/mgtow/ - Men Going Their Own Way

seems like a really bad idea.

never live with a women.

ask yourself, is the benefit worth the risk?

theres no incentive for her to play nice or get to get along. its all on you. and if you don't play by her rules, she can fuck you over for the rest of your life.

I don't recommend it. Have you heard of common law marriage? It means that if you live with a woman for a certain period of time, you are considered married. You can suffer the same family court abuse as married couples.

>>2540

Even if I have witnesses to say that we weren't a couple and that she was a lesbian etc.?

Many mgtows blame women, their former hetersexual lovers and project out to all hetersexual women and all women in general. The problem is more fundamental: if you NEED emotional attachment with another person, and NEED it more then they, then they will invariable start to use and abuse you.

In general men NEED women more then women need men, emotionally. Heterosexual men almost always want sex and sexual attachment with women more then heterosexual women want sex, and thus the women will use the need as a whip, to enslave you. But replace sex with X or what ever and women and men with any person and the result is the same. That person could be male, female and LGBTQWERTYZ42*IGU or what ever the fuck, if you need them emotionally your setting yourself up to be used.

I had a gay male roommate once, we got along very well, because we kept out of each others way and were self-reliant. If your lesbian roommate is only needed to pay their half of the bill and can stay out of your way, and you hers, you have the makings of a great roommating.

>>2549

agree

>if you NEED emotional attachment with another person, and NEED it more then they, then they will invariable start to use and abuse you.

TYPICAL FEMALE PSYCHO "LOGIC"

>>2549

>>2551

Yeah, I'm a man, and not a reddit user.

Sure I agree totally that society is gynocentric and that women generally are narcissistic entitled bitches, our society gives them that power.

But I've been fuck over by enough men to also know that you can't trust anyone, regardless if they don't have a vagina and all the social power that comes with it. A women is simply a man who has socially and hormonally been made devoid of responsibility or reason to give a fuck about anyone other then themselves. Give a man the same "rights" and they will fuck you over like any women. If you don't know that yet, well its only a matter of time before you get fucked over by another man.

Become self-reliant, self-sufficient, if you don't need others, let alone don't need vagina, then they can't use you, can't harm you. Sure it not right or fair that women have a gynocentric advantage, but you can negate that advantaged by simply being apathetic to them, leaving them, ignoring them. Without your attention they have no power over you, but giving them your hate and disdain (instead of affection and servitude like a good little beta) is still giving them attention, in fact its giving them even more to beat you with.

>>2541

I wouldn't do it because the court may decide to ignore your male friends.

>>2549

>most people are pathological liars who act almost exclusively on their selfish emotions

there, fix'd

>>2561

>fix'd

>fix'd

>as opposed to fixed

femanon shill detected.

>>2563

Yeah sure, but your not going to trust another man to suck your dick, simply because he is less likely than a women to bite it off?

The problem here is that we men are willing to roll over to women in ways we never would for other men (unless you are homosexual or bi) exposing our sensitive parts, exposing our need for affection and love. Are women more likely to abuse us or is it simply we are more likely to give them the chance? I would think both is most likely, yet the solution is the same regardless if it is women's fault or men's or both: don't give ANYONE the chance.

Now assuming you are heterosexual I will guess you are already not giving men the chance simply as a matter of your nature, but with some MGTOW self-control you won't be giving women the chance either.

Hey OP. I've been doing shared living for the past 5 years and have lived with a wide variety of people. In my personal experience, lesbians are terrible to live with. But that's a very broad brush stroke from the experience of two terrible roommates. More important questions: is it just you and this woman? Have either of you done shared living before? Do you guys just resolve your differences by dropping the subject?

>>2602

Hey thanks for the insight.

>is it just you and this woman?

Initially it will be just me and her for about a month then we will look for a 3rd tenant.

>Have either of you done shared living before?

I have with plenty of different types of people (just no lesbians yet), and she claims to have flatted with friends.

>Do you guys just resolve your differences by dropping the subject?

She is pretty argumentative, and seems really insecure over trivial shit; like she simply cannot be wrong about anything, and will try to argue it until either I give in for peace, she lies about her initial claim, flat out denies things that she has previously said, or the subject is dropped.

All in all though it's never been anything serious or overly awkward, as I'm pretty good at keeping things civil and steering things in a more peaceful direction. She's good with money and setting fair rules so that's a major plus imo. tbh the main thing I'm concerned about is if she turns out to be a complete fruitloop and can't handle another tenant, frames me for rape or something else of that nature.

>>2603

>She is pretty argumentative, and seems really insecure over trivial shit; like she simply cannot be wrong about anything, and will try to argue it until either I give in for peace, she lies about her initial claim, flat out denies things that she has previously said, or the subject is dropped.

GET OUT! RUN!! RUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN!!!

>>2603

My phone crapped out so I couldn't respond until I got home to my computer.

If the two of you have already lived in shared living situations then I'm sure that you'd both be able to manage the flux of living with each other and work out some sort of consistent living. However, you're signing onto a full year lease. That makes your current plan a significant gamble. What happens if you discover that she complains at the slightest noise? What happens if she's an egregious mess in the kitchen? Basically, what happens if the roommate chemistry doesn't mesh with your current friend chemistry?

A third tenant is helpful, more people in the mix creates the need for more balance amongst everyone. But that'll be a month later, and having done this for 5 years it's not a guaranteed thing (unless in your case, it is, and there's another person the two of you know that'll be needing a place a month from now). Me and my house recently scoured through ads for someone that would fill out the space, and the best person for the room after two weeks was someone that it turns out had a meth problem and a boyfriend that liked to steal money. New roommates are always a flux thing, and they can and will move out if the chemistry isn't right, leading to potentially a year of agonized hunting if you get a consistent string of fickle roommate replacements. The longest stretch of instability I went through was 4 months, but that's with 5 units so I guess having potentially more roommates creates more flux.

Her being argumentative and insecure is a huge red flag. Now it's possible that she's been largely argumentative and insecure with you because you guys argue about gender politics. That subject gets everyone's backs up, even when they're all "I'm kind of a live and let live type of person" they'll have some hard-line position on gender politics and won't back down. If she's refused to admit being wrong on something trivial though, then that indicates she'll be a petty pain in the ass when living with her. And if issues relating to communal space cannot be resolved to everyone's satisfaction, animosity will grow. And you would have a YEAR with this person.

Some caveats: It's possible that things could work out well with this girl and that everything would be hunky dory. Before she went batshit, my tumblr feminist ex-roommate was fun to be around and even made a pass at me once. It could be the start of a beautiful friendship. Of all the roommates that have gone through this one particular house (19), I'd say that I'm on great terms with five, horrible terms with five, and neutral with the remaining nine.