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f017f2 No.22115[Reply]

Alright /his/, here's what I think:

All of the countries invaded by the Mongols would've fared better (maybe not won but done better) if they would've resurrected the chariot as a vehicle of war.

You always read about how they were flummoxed by the light archer cavalry; the chariot seems like it would've been an appropriate counter response.

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081e08 No.25571

>>25556

Coming to think of it - would Chariots make a good platform for light siege weapons, i.e. ballistas?

I assume gunpowder weapons would just scare the crap out of the horses, but I could imagine ballistas would work (not as in the sense of a Roman Carroballista which simply was drawn by mules but as a proper chariot with one gunner and one driver).


5b892d No.25587

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>>25571

>I assume gunpowder weapons would just scare the crap out of the horses

I don't think so. As the other guy in this thread who assumed horses wouldn't charge massed infantry, you forget that war horses are professionals, like their riders. Look up "horse artillery".

I don't see why your idea shouldn't work, it would give greater mobility to things like scorpios. I'm pretty sure the chariot would have to stop for the crew to aim and shoot, though.


00bf23 No.25592

>>25488

top kek, made my day


121e4f No.25593

>>25587

These were retarded in the Total War Rome expansion.


5b892d No.25758

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Reading the book this picture >>25587 was taken from (De rebus bellicis, written by anon in the 4th century) I noticed the Romans had the same idea as OP. Here's the relevant passage (pic related, it was an illustrated book):

>Expositio currodrepani

>Huiusmodi pugnacis vehiculi genus, quod armis praeter morem videtur instructum, repperit Parthicae pugnae necessitas.

>Sed hoc singulis bene munitis invecti equis duo viri vestitu et armis <e> ferro diligenter muniti citato cursu in pugnam rapiunt; cuius posterior supra currum pars cultris in ordinem extantibus communitur, videlicet ne facilis a tergo cuiquam praebeatur ascensus.

>Falces vero acutissimae axibus eiusdem currus aptantur, in lateribus suis ansulas habentes, quibus innexi funes pro arbitrio duorum equitum laxati quidem explicant, repressi autem erigunt falces.

>Qualia vero huiusmodi machinae funera hostibus immittant vel quas turbatis ordinibus strages efficiant, dicent melius qui usu bella cognoscunt.

Translation pro simplicibus :^)

>Description of the currodrepanus [= scythed chariot]

>The needs of the war against Parthians* made necessary the creation of this kind of combat vehicle, that may seem armed way too heavily.

>Two men, riding armored steeds and fully equipped with iron armors and weapons drive it into the fray at full speed; its rear is fitted with a row of jutting blades, clearly to make it difficult for anyone to climb on it from behind.

>The chariot's axle is equipped with sharp scythes, perforated on the sides and tied by ropes: pulling or loosening them the riders can raise or spread out the blades.

>Whoever has direct experience of war can explain better than me the destruction wrought by such devices among the enemies and the slaughter inflicted upon the disordered ranks.

*At the time of writing, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.




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c7ee8f No.25322[Reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Worthies

Male:

Three Pagans:

Hector

Alexander the Great

Julius Caesar

Three Jews:

Josue

King David

Judas Maccabeus

Three Christians:

King Arthur

Charlemagne

Godfrey of Bouillon

Renaissance:

Hercules

Pompey the Great

Female:

Three Pagans:

Lucretia

Veturia

Virginia

Three Jews:

Esther

Judith

Jael

Three Christians:

Helena

Bridget of Sweden

Elizabeth of Hungary

Original:

Deiphille

Synoppe

Hippolyte

Menalyppe

Semiramis

Lampetho

Thamarys

Teuta

Penthésilée

Whom would you place on such a list? Personally I think of Ali, Ronald and Joan of Arc and Zawisza the Black, Joan wasn't included for obvious reasons.

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93b57c No.25577

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>>25480

Most likely moralizing anecdotes like how he didn't fuck Darius's sisters overshadowed the darker side of Alexander's character.

Not to mention that "chivalry", I'm guessing, often meant more being "good at war" than it did "whiteknighting".


c7ee8f No.25624

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>>25353

>>25375

>>25402

Three Mohhamedans: Ali, Harun al-Rashid, Saladin :^)?

>>25480

>>25485

I'm surprised they rather didn't put Marcus Aurelius or smt, maybe even Trajan.

Caesar was romanticised a little in mediaeval, you can recall in Dante I think he was either in Limbo or Heaven amongst other "Virtuous Pagans".

>>25350

If you'd put Philip II Augustus it would be all majour Third Crusade players lel.

>>25329

First time hearing of it, thanks!


bb1f92 No.25626

>>25624

>Marcus "Kill all Christians lol" Aurelius

U wot m8


6a0021 No.25654

>>25624

>Philip II Augustus

>backstabbing cunt that doomed the Third Crusade

>worthy of such a title.


93b57c No.25681

>>25626

Marcus "what is a Christian I guess I'll let my governors handle it; oh hey some Christians in my army performed a miracle. Or was it an Ægyptian wizard?" Aurelius




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b5625d No.25407[Reply]

Usually on /k/, there is always this thread with questions that could be answered with a few posts, and don't deserve their own thread.

Feel free to join!

I'll start :

Was the american government aware of the long term effects of radiation poisoning prior to the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagazaki?

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32fa0a No.25595

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>>25590

They throw around some casualty rates in this thread here: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=621413

The consensus seems to be that of the troops who started in 1914 with the BEF, there was a casualty rate of somewhere in the region of 90 to 95%. 40% killed, 55% wounded.

One good solid example they provide in the thread is the London Scottish Regiment. By time the Armistice was signed, only 3 men from the original 1914 regiment was left. iirc, a regiment typically consists of 1000 men.

http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/occupations/military/military-london-scottish.htm

You have to remember that the army in 1914 was a volunteer army and thus much smaller than the conscript army that it became by the end of the war. The chances of the small number of volunteer soldiers in 1914 making it all the way through the 4 years of hell would have been very low as a result because in comparison there weren't that many of them to begin with.

>like what was the likelihood a German soldier would survive the whole of the Battle of Stalingrad?

Not very high, considering how the entire 6th Army was surrounded. The soldiers who didn't die of starvation, disease or combat and ended up surrendering were all packed off to the gulags. Historically, very few German POWs on the Eastern Front ever returned to Germany. Millions of them died in the gulags.

I've got to say, with WW1 I still find it hard to believe it actually happened. The idea that all of Europe just sat down and committed to industrialized mass slaughter for 4 years just boggles the mind. And then to go and do it all over again 20 years later on an even grander scale…


4e7391 No.25598

>>25407

I imagine they didn't know the full effect of radiation poisoning on the scale at which it would occur after the bombings.

I personally think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were two of deadliest scientific experiments ever conducted.


9d5b1f No.25600

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>>25595

I remember reading somewhere (but don't quote me on it) that the life of a WW1 soldier from either side could buy less than 10 centimeters as far as the fronts go.


519b9e No.25629

>>25594

>Also how many soldiers exchanged theaters? Say a soldiers fighting against the japs in their invasion of the Philipines, then sent to say northafrica and later France, did that kind of thing happen?

Okay, I forgot we were talking about WW1 and instead wrote about WW2 but it still might be applicable.

This didn't actually happen, I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) because it generally was a waste of time moving soldiers from Europe to Japan and vice-versa when the US could supply both fronts with troops. There was talk that the soldiers in Europe were to be sent to the Pacific but then the Japanese surrendered.

>>25595

This is brilliant, thank you anon.

Another question I was thinking of, which may be a lot harder to answer, but was the Roman soldier's retirement after twenty years of service actually common? Or was the Roman military's casualty rate high? I think that it could be feasible as the Triarii were the most experienced Roman troops who were often the last to be put into the battle, what do you guys reckon?


f294ed No.25645

>>25629

I don't know about the Roman army mortality rates, but the 20 year service was after the Marian reforms, while the triarii were élite soldiers of the old manipular army. Before Marius, the service lasted much less, since it wasn't a professional army, and in theory it ceased to exist in peacetime. After him, duration varied depending on the period (20 years under Augustus, raised to 25 later).




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da14e2 No.21877[Reply]

Hi guys. At Salisbury cathedral today to see the magna carta on its birthday. Why does everyone seem to think its some form of bill of rights? I feel nobody here really gets what it was - a law limiting the power of the king over the aristocracy. Am I alone in this? Pics very related.

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4898b7 No.25567

>>25530

You're a big Knight.


48ea77 No.25569

>>25567

For thou.


1f0c7f No.25570

We're crashing this monarchy


80e948 No.25613

>>25570

with no scutage!


39eb16 No.25620

>>21877

Isn't it the pact he made with the church so that they would legitimize his claim in exchange for unifying Europe under Catholicism, pretty much saving the people froom the dark ages but going into the slow trainwreck of the Middle Ages?




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497b8a No.25310[Reply]

One of the most worst mass murderers in history.

No one has heard of him outside of Stormfront.

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1d9c0b No.25315

>>25310

>No one has heard of him outside of Stormfront

You would be surprised how 99% of the Western world's people don't know anything about history.


c8036b No.25319

>>25310

>ukraine rebels

>the state starves them into submission

>the guy responsible gets demoted and punished

Nah, I'd still go with the six million jews on that one.


1d7abc No.25326

>>25310

>muh holodohoax


89a7fa No.25585

To be fair, the NKVD leaders were scumbags, the three of them didn't survive the purges and very few high-ups did. Even the spies in the NKVD were getting fucked over, with other spies arresting them and executing them. So, who really gives a shit that 8 million Ukrainians died when millions more ethnic Russians were killed.


b6f29c No.25611

>>25310

The chosen ones didn't die so it's not important.




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9dfe4d No.25558[Reply]

What exactly was HRE, what kind of power did he had?

>inb4 le ebin Voltaire

4a8c2c No.25559

>What exactly was the HRE, what kind of power did he had?

Ignoring your grammar errors, the Holy Roman Emperor was a false title first used only to offend the Byzantines, which failed.

Though he did have power to "influence" other states in the "Empire" but it was essentially the same power the last Han Emperor had during the warring three states of china had.


bcad86 No.25576

Lotta loyalty for a landsknecht!


4e22ca No.25581

At first it was just your everyday Middle Ages king. After Eastern Francia fell into neverending civil wars the title was recycled, from there on he was supposed to be an electable leader among the princeps of assorted feudal landships, a kind of primus inter pares elected among the nobles themselves to mediate and intercede in the case of conflict. Strong enough to hold the country together, pliable so the Head of State could change peacefully whenever the times demanded it.

A handful of these kings were really powerful guys who could allow themselves disregard the Pope's opinions; most of them were proven virtually powerless against the french expansionism, the spanish interventionism in Italy, the meddling of the nordic countries with the baltic princes and the popping up of assorted peasant revolts and religious heresies until it all blew up in the Thirty Years' War.

After 1648 it was just a nominal title held by the Habsburgs, who just devoted themselves to their joint adventure with Hungary and fending off the turks.




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2bf214 No.24971[Reply]

ITT we post our best Weapons, and explain their uses and why they are the best (I know there's kinda a thread for it already but it's fucked up beyond recognition so I'm starting a new one).

The Glaive is very Powerful due to it's power of reach, and so lightweight to the Point you mostly guide it around with one hand and only use the other for extra support when delivering a blow, It could Perform nearly all the duties a Halberd could do, and it could be used as a spear much more easily than the spear tip of a Halberd.

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70f573 No.25441

>>25437

That's a Ngombe (nigs in Congo) executioner's sword. It was unfit for battle, obviously.


9c7eac No.25444

>>25441

why do all the cool looking swords are useless irl


2bf214 No.25447


761479 No.25481

>>25447

It's quite apparent that he just have bad taste in weapon.


2bf214 No.25551

>>25481

not necessarily




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f49662 No.24996[Reply]

This video is a tribute to the courageous defenders of Vienna under command of Ernst Rüdiger von Stahremberg, to soldiers of Austria, Bavaria, Saxonia, Franconia and Swabia, to spirited Italian lancers, and last but not least, to the Polish Army under command of Jan III Sobieski, thanks to whom not only are we privileged to be free and to worship God in our homes, but also in the public life.

My special acknowledgement to all other heroes of that time who made their contribution, though unknown to history yet well known to God, to saving Europe from the nightmare of Islam.

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7f375a No.25191

>>25175

If we're talking about the second siege, then in Constantinople there was in fact a very religious atmosphere around the campaign. This had to do with the influence of an East Anatolian/Syrian religious movement that began clashing with the Sufi orders of the city and influenced the sultan.

But before that Ottoman campaigning was more imperial than religious, with something like a third of the Sipahi cavalry until the mid 17th century still being Christian.


df2a40 No.25201

>>25175

>>25177

Thanks for the Caliph thing guys.


43a0f0 No.25537

Its funny that poltards always criticize libruls and other opponents as beign all about "muh feels", when in reallity they are as emotional as them, sometimes even worse.

>My special acknowledgement to all other heroes of that time who made their contribution, though unknown to history yet well known to God, to saving Europe from the nightmare of Islam.

Really dude? thats cringeworthy as fuck, I bet you also believe that Charles Martell "saved europe" from islam.


e533f0 No.25540

>>25189

not him but seems like you're out of argument


e533f0 No.25541

>>25126

You can watch to movie and jerk it off I don't care but don't expect us to take you serious when you come up with romantic ideas




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95b821 No.25419[Reply]

What if early man had domesticated bears instead of wolves?

Would we have breeds of little living teddy bears running around?

Would bear cavalry actually be a thing? Bears if I recall correctly can run about as fast as horses.

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97840a No.25489

>>25487

Sweating is not the only thing that makes us natural runners, though. Our lower limbs are comparatively big and strong, we have adapted joints and tendons, etc. etc.


85d894 No.25496

there is a tradition amongst turks, they train the bears for dancing,but nowadays people wear bear costume and dance

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/130249.stm


971f05 No.25518

>>25496

Considering how hairy many Turks (especially from the rural regions) area, the costumes may be entirely unnecessary.


85d894 No.25520

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>>25518

>wanting to see turkish men dancing without costume


65b6ea No.25532

>>25496

there's also a group of gypsies, ursari, that did the same




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ade706 No.25295[Reply]

Could the middle east have been more peaceful if the Traditional Caliph still existed?

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64a248 No.25374

>>25306

Islam is part of the reason why the middle east is a shithole,but it was also the seat of multiple turkic invasions which led to the sack of baghdad,the spread of the bubonic plague,and the obsoletion of the silk road. And even if islam never existed and it was divided into neat little zones like

>>25325

the west would still try to break it up or place oil puppets to ensure profit.

Now,Ottoman rule lasted for 600 years and the french and british partitioned the middle east along the ottoman administrative lines,and when ww1 broke out the british funded wahhabis to weaken the turks,and then the wahhabis gained control of saudi arabia,and started to indoctrinate muslims worldwide with help from oil money and the house of saud. Now,in the 1950s,the middle east was salvageable,but western intervention,the cold war,and the establishment of israel fucked it to the point where there is no end in sight to the death-circlejerk that is the modern middle east.


ade706 No.25458


ade706 No.25459

>>25324

>>25324

>What is the Traditional Caliph anyway?

OP here.

When I meant Caliph, I was talking about central power, kinda like Vatican that could declare someone is infidel or not.

If that kind of power existed in Islamic world, it could have stopped brutal terrorism and simply declare them as "HERESY!"


7ffa3e No.25462

>>25458

Just something from a drawfag on TotalWarCenter for the Broken Crescent mod. Frankly I'm surprised how it's gotten around over the years. There's probably a niche there for qt animu grills in somewhat realistic medieval armor.

>>25459

That sort of authority in the hands of the Caliph was gone by the mid 8th century as a Zoroastrian/Judaic influenced ulema class started calling the shots on religious matters.

To be fair, the kind of violent Salafism we know now was generally put down, belittled, and denounced by the general Islamic world. It just so happened that 1950s America was looking for an oil-rich friend and found Saudi Arabia.


b85b93 No.25493

>>25374

>Now,Ottoman rule lasted for 600 years and the french and british partitioned the middle east along the ottoman administrative lines,and when ww1 broke out the british funded wahhabis to weaken the turks,and then the wahhabis gained control of saudi arabia,and started to indoctrinate muslims worldwide with help from oil money and the house of saud. Now,in the 1950s,the middle east was salvageable,but western intervention,the cold war,and the establishment of israel fucked it to the point where there is no end in sight to the death-circlejerk that is the modern middle east.

This guy speaks the truth

>>25370

many syrians have assyrian descedants afaik, since caliph umar forbid to sack and enslave Iraq and Syria, and his soldiers were about to revolt.

I've read it somewhere if I find a sauce I'll put that down




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80f523 No.17279[Reply]

>you will never campaign across Europe, fucking camp followers and killing catholics as you go
fml
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82f33b No.25331

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>You will never be given more troops by St. Justinian the Great to liberate Romans under the barbarian occupation

>You will never avoid fffects of the plague


1ac0bd No.25336

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>>25331

>you will never be replaced by an eunuch

>you will never be blinded and reduced to mendicancy

Eh, not bad actually.


096e10 No.25341

>>25254

You do know that "Qin Shi Huangdi" is a title, not a name, right? Qin is the name of his state; when he conquered the other warring states, everything became Qin.


9502d5 No.25351

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>you will never sail across the Indian ocean and hand both Hindus and Muslims their ass

>you will never conquer Malacca and take full control of the Indian trade

>you will never be remembered as the Caesar of the East

>you wont even be part of his loyal army


86c785 No.25354

I rather enjoy modern comforts.

>You will never impress your favorite historical heroes with the wonders of modern science, philosophy, and art

So long as you didn't get burned for witchcraft, it'd be so much fun to fuck with the timestream.




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688ca3 No.24934[Reply]

So /his/, what exactly do you think happened in the meeting between Attilla the Hun and Pope Leo? What caused the "Scourge of God" to turn his back on a Roman Empire ripe for the plunder?

Or was the meeting just made up by later historians?

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995ec8 No.25192

>>25183

It just a similar sounding word. Bosnians didn't move to the US and found the city of Boston.


4b8e3c No.25199

>>25162

Yeah I knew that after Attila's death the subject peoples pretty much rose up to slap the Hun's shit, I was just trying to tell the other dude that "if Hun's invade Germany => Teutoburg Forest 2: Electric Boogaloo".

Thanks for the link though mang


624bd0 No.25258

>>25082

Um, that's exactly -why- everyone would want to take credit for converting this man to Christianity.


a9a2e7 No.25260

>>25127

suebi-fag gtfo


61d0c6 No.25335

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>>25183

atil is turkish name for volga river. atilla means from volga river.

>>25199

it'd have different consequences, since huns are nomadic and romans are settled. which means they can easily retreat down to the hungarian plains which favor horsemen type of army.I mean it's very hard to rekt cavalry core army in the forest with mainly heavy infantry.

Also huns and other turkish nomads had flawed heirship system, usually the khans's sons split the empire or they fight each other(to obey the strongest one, this actually better than splitting in a long term imo)

Hunnic military was good but the civic advances were bad. And I also think Attila was good strategist, he also had decisive victories against eastern roman empire.

also

>tfw no nomadic empire to rule weaklings




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27da98 No.24623[Reply]

Is it possible that that Atlantis was a Greek colony of Tartessos?

How genuine is the tale of king Arthur?

How genuine is the tale that Romans are descendants from the Trojans?

Were the Proto-Europeans spread all across Europe before the Indo-Aryan invasion or were they just located in the Balkans, Scandinavia and for some reason Sardinia, like today?

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f355bf No.25298

>>25297

*Also the memory of minoic Crete was transported orally for 700 years, so something must have changed.


84b9bf No.25299

>>25239

>>25282

this

aryan usually refers only to the branch of indoeuropeans going southeast

historically it's also ocassionally been used for all indo-europeans. but you could also come here using the term japhethite because that was the earliest term for indo-europeans, based on biblical sons of noah: shem (semites), ham (hamites — which includes berbers, egyptians and kushites) and japheth (japhethites); but the term is out of use and hamites are not a single group, so the only ones left are semites.


84b9bf No.25300

>>25252

what about thēra itself? it's a volcano, so it's actually circular (or was before the caldera formed) and pillars of hercules could have possibly meant different things in different time period (the peloponese/crete/rhodos island arc?)


27da98 No.25308

>>25277

Well, true.

>>25297

>>25300

It could be, but Atlantis was said to be powerful. But no nation is powerful if they pay protection money to Egypt. The only Greek colony that was wiped of by a massive flood was in South of Spain, beyond the pillars of Hercules. I was thinking it could be Crete but the evidence is more at the side of Tartessos.


27da98 No.25309

>>25300

Lel, how can Atlantis be real is our eyes aren't?




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f41a9e No.19052[Reply]

>tfw your glorious bastion of civilization was destroyed by savages

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410dfe No.25226

>>25219

>Solipsist

>Lethal Weapon 2

P-please excuse my ignorance anons, but would you care to inform us lesser-informed anons in the board what them fancy werds mean?


410dfe No.25227

>>25220

Np man


37ae86 No.25274

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>>25226

>Lethal Weapon 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY

for context, the white guy is South African

to be honest, it's an awesome movie if you ignore the obvious propaganda aspect.

It's also the reason I will never have any sympathy for Mel Gibson and his Jew problems.

>solipsism

dictionary definition: the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist; the quality of being self-centred or selfish.

In fact it's a step beyond being selfish. The selfish person is aware that other people have their own perspective/desires, they simply don't care. The solipsist is unaware that perspectives other than their own even exist.

And in case you think that's too extreme a description for Americans, read the pic


410dfe No.25287

>>25274

Im a independist puertorican. I very much relate


ee0b4d No.25307

>>25203

>Sure it was silly of them, but what prevented the newly independent African nations from going "Hey these borders don't make sense, hey neighbor do you think we should redraw them ourselves?"

Because it was also convienent for the negroes. Seriously they had much more power to be able to fuck over other tribes now because of the drawn borders which is what you see with Zimbabwe.

Ol Mugabe was able to fuck over all his enemies because he was able to take over Rhodesia and become the dominant tribe which let him oppress everyone else with the support of Eurocucks.




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24fbcc No.25198[Reply]

Did monarchies stifle technological advancement?

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d4f0d3 No.25236

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aedc74 No.25249

If the goverment becomes stiff and overly bureaucratic it will, but this can affect any goverment.

Just look at China under the Qing:

China was always ruled in a monarchist kind of way, be it as one Empire or many petty kingdoms. Until the end of Ming and even into the early Qing the chinese were quite innovative (Muh Song dynasty).

The Qing then did a good job of keeping the Empire as one and scurrying of any outsiders: Nobody wanted to mess with the big blob, every state in the area was just WAY under their powerlevel. So China was united, safe and didn't care a lot for what was going on and the bureaucracy just grew out of hand. Without enemies to defend against and competitors to outshine in technological advancement and a crippling political system chinese innovations pretty much ceased.

At the same time, the europeans started to really leap forward, nearly all of them monarchies. There was competetion, war and not enough space so everyone was constantly on the rush to find something to beat back his enemy - bringing up new weapons, innovations in food production etc.

This is what we saw in China 500 years prior: Petty chinese kingdoms fighting to become the Empire, Mongols harrasing the chinese, Manchus and Koreans meddling with them and so on.

tl;dr: As long as a nation has a drive to outcompete the others and the state is not an inefficient blob innovation is possible in every system.


fcfaff No.25253

>>25236

Any background on that illustration?


7ae65a No.25257

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>>25253

It's from a manuscript called Madrid Skylitzes (I'm not a Byzantinist, but reverse image search is a thing), and depicts a Byzantine ship projecting Greek fire (an inflammable mixture) on an enemy ship with a siphon. Basically a medieval flamethrower.


9bfc4d No.25266

>>25257

From what I've read they had those flamethrowers on siege towers and even had man portable ones used in the breaking up of enemy formations.




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