6ac0c7 No.63
That feel when never had a gf before and am a virgin. But ive read so much bad things about them and their true nature i dont want anything to do with them.
But my feels and dick tell me otherwise. I keep feeling that feel of no gf. How do i get passed this? Meditation?
Please respond.
cfca18 No.67
Well anon, you are programmed to be like this by nature so it basically means overcoming your human nature. I can't help you with this one.
8434e1 No.75
Well anon, there is an easy solution.
Date women. That's it. All you need to do.
Familiarize yourself with what mgtow believe, then familiarize yourself with the other side of the coin. Then go out and experience the world of dating, women, and sex for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
bae641 No.89
I haven't either, for me having a waifu completely replaces the need for a gf. I have absolutely no desire for female attention.
011d9a No.93
Can you even consider yourself MGTOW if you haven't had opportunity to date and fuck women?
Seems like you're not a man going his own way as much as a Man Going The Way That Was Forced Upon Him.
I'm surprised you're troubled by those feels, though, OP.
I'm in the same boat as you and have not felt them in a long time.
998d4d No.94
Going your own way doesn't mean you have to be celibate. If you want, go out, meet women and get laid, just remember what you've learned about female nature and careful not to fall into any traps.
38e2e5 No.95
>>63op, you are what is known as incell. you've not fucked a woman and you never will.
7eb771 No.104
>>75This, though I have a bad feeling about recommending it. OP could be in for possibly years of hell if a scout cunt snags him.
>I'm not like the others, anon, keep me aroundOP you could buy a hooker?
c7d9fc No.140
>>63A lot depends on your economic situation.
If you are free to travel and spend money, you can go to another country and observe women with different attitudes.
If you don't have the cash
b89507 No.144
Introspection works well in the long run. Examine your intents, your drives, your motivations, your likes and dislikes; the things you are willing to do for yourself and others etc. Realize that you not only have desires and intents to perform actions and to receive benefits, but also "higher-level" desires and intents about "lower-level" desires and intents. For instance, becoming self-motivated is a matter of wanting to want things.
As you come to understand all these aspects of your mind, you will also gain influence over them.
Even if you don't introspect, you get naturally less interested in women as you age. This, combined with repeated observations of their congenital bad attitudes, will make you less keen on pursuing female companionship.
7a7876 No.164
all these bastards telling you to fuck a bitch forget one thing, condoms can break or be sabotaged and then your ruined. instead learn from others errors.
it has been my experience that masturbation with a good porno is just as good as sex. You really arent missing outall that much. So many men pretend otherwise, bc fucking many women raises their status but i guarantee you their best asexual rimes were when they were alone.
ee97b2 No.172
>>63MGTOW doesn't mean you have to be a virgin. Those people are called wizards.
As and MGTOW you are actually encouraged to have a plentiful sex life. Just don't get into a committed relationship.
There is only exception to this rule in my opinion. Chances are that even in a world with so much SJW cancer, you might get really lucky and find that angel of a woman. If you think this happened to you, you do one thing. Turn off your emotions. Objectively evaluate whether what you perceive is reality or you are just getting suckered by all the feels. Check and double check. Don't rush into anything. Commit only if 100% sure of what you see is what you get.
Otherwise, what you are basically dealing with is a thief. A thief who will ruin your life and take your money.
0a3034 No.193
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
In the last couple of minutes Aaron Clarey makes some broad generalizations about MGTOW.
I like to think myself as an incel turned MGTOW.
Women didn't appreciate my approaches in my teenage years and my early twenties. I decided to give up and tell them to go fuck themselves.
Sometimes I'm still uneasy about my virginity. Men from different age groups react differently to it. Guys in their 20s and 30s generally go full /pol/ on me and call me a loser, degenerate, etc. Men in their 40s and older tell me that I shouldn't ever base my value on the number of cunts I penetrated or not.
I don't have feelings about >tfwnogf and porn satisfies me. The only area in life where I can get uncomfortable about my virginity is social settings. I don't want people - especially women - to find out about my lack of sexual experience. Also, I'm afraid of preaching the MGTOW wisdom because what if someone shoots me down with one sentence: you just can't get laid.
Sometimes I ponder visiting a prostitute - they're semi-legal in my area - but then I'm too much of a Jew to pay and I'm also afraid of STDs. And whenever I'm trying to make myself to ask about a prostitutes prices I choose to jerk off instead thus satisfying the need.
Sorry for the echo chamber post.
b0dba3 No.194
>>193If YOU feel uneasy about your virginity, its better to change that situation. I would recommend prostitutes only as a last resort.
If you have no hangups about older women(between 35-40), I would recommend hooking up with them first. In that age, most women are hungry for sex and most men would have little problems getting laid with one unless they perceive you as a psycho. Preferably try Single Mothers. Spinsters if you can find them. Also older women are the best for your first sexual experience. They tend to be pretty open about their sexual needs and also tend to be accommodating with your imperfections
Try prostitutes only if this doesn't work. Apart from the risk of STDs, the good ones are pretty expensive and quite a lot of them are junkies, so the sexual experience will suck most of the time
a611df No.199
>>194Basically this. Cougars are a lot of fun. Less demanding . More Fun. More hungry for sex. Willing to try out more things such as threesomes etc.
4895f6 No.205
>>193>Guys in their 20s and 30s generally go full /pol/ on me and call me a loser, degenerate, etc. Men in their 40s and older tell me that I shouldn't ever base my value on the number of cunts I penetrated or not. Pol is a fucking joke. These days it is infiltrated by all kind of trolls ranging from fedora tippers to jews pretending to be stormfront. These days its an useless place to have an intelligent conversation. It is full of people either trolling each other or going full retard.
On the point about guys calling you a degenerate, like the earlier poster said it all depends on you. You could go out and break that jinx, its not that hard but eventually as an MGTOW you gotta learn to develop a thick skin. Its part of being individualistic. The herd does not take kindly to this
5e71af No.229
>>93Most men going there own way have had their hands forced, at least somewhat.
I would argue that experiencing sex one time will make you feel a lot better, especially when you see how little you're really missing. You can only prove it to yourself, but there's nothing 'magical' about it. If you're a really rational and unemotional person it might even feel weird. Like you're naked with a person you barely know and are putting your body into her body over and over for no real reason.
997cbd No.235
As a non-virgin let me tell you what your missing: not much.
I recommend masturbation: lefty does not need to be wine and dinned, does not ask for money or favors, does not bitch to you or make demands of you. Finally and this is important, lefty actually feels better and is more responsive then a vigina.
997cbd No.236
Another option: save up and buy a high price call girl for a night. 99% of men won't ever get anything that hot and capable in bed for free. After that regular women will disgust you sexually.
3e5500 No.242
>>235very true, unfortunately one can only experience that for themselves.
>>236me being spoilt by living in amsterdam would be fine with some windowshopping (had some great sm experience with an older (~35yo) woman who was so nice to really guide me trough despite my spaghetti. but if prostitution is illegal where you're from better go for a quality callgirl.
You can be really open to a prostitute because they've seen it all, really don't care and some young shy guy isn't special nor an annoyance to them.
f7c7a1 No.244
Take it from another kissless virgin MGTOW who learned the easy way OP.
Observe any of your friends you have who are in relationships.
Observe how they complain on and on about how their girlfriends are bitches all the time.
Observe how when they break up, they say they're glad they're single, but then go find another bitch a few weeks later. But then go back to complaining about the same shit.
This was how I learned something is horribly wrong with the world we're living in. One minute my friend is telling me to go find a girl to take to prom, and then right after he gets into a fight with his girlfriend, he starts ranting about how he didn't even want to go to the prom in the first place. Women have become something like a harmful drug to men. They know they need to stop, but they'll always go back for their fix.
Would you do meth or heroin even once? If no, then why would you ever get into a relationship?
I know curiosity can tempt you, but remember, relationships in this day and age will never lead to a happy ending.
f7c7a1 No.245
>>244I'd also like to add that women do the same shit.
They complain about how all their previous boyfriends were assholes, while still continuing to fuck guys exactly like that.
I feel as though something has made men and women both very toxic to each other, but natural instincts draw them back together again and again.
4e4cbc No.250
>>63It's hard to be totally invested (in anything really)unless you've had experience with it. I spent 2 years living with a female roommate, and that hellish experience has helped me to be more firmly mgtow than I was before. It helps to hear others horror stories, and take to heart your own feelings of "It will be different for me!". You are of course free to take that gamble, but use your logic and reasoning as a Man to make the best decision.
8013b7 No.2107
>>63
>That feel when never had a gf before and am a virgin.
those are the requirements of being an MGTOW
welcome champion!
dfdf2f No.2127
>>2107
>those are the requirements of being an MGTOW
*those are the requirements of being a Wizard
ftfy, faggot
79bfb7 No.2132
I feel your pain. I'm in my 40s and I often think about what'd I do differently concerning women if I was a young man in today's society knowing what I know now.
I wouldn't waste time and money dating and getting hooked into relationships. That wasn't so bad in the 80s, 90s and 00s, but now all that is totally fucked up.
You're young and you should get to experience fucking your brains out and getting your dick worked on by hot chicks. You'd save more money than I spent keeping GFs happy by just hiring call-girls. But I'm not talking about straight-up whores - but call-girls that you can actually have a raport with and fuck once a month. You have have 5 different ones and fuck each one once a week. You'd still save more money than what it takes to find and keep a regular GF happy. Nowadays, these chicks abound and not just on Craigslist. Anywhere you have a college or university, you're going to be able to find these girls. Just keep it on the down-low.
There's really no difference between fucking a regular call-girl than fucking a GF, in many ways they're better than GFs.
The reason why I don't recommend studying Game to bang chicks for free is the risk of false accusations and other drama they bring to your life.
79bfb7 No.2159
>>2146
I'm a very wealthy individual because I never got married or had children. I live on an island in a seafront property. Hardly a waste of life. I've lost count of the number of chicks I've fucked. Good times.
You shouldn't be like this. You should do something different to avoid the hell of my life. The ONE is out there for you, I know you'll find her. Stick to the dating websites and let them know you're marriage potential. Get married and have a few kids, it's going to work out just fine for you.
79bfb7 No.2163
>>2160
Venting, really? I have no need to vent. I write about MGTOW to give some of the younger guys like OP a bit of wisdom from my experiences. They can take it or leave it, obviously.
The one thing I will say for certain is that marriage and kids will kill your future dreams of success and peace of mind. Even if you manage success despite getting married and having kids, it's warped version of what you originally imagined and divorce can take it all away.
67c23b No.2164
>>2163
>I write about MGTOW to give some of the younger guys like OP a bit of wisdom from my experiences.
you definitely had an impact on this young guy: >>2146
lol
51a5be No.2168
>>2164
They all can't be helped, nor should the be helped. I have no interest to spread MGTOW beyond its current numbers. It's the blue pill guys who run interference for MGTOW. We need them to sacrifice themselves to the system to keep the system's attention off of us. So let them burn, but I do thank them for their sacrifice.
dba726 No.2169
>>63
Getting drunk every other night, while watching youtube videos, movies, and playing vidya games. Thats how I get buy and it seems to solve all my other problems as well.
>I wish to lead a successful life
>If I die tonight…that would be okay to
9895a9 No.2175
“People whose lives are barren and insecure seem to show a greater willingness to obey than people who are self-sufficient and self-confident. To the frustrated, freedom from responsibility is more attractive than freedom from restraint. They are eager to barter their independence for relief of the burdens of willing, deciding and being responsible for inevitable failure." Eric Hoffer
c6da95 No.2176
>>63
>i have no experience with women, but that's totally by choice, because other people online, who also have no experience with women, tell me they're bad
lol
>>75
>just date women, that's it, because i'm sure you can easily get dates with women
lololol
67c23b No.2177
OP I'm in your position too
How do I get a longterm girlfriend? That's really all I want in life at this point, I have everything else
73eea4 No.2186
>>2177
All I just heard was "how do I get piranhas to eat me alive, that's really all I want in life at this point, I have everything else"
a74014 No.2190
>>2132
On the topic of call-girls - here's an interesting new MGTOW video, 'Escort Etiquette':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKpoXPh3Ruc
a74014 No.2191
>>2177
>How do I get a longterm girlfriend?
If that's really what you want, I'd recommend studying a bit of game theory before going out prospecting. You'll need to know how to play that game (because it is a game), else you are going to get played. So it's your choice on how you want to approach the situation. If you know nothing, you're going to get played. Sure, you may get that longterm girlfriend, but you're going to be buying her tampons every month, among other things… unless you know how to control your 'frame'.
Commit to the understanding that after the relationship goes tits-up, you will probably never see her again, and regret even the good times. In the best case, you'll have about 6 months of fucking your brains out (more typically it's about 3 months), followed by a year or two of the slow-death break-up - which includes getting back together again and breaking up again.
Her friends will end up hating you, and that includes all her male friends that you hung out drinking beer with - they will all side with her. You can also count on losing any of your female friends who built raport with her along the way, and a few guy friends who will side with her and against you because they want a shot at fucking her after it's over-over.
a74014 No.2195
>>2191
Just in follow-up… Unless you have the balls to reminder her where the door is the first time she stamps her feet in some crazy argument, you have no business in a longterm relationship with a woman.
And they literally do stamp their feet (it's a shit test, BTW). You stop her in the middle of her tearful rant and say, "Listen to me - you know where the door is." Point your finger towards the door and then don't say another word. Either she will stop her fucking ranting (at which point you tell her to take her clothes off and get into bed), or she continues ranting. If she continues ranting, it's mother fucking over and you need to break up with her in that moment.
FYI
73eea4 No.2198
>>2195
>You stop her in the middle of her tearful rant and say, "Listen to me - you know where the door is." Point your finger towards the door and then don't say another word.
EXCELLENT ADVICE GOOD SIR!
Never go into a relationship NEEDING the other person, they will use you, guaranteed! You must be willing to drop them fast like a slim lubed up turd, you must make them painfully aware that if they get bitchy, whiny, needy, you will shoot them out of your ass like brown lightning, right down the toilet, gone.
Oh and remember: get a vasectomy. If you somehow win the lottery and found the one, and she wants kids and you want kids: it is reversible. Then of course your soulmate will turn sour, take your kids, teach them to hate you, take your money, your home and leave you ejected down the toilet.