/mgtow/ - Men Going Their Own Way

>>2306

>How do I stop wanting to be loved by a woman?

Nice try OP. Wanna see yourself in a mirror? I'll give you one.

You want to be loved. I want to be loved as well. We ALL want to be loved. Mother Nature bitch made us this way, in order to help us survive. It's natural for humans.

>To be sexually validated by a woman?

Bullshit squared here. You're afraid. Perhaps even ashamed. Do you look ugly? Or your body sucks? DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER SHIT. Shame is your internal validation. If a girl doesn't like you for what you look like, that's her problem. That can't hurt you in any way, you're the one who's in control of your thoughts and your head. Make it clear to yourself what you fucking want and leave the garbage out.

>How do I stop beating myself up for being a virgin at 24 while literally everyone I know is not?

You take care of yourself. You start working out /fit/ ; you take care of the way you look /fa/ ; and you take care of the way you behave. Not for fems, not for your parents, not for anyone else, BUT FOR YOURSELF. You won't believe how powerful you'll become. Instead of feeling like worthless shit, you'll be made of iron. And people WILL notice. And fems will notice.

And you'll get laid. Because you need to know how it feels, what it does with a man to be with a woman. And you'll like it.

After that, your road toward MGTOW is open (if you want to), but right now, you're just a coward. That's not an insult, but a fact. We are all afraid of many things, too. But some of us are even more afraid of what would happen if we didn't go to beat that fear. So we do face it. And it seems scary, sure. And sometimes it hurts. But we love it. Because it makes you feel alive. Made of iron. Invincible.

>>2331

> I don't know how I did it

even buddha was married and had a kid

he was very fond of his kid actually

>>2333

He was married and had a kid before becoming Buddha, afterwards he was pretty aloof.

>>2336

ya, but he went back to his family afterwards, from time to time, and taught his kid his secrets

>>2338

He taught lots of people (not much of a secret). His son asked for inheritance and buddha reply was basically "I've got nothing, but I can give you enlightenment" which was something he gave lots of people.

Anyways I don't think talking about a 2500 year old dead guy is what this thread is about.

Been thinking about the OPs problem:

First save up some money, go to vagas or amsterdam, buy your self a $500 call girl for the night and get that virginity out of the way. 99% of women are either not as hot or will (worse) disappoint you in bed compared to her.

Next relies that love is not real, you can never know someone else's mind, you can never know if they truly love you, and generally you will find out that they don't. You know who will love you: a dog. True you can't fuck them and they don't live very long but their more loyal and will love you more then any bitch will.

Best bet is to start dating OP. Go look for a girl.that matches your personality and see how it goes. You don't have to marry her lol.

I don't recommend escorts because in your mind you'll still be a virgin and feel like you're missing out on real sex and love

>>2359

>real sex and love

Only as real as you think it is.

>>2359

Yeah great advice there asshole. Next you will be telling a paralyzed man to walk.

First thing the op needs is confidence when trying to get women to actually dig him, and 1000% sure he is not going to have that if he is a 24 year old virgin.

Lots of virgins loss their virginity to whores, no shame in it. In some circles your father buys you a ride. Teaches a man that a vagina is nothing but a vagina, not some mystical holly place of infinite pleasure.

>>2374

confidence means not feeling insecure about being a virgin.

>Next you will be telling a paralyzed man to walk.

This is self-induced paralysis, basically it's all in his head. So ya, telling them to walk is what they need to hear

>>2375

>confidence means not feeling insecure about being a virgin.

Precisely what a whore is for.

>This is self-induced paralysis

Being ugly is not self-induced, being on the autism spectrum is not self-induced, there are many things one can do to make themselves more attractive, but strip off the cloths, the money, the weight lifting and the coaching and the base state of attractiveness can't be changed… well I guess you could try with plastic surgery, but heck they are starting to try to re-attached spinal cores now too. But that is not telling one to walk that is surgically making one capable of walking, or sort of hobbling I guess.

The better question is: does one need to walk? Paralyzed people on average are just as happy as millionaires. Walking does not bring happiness, neither does women.

You could always just cope with drugs, alcohol and video games for years never feeling any emotions or past traumas. It actually worked for me and sometimes I wish life was as simple as grinding for new shinnies in MMOs.

Otherwise.. there is only one other choice..facing the truth.. which is hell.

reddit.com/r/NoFap

>>2403

Or you can travel the world, join a foundation, community organizations, sports clubs, etc, etc, honestly if all in life you can think of is either women or drugs, video games and fapping, you need to opening your eyes!

>>2405

It's hard to want to contribute to society when I don't have a girlfriend. I'm sober now from all of those except the women part… I just want to be free.

>>2417

>>2417

>It's hard to want to contribute to society when I don't have a girlfriend.

why? what? That does not even make sense!

Let me get this straight, if pussy is not involved you don't want to get involved?

by all means, OP. abandon logic and reason. step into that meat grinder.

may your chains rest lightly against you, and history forget that you were our countrymen.

>>2426

What that suppose mean? mgtow is about freedom, perhaps you need state the first part of that quote, not the last.

>How do I stop wanting to be loved by a woman? To be sexually validated by a woman?

I don't know if you can. This is easier for some than others. What you can do is to stop putting so much importance on it, do this and you will minimize the issue. Often these sort of problems are only big because we obsess over them. A very common trap with feelings, they are big because we think they are big and put so much energy into them. Its a vicious circle.

>How do I stop beating myself up for being a virgin at 24 while literally everyone I know is not?

See this is purely a choice. This right here, I guarantee you, is a habit you can break. To do so you need to get rid of the tracks in your mind that keep saying dumb shit like "I am horrible for not getting laid" and "I am accomplishing something or somehow making up for my weakness by hating myself for it."

To break this will take time. The longer you've had the habit of hating yourself for this the longer it'll take to dig yourself out of it. Do this and I guarantee you the first problem, wanting to be loved by women, will become less. It might not completely eliminate your need for women, but it will make it a hell of a lot better.

>>2306

>virgin at 24

What are you doing here? Go back to /r9k

Your not going your own way, they threw you the fuck out.

>>2453

I partially agree with you, not because he is a virgin but because he beats himself up for being one.

r9k also puts far too much importance on it, in their own way. This also isn't /fem/ or /girltalk/.

It doesn't matter if they threw him out because he could/couldn't get laid, offended a woman or whatever the fuck. Women's approval isn't good or bad to MGTOW, it is irrelevant. Caring what women think of men lets women control the identity of men and manhood. MGTOW throw that away to control their own identity.

>>2306

OP the only way to get over women is to see them as the manipulating whores they already are. Go to women only websites and read what they really think in regards to the sorts of things men cherish (honor, loyalty, hobbies, etc.) Once you see just how terrible they really are, you will treat them as what they have allowed themselves to become: Walking, talking, disposable vaginas.

You've gotta realize that the ideal woman is just a fantasy.

It's like wanting to stop wanting to live in the world of Pokemon, or to have superpowers, or just winning the lottery.

That's kinda how women are. You pick one at random and you have a one in ten million chance of winning the lottery.

You want to be loved and validated by a woman because that's how your primal brain functions. You have to understand that those are your base instincts, and then you have to move past them, understanding that the way the world is right now doesn't facilitate it.

>>2479

Excellent point. Stop chasing a dream, the "soulmate" ideal is a lie, there is no soulmate out there or rather your chances of finding one is like winning the lottary. You can waste incredible amounts of money and time and love trying to find her, and most likely get nothing but alimony payments, a lost home, and children that you can never see that think your a deadbeat because mom tells them you are. Or you can just not gamble: there are better more reliable ways to finding life fulfilment.