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There's no discharge in the war!

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4c8ec7 No.483252[Reply]

Repostan from /pol/

Making the Federal Government More Efficient, Effective, and Accountable to the American People

> On March 13th, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order that will make the Federal government more efficient, effective, and accountable to you, the American people. This Executive Order directs the Director of the Office of Management and Budget to present the President with a plan that recommends ways to reorganize the executive branch and eliminate unnecessary agencies.

>President Trump wants to hear your ideas and suggestions on how the government can be better organized to work for the American people.

>Share your ideas below by June 12th!

Recommend departments to reform as well as departments to eliminate completely.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/reorganizing-the-executive-branch

We could get the ATF to allow for fully auto funs, and maybe have our way with the 1968/1986 gun laws!

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4a78ea No.499223

>>495278

>all that shit

>going away with the ATF

You really think the FBI is going to take it's cock out of everyone's asshole just because you tear down the ATF?




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b451df No.475472[Reply]

MOD EDIT: See >>483058 & >>483033

OK /k/. Went to my congressman's town hall to ask about his progress on National Firearms Act repeal>>475198 (new topic because the topic change is pretty major and this really deserves an OP)Did not get to ask my question, the Future Fascists were out in full force and slowed everything down and stopped him from getting though enough questions. Was a fun bit though where one of them accused him of sending soldiers to die in Iraq for oil and using the front row of veterans as "props". 1 minute on Wikipedia will tell you the Congressman wasn't elected till 2013 and is an Iraq war veteran himself. He went ballistic. There was a camera on tripod recording the Congressman and plenty of individual recorders, so I expect video of it soon. I did get to talk with his District Director again afterwards though. He said he was still working with the legislative team on my request (expected), but he also said something I didn't expect: He was trying to find some time to schedule me to talk one on one with the congressman in mid-April.This is still tentative, but it's clear I should do research for more supporting arguments. Planning to call Gun Owners of America (I'm a member) on Monday to see if they have any resources or recommendations. (I'll attach the notes I already sent in another post)Anyone have a list of FFLs and manufacturers in Florida? Been looking to find something like that. "Jobs" is the best word to use when dealing with politicians.

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2361a8 No.497264

Can we replace this sticky with

>>497203

?




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91d774 No.339941[Reply]

Welcome to /k/

If you're looking for gun history, terms, the basics to gun laws, or what gun you should buy next, go here: http://amagicalplace.wikia.com/wiki/Sticky#

Other board of interest:

>>>/wrol/

Rules: http://8ch.net/k/rules.html

Check the sticky before posting.

All random questions about guns go in the QTDDTOT thread.

Please check the Catalog before posting and avoid duplicate threads.

Tripfags need not apply; see rule 7

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09493f No.501041

>>500944

Yes.

Rampage and Assault on Wallstreet ware quite ok.

If there even can be such thing as a good Uwe Boll movie.




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b21376 No.501096[Reply]

>grill asks me "anon, why do they make guns so heavy?"

>mfw

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9a488d No.501271

File: d3b2666eb40f1c5⋯.jpg (207.16 KB, 493x660, 493:660, 1435689904812-0.jpg)

>>501237

>Recoil is a lie

>what is conservation of momentum

p = 0 = m1v1 + m2v2 -> m1v1 = -m2v2

for the sake of simplicity, and because i've been drinking and i'm lazy I'll assume that we're using magic gunpowder and brass that are weightless. Let's compare the USP and Glock 17 in 9mm.

Unloaded, the Glock weighs 710g and the USP 748g. A single 9mm bullet weighs 7.45g. So the guns with only a bullet in the chamber will weigh 717.45g and 755.45g. Let's keep it on the low end and assume a muzzle velocity of 985ft/s or 300.228m/s.

Back to conservation of momentum, m1v1 = -m2v2.

For the Glock:

7.45g*300.228m/s = -710g*v2

v2 = -(7.45g*300.228m/s)/710g = -3.15m/s

For the USP:

7.45g*300.228m/s = -748g*v2

v2= -(7.45g*300.228m/s)/748g = -2.99m/s

Now we can solve for the kinetic energy present in both guns:

KE=.5*m*V^2

Glock: .5*.710kg*(3.15m/s)^2 = 3.522 joules

USP: .5*.748kg*(2.99m/s)^2 = 3.343 joules

Since 1 joule = 1 newton meter

The Glock will travel back into the shooter's hand with 3.522Nm or 2.597 ftlbs of force and the USP 3.343Nm or 2.465 ftlbs of force.


3e9908 No.501275

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>>501271

In fairness I think he's trying to say that you're just supposed to endure the recoil and the discomfort. Like a true man.


a2d53e No.501298

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>>501246

That headline really ruffled my jimjams.


22821a No.501301

give her a cheap piece of shit made out of plastic chambered in .308 and see if she asks the same question


b0727b No.501313

>>501268

Bonus points for totally winning her heart. Girls are suckers for headpats. Sure, they might act all haughty, saying you're 'belittling' them, or 'treated them like a child', but deep down every girl wants to have her head patted.




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411ce7 No.500510[Reply]

Wire guided vs laser guided. Both gave to be pointed at targets until impact, with Kornet being harder to jam and hellfire being faster (less time between volleys).

Warheads are multifunction on both, with frag sleeve HEAT and using unused rocket fuel as a booster. HEAT penetration is similar.

Kornet has 20% more range and is $15k cheaper, but that price includes launch system, training aids and maintenance.

I guess my question is:

Why isn't Kornet used more by helicopters, drones, insurgents, ANA Cessnas and so on?

It seems fairly comparable to hellfire and one doesnt have to jump through Hillarys State Department hoops.

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ea5de3 No.501238

>>500569

Why the fuck should you even try when there are stingers?


ea5de3 No.501241

>>500614

>hypervelocity missile with a kinetic penetrator

Good luck hitting fast maneuvering aircraft with that.


90ff03 No.501303

>>501238

>Why the fuck should you even try when there are stingers?

'Cause I don't know how they're split in the greek army but I know that AA fireteams with Mistral in France are a fucking rare sight, it's not even regiment level…

Having something "good enough to do the job" is exactly what the infantry needs, because the lower echelons almost never have what they need to deal with the threat unless everything goes according to plan…


e075d0 No.501305

>>500643

The Javelin's CLU is not dead weight, the gunner chooses the attack profile and brackets the target which is transmitted to the missile's seeker so it knows which blob in the video frame to home in on. I mean yes, you could make a wood-launched Javelin but it would just indiscriminately attack the closest hot object in front of it.

Kornets (or any other kind of SACLOS missile) are not jam-proof. It only becomes a question of jamming the launch platform's optics which the missile relies on completely, regardless of whether it's wire guided or beam riding. This is the basis for the T-90's Shtora system and it achieves a high rate of success if Russian sources are to be believed.


90ff03 No.501312

>>501305

> This is the basis for the T-90's Shtora system and it achieves a high rate of success if Russian sources are to be believed.

No it's not.

The reason why Russian soft kill works well against SACLOS is simple, they multiply IR source at the right frequencies to mimick the IR flare at the back of most missiles used as reference for tracking, making the aiming post losing the tracking and fucking up it's aim. And the intensity of the IR pulses is high enough to fry/blind self guiding sensors on fire & forget missile when they're close enough which add a level of protection (it's dubious whether or not it really works on Hellfire or Javelin because those would already be flying towards the tank and be fairly close… but then again you don't need to miss by much to miss the tank entirely).

Modern Russian SACLOS missiles work differently as it's the missile tracking the post for spatial reference while the post only direct guidance telling him where to go (instead of telling where he is and where to go).

It's pretty jam proof (the post is too far to be jammed and the missile doesn't "look" at the tank) and not really hard to make, and the reason why the Russians are making so much R&D into hard-kill, because they know that sooner or later others are gonna figure it out…




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1dd1c3 No.481251[Reply]

So we don't have multiple threads made /v/irgins asking what guns to put in their indie game or multiple threads about the HECU Marines from Half-Life let's have a cyclical thread for contained vidya discussion.

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abae62 No.500898

>>500462

Is it even possible to make a game worse than playerunknown's balancing concepts? The third person camera means you hide behind or on top of anything and win because you can see everyone while being completely hidden and it got retardedly popular because normal fags love terrible walking crafting zombie streamer bait games.

>>500464

Pavel said he wanted to make another game with tracked vehicles. Though after what ovee put him through I wouldn't be surprised if he never tries to make a game ever again.


dcc0a9 No.501155

>>500898

Third person shooters aren't very good for competitive games except maybe for Gears of War. If you're behind a hill and have the high ground you basically win any firefight.


ec7da4 No.501256

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>>497327

New Vegas mods are full of "lol I change nuka cola bottle to soda bottle" and "here's a script to make walking backwards slower XDXDXDXD" Try an actual answer.

>>497798

>t. spoony

>>497806

Ah yes, not like BASED Obsidian and its BASED invisible walls, BASED gays and dykes, BASED tranny scientist, BASED reddit humor DLC (Old World Blues), BASED cut content, BASED "no post-game", BASED "follow the story or you'll get instakilled by deathclaws and cazadors open world games should be linear".

>>483956

>Being a communist

>>487696

>>487715

Didn't the animator also work on Frozen Zone? Nothing will ever come of it.

>>488265

>superfancy pre-rendered video

>shadows are still low resolution and flickery like the average consolefag game

>those russian sleep experiment types in the room

>>500898

Isn't that shit game just DayZ with a different name?


a1c141 No.501281

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>>501256

Holy shit you're retarded. You mentioned console limitations, to which I responded that it's a mod for PC only. If you seriously struggle to understand that answer then you are one of the last people who should be anywhere near a board about weapons.

>m-muh Obsidian

Never mind that Bethesda intentionally fucked them over and only gave them 18 months to make the game in the hopes of it tanking and putting them in a position to be bought out, only for the resulting game to be infinitely better than any Fallout game Bethesda could actually make, making them butthurt to the point where they refuse to even acknowledge its existence in both Fallout 4 and real life.


8cc212 No.501311

>>501281

Nigger, Obsidian were NEVER good and a paraplegic toddler could have cummed out a better Fallout game than Bethesda. Stop giving them credit where credit is not due.




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c26029 No.501212[Reply]

So a fun little fantasy I like to think of is, what if the Gate from GATE opened up in the United States?

Specifically in a city like New York but it can be anywhere that you are familiar with. In the initial opening, thousands of roman era tier soldiers and fantasy races pour through it and ransack the city. In the ensuing chaos, thousands of people are drug through the gate to god knows where.

You have been appointed as the commander of a division sized element of personnel of your choice for the retaliation, and rescue of these citizens. You are authorized the utilization of all non-nuclear ordinance and equipment.

So /k/, how do you respond? What is your load out?

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01d684 No.501231

>>501228

The anime was called "Blood blockade battlefront" and it was a steaming pile of shit. Which is a shame because it was well animated and even had battlefront in the name.


b42425 No.501236

>>501215

>>501220

Surprised you wouldn't send a note asking them to take out LA ad San Francisco while they are at it?


c26029 No.501239

Interesting responses, not where I saw this going.

I love /k/


5aadba No.501294

Unit would be high mobility with an emphasis on long range engagement, sensors and reconnaissance. Build around a high mobility decently armored platform like the T-15 or Patria AMV and equip them with autocannon, ATGM, and the best sensor suite available. Equip troops with fairly standard weaponry; make long range engagement a priority, but make accomadations for more close encounters. So M16A4 with optic for most soldiers, decent number of DMR and sniper rifles, maybe in a 6.5 or .338 caliber. Light machine guns on the squad level, something like the Minimi, a dedicated MG squad for each platoon equipped with either a PKM, a FN MAG, or a MG 3. SMGs available for units on as-needed basis; probably MPX in .357 sig with a handgun to match. Carl Gustaf recoilless guns, RPO Shmel thermobaric launchers, and Bur launchers issued as needed for area devastation or hardened targets.

Tank assets would be of limited value, but artillery would be highly valuable. Msta self propelled howitzers, Tochka tactical missiles, and a good variety of heavy mortars.

Take apart some helicopters and wheel them inside the portal then reassemble them.

Spearhead a first attack with armor and heavily equipped infantry to establish a bridgehead on the other side. Shoot anything that moves and completely incinerate five or more square miles around the area. Use this as a base from which to direct aerial resupplies.

Use aerial recon assets to determine the location of the personnel and set out in that direction, annihilating anything alive in the path, preferably from afar by means of artillery. Sorcerers can't use magical cheats if they can't fucking see you. Escort helicopters may be necessary to keep the ammo flowing if angry magic things start attacking the airborne choppers along the resupply route. Take no prisoners and help the supply unit along by pillaging for sustenance.

Once the location of the hostages is reached, assuming it is a large settlement or fortress, lay siege to it and begin bombardment of anything that has arrows coming from it. Attempt to force a surrender, threatening the same annihilation of those that came before. Otherwise, breach the walls whenever the enemy seems sufficiently worn down and move in with explosives and flame weapons. A strong caution shouPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


d2ffa0 No.501310

File: d527a05a18c6f72⋯.jpg (29.74 KB, 455x661, 455:661, Time For A Crusade.jpg)

My men will fight with fire and steel. The degenerate subhumans will be the first purged once we cross the gate. Then, we come for the elves. Then, the gold clutching dwarves. Humans will be spared if they convert. Otherwise, there'll be nothing left of their world but ashes.




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fe4b0e No.501240[Reply]

>Get hands on functional replica crossbow similar to pic related

>Draws 500+ lb at 9"

>Hits super hard but the bolt seems to fly pretty slow compared to my fiberglass recurve

Are these weapons viable for hunting, or just autistic LARP items that will scare off a deer before a bolt hits it?

aa5378 No.501249

>>501240

Given how hunting isn't a modern-day invention and we have records of people hunting with things like slings, bows, javelins and crossbows since antiquity all the way even into the modern era, yes they're viable for hunting, idiot.


19d891 No.501257

If it kills things, you can hunt with it. Just git gud.

Also, next time use the QTDDTOT.


15aa69 No.501277

>can a tool that was once commonly used in hunting and still enjoys use today be viable for hunting

Gee, I don't know, Strelok.


571251 No.501299

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>>501277

It's a legitimate concern, especially if he's been out of the game for a few years. Unless you constantly participate, it's hard to keep tabs on the hunting meta. Personally, I think it would be viable because the anti-crossbow defenses that deer used to use have fallen out of favor in order to pursue a more gun-oriented strategy.

Guns are obviously the more popular hunting option, so I think any deer that squares up with you will be expecting something you don't have. All you have to do is exploit their expectations to get a kill.

Keep in mind, though, anti-gun strats aren't actually all that different from anti-crossbow ones. This is only going to work because of how heavily optimized their anti-gun tactics are. If the deer in your area get wind of your plans, it doesn't take much investment to tailor their defenses to accommodate crossbows, so don't get too attached to one hunting area.


c6eb00 No.501309

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>Are these weapons viable for hunting

Of course they are you fucking idiot. People hunted with spears and slings before crossbows were invented. Are you stupid?




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678820 No.498168[Reply]

>weapons look too modernized for world war 2

>female soldiers in combat

>Black soldiers serving in nazi Germany army including black female S.S officers

Holy shit. Call of duty WW2 makes Battlefield 1 look like project reality and Verdun.

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b3381a No.501291

>>501290

>Spandau

was emblematic of him just pulling shit out of his ass and pretending to have professional knowledge of things he fucks up hard. Intense anglophilia seems to cloud his thinking a lot too.


90de9c No.501292

>>501286

>Writers of generic fantasy plagiarise LotR

>This is somehow Lindy's fault


9cc248 No.501304

>>501290

I watch his content and some of it is good, however it is not always right. Just of the top of my head he has been wrong about or has misunderstood bayonets, pikes, halberds and infamously, the German WW2 machine guns. He is smart but he theorizes a lot.


e138cf No.501307

>>501292

>not knowing LotR

>using pleb examples

>not being held accountable for it

I didn't make the rules of autism


3f3cc5 No.501308

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>>501304

Can't forget the barrel brakes.

>>501290

He's a fairly knowledgeable fellow, at least when it comes to a few topics, mainly stuff he has direct experience with. Just remember he's a literal LARPer with a history degree and field experience as an archeologist, who named his channel after a degenerate depression era dance craze, has probably never been in much of a fight that didn't involve an initiative roll in his life, and knows less about firearms than you do, even if you started lurking here 5 minutes ago; keeping all of that in mind, feel free to enjoy a 20 minute expose on cloaks in the fantasy genre from a man who has sown a wool blanket into hobo disguise, which goes brilliantly with the crackhead-haircut he's rocking, as he spews out an unhinged diatribe about the combat viability of his blanket.




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500d84 No.501242[Reply]

Jury! Is she guilty of treason? We're going to vote with yea or nays.

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6215e7 No.501255

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>>501242

They really believe it you know. They can't imagine a reason why anyone would sincerely disagree with them. It would be so simple; just get rid of the guns and everyone would be safe. All that stands in the way are a handful of villains. Corrupt gun companies who literally profit from the murder of children. Warped idealogues who fantasize about the violent overthrow of the government so they can establish their dream of an apartheid America. Psychologically disturbed individuals animated by paranoiac fantasies or sexual inadequacies.

In a way I envy them. They are never dissuaded by the black pill. Their conviction is total. They really have found a way to turn ignorance into a kind of strength. I know too many people like this.


252c58 No.501285

>>501251

>Attempting to remove the peoples' right to defend themselves.

>Not helping a foreign enemy.


43a4d8 No.501289

>4 posts ITT

>CTRL+F "yea"

>only OP

Bunch of damned leftists around here. Yea, anyone who tries to restrict the constitution is treasonous.


1815ab No.501293

>>501242

she creeps it me out


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Absolutely, she's a total traitor to the constitution. I really cannot stand (((her))).




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235062 No.487757[Reply]

>ITT we post guns that we are currently considering and other /k/omrades try to talk us out of it

Why shouldn't I get an m1 carbine?

And why shouldn't the thought of owning one arouse me in the way it does?

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da8764 No.498904

>>498900

Thanks for all this info, anon


e0b57a No.501187

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9cadfb No.501191

>>501187

There are 3 new models of the Glock 19 coming out. The 19FS, 19C, and 19M. 2 are on their website the 3rd is LEO.


f23c38 No.501244

>>498900

Even if you wanted a pre-built AR, you really should just buy an upper, a lower parts kit (possibly a bundle of those 2) and any aluminum lower from a local gun shop. Assembling a lower is piss easy.

As for buying a lower, just call your local gun stores and ask their lowest aluminum lower price. Most of the time it will be less expensive than ordering online because you'd be spending 30 bucks on transfer fee and more on shipping.

The only real variations in lower are material (always get aluminum), and presence/absense of intergrated trigger guard (No experience with this). Previously you might have seen some lowers without trigger guards (this was extremely early and will only be for replicas of early ARs) and high shelf (I don't think these were ever sold on their own, but avoid them). Some rare ones will have fancy crap on the front of the mag well, but these will be more expensive and less compatible. Quality for aluminum lowers (at least in US) is consistent enough.


e532f3 No.501302

>>498852

Everything I've heard says that the build quality is garbage and the action is far from smooth. I love the concept of it, but it looks like a miss in execution. As it stands, there could be a reasonable market for "high capacity" detachable mag bolt guns, but the options are very limited. Granted this is all hearsay, but you should probably handle it for yourself.




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feddbc No.484012[Reply]

Why does the US under appreciate Artillery?

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2e592b No.501125

>>497607

IIRC from the 2002 edition of Janes Artillery (which my old library had a copy of), that was a planned range for the projectile that lost the rocket assist and became Excalibur.


9f706b No.501129

>>501125

Does it say anything concrete, or it was just one of those vague "give us 200 billion dollars every year, and we will surely deliver" kind of deals?


0f2257 No.501146

>>484012

we have drones and air superiority, plus rail guns on newer naval ships. if we want to go easy on our enemies we can call the british to use their artillery, which is capable of firing while moving I think, and it is known to fire several shots in an arc so they all hit at once


e233ec No.501296

>>501129

I seem to recall it was going to use scramjet propulsion, but as I said, they dropped that and kept the GPS guidance part, which became the M982 Excalibur round.

Anything more, you'll have to find the edition of Jane's which had the XM2001 Crusader, I no longer have access to that library because I've moved.


e233ec No.501300

>>501146

>we have drones and air superiority

Only because you limit yourselves to fighting third-world shitholes.




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9d5a60 No.496656[Reply]

What are the top things preventing caseless guns/ammo to be a thing, technology/material wise, leaving politics and economics aside.

I know of the heat problem but not much else.

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62e627 No.501175

>>496788

I know guys in the STAT (army R&D) are working on making neckless 6,5mm (can't remember if it's Lapua or Norma. Probably Lapua).

Which would instantly rape any existing round.

As light as 5.56, as powerful as 7.62.

Now of course it has no snowball chance in hell to be adopted or even leave prototyping but hey.


b70111 No.501201

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>>501116

>>501118

What about multiple non rotating barrels?


6c593a No.501278

>>496656

Heat is far and away the largest issue, even if you could solve that with advanced materials you could just have a similar gun using normal ammo that could fire for longer without melting.


6c593a No.501279

>>501112

>There already are machines to industrially produce bread, and similar mechanisms could be used in the gun

>Bombing the last bakery in a city is now a valid military tactic

>>501118

Weight + a small increase in complexity. Also, perhaps moreso at rifle scale, wouldn't that cause issues with accurate fire at longer ranges (obviously an issue for fixed barrels more than rotary ones but rotating ones again need more weight and complexity).


269d0b No.501297

>>496656

Propellant is brittle and fragments flying around in the action jam the gun, which is then extremely difficult to take apart to clean. With no eject case acting as a heat sink, it heats up faster. Up the ass expensive even under best conditions.

As far as caseless goes, you'll have better luck with bullets and propellant being separate, bullet being forced into the barrel mechanically and then propellant weighted and aligned with the barrel to form a chamber, electrically ignited. You'll probably have to use longer thinner bullets so they can be fed from a magazine reliably. The propellant would be normal gunpowder. Igniter would be powered from a battery, one AAA in the bottom of the magazine should be plenty.




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3810e1 No.483182[Reply]

Previous related thread seems to be completely gone, and it's a pity. The gist of what we learned is that fire control became a wee bit better since ww2, and a modern battleship could have enough AA firepower to destroy all the planes and ordnance a supercarrier. And big guns could fire guided scramjet projectiles at targets hundreds of naval miles away, and still hit. And material science and propulsion technology also got better, not to mention automation.

So, how about a nuclear powered battleship with combustible light gas guns? They use hydrogen instead of solid propellants, and apparently can launch projectiles at hypervelocity. The ship could get the hydrogen for the guns from sea water and store it in liquid form deep inside the hull, as it's nuclear powered. Then the projectiles would be various guided shells and missiles launched from the CLGGs. I think the main cannons could be 12 inch smoothbore guns with uncharacteristically long barrels, as we only intend to use guided projectiles. Get 4 triple turrets, and for the secondary battery just use a ridiculous amount (10-30) of triple turrets with dual-purpose 155mm CLG cannons, also long barrelled. Remember, we want to use guided scramjets, and designing a version of them that can hit aerial targets shouldn't be a problem.

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341823 No.501198

File: 5efcd334a625d6c⋯.png (173.21 KB, 2078x533, 2078:533, BB-62 VLS Conversion 2.png)


e5b08f No.501200

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>>501195

>Japs start a shipbuilding program

>all the new ships get ported into that shipslut game

>the girls all have simple dark hair and dark eyes

>their designs are also down to earth, the official explanation is that modern designs are also quite streamlined compared to ww2 ships

>they speak about preparing for a coming war, and how they need strong men to protect and bed them

>young Japanese men are slowly brainwashed into liking Japanese girls around them

>recruitment and marriage rates skyrocket

>gyms are also overcrowded

Maybe it was their plan all along.


0decdf No.501258

>>501195

Whoops, I meant to add that part where it's built from the ground up, rewrites & shit.

Like they restart building the USS Illinois & Kentucky along the modern lines.

There was a proposal for the New Jersey to have her third turret removed and replaced with a VLS but it was too expensive and would put too much weight forward, (way more drastic than >>501198 ) which is why I suggested the 2nd turret be removed and replaced instead to deal with weight balance.


341823 No.501267

>>501258

Don't forget how metallurgy,and battle damage control has went light years ahead of what they had in the 40s.

Modern day warship interior has been designed in a honeycomb fashion.

1940s ship designs would get raped by missiles.


e9d08e No.501295

>>499288

They have spall liners. The only ship class around today to be armored in the usual sense of having steel plate is the Kirov class, with a three inch belt protecting the engine. Otherwise a ship's armor is compartmentalization, maneuvering, and countermeasures.

Some AShM, the P-15 for example, have shaped charged warheads as it is, intended to blow through as many compartments of a ship as possible. Add enough armor to stop one and you are so slow they'll just hit you three or four time until something gives.

adding enough armor to protect against more than fragmentation is not worth the reduction in speed.

As long as cheap diesel subs are around huge surface combatants are only going to get more vulnerable unless we see a massive ASW advance.




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374135 No.491876[Reply]

>What branch are you joining?

Marines

>What job/mos/rate are you looking for?

1833 AAV Crewman

1812 M1 Armour Crewman

>Why are you joining?

I want to make a career out of the military and retire early. I can no longer afford college nor do I have the drive/motivation to continue taking classes.

>How long is your initial contract?

Shooting for eight years

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5d983c No.500672

>>500508

Think about your question then come back.


270295 No.500685

>>500672

Which question?

I don't think the first one is hiding anything at all and I dont know if in the coast guard you get to shoot illegal mejicans or thats national guard


948430 No.501276

>>500663

Prep-H, healthy food, don't run so hard, munch on apples.


910756 No.501283

Ah, the perfect thread!

I'm 17, and was hoping to join the Navy. I never cared enough to get anything more than a C in HS, and I'm not good enough at wrestling to get a scholarship. What would be the best position to learn a useful trade(what trade is best these days?). Also, if a trade isn't for me, would my service qualify me for some educational aid after my contract is up?

I was also considering Army, how easy would it be to "redistribute" some Army material into my own possession?


77f7ee No.501288

>>501283

Helicopter Repair is always good, as well as intelligence specialist.

Just know that after 4 years, if you dont plan on going to college then you should just re-enlist. Otherwise you will fall into a cycle of meritocracy.




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