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On Extinction Anonymgtow 04/18/15 (Sat) 21:31:14 120b0a No.1328

I have a question - it's probably going to come off as a bit of a provocation or a challenge - for MGTOW, being a guy who sympathizes with Men's Rights issues. It looks like MGTOW and MRAs are getting pretty heavily divided against one another, and my impression of MGTOW is that your approach is not one of political activism but rather quiet detachment from society as a form of strike. My question is this, if this is your approach - and by all means correct me if it isn't - how will it be the whole of society which suffers the loss rather than MGTOW who opt out of it? Isn't opting out of reproduction the equivalent of self-genocide? Isn't exiting the political arena just going to leave your stance on gender issues to die?

I suppose it sounds like I'm calling you guys quitters, and I kind of am, because I want to know what the MGTOW endgame is. It saddens me to see guys who develop a healthy respect for the male sex drive themselves into obscurity and extinction, like volunteering to kill yourself so that your enemy can take the field. I'm sure you don't think of yourselves that way, so maybe I have the wrong idea of it. Do I?

Anonymgtow 04/18/15 (Sat) 22:05:59 c714ec No.1329

>>1328
we are not trying to change anything, we are protecting ourselves.

>the MGTOW endgame is
it doesn't really have one, but my best guess would be to live a happy life, don't let anyone use you, and laugh at institutions and people that get butt-hurt, because men are living for themselves.

Anonymgtow 04/18/15 (Sat) 23:53:04 419fab No.1331

Look at japan, 50% of their male population have gone "herbivore" the japanese version of mgtow, they have negative population growth now. All developed countries have falling brithrates, mgtow is just the natural progression of our own mouse utopia.

I think it is all for the best, if materialism is true and we are just nothing but a collection of neurons and synapses, then sooner then latter machines will out think us. IBM already has 16 million neuron ( 4096 million synapses) neuromorphic processors and will have human level 80 billion neuron arrays running by the 2020s. Once machines match and exceed our intelligence we will be obsolete, best developed the technology to copy our neural pathways into the immortal artificial ones and give up on these talking monkey bodies.

Anonymgtow 04/19/15 (Sun) 09:25:32 98d784 No.1332

I don't know a single person plugged into the system who could be considered "content."

all the people who "succeeded" in society; who had children and gained status, are fucking miserable sacks of shit. they constantly whine about every little thing, despite having more money than I will ever see. the men are all whipped little cucks, running around at the behest of twats, waiting for the sword to fall and destroy their finances and their cozy place in the ivory tower.

all the fathers sit around like the hostages they know they are, awaiting execution day. the mothers are petit tyrants, screaming at everyone, every moment of their lives.

>how will it be the whole of society which suffers the loss rather than MGTOW who opt out of it? Isn't opting out of reproduction the equivalent of self-genocide?

the suffering is already occurring. the genocide is already occurring. mgtow choose not to burden themselves with the mistaken belief that the american dream still exists in it's original incarnation.

women are the gatekeepers to sex, which leads to children. in order to fix society, women have to be broken down. until that happens, having children at all is not a possibility.

Anonymgtow 04/19/15 (Sun) 15:07:12 2cf664 No.1338

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>>1328

It isn't really self genocide.

There's always been people who didn't want a partner or were social outcasts by choice.

It's like an equilibrium in chemistry, when being plugged into society gives you vast benefits, if women respect you, love you and allow your self determination, if being the head or part of a family means being a respected person and people look up to you, if masculinity is a good thing which is praised, there will be less MGTOW.

If the circumstances are similar or the same as ours, there will be more MGTOW.

Until society becomes a better place for a man, the numbers of MGTOW will rise, I doubt that we will reach the point of total boycott, though.

Anonymgtow 04/19/15 (Sun) 21:17:28 e8875d No.1339

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>whole society will suffer

Like I give a fuck, society can go fuck itself and die. I never signed any contract that said I will look for "society" and sacrifice myself for this "noble cause". Who gives society the right to ask me to slave away for their interest and then call me egoistic if I refuse to do it? This is just so hilarious, you get called egoist if you reject the egoistic requests of society.

>no reproduction is self genocide

First of all, mgtow does not mean not reproducing. In a few years we might have artificial wombs. If not; no problem either. There are countires that allow surrogacy. Second, believe it or not, you will die anyway. It does not matter if you have children or not. You will die one day. I never understood why people are so obsessive about this "immortality project", they don't even have a guarantee that their children will continue their will.

>exiting the political arena

Tell me what can we change on a political level? First of all the point of no return is crossed already. The damage is done already and I only know it was not me and I will not clean up this shit because some idiots fell for the socialist and feminist lies.

Second Women are the 51% already plus they also have bluepill manginas and whiteknights and we are playing a dictature of the majority game called "democracy". I wonder who will win.

>mgtow endgame

MGTOW is about freedom and living your life freely. It is about declaring your independance as a man and going your own way means you define it for yourself what it should be. There is no collective goal, mgtow is a libertarian philosophy and libertarianism rejects any kind of collectivism (muh society)

We cannot change anything by playing their rigged game, that's what they want us to do. Our only option is to opt out of the treadmill and try to become free by either growing our own food or starting our businesses and if necessary migrate to other countries that are not ruined already this heavily.

Anonymgtow 04/19/15 (Sun) 22:50:47 120b0a No.1341

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>>1329

I don't see how a demographic can protect themselves without banding together to form a tight group in an environment like what is seen in the modern western world, or really any human society at all. Retreating from your society inasmuch as you are capable looks to me like dividing yourself down to the individual so that your enemy can easily conquer you. I don't see how going MGTOW protects you from things like false rape or harassment accusations, or losing your job or getting kicked out of university for being the wrong kind of person.

>>1331

Isn't it a little too soon to be hoping for transhumanism to replace our mortal bodies? I don't think anyone in the current generation is going to last long enough to see that day. In any case, I am not excited about the idea of copying my consciousness only to allow my original one to die off. A copy of me is not actually me. I will still die in the end.

>>1332

I don't see how MGTOW is the solution to the problems you're highlighting. I don't see women being terribly impacted by the withdrawal of individual men from society at large; they're getting the funding for their train wreck lives from government entitlement spending, so they don't miss out on male providers, and as far as sexual selection goes, they're used to ignoring eighty percent of the men they come across anyway. Individual MGTOW get taxed out of whatever income they make anyway, so they are forced to feed this beast no matter what. It looks to me like the MGTOW strategy of going on quiet, individual strike would require an astronomical number of men to do so before women would really start feeling the hurt in a way that they couldn't mistake the cause or simply blame it on men using common shaming tactics as we see now.

>>1338

I also doubt that total boycott is achievable. But isn't that what MGTOW is, on an individual scale?

>>1339

My sentence structure was a bit cluttered. I did not mean to sound like I was expressing concern for the suffering of a society, but rather that individual MGTOW appear to be causing more long term harm to themselves both as individuals and as a movement than they are causing to society by opting out. What I mean to say is this: opting out of society as much as possible, even to the point of refusing to procreate, appears to be barely putting a scratch in the society which throws men under the bus, while simultaneously dooming individual MGTOW to genetic extinction. It looks like more damage is being done to the MGTOW by this strategy than to the society which pushes them to take action to protect themselves.

I am extremely skeptical about artificial wombs for a number of reasons. The first is that I highly doubt we will see affordable artificial womb technology within our lifetimes - we don't even have male birth control products to compare to the options women have. The second is that I doubt the political climate of the western world would allow for artificial womb technology to be deployed in a way which would come at the detriment of women by replacing them. Technology is amoral and will be used in whatever way the wielder sees fit. If that means simply using artificial wombs to eliminate the burden of pregnancy on rich privileged women so that they can completely cut men out of the picture except as sperm donors and tax livestock to fund their households, then I can easily see a feminist-dominated society embracing artificial wombs and crafting the legislation to ensure that men could not legally benefit from the use of artificial wombs.

I think it is overly pessimistic to presume that you need a majority or supermajority in order to achieve results in the realm of political activism. The event horizon for a political group to obtain society-altering power is much lower than that, as demonstrated by the majority of coup de etats and political movements resulting in major changes to laws in hisotry. It doesn't take 51% to effect change.

If your enemies are happy to have you play their rigged game, I should think they would be even happier to see you quit the field and leave them to take the whole of it just as well. I don't think they particularly care how you lose, only that you do.

Anonymgtow 04/20/15 (Mon) 04:09:33 419fab No.1342

>>1341

>Isn't it a little too soon to be hoping for transhumanism to replace our mortal bodies?

sure, I just intend to live a good life, if future generations need to deal with our extinction and replacement so be it. This is the fundamental problem OP with your argument: even if mgtow meant humanities extinction it would still be generations away, so it is really not our problem. Even japan with its population decline and 50% mgtow, won't go exinct this century!

> A copy of me is not actually me. I will still die in the end.

Copying your brain with high fidelity would likely be a destructive process. With today's tech it requires freezing your head in an acrylic block and cutting ultra fine slices off and scanning those slices via a high powered microscope or TEM. Long story short uploading you will require you to die first, and be artificially resurrected, there is no copy paradox because the original is dead, gone.

Cryogenics could address your generation problem assuming future generation will scan you into the machine once the technology becomes available, which is frankly a long shot.

Anonymgtow 04/20/15 (Mon) 05:52:49 120b0a No.1346

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>>1342

When I say extinction, I don't mean of the species. I mean of you, personally, individually. You are the end product of a completely unbroken chain of self-replicating life that quite possibly extends all the way back to abiogenesis as a root. Are you okay with that coming to an end? Are you fine with the termination of your personal bloodline? How?

I am also concerned about the loss of a group of people who care about the rights of men from the political sphere by means of withdrawal from it. It is not as if societies around the world have not suffered massive losses of male life as a result of wars and genocide in the twentieth century alone - the scars of which can barely even be seen today in the populations of the people in which they occurred. If we can lose millions of men to war and move on just fine without them, how will any society be driven to be negatively impacted by thousands of men withdrawing from society while contributing to their economies and paying into their tax systems? It's not my business to tell anyone else what to do, but surely you can understand my dismay at seeing the quiet surrender of the few people who ever had anything to say in opposition to widespread cultural misandry.

I am not concerned about the copy paradox of a copy existing at the same time as its original. I mean to say that the copy literally is not the original, and thus a copy is not a form of defeating the mortality of the original. Whether the original dies in the process of copying or not is irrelevant - the original has still been terminated and replaced with a copy. The copy is not the self. It is not the same consciousness. It is not defeating death in this way.

I am not aware of any cryogenic technology which is being used to preserve the life of a person. Even the idea is merely to delay death by placing the person into a frozen coma. The subject loses all the time during which they were frozen. And again, I am not familiar with any application of this theory in the real world.

Anonymgtow 04/20/15 (Mon) 05:58:58 823b84 No.1347

>>1346

>You are the end product of a completely unbroken chain of self-replicating life that quite possibly extends all the way back to abiogenesis as a root. Are you okay with that coming to an end? Are you fine with the termination of your personal bloodline? How?

Yeah.

The original cell that grew into life as we know it probably wouldn't think too highly of us, either.

Anonymgtow 04/20/15 (Mon) 12:00:23 419fab No.1349

>>1346

>When I say extinction, I don't mean of the species. I mean of you, personally, individually.

You mean like dying? Yeah we are all going to die.

>You are the end product of a completely unbroken chain of self-replicating life that quite possibly extends all the way back to abiogenesis as a root. Are you okay with that coming to an end?

Yes, it very simple: Why does it matter? This is one tiny planet in the middle of perhaps an infinite multiverse. All life here, will eventually die off, the sun will burn out, most certainly the whole human species will likely go extinct, if not in the next centuries to an artificial successor that certainly won't have genetic bloodlines, then in the next thousands of years. The whole universe will likely either collapse on it self and begin a new or heat death… Why the fuck is my bloodline worth shit? There is nothing special about me genetically, there is nothing of value, other then my own happiness. In short my nihilism is stronger then your appeal to bloodlines.

>I am also concerned about the loss of a group of people who care about the rights of men from the political sphere by means of withdrawal from it.

I vote. I can't speak for every mgtow but pretty sure the ones online are still involved in society, how else do they pay for internet connection?

Anonymgtow 04/20/15 (Mon) 12:00:44 419fab No.1350

>>1346

(continued reply)

> If we can lose millions of men to war and move on just fine without them, how will any society be driven to be negatively impacted by thousands of men withdrawing from society while contributing to their economies and paying into their tax systems?

Ask Japan. Fuck ask much of the developed world, dealing with population shrinkage will be one of the great issues of the 21 century.

Will society always relegate men, as long as they are human, probably. I can't change society, but I can change myself, maybe help a handful of others who also seek enlightenment. I sit here under the Bodhi Tree and you may join me if you want, or you can move on.

>I am not concerned about the copy paradox of a copy existing at the same time as its original. I mean to say that the copy literally is not the original, and thus a copy is not a form of defeating the mortality of the original. Whether the original dies in the process of copying or not is irrelevant - the original has still been terminated and replaced with a copy. The copy is not the self. It is not the same consciousness. It is not defeating death in this way.

This is a philosophical debate, but you have already died. You see your body changes out new cells all the time, new neural pathways grow that replace old/broken/dead ones, you may have memories of who you were once, but those memories are plastic and continually decay and morph as new pathways replace old ones. Years later, with enough experiences and learning, you have become a new person, you are not the same consciousness as that person, that person is died.

Death comes in many forms, some of which are inevitable and immutable. The cheats for death are all limited in one way or another. Having children is only an extension of genes, sure we can brainwash children with our own ideals, try to program a bit of our consciousness into them, but don't even get me started on how poorly that works.

Now a copy of your mind, every neuron, every synapse, that thinks it is you, in an immortal form, is certainly a better means of immortality then children. You may argue that it is only a copy, but it better then no copy.

Anonymgtow 04/22/15 (Wed) 00:10:01 3d108f No.1358

>>1346

It's not my bloodline. It's my father's bloodline, and his father's bloodline before him. I am a human being, not a bloodline. When I end, I end. The end of a bloodline means nothing to me. I don't care about archaic concepts like that. The only thing that follows me to the grave is whatever impression I've left on the people around me. Having a kid doesn't give me access to a New Game+, and I don't particularly care about whether my genes get passed down or not. I'm not anyone special.

Anonymgtow 04/22/15 (Wed) 07:50:57 98d784 No.1361

I only regret that the world will end up looking like idiocracy after I am gone.

but don't ever be fooled into thinking you have any control over this. don't ever fool yourself into believing that there is a unicorn out there for you.

Anonymgtow 04/22/15 (Wed) 19:37:04 576a53 No.1363

I don't have a problem with human extinction, as it won't happen until many hundreds of years after I'm dead. But I see one downside. Right now, the Muslim fuckers are breeding like rats and they're taking over the civilized world. This is the only downside I see about falling birthrates among civilized people.

Anonymgtow 04/22/15 (Wed) 22:05:36 741770 No.1364

>>1363

Yeah the fundamentalist will take over and civilization will collapse.

>>1341

You know OP if genetic survival is so important to you, become a sperm donor.

Anonymgtow 04/23/15 (Thu) 21:42:44 a17119 No.1372

>>1363

Look you are a /pol/ack, you believe in collectivism, in society and government.

I am not, I am libertarian and I believe in individualism, freedom and non-intervention. What society wants from me or desires does not interest me unless I can profit financially from it by starting a business.

Calling muslims collectively uncivillized is stupid. The problem is that our western countries attract the black sheep by offering free money for any migrant that wants to come. This way not only the skilled will come but also the slackers who will live of social welfare. This is not a ethnic problem but a political. Socialism motivates people to be lazy.

Anonymgtow 04/23/15 (Thu) 21:48:22 a17119 No.1373

>>1363

also about your birthrates thing. Do you know why europeans and americans are not likely to have children right now? The economy is fucked thanks to 70 years of more and more socialism and government intervention. People here can sense this and they won't have children if the finances are not secured. Fix the economy and there will be more children.

Anonymgtow 04/23/15 (Thu) 23:50:48 c714ec No.1376

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>>1341

>I don't see how a demographic can protect themselves without banding together to form a tight group in an environment like what is seen in the modern western world

you can't see how is not getting into a situations, is protecting yourself, the best way to win a fight is to not get into the fight at all, and you are assuming we are fighting against an opponent like feminism, we are not, we are fighting something that was necessary for the species survival, and thus has been ingrained in both our social development and biology. You can't 100% protect yourself from that, but you can minimize those risks, by not getting into those situations, also "demographic" we are not an organized group, MGTOW is a philosophy.

>Retreating from your society inasmuch as you are capable looks to me like dividing yourself down to the individual so that your enemy can easily conquer you.

Society really won't give a shit unless most of the male population goes MGTOW, and nothing in MGTOW you can't fight against injustices, but most MGTOW know that nothing will ever really change, because males are disposable, so no one really gives a fuck about them, and society revolves around giving women what they want, and to going against that is like swimming against the current, so most MGTOW realize that them should just try and make a life for themselves, pursue their hobbies, etc. and what can they conquer, anyway, we lose if we do something, and they can't force us to do anything.

>I don't see how going MGTOW protects you from things like false rape or harassment accusations, or losing your job or getting kicked out of university for being the wrong kind of person

again MGTOW is a philosophy, and recommends you take steps to protects yourself, and again you can't be 100% on these things, and it also recommends that you have a few back up plans, and some alternatives, just in case.

Anonymgtow 04/24/15 (Fri) 00:16:00 512c9a No.1377

>>1372

>Look you are a /pol/ack

I think you mean YOU are a /pol/ack.

Anonymgtow 04/29/15 (Wed) 21:31:01 b959b3 No.1449

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MGTOW actually woke me up to my repressed sexuality so it's far from giving up. Before MGTOW I was just wounded, now I care about eating healthy, doing calisthenics weekly for those vegan gains, and becoming the best I can be. I've overcome all my addictions (still struggling with nofap but not too much).

I've been part of the in fighting 'cause I'm really emotional.

My personal endgame is the complete healing and restoration of the demiurge. I'm pretty sure throughout galactic history other planets were already blown up, like the asteroid belt or whatever.

I thought many times that MGTOW was stupid, but after studying female behavior all this time it's the only option and actually fits in really well with my spiritual gnostic/pagan beliefs.

I know some of this stuff is for /fringe but I don't want to post there. Honestly I hope money gets fucking abolished, tired of the control.

Not being educated in this stuff growing up seriously hampered my emotional and physical growth, that and being in a smoky environment…

I'm just happy that I know how and hopefully I don't slip up or forget. So basically I don't view it as giving up… well actually I am surrendering… surrendering to who I really am (true sexual expression, power and self love), but sometimes you've got to go through hell to discover it.

Anonymgtow 04/29/15 (Wed) 21:46:17 0a87cf No.1450

The end game is to live your life in peace and quiet on your own terms. Fatherhood as we knew has been totally blown away, and is beyond recovery. Those days are over. Men don't have children since they have no parental rights. All children belong to the mothers.

MGTOW isn't a strike. There are no terms of negotiation that will bring us back to the table. It's over. Women have revealed their true nature; the mask is off, and it's ugly as fuck. Not going there, ever.

So we will sit back, enjoy our hobbies, save our money, protect our DNA, and enjoy life while at the same time enjoying the inevitable decline of civilization.

Anonymgtow 04/30/15 (Thu) 00:58:20 6bc7ed No.1454

>>1450

Very nicely put and I agree. I am just going to enjoy and spend all these moments of my live doing things I enjoy and explore and gain more knowledge about the world.

Anonymgtow 04/30/15 (Thu) 12:08:14 c714ec No.1456

>>1376

fuck me, I suck at writing

Anonymgtow 05/02/15 (Sat) 13:22:32 419fab No.1470

>>1450

No no you see on paper this is not true: men and women have equal parenting rights… on paper… of course the courts decide and a case by case basis and give the children overwhelmingly to the women as well as force the men to pay out to her, but it is all totally fair and legal >:P The only way to get custody, to retrain your money, is if the women is proven to be an abusive crack whore, anything less and the courts generally side with the mother.

"Oh but all you need to do is find the right one" yeah and the probability of that decrease with each generation, the narcissistic, abusive, girl children of today will become the women of tomorrow and the ones that breed will raise their kids to be even more fucked up then themselves: we are in mouse utopia mode now, there is no going back

Anonymgtow 05/02/15 (Sat) 20:39:03 10b5cf No.1471

Yes with 8 billion people, possible extinction is the problem.

Anonymgtow 05/02/15 (Sat) 21:06:41 65523a No.1472

>>1341

Computers increase their performance exponentially. Sure right now we can only simulate 1% of the human brain. Today we have 8,000GB hard drives at the consumer level. 8 years ago the first 1tb hard drive was barely realeased. Go back father to the 90s and you'd be lucky if you had a 20gb hard drive, go back futher to the 60s and the first drives were a mere 205mb.

Right now the top supercomputers run around 300PFLOPs. By around 2020 there will be light based computers that computer in the exascale range, a full order of magnatude higher. Let's say you are runnning a cluster of 500 computers today and you get 300PFLOPs of performance. A *single* exascale computer will perform at around 1,000PFLOPs. When you cluster 500 of them you get 500,000PFLOPs of performance.

Wait another 20-30 years and the next technology will leap us another order of magnatude. Transhumanism is still flawed. Once you upload your brain to a computer you lose all your brain's flaws and thus your humanity.

>>1331

Computers already exceed our intelligence and thousands if not millions of tasks. Try multiplying a few 5 digit numbers billions of times a second 24/7 for a few months.

Anonymgtow 05/02/15 (Sat) 21:10:41 65523a No.1473

>>1372

Uneducated people factually breed more than aducated people.

>I am not (a pollack)

>makes pollack argument

:^)

Anonymgtow 05/02/15 (Sat) 23:27:23 419fab No.1478

>>1472

Yes, but they have yet to do other task as well as humans, giving people the false hope that their will always be things for humans to do.

This is wrong, or rather if materialism is true and we are nothing but a collection of neurons and synapses, then it is only a matter of time before machines can do everything people can do, only better, faster, cheaper. Once that happens society as we know it is fucked: the "work for a living" social structure of most people will become complete and openly obsolete, either everyone is provided for by somekind of welfare system then, or the rich kill of the poor or the poor kills off the rich.

Anonymgtow 05/03/15 (Sun) 01:10:47 efdaad No.1479

Not OP, just heard about MGTOW from a /pol/ thread and I only have a cursory understanding of what it is.

I'd like to ask how different is this place from, say, wizardchan?

Anonymgtow 05/03/15 (Sun) 05:22:05 a8d06b No.1480

>>1479

Wizardchan = no self-improvement.

MGTOW = Learn from your past encounters with women. Recognize mistakes from the past. Learn to avoid long term relationships with women by identifying flaws in your character that got you hooked in the first plays. Once these flaws are identified, either fix them or learn to be aware of when someone is exploiting these flaws to use you. In MGTOW means to learn to lead a happy life without fixating on women, realizing that several other things in life that can make you happy.

Anonymgtow 05/03/15 (Sun) 05:22:46 a8d06b No.1481

>>1480

*hooked in the first place

Anonymgtow 05/03/15 (Sun) 05:28:47 efdaad No.1482

>>1480

So its kinda like PUAs, except a lot more relaxed?

Anonymgtow 05/03/15 (Sun) 07:41:46 3cef30 No.1483

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>>1482

Exactly. Don't get involved with women in the current state of society. There is literally no benefit for a man in western civilization to even deal with women except on the off chance that he may want offspring. Think about it about how much you can get out of your life if you simply stop caring about the half of your gender that only cares about your money or your status in society.

Anonymgtow 05/03/15 (Sun) 13:41:00 8cede2 No.1489

>>1483

>except on the off chance that he may want offspring

or may want to get laid occasionally

Anonymgtow 05/04/15 (Mon) 13:23:13 2d8a48 No.1503

>>1489

Except that it's more trouble than it's worth and masturbation can actually achieve longer and or stronger orgasms/euphoria.

Anonymgtow 05/05/15 (Tue) 18:13:32 b98157 No.1508

>>1503

I think some mgtow like my self became mgtows because we lacked the sex drive to keep playing the game. Semi-asexual perhaps. Dating is simply too much of a hassle unless you really need continuous access to pussy, if your don't need it, why bother? Mgtow is simply not possible for some men because their compulsive need for pussy is too strong and they are willing to become pets and work horses for regular access to pussy. Those men will breed, good for them, for me I seek a different life for myself. Anyone who wants to join us, please do, those that don't, that is fine, your fate is yours to make. If you choose to be free or choose to be a slave, that is your choice.

Anonymgtow 05/06/15 (Wed) 01:40:38 98d784 No.1514

“I’m the last of my guy friends to have never gotten married, and their wives - they don’t want them playing with me. I’m like the escaped slave - I bring news of freedom.” - Bill Maher

Anonymgtow 05/06/15 (Wed) 02:22:59 21e935 No.1516

>>1328

I dont think you are going to ever achieve anything with the MRA movement, but I promise to vote in an MRA friendly way. Why wouldnt I? If we could repeal female suffrage that would be great. I just doubt it will ever happen.

That is what you want right? Our votes added to your own? Im pretty sure every mgtow would vote in an MRA friendly way.

Anonymgtow 05/14/15 (Thu) 11:52:14 40f9a0 No.1564

Surrogates are a thing.

Anonymgtow 05/14/15 (Thu) 12:33:51 450152 No.1566

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>implying we can't convert women into a set auxiliary organs.

>implying we can't merge them into a single brainless mother birthing hive.

>implying we can't be space ants.

Anonymgtow 06/08/15 (Mon) 01:52:49 0f0578 No.2248

>>1328

I don't really care what happens when I die, I'll be dead. The entirety of my race is a pathetic pc mess I want nothing to do with so fuck it, let it burn.

Anonymgtow 06/12/15 (Fri) 08:49:13 7f35ba No.2290

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What if the human race were granted eternal continuance provided it reverted back to hunter-gatherer savagery, abandoning all technology, literacy, philosophy and religion, and returned to telling oral tradition stories around a campfire and living in fear of witches and malevolent spirits? Would it be worth it to give up all that has been strived for in order to obtain genetic immortality?

If you answered "yes" then you need to consider the concept of "being alive" versus "living" harder.

If you answered "no" then you understand why MGTOW operates. Although I'm all but currently resigned to the idea that I'm a genetic deadend, I haven't given up on providing technology and invention to humanity, to reproduce memetically. Oh God what did I just say?

pic related, it's my TRUE FORM

Anonymgtow 06/12/15 (Fri) 10:00:16 e8db27 No.2292

>>1450

Basically this. Women blew it.

Anonymgtow 06/24/15 (Wed) 19:36:48 5bd56a No.2478

MGTOW is basically abandoning a bad system, not so much about trying to fix it.

If you don't like the idea of abandoning the culture and letting it become more male-abusive, my suggestion is to become a massive cunt-tease.

Ideally: Be the most alpha of alphas, and when the women flock and flirt, ask them why they think they're worth your time. Lay down the truth, accuse them of intending every parasitic behavior the law and culture allow them.

They'll have to think they have a chance, you might need to master Venusian arts.

Sadly, countless women might have to spend their lives playing an unwinnable game just so women get the message, the way men have had to play the unwinnable games of marriage, fatherhood, and rape accusations at the hands of the matriarchy.

Anonymgtow 06/25/15 (Thu) 06:48:27 bfdc19 No.2480

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>>2478

MGTOW is basically men going their own way. Whatever the fuck that means to them individually – so long as they're not slave-minded pushover manginas.

Anonymgtow 07/03/15 (Fri) 04:33:06 e1de43 No.2508

We had a good run. Shame we couldn't do the whole Exploring the Stars thing, but what can you do?

Anonymgtow 07/03/15 (Fri) 05:00:17 d4cfce No.2509

>>2508

Leave that to our successors: the machines.

Think about it: talking monkeys in space? They need food, water, air, gravity, habitable temps, fuck all that!

Anonymgtow 07/15/15 (Wed) 19:43:20 6f1acd No.2557

>>1328

The endgame is simple. It's a zero-sum with a MAD clause (Mutually Assured Destruction). We don't play along with society and as such it declines while we excel individually but collectively everything collapses. It is the best possible scenario for the least amount of fallout for us mgtow and most devastating annihilation of western society for the rest.

I may let the enemy take the field as you say, but I left them nothing but Death riding on a Pale horse. This is the future they (feminazi-gynocentricism) wanted and so they shall reap the rewards of their crops.

I have no remorse or regrets. I just want to see it all burn.