I decided to read up on him and learned about Stilicho. So many promising people got fucked over in Roman history…

Please enlighten me about the subject.

>>20709

Vandals behaved much like Romans (with some little differences), but they were arians. If they converted they would have achieved some cohesion and probably avoided the ass rape from Belisarius.>>20709

I always felt close with Emperor Julian "The Apostate".

He converted fro Christianity back to paganism, and attempted to have tolerance for all religions, while building classical paganism and the mystery cults back to their former prestige. He was clearly very smart, and fair and attempted to give the senate and the people more power, and stop the empire from being so authorocratic.

But he was hated by Christians and tragically died shortly into his reign

>>20749

Julian the Apostate was smart, sure, but from listening to History of Rome I wouldn't even remotely put him as anything else you mentioned. He basically seems to have been good at everything until becoming emperor when his "gotta turn back the clock" obsession took precedence over everything else leading to the disasterous invasion of Persia.

If I'd have anything good to say about the less notable emperors from that time period it'd probably be Constantius II who was pretty damn cunning and seemed like a good politician, especially considering all the revellious generals and family members he had constantly deal with on one side and the Sassanids on the other. If he'd been around during a stronger period of the empire he'd probably have been a damn good emperor overall.

>>20752

>>20752

No, don't get me wrong, he probably wasn't a very good ruler. If he was, he would have served a long time and actually gotten shit done.

BUT I almost relate to him more because of that fact. It seems like he had very good intentions and was sincere. But he was a lofty idealist who was pretty naive and not very politically savvy. Which almost make shim seem more human to me.

>>20752

>>20763

history of rome greatly downplays julian.

but it is natural since we know his efforts failed we can easily say "lel it was a foolish attempt"

but if you read modern scholarship about julian you will see that had he survived he could have easly reverted the empire back to paganism, by no means julians attempts were futile

kenneth harls fall of paganism and rise of christiainty lecture touches on this subject, go watched based harl rather than the podcastfaggot who fools oldfat amerrifats into buying his overpirced tours

>>20763

Julian is based

Ductor fortissimus armis,

Conditor et legum celeberrimus; ore manuque

Consultor patriæ; sed non consultor habendus

Religionis; amans tercentum millia divum

Perfidus ille Deo, sed non est perfidus orbi.

Disloyal to god but loyal to the world.

>>20664

>luxury, comfort

>what is frugalitas

>significantly less stabbings

>what is metus hostilis

>My education is superior

>implying you're a vir bonus dicendi peritus

>muh stature

>muh weapons

Mehercle, you're the sickening love child of a Mede eunuch and a Scythian warlord, where is your mos maiorum? What has the world come to?

>>20712

>there is no need for virtus

>res publica is your enemy

>filthy Judean cultists everywhere

Should I become an hero like the Uticensis, or live urgentibus imperii fatis like Agricola? Ubi sunt qui ante nos fuerunt? Where is my hemlock?

>>20697

since when was porn "just porn"

>>20697

>not wanting to fap to ancient greek porn

Knowing them it was probably some great stuff.

>>20697

I always imagined an entire section devoted to glorious slam poetry.

>>20697

But anon, imagine all of shota, bara, & furry material in it

I once heard a statistic that maybe 1% of of ancient literature has survived, and that's a very conservative estimate.

The lost books that really pique my interest are the ones that are either from, or written about, ancient cultures that we now know very little information on. For instance I really wish we had more information on the history, culture, religion, and literature from the Celts, Persians, Etruscans, Greco-Bactrians, and Pre-Muslim Arabs.

And some other works are extremely fascinating simply because of the huge influence they had in ancient times, and yet we know almost nothing about the content. Some examples would be the Sibylline Books and the Epic Cycle.

>>20053

although normally its closer to the high 50s

>>20034

wew

>/sp/ contributes and starts a baseball history thread along with get stealing

wew

>>20574

>/islam/

What, you mean /wahhabi/?

This topic should be for a sociology board, if one exists. But maybe the history behind these kinds of social codes could make for an interesting topic, especially if we compare, contrast, or even link other cultural laws in history. Like with the Ancient Greeks.

>>20576

In that case, I'd like to recommend one such board.

>>/histories/

>>20577

>>>/histories/

Forgive me, I'm new to this whole linking thing.

>>20576

>history behind this topic could make interesting topic

If only OP use better question to star a thread.

>>20565

>>it's restored when women are killed for being

raped

The other way would be to restore honour when the rapist is killed, but that leads to long family feuds.

>>20405

ISIS' goal is to get people pissed at them in the hopes of an alliance of nations going after them so the final battle can be fought in some Syrian city where the anti-prophet will appear ushering the second coming of Jesus and the end times.

They're not just jihadists, they're an apocalyptic cult.

>>20383

I wonder if people in the future will think we're stupid for putting carcinogens in our food for flavor

>>20416

Wait really?

>>20479

Its stupid in any time space.

>>20488

Indeed so, but that doesn't stop people from doing it or eating it.

>>20410

>Queen Victoria

>more than a figurehead

>>20410

You could have choose Alexander II , a monarch that actually did shit.

>>20411

Not to mention the creation of the middle class.

>>20369

Before that you worked 12 hours a day as a farm wageslave.

>>20512

Now its 8 hours wageslave

>>20468

Have a look at the resource thread for any books

Also, when creating a thread, try do propose something rather than just asking for something

>>20468

God damn I hate those boarders.

Why did medieval/early modern europe have such shitty boarders?

>>20484

Because those aren't the borders of a nation state. That is a collection of separate kingdoms and duchies that happened to be ruled by the same person.