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 No.306672[Reply]

This is a thread for giving feedback and complaints about moderation actions.

Because there are so many new Volunteers right now, we are bound to hit a few bumps in the next week or so. If you see a thread deleted or moderated in a way that you think is unfair, please post ITT, preferably with evidence or a detailed description of it. This won't guarantee a reversal, but it will help bring it to my attention. Volunteers who turn out to be repeat offenders and refuse to learn will have their accounts removed. You can also monitor our actions here:

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftypol

https://8ch.net/bans.html

As well, Volunteers who can't decide what to do about something should post ITT to get feedback before acting.

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 No.1508697

>>1507892

I'm good with the mathematics.

motherfucking subtraction.




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 No.1312944[Reply]

Official /leftypol/ reading list

In this thread, various members of the community have listed recommended literature regarding leftism, i.e. economics, political theory, philosophy and other subjects related to leftism. Some recommendations are for starters, or for those in advanced literature.

/Leftypol/ has many ideologies, Marxist, Anarchist, Left-com, etc. so there is a variety of different literature with different viewpoints.

Reading literature is recommended, as it helps you understand leftism better and is much better than reading Wikipedia synopses.

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 No.1507656

>>1383810

the left is more into empirical reality and cold hard rationality. Mysticism and esoteric content is definitely lacking on the left and IMO is necessary to have. Mythology and mysticism doesn't have to be taken literally and can sometimes convey concepts that help with your understanding of reality. They may be spooks but to appeal to the masses spooks are important.

what would be wrong with adopting said "spooks" if you recognize what they are.




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 No.518058[Reply]

Hello and welcome to /leftypol/. Please check the board tags for related boards. These are our groups:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/leftypol

http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=leftypol

Leftybooru:

http://lefty.booru.org/

/leftypol/'s magazine:

http://bunkermag.org/

Other leftist chans/backups:

http://www.getchan.net/

http://www.bunkerchan.org/

FAQ:

>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects of leftism are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums would tend to ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

>I'm not a leftist can I post here?

/leftypol/ welcomes debate from non-leftists. Non-leftists frequently come here to ask questions and raise topics for debate. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>Are you liberals? Are you SJWs? Do you like Obama? Are you all Zionists???

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 No.1504805

>>1503619

Fucking this. Five other boards I browse regularly get discord spam. There's always faggots trying to leech users off of imageboards and into discords. I want to talk ON THE IMAGEBOARD not on some gay chat.




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 No.1496186[Reply]

It's high time we addressed the biggest cancer currently facing the board. Leftcoms, and specifically bordigists.

They are a cancer in the most absolute form of the word. They have no function other to merely exist and reproduce, they live like a parasite on the board culture of other hard working, dutiful posters, while providing nothing to the workers movement or the board besides shitty forced memes about how much of lazy faggots they are.

Furthermore, their sectarianism is a disease that puts tankies and ancoms to shame. Take note, you will never see two bordigists disagree with one another in the same way two stalinists or two market socialists might. They only attack other, more productive, users, dividing the board and preventing any meaningful action.

In terms of theory, bordigists offer nothing that has not already been tried in the 20th century, but just slap on a fresh new double chinned face and call anyone who disagrees with them "revisionists" and "opportunists". They eagerly proclaim "let us critique everything"! But if anyone dares say a word against the sacred Bordgia and Marx, god help them!

All they do is divert energy away from the workers movement. Their posts and threads must be bullied, called out, and saged. We must exorcise this cancer from our body.

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 No.1508812

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>>1508810

and learned absolutely nothing, it seems.


 No.1508823

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>>1508812

You people will never learn anything from the fall of the USSR, it failed on all levels both in economic level " NEP state capitalism" and on the theoretical level "the vanguard will never regress to capitalism"

It is time to stop being children of communism and pick up a real theory u fucks.


 No.1508824

>>1508812

>when an ML tells you to read

yo i'm literally LMAOing at your life right now. Here you are genuinely posting on a copycat of a copycat anime imagebaord thinking it's an effective way to "expand class consciousness" to all those stupid proles on /pol/ and reddit while I sit here, in my armchair, being paid WEEKLY by the CIA to shitpost


 No.1508836

>>1496479

Thanks. I know leftcoms have a tendency to shit on you (look at /r/ultraleft in the last month) but it's because it's far too easy to shit on trots, socdems, and tankies (same thing, really).

It's out of love <3


 No.1508854

>>1508823

Lenin took power, he was successful in that, and advice on how to do so is exactly what he gives in that link.

also

>"the vanguard will never regress to capitalism"

>advocates vanguard




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 No.1508853[Reply]

I need to be cheer up.

I have been feeling a tremendous sense of dread and the cia wikileaks things has made me more paranoid.

how do you guys cope with hopelessness?



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 No.1507000[Reply]

Why the hell doesn't Bookchin have a mass following outside Kurdistan?

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 No.1508829

Could DemCon be a considered a revisionism of Bookchin's ideas since Rojava is nationalist even though Bookchin was explicitly against that?


 No.1508840

>>1508829

It's not nationalist in the way we mean it when we talk about nationalism 99% of the time. Explicitly setting up organizations for other ethnic groups to get them to buy into the political process is not exactly the path to a nation-state.


 No.1508845

>>1508806

I freely admitted that I thought Draper's assertions about anarchism were an overly broad generalisation - in fact that criticism was the basis of my entire post - but I take umbrage at that second article you posted.

I am so fucking sick of people on the left, both socialists and anarchists, who always jump immediately to an effectively anti-democratic politics. The middle section of the second article you posted is just so much sickening anti-deomcratic fucking 'tyranny of the majority' bullshit, it's fucking enraging.

And the pseudohistorical examples it cites! It's absolutely baseless to suggest that racism and homophobia originated from the minds of the mass of the population, they are obviously ideas designed to divide the population and secure minority rule.

You're so fucking terrified of democracy that you refuse to even support it in principle! With positions like that I honestly fail to see how you are any better than the fascists or the monarchs.


 No.1508850

>>1508845

Monarchy gets a bad rap IMO, there's something to be said for being able to just fucking murder the source of a problem.


 No.1508852

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>>1508829

No not revisionism in the sense that you mean it. They're not "nationalists". Bookchin understood the necessity for his ideas to be fit to the circumstances of the particular region and their distinct history and culture. If DemCon can be considered as "revisionist" in any sense, it's because of their views on the state and the fact that they created a state structure in addition to the TEV-DEM communalist structure.




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 No.1508804[Reply]

When and why did gamers and gaming culture become so reactionary? Did it all really start with GamerGate?

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 No.1508826

We have threads about this every week.


 No.1508832

Liberals libeled gamers and socialists didn't step up to defend them against the corporate media.

Also, this is now a thread about the philosophical themes of NieR: Automata.


 No.1508834

>>1508804

When leftists tried to inject it with their socjus cancer.


 No.1508849

>>1508834

>Forming your political views based on your hobby

Fucking dweebs


 No.1508851

How many fucking threads do we need to have about this? Gamer culture is irrelevant to anyone over 18.




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 No.1508848[Reply]

Can somebody redbull me on Houthis? Are they /ourguys/?



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 No.1504422[Reply]

/leftypol/, what's your opinion on (loli|shota)con and child sex dolls? Should they be illegal? Would they be illegal under a Socialist society, or would producers and users be punished under an anarchistic society?

Reddit doesn't like them: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/60x1ra/its_not_paedophilia_when_an_actual_child_is_not/

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 No.1508808

>>1508783

>people can be retarded if they're raised that way so let's take away their freedom

>people cannot be smart if they're raised properly

>also I get to decide when someone is smart enough to have freedom


 No.1508811

>>1508808

PEDOS GET THE BULLET

DEAL WITH IT


 No.1508816

>>1508808

>muh freedom to fuck a loli doll

yeah sorry, i don't care


 No.1508828

>>1508811

>Islamig gommunism

>Islam

So you're going to shoot yourself then?


 No.1508846

>>1508828

>if you convert to islam it suddenly makes you attracted to kids and it's just the same as if you've fucked children

are you pretending to be retarded?




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 No.1508318[Reply]

Canada's Parliament has declared criticism of Islam off-limits

Canadian Parliament:

>That, in the opinion of the House, the government should:

>(a) recognize the need to quell the increasing public climate of hate and fear;

>(b) condemn Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination and take note of House of Commons’ petition e-411 and the issues raised by it; and

>(c) request that the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage undertake a study on how the government could

>(i) develop a whole-of-government approach to reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination including Islamophobia, in Canada, while ensuring a community-centered focus with a holistic response through evidence-based policy-making,

>(ii) collect data to contextualize hate crime reports and to conduct needs assessments for impacted communities, and that the Committee should present its findings and recommendations to the House no later than 240 calendar days from the adoption of this motion, provided that in its report, the Committee should make recommendations that the government may use to better reflect the enshrined rights and freedoms in the Constitution Acts, including the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/330880-canadian-parliament-passes-anti-islamophobia-measure-making-criticism-of-islam-off-limits/

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 No.1508833

>Non-binding motion condemning islamophobia

>CRITICISM OF ISLAM IS BANNED!?!?

Never change aut-right


 No.1508839

>>1508781

There are already atheist critiques of Islam though, have you been under a rock?


 No.1508842

>>1508820

Het out of here you idealist

>>1508839

Yeah but more cant hurt


 No.1508844

>>1508842

Why are anarcho-nihilist bantz so bad


 No.1508847

>>1508842

You are are undoubtedly the most annoying poster on this board. At least hoochie can be filtered.




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 No.1508815[Reply]

I have seen some people describe Wizardchan as "left wing but against liberal identity politics" politically. Are they, dare I say it, /ourguys/?

 No.1508818

No.


 No.1508825

I've never used Wizardchan so I wouldn't know


 No.1508837

/leftypol/ feels compassion for their fellow men and is socially functional, wizards maybe aware of wageslavery but they're oka with capitalism as long they get their neetbucks.


 No.1508843

>>1508837

I think they could be easily swayed with the FALC idea, /leftypol/ should reach out to them, possibly with Bob Black




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 No.1508207[Reply]

http://player.cdn01.rambla.be/?accou...item_id=24lKYN

A large Belgian slaughterhouse was apparently closed over this undercover video taken over a month or so. Pretty nasty stuff, about 20 minutes long showing pigs being brutalized.

Whats your opinion on factory farming etc? Should a socialist state make it a priority to make farming more humane and transparent?

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 No.1508689

The priority should be that people are well fed.

I don't condone the terrors that happen on slaughter houses but it is what it is. If you are mad about it go complain to god he is the responsible for this retarded system where living beings have to eat living beings to survive, although since he is all knowing it's kinda obvious he made things like this because he enjoys the way things are.


 No.1508700

>>1508689

People are easier to feed with a vegetarian diet than a meat based one though.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/660S.full


 No.1508716

>>1508586

Most Indians are extremely poor and also can't eat beef for religious reasons


 No.1508784

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>>1508644

I disagree, unique one. Animals are my property, and it makes me feel bad when they are harmed and mistreated so fuck factory farming.


 No.1508841

>>1508586

M A T E R I A L I S M

India is poor as fuck, but getting better. That figure you quote is from 2009. The most recent UN estimate I can find is from 2011, and is 5-5.5kg/cap. Indian press started going nuts right after that about a drastic increase in meat consumption (like 67% a year). Might be a moral panic though.




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 No.1506316[Reply]

Mass evacuation after Ukraine depot blast

Some 20,000 people are being evacuated after a series of explosions at a massive arms depot in eastern Ukraine described by officials as sabotage.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39363416

London Attacker Was Investigated `Years Ago' by U.K. Spies

British security services once investigated the terrorist behind the worst attack on London in more than a decade, Prime Minister Theresa May said as Parliament resumed its work following Wednesday’s deadly assault.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-23/london-attacker-previously-investigated-by-u-k-spies-may-says

The Koch brothers plan to bankroll any Republicans opposing Trump's health care bill

The Koch brothers' network of well-funded outside groups says it will spend millions to protect Republicans who oppose the party's health care bill from political fallout.

https://mic.com/articles/171929/the-koch-brothers-plan-to-bankroll-any-republicans-opposing-trump-s-health-care-bill#.JkaHKnmiE

White Working-Class Death Rate to Be Elevated for a Generation

Researchers who sounded the alarm on increasing white working-class mortality blamed the trend Thursday on economic upheaval that created a web of social issues so tightly interwoven that even successful policies would take years to unsnarl them.

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 No.1508550

>>1506767

Not that Novorossiya isn't a cargo-cult-communism farce, but I see the Donetsk party was barred from one election a while ago due to a supposed clerical error, and I see nothing about Luhansk.

>>1508168

>using only non-PRISM hardware

Google is returning confusing results. More details, please?

>>1508512

>What he actually said was that the threat of terrorism is expected if you live in a big city which is pretty much common sense.

But… that's the exact same thing.


 No.1508594

>>1508550

It quite literally isn't the same thing.

There's a difference between "threat of terrorism" and "terrorist acts".

The former was said in the context of advising Londoners to be vigilant. The latter would imply that that terrorist attacks are inevitable.

It's really not hard to understand why these are different messages


 No.1508646

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>>1508594

Alright, you have a point. I concede.


 No.1508830

>that moment when you realize that NSA/CIA/GCHQ can be used to plan glorious gommunist revolution


 No.1508838

>>1508830

I wonder who's behind that post




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 No.1508315[Reply]

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 No.1508780

>>1508665

He actually was an AnCap too


 No.1508787

>>1508640

Sales tax is entirely reactionary, it only affects proles.


 No.1508791

>>1508315

No, he's cringe.


 No.1508797

>>1508787

I'd argue it has a greater effect on the petitbourg, since people who regularly buy expensive appliances and electronics would spend the most sales tax.

Not that I really care for taxes at all since the way the state uses it is waste and doesn't benefit the majority of people it collects them from.


 No.1508835

>>1508601

I was unironically born & raised to an aristocratic family in the gold coast of CT. i'm probably the only commie to ever come out of there

could probably bankroll a /leftypol/ maoist insurgency in New England once the inheritance hits or just kms for being bougie trsh




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 No.1507477[Reply]

>Jake Gyllenhaal is reteaming with his Life director Daniel Espinosa for an adaptation of the Rolling Stone article, "The Anarchists vs. ISIS."

>Espinosa is set to direct the film adaptation and will produce under his newly formed production banner BOZI alongside Ninestories’ producers Gyllenhaal and Riva Marker. Bold Films chairman Michel Litvak will also produce, and CEO Gary Michael Walters will executive produce.

>The Rolling Stone article, written by Seth Harp, tells the true story of a ragtag team of American volunteers, socialists and outcasts who are fighting alongside the Kurdish militia known as the YPG to beat ISIS in Syria and establish an anarchist collective amid the rubble of war.

This is kind of fucked, Jack Gyllenhaall is a great actor though.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jake-gyllenhaal-daniel-espinosa-team-up-isis-drama-anarchists-isis-988384

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 No.1508777

>>1508775

>How do SJW Tankie Twitter and Unruhe get along? Do they interact at all?

I'm pretty sure the Roo hates SJWs so probably not.

also

>/leftypol/ are chauvinistic idealists who ignore the material contradictions of race and nation

lel


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 No.1508821

File: eb64be79aa2efd5⋯.jpg (11.12 KB, 215x234, 215:234, reeeeemad.jpg)

>Everything must be commodified

This better not portray the YPG as fucking liberals

>>1507607

>Bale did a film about the Armenian Genocide

On the other hand this might be good.


 No.1508827

File: 67619d0bdf8dd43⋯.jpg (41.74 KB, 531x471, 177:157, absolutelyhalal.jpg)

>>1507912

>yfw Jake Gyllenhaal takes the method acting too far and does a 6 month stint in the YPG

Meme this.


 No.1508831

>>1508223

"queer" nearly always just means "straight, but I want to feel/appear to be part of a fashionable struggle"




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