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351daf No.154

Sup brotherhood.

Is the concept "Not all women are like that" a myth? or is it simply their accessibility to do that? Are there factors in them being reared that change them from being complete selfish assholes?

I get that perhaps there are changes that make the EXTREME stories less likely such as bipolar disorder.

But if you are well off and wealthy, are you almost guaranteed to get fucked because of class warfare provides little empathy for non-mgtow husbands who foolishly got married and the wife doesn't feel the need to provide empathy to the poor sap?

Consider:

Steve: Annual income of 25,000. Average guy. Average parent. Good looking but not presentable or dressed like alpha. Had 1 kid with Julie.

Julie: Normal female character. No unique or troubling personality disorders. Very pleasant to most people in general. Decides to divorce Steve. Doesn't see the need to take such a low income sap to the cleaners because there is little to clean out. Would say to other men that "NAWALT" and would use herself as an example.

Same people new scenario:

Steve: Just won the lottery just before marrying Julie. They get married have same single child. Same character, but now can afford to be presentable with cars, nice home, and clean up his looks to look more alpha.

Julie: Sees Steve regularly as alpha male presentable and is accustomed to the assets he has and provides for her. She also has same personality traits as before. BUT Now when contemplating divorce, doesn't feel that Steve is in need of his money as he is a lottery winner.

Will the same person take Steve to the cleaners and no longer be considered "NAWALT". Is the very fact of female "spouses" having their man have a good income turn women predatory?

Let me hear your thoughts.

331a7c No.158

In my oppinion the NAWALT is a myth. Even the "weird" ones who are totally not mainstream will some day screw you just because they can and the law motivates them to do it.

97bc05 No.159

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IMHO the woman would take the guy to the cleaners even if he had a $25,000 pay.

Even small money is better than no money.

On a different note, the worst case of the NAWALT myth is when men think that women from some region - Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, etc. - are somehow different and NAWALT. I'm from Eastern Europe and I'm telling you that women are the same. It's just that less wealth and less technology makes them think twice. But in the capitol or bigger cities, they're virtually indistinguishable from Western women.

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fb24e0 No.174

I'll put it this way.

It would be intellectually dishonest and to a certain extent morally repugnant to suggest that there are no good women at all out there.

However, MGTOW is not based on the principle that good women do not exist, at least according to me. It is based on the practical reality of gender relations at this point in time.

Even if a good woman did exists
1. They are very hard to find
2. You will get suckered into life with an evil woman in your chase for this elusive angel. The nature of this pursuit is based on optimism and emotion. The mind wants to believe and this state it is easy to get suckered
3. Even if you did find this elusive angel, and you end up getting married, she has very little incentive to behave in a decent manner with you. She has no incentive to remain a good wife. The laws increasingly these days provide every incentive to fuck you over and take your money

So, while I wouldn't describe NAWALTs as a myth, you shouldn't put too much stock in the concept because of the sheer impracticality of it

fe18fb No.264

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good women are good because they can't afford to be bad women.

d593ac No.271

Unicorns are a myth, but there is probably a horse with some sort of horn out there.

b5ece5 No.346

>>174
>the law provides it
>women will then do it

That is some retarded logic.

I get that you MGTOW niggers think every broad is out to get you, so why not check out, but this shit is like /pol/ minus the jews, plus girls.

>evil woman

>elusive angel

You're a walking case of anecdotal "feels>reals" bullshit; you've decided to become the radfem sjw you despise.

6029ba No.369

Two things about this:

First, I can count on one hand the number of women I've known who genuinely care about men, and who I could see saying "women shouldn't be able to anonymously accuse men of rape" or something similarly sensible. All of them are menopausal and mothers of sons. All of them. Until their connection to female sexuality is severed by age and their connection to men created by family, women simply don't care about men.

Second, it wouldn't matter if every woman was an angel in today's world, because marriage, cohabitation, sex, and even a man's children are political weapons against him. A man can say "my wife would never use the loaded gun the state has given to her," AND BE RIGHT, and still be a hostage. Just because you never get whipped doesn't mean you're not a slave, and no man with an ounce of self-respect should see slavery as an option.

8278b5 No.370

>>346
>>/fem/

1d49bc No.605

>>154
They are.

Good women are still leeches. Women must be leeches.

Unless you consider a leech good there can be no NAWALTs.

If you consider a leech good then a woman who only leeches in tiny subtle ways (staying in a marriagee) then sure.

However, clearly there can be no good women.

Ergo, no NAWALTs.

I thought I found one. Religious (Cathlolic) virgin. She acted nice for the first two conversations and threw her number at me without asking.

By the third conversation she was trying to control how I speak and what I do. I dropped her after that outright and she still tried to be my friend so I had to tell her again to fuck off.

7fe7d3 No.606

>>158

What this nigga said. EVERY "nawalt" women have always defaulted to all of the negative traits women possess. Every last one of them.

05f266 No.609

I made my first venture to /fem/ today.

All prejudices confirmed.

d84758 No.619

The laws of probability say: yes, not all women are like that.

They also say: no, it isn't worth risking finding out.

444520 No.621

>>619
Well said.

5dfd7a No.623

>>159
Definitely! No woman can love - no matter where she is in the world, or what religion, or what society, or what race.

All are.

But also all men are vulnerable to women's narcotic. All men are like that too.

AWALT, but AMALT as well.

5dfd7a No.626

>>619
But you see, even "not like that" isn't good enough. A dead mouse is "not like that," but hardly worthwhile, so your odds are even worse! You first must find your NAWALT, and then you must find something decent amongst the oddities. And all NAWALT are brain dead - do you want a carcass?

5dfd7a No.627

>>174
The troll who replied to you was incoherent and so incompetently so that there is no real way to address it, so instead I'll offer support and apologize for such inadequate reasoning on his/her part.

4e6fff No.632

Does every dog have a tail?

Of course they exist just don't expect to ever find one.

42d0b7 No.633

>>632
>of course
And how would that be? Do we also say that crocodiles that play in symphony orchestras also exist?

02b929 No.634

>>154
Not all women are like that. Not all men are like that. Point is, not enough women are like that.

444520 No.635

>>154
According to the laws of statistics, yes, "not all women are like that".

However, according to the laws of risk mitigation, I am not going to find out the hard way which are and which aren't.

42d0b7 No.637

>>635
Utter nonsense. There is no "law" that says all possible things must exist!

Women are inevitably AWALT in the same way that lead balls dropped on earth fall down. There are no exceptions to this, and there are no exceptions re: women.

444520 No.638

>>637
Go learn math.

9ba34d No.1637

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I'll always believe in unicorns. Eventually everyone has to encounter their shadow.

Maybe it's because it feels like I'm searching for myself. I am happy on my own, and in this time really there is so much abundance…that there isn't anything more important to me that living correctly, living smart and healthy.

I actually do believe in the gnostic goddess of wisdom, Sophia. And for me she is THE NAWALT. This has to do with the Earth too, being a conscious being, who is also female in nature. That's why women are actually the more "powerful sex" because their domain is the lower body. I think there's are 3 main centers to humans, body (hell/material), mind (emotions/intelligence) and spirit (heart, center). The body is female in nature while the mind is male… hence why women have a wider bottom part (which is what I'm most attracted too) and males have the larger upper body. And both being in balance is ultimate, as "the intelligence of the heart" as Bill Hicks would say. Which I would go deeper and say it's "FEELING" which is something that guys can do these days, while women simply cannot.

I think, women have been manipulated by the state and religion (demiurge/archons) to completely suppress their sexuality as Vilar says in her book, to remain asexual and to "sell" themselves to the highest bidder (unless alpha thug reptilian low inhib guy shows up). Which is a completed and utter destruction of their POWER which IS their sexuality, yet it's not connected to the goddess (how many of them eat good foods from the Earth, keep in shape and have knowledge of how their cycles go with the moon?) Not many, instead, they settle for the state, with fucking mind control television, crappy fucking music, hive mind meme's and the complete lack of engaging their mind and spirit. They settle for the reptilian/body realm and we get this landscape. AND THEY AREN'T EVEN GOOD AT SEX. Because they;ve been repressed, as is our whole society for the most part.

"To deny our own impulses, is to deny the very thing that makes us human"

So it really is mind control. All women CAN BE unicorns, but they have fallen.

I think some metal chick singers are NAWALTS, but I'm guessing less than 10% of the human population is "awake" so that leaves 1-5% of women potentially NAWALTS… I hope there's an awakening happening, but ever since going my own way, I'm more focused on being the best I can be.

CONT.


9ba34d No.1638

>>1637

The levels of stupidity that is now the western women is so bad it literally hurts my heart. It's SO bad. Like GOD DAMN BE FREE ALREADY WOMEN. They keep putting a price on their own pussy which is enslaving themselves. God how stupid. Once they learn to give FREE SEX and chase men as they knew when they were younger, things might change.

Man is supposed to lead. Man is Sun and Woman is Moon. In dance man is always leading.

"It takes courage to lead, but it takes as much courage to follow."

Now if I can stop being stupid myself and stop approaching, and lusting after the flesh, I should be okay. I just want to destroy the current "order" and replace it with what is cosmically natural. And the best way for me, is no drugs, no porn (this is tough) -including pictures >.< ,no hanging out with people who aren't with my program, and constant self improvement - proper diet and exercise.

It's really simply when it comes down to it. The only way to change the landscape is to change myself. Sometimes I wish it wasn't so hard… lol

TLDR I want to believe.


5d2eab No.1639

You need to get your head around what 'not all women are like that means'. What does it mean? It means that not all women are golddigging whores; sociopathic cunts who will use the courts to rob you of your assets and children and manipulate you into giving them even more or threatening you with extortion if you don't comply to their demand: This is what women whore are 'like that' are like.

No imagine a woman who is 'not like that'… D you think she (and other women like her) exist in a vacuum? She doesn't. This perfect woman knows very damn well how evil and nasty the majority of women are.

Now enter YOU. What chance do you have with a woman who is 'not like that' who knows damn well she's not like the other cunts and is the special snowflake men desire; the type of woman a man can actually love and have a family with and who will die in her arms… She knows this, she knows her added competitive value, and she will in no way settle for YOU (unless you are a self made multi millionaire who still has his balls and for some strange reason wants to contract with the state to secure exclusive use of her womb). And if you are this man and you agree to this deal, you really don't have your balls and she knows this and will eventually fuck you over for everything you have in the world.


ec0870 No.1640

>>154

There is no such thing as a good woman. Even if she doesn't rape you in divorce court of otherwise she is still biologically a parasite.

A good woman is a woman who leeches just enough off you to live but she is still a leech and not your equal.

Ergo, AWALT. From experience, even if she seems like a NAWALT two conversations later and she turns into AWALT.

It's that quick of a transitions.


ac4a3c No.1641

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

as far as women are concerned, you are a rapist simply for being born male.

we didn't draw first blood.


ebc16a No.1661

>>633

>musical crocs

Lord Xenu's personal marching band stationed at Andromeda 2.


28d3f5 No.1662

All women have the same instincts so AWALT in that regard. Self-discipline is really the difference, but finding a woman who has it is going to be difficult as you are going to have to maneuver you're way through the toxic ones (majority) it's a lot of time and effort. Much more productive things can be done.


ac4a3c No.1663

most especially; and I'm surprised no one has said this: the vast majority of that tiny minority of mythical nawalts are most likely already taken.

so then what option do you have? convince her to cheat, or branch swing from her current SO to you? then she wasn't a nawalt to begin with, was she?

the 80-20 rule is in full effect. all women only find the top 20% of men attractive. the other 80% of us are expected to wait until their fertility ends before we can have them. do you really accept that? I sure as fuck don't.




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