/mgtow/ - Men Going Their Own Way

>>756
I'm OP
1. MGTOW is the best you can do if you want to see your true potential. I cannot stress this enough. You know how feminists talk about micro aggressions? Well, for us men, there is something I call micro investments. All the tiny amounts of time, attention and energy you invest on a woman take a toll on you after a while. You give up these resources in favor of someone else. I came to the realization that after you free yourself of that and consciously and willingly embrace your loneliness, your focus acquires a laser-like quality. There is no feeling like it, seriously.

2. If you are doing the MGTOW correctly, paradoxically, you end up attracting women. This is beyond insane. If you spend time working on something you want, people is attracted to you. But also, if you genuinely stop desiring women, women become attracted to you. It's insane.

3. People tend to be flabbergasted by the prospect of you being away of any and all types of relationships. My friends and family simply can't wrap their heads around this concept. It's like if I was a martian drag queen or something. I think they feel threatened by this way of existing.

4. People will make anything and everything to "pair" you with someone else. During this time my friends have orchestrated more ambush dates for me than never.I get to a party and end up talking with this overtly desperate women that want to be in serious relationships by yesterday. Then my friends confess. The whole party was an ambush for me to meet these crazy gals and settle for one of them. "You're young and in the way to success. Get a woman to spend your life with". Nope…

5. Here's the question: At the beginning this kind of stuff was cute, even nice. I would apologize politely to the women, to my friends or family or whomever and say "I'm not interested in relationships right now". I stopped trying to explain the MGTOW stuff, since it seems to be an alien, subversive, touchy concept.
But now, fending off all of this bullshit is taking a toll on me. The constant tries to find me a partner… and I'm tired of it. Has anyone gone trough something similar? How do you deal with this shit? I mean, without going full hermitage? Is it even possible?

Anyhoo, you are welcome to ask me anything and keep this forum alive. It's great.

>>757
Clearly, assertively, maybe a little painfully, tell them that you have absolutely no interest in any relationship with a woman. This might become an argument. If your friends don't accept that, they might not be very good friends.
Put your foot down.

Don't even try to explain yourself. Make your boundaries clear, if they violate them threaten to distance yourself from them, since they obviously don't respect you. If they keep at it drop them altogether.

You're right there's a strong defensive reaction to the concept. For most people it's like hearing someone doesn't require sleep (and obviously even worse when thye're female, then it's like that plus telling them they're expandable on some level, when they think themselves invaluable).

If you, by some feat of willpower altered yourself so that you didn't have to sleep, lived your life to the fullest 24/7 and didn't tire, would you go around telling your friends about it if you expected they were incapable of replicating it or even unwilling to try because of some kind of cultural value ascribed to sleep?

OP this is the best story on this board so far. Congrats for your success.

Females are really like that. They don't love you for what you are. They want you because they would be jealous of another woman getting you.
They want things they cant have.

For your question. Just ignore the offers. Don't explain them why they would never understand anyway. If someone annoys you specially, stop spending time with him/her for a while. Try to condition them like dogs. If they annoy you, you won't hang out with them.

"im declaring bankruptcy next week"

try this phrase

in this case, you really need to ask yourself what those people have ever done for you.

one of the first things I realized as I began to correct my life was that my closest circle was harming me rather than helping me. I stopped treating them like family and instead treated them like the hostile entities they are.

most people just can't let go of that social programming which guilts them into being servile just because of various conditions (a woman's tears, societal shaming language, popularity of feminism, etc.) which work on their emotions.

Thanks guys. Your advice is sound and I really needed to read that. Thanks.

>If you, by some feat of willpower altered yourself so that you didn't have to sleep, lived your life to the fullest 24/7 and didn't tire, would you go around telling your friends about it if you expected they were incapable of replicating it or even unwilling to try because of some kind of cultural value ascribed to sleep?

I like this metaphor. A lot.

This is the standard tactic I use to get rid of people around me that I don't want, men or women. Generally these are people who want to use me to get something they want.

I tell them that I need money and if I could get a handout. (even though I don't).Basically I use a false preemptive strike. Works every time. Regardless of gender

Just women that you have fallen on hard times and need a lot of money. They'll disperse like roaches to bug spray