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a65e88 No.15

So why are you guys afraid of women?

Im not afraid of women, since I know that sometimes they need to be put back in their place via corrective spanking.

You guys should learn to be alpha and dominate your relationships, it is a great feeling having a woman submit herself to you.

74b0e8 No.16

Hello anon,

most mgtow are not afraid of women but they reject relationships because they see them beeing a bad deal measured by todays laws and society.

Also many countries have already adapted laws that equate long term relationship with marriage. So when your girl doesn't like you she dumps you and sues you for alimony because you were 1 year with her and you are now legally considered her husband and have to care for her.

18b951 No.27

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>>16

>most mgtow are not afraid of women but they reject relationships because they see them beeing a bad deal measured by todays laws and society.


Pretty much this. I'm not afraid of women by any stretch of the imagination. But i've seen a lot of divorces throughout the years in my family, and don't want any part of that. I'm ended relationships because of the expectation of marriage and children within the next five years.

If you feel safe in your relationship by having a woman submit herself to you, then you're in for a pretty sharp surprise when she realises that you have no power over her to control her in any way. By this I mean that if she decides to leave you, and take advantage of your finances, custody of your children, demands outrageous spousal support, then you can't do jack shit but bend over and let BDG take everything you have.

As for me, i'll own my house outright in 8 years while reaping the benefits of my huge STEM salary without anyone but myself to spend it on.

Of course it should be stated, that if things were different and strong family units were encouraged and supported then I might consider it. But these days the writing is on the wall for the old ways. Society has made it clear that it's every man/woman/xir for themselves. Can't blame me for being a realist and doing what I need to in order to take care of myself.

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74b0e8 No.28

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e65b37 No.30

>>15
At present, I do not fear the 3.5bln females that inhabit the earth.

However, I fear things that females like to do, such as cry rape, subvert male spaces, and generally ruin fun. Sandman said it best - they should change their name to the "fun police" as their influence in society is deleterious.

52d55f No.33

>So why are you guys afraid of women?

Well, that has to be one of the stupidest generalizations about MGTOW I've ever heard.

Believe me or not, I don't give a shit, but I've slept with over 30 women, taken 3 virginities, and I've dated more than I can remember.

And yet I still chose MGTOW, for the very simple reason that modern women are not worth chasing after, and also that going your own way can be extremely beneficial to your ability to focus on what YOU need in your life for YOU.

If you think people are doing it because they're beta males, you are more than incorrect in your thought process.

52d55f No.34

>>33
But, something to keep in mind for anyone willing to take my comment seriously and who is unsure about MGTOW, I'm probably somewhere between level 1 and 2 according to this thread: http://www.8chan.co/mgtow/res/17.html

e65b37 No.35

>>34
I used to be there myself, but decided that buying $100 baubles was not worth it if to obtain the $100, I must pay $50 to the state.

2b0477 No.37

>>27
The problem isnt women though, its family courts pitying women and that you choose partners that are unfit for marriage.

So until you start dating women who act like adults you will only be able to have silly, frivilous relationships that do not last very long - like most people do in high school.

But you're ok with that because women are bad news.

74b0e8 No.39

>>30
I think it should be more like:
"I don't fear women, I fear the governments they elect"

e65b37 No.40

>>39
It is fortunate that I write my posts, not you.

e34058 No.45

>>37
>The problem isn't women though
Oh hell yes it is. It fucking is for a fact. I can't go on a rant of 10+ posts about all my personnal experiences and understanding of women, so i'll just link you to the best share I could find that reflect that.

http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

The system is just bending over to women, but women are the cause of all the shit you see today. I went MGTOW not because I fear women, but because I know exactly how they think. And witouth our system pushing them down, you can't expect a stable relationship, ever, in modern society. It's so easy for them to fuck you over, why would they even try to work things out? Not to forget that they can go fuck Jamal down the street if she feel like having some kind of personnal revenge for nothing at all, and the day you discover it she'll have a whole army of harpy femishit bitches to scream
>MUH WYMYN LIBERATION
Fuck. That.

52d55f No.46

>>39
God, this is so horrifyingly true.

And yet you can't talk about women's voting rights without being labeled as a sexist bigot shitlord who clearly must be talking from a perspective of hatred, when in fact it stems from wanting a stable society for my children.

Worst of all there are great infographics floating around that prove that the road we're going down is one of short-term hedonism and long-term detriment, and people still ignore the content and shit on the overall concept.

It's not like we didn't let them vote for thousands of fucking years. How can these people think that they are the first ones who suddenly know what is right?

e34058 No.48

>>45
Also I'd like to add that the west is fucked. Along with pretty much every progressive countries in Yurope. This is what happen when you don't keep the bitches in check. The rat experiment (I can't find it right now) pretty much just prove that shit, because that's what is happening, on a world scale. It was fun while it lasted. The end won't happen during our generation, though we'll go through some shit, that's for sure, but you can be sure as hell I'm not gonna have children. Letting them endure what's to come, knowing what's coming, would just be fucking cruel.

09a035 No.51

>it is a great feeling having a woman submit herself to you

That is, until she regrets it, and blames her submission on your "abuse".

c7c189 No.53

>>15
Why the fuck should I be "Dominant" and "Alpha". I don't want to run a fucking empire, and I didn't ask to be given the chains of command.

e65b37 No.58

>>53
Such a task would be more trouble than it's worth.

2b0477 No.61

>>53
Natural role of the man to be the head of the family is to lead

No one respects a man that is lead around by his nose by others.
>>51
I've never been acused of being abusive, probably because I make a point to treat women good (if they deserve it).

67b022 No.62

>>45
>I pick terrible women to have relationships with
>Somehow, this is society's fault

129b58 No.64

I'm afraid of women, yes. I don't see it as relevant to my life decisions though, even if I was married, I'd still be afraid. It's mostly because Canuckistani women are harder to read. They say one thing, smile, give you that false-kindness and quasi-respect, but in their head, they want to say another thing, they want to laugh, and they want to use you for their own gain. When you call them out on this, they act all sincere, like they actually meant all those things they said, and you can't convince them otherwise. I'm not exactly sure how to describe it, it's an experience that is significantly different than the normal womanly deceit.

e65b37 No.69

>>61
Again, more trouble than it is worth. The free will is mine; deal with it.

c7c189 No.73

>>61
sorry, but no "it's natural" isnt a good enough excuse.

9fd741 No.81

>>62
Basically this
>>69
I dont care what you do, but Im wondering why you chose to be a lonely beta fag
>>73
suit yourself

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518293 No.103

>>15
>put back in their place
>be alpha
>dominate
>I-I'm not a serf, guys, I alpha
>inb4 nawalt

You do realize that she's just letting your ego inflate so you'll keep her around?

Do you not know by now they will say anything just to get let in, into any matter so they can benefit/control it?

And ffs don't tell me pussy is worth having such rot in your life.

She knows she wins as long as society lets her in. She knows she wins as long as you keep her in your life. That's the way women operate.

Women know they lose when they get shut off from society and men's lives. They dread not having access to men.

I've seen countless of so-called "alphas" end up secretly pussy-whipped husbands.

You know it's true unless youre 18, they all get softie and rather than losing the pussy they submit, then they only pretend they're alpha with their friends.

>inb4 pump and dump


they don't pump and dump, fag. 90% they don't, they always end up hitched.

Too easy to get access to a man's resources, just stroke his ego a bit, muh manliness, he lets her in, so few are saved. So many end up spending their lives with women who only make it more miserable.

Alphas are truly the best boyim. Alphas are the ones that have always ensured women safety and privilege because so easily manipulated through their ego.

Alpha goons learn2MGTOW

4d40b2 No.151

This stupid alpha male concept is a myth more than reality. All these males who claim to be alpha get cucked. In the 21st century I haven't heard of a single marriage where the wife doesn't cheat on the husband. The people who spout this alpha beta nonsense whoever they are seem to be living in fantasy land

6f23c3 No.152

>>15
I'm not mgtow because I'm afraid of women. I'm mgtow because I'm not going to get my income fucked by the government and courts. You will. Don't come crying to us.

737ab4 No.170

OP makes the mistake of assuming we are afraid of women. We are not. Womanhood has been reduced to a farce these days that they no longer are something desirable. The only purpose a woman of today serves is sex. They are no good as wives. Being an MGTOW is a simple matter of recognizing this reality

a2d497 No.191

>put back in their place via corrective spanking.

Yeah right. Right after you 'put them in their place' , they will haul you into court for domestic abuse. You will lose your kids, your home and most of the wealth you acquired up until that point. In 90% of such cases you will end up in jail as well.

So, you can be alpha as fuck in jail while Bubba is drilling your ass

3cf42b No.218

>>15
>>191
This. Although I think OP is being facetious and/or trolling us to a certain extent

In a civilized world violence against women is condemned and rightly so. Any kind of 'spanking' other than in the context of a consensual sex fetish would be recognized as domestic violence. Also, if the women is not accepting the 'spanking' voluntarily, this situation invariably leads to more severe violence. If you are the guy who tries to get his way in a marriage by using the threat of physical force, then you are an asshole as well and part of the problem

In all sane marriages(the few marriages these days that work well and are something to be admired), the marriage is usually a partnership. Whenever there is disagreement, the Husband gets to make the decision in certain matters(for example buying a car) and the wife gets final word in certain matters(for example deciding the furniture, drapes etc). In all matters the advice of the other is to be considered. In some matters for the family to be happy, both partners have to have a say. This is the template for all good marriages.

Twisting this template into a perversion where one of the two genders, husband or wife begins to dominate the marriage is what has caused the downfall of the institution today. Feminists who used to fight for real oppression of women have far exceeded their brief by completely tilting the laws in favor of the woman and thus destabilizing the institution of marriage.

MGTOWs do not advocate addressing this imbalance with violence against women. As an MGTOW, what I see is that the laws have become so cancerous that no immediate solution to the problem is in sight. Therefore, I have decided to stay away from long term relationships and am content with short term relationships.

4fc267 No.238

I've been burned too many times, cheated on, used, my last girl friend tried to get pregnant against my personal wishes, I've enter my thirties and decided I'm done with the game, completely, finito. I have friends and family who have been through nasty divorces, my father's womanizing and abuse by said women of him, all of this eventually gave me the epiphany I don't need a women in my life.

cfcb1b No.286

>>27
>not burning down your house, spending all your assets and destroying all your possessions.

48748c No.299

>>238

same decision I arrived @ 10 yrs ago when I was your age

it gets much easier as you get older

I honestly don't even think about them anymore

more interested in and passionate about my interests

a8829c No.301

You can take your dick out and wave it around all you want calling yourself Alpha, Get a 3DPD preggo, or have one divorce you and then find out who owns who. It's not about being afraid of women, it's about risk assessment.

da3f6c No.306

>>15
Something tells me you've never hit a woman before. Try it sometime hot shot, especially if you live in the states.

I slapped my ex fiancee in the face when I found out she was stealing money from me and giving it to a guy she was fucking.

I had a cop with his knee on my throat in my own apartment, because my ex told him I had a gun in the house (which I do, a legal handgun for home protection).

I fear heights and grizzly bears. I don't fear something that bleeds every month and is incapable of logical thought.

382273 No.311

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>>15
We are not afraid of the enemy, it is afraid of us. For we are the independent, from women, and powerful that will not fall down to OPs bullshitl

55c75a No.313

It's not being scared of women

it's knowing that it's not worth it in time or risk

long term marriage/relationships are like playing russian roulette with only 2 chambers empty

67cb62 No.329

Damn it guys, sage.

Not taking the bait OP, just trying to remind some bros to slide this.

e6a88d No.341

>>16
>many countries have already adapted laws that equate long term relationship with marriage.

I was in jail recently, and there were a surprising number of men who had arguments or scuffles with women and were in "family court". Even though these women were complete strangers the women (or the cops who led them via question) reported the incident as domestic violence, this is because it's much easier to railroad you through the exceedingly corrupt family court system.

One guy got his phone stolen, he chased down and snatched the phone back from the girl. The cops arrived after someone called the cops on him, they verified the phone belonged to him and took him to jail charged with family violence (girl was a stranger).

Additionally, if you are arrested for family violence against a woman, and the woman tells the cop she wants to drop the charges against you, then the Federal Government picks up the case.


This is to inflate the conviction numbers of the "tough on crime" District Attorneys.

I live in Texas, arguably one of the least feminist infested places, and this shit is bad.

There is no way in hell I will be around women without everything being on video camera. I love women, and can't get enough of fucking them, but the laws are so dangerous it's just not worth risking being around women for any length of time.

Sorry, I'm not scared of women. I have a life and I don't want to have it fucked up even more by risking some random bitch using the justice system against me, again.

Most MGTOW I know have been with women, some are quite popular with the ladies, others have been married. It's not that we're scared of them, we're scared of the gun that this gynocentric society has aimed at our heads. Come back once you've played with the fire, anon. If you've survived more than a few rounds of Russian Roulette with 4 rounds loaded I'll be amazed and congratulate you on your fortuitous luck.

Here, have a link that demonstrates why everyone should be alarmed (if they actually cared about equality, or men in general):
http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/rape-laws-no-due-process

a848a6 No.347

>>28
Being NEET isn't 'nobility'.

9f3146 No.356

Western womyn have been thoroughly and utterly corrupted by the Jews. They're too far gone. They're beyond redemption. It's like a limb with gangrene. It must be cut off.

9f3146 No.357

>>45
Womyn should not be involved in politics at all. It's all a consequence of Jewish meddling.

8db4cf No.363

Because they're liars? Because they cheat on you, then divorce you and take half your shit? Some of us have made it in life and don't want to risk that for a piece of trim.

6a298b No.571

>>48
the experiment was known as "The Beautiful Ones"

7e7d2a No.573

>why are you afraid of women?
Shaming tactics yet again.

2d9e7b No.579

>>15
I have no cause to fear them because I do not bother with them. In my present circumstance, they don't have an "in".

da397f No.587

>Im not afraid of women, since I know that sometimes they need to be put back in their place via corrective spanking.

Obeying the rules of nature is a criminal offense. Enjoy getting raped in prison, you ordinary heterosexual man.

343b3b No.657

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>>15
>So why are you guys afraid of women?

No man is afraid of women.

90d2c8 No.667

I'm not afraid I just don't need them. I got my own shit to deal with and I would rather be retired rich and rich in spirit then poor and poor in spirit

0cc1ef No.676

>>15
I am no more afraid of women than I am of companies whose stocks I would not buy.

531db4 No.1380

>>306

I hit my mom. I just snapped and whaled on her as she hit me. I feel soooo good :D


7b663d No.1389

why are women afraid of being raped?


13bffb No.1586

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>>1389

They project that everyone wants inside their meat pocket because they can't remove their heads from it.


e8764d No.1587

>>1389

>>1586

Women fear having sex taken from them without suitable payment. Think about it. The difference between a boyfriend and a rapist is that one pays them for sex and the other just takes it.


49ef9d No.1589

I'm all for friends with benefits. Anything beyond that is futile.


2b5743 No.1598

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This might be a factor.


ac1206 No.1611

>>62

>muh terrible wimminz

>not all like dat

Post divorce 90% of women claim there's no benefit for the father having contact with his kids. 90%. Have fun with that.


cfcb1b No.2512

>>15

It's an up hill battle, something I don't have the time or money for.


726d60 No.2514

>afraid of women

being aware of the dangers of a snake does not mean you're afraid of it.

theres no benefit to letting a women into your life anymore.




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