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3c7869 No.817

How do you guys cope with the loneliness? Is it just rage that gets you through? As much as we hate to admit it, we are animals, and we do have a biological need for closeness and intimacy. How do you handle the knowledge that you will never experience that?

I ask this not in a presumptuous or dismissive or passive aggressive manner – I ask because I legitimately wish to know how you cope with it. I'm beginning to come to grips with my recent diagnosis of schizoid personality disorder, and I see in you guys a group of people whom I could learn from.

Even if I woke up tomorrow 100% committed with every fiber of my being to getting married, buying a 3.6 bedroom house, having 2.2 kids and 1.3 animals I would never be able to make it to the third date, even with an ideal, perfect woman who doesn't exist and is infinitely patient. So I'm coming at this from a little different direction than you guys are, even though the end result is the same. It isn't a choice for me like it is for you guys, I'm going to be like this no matter what I choose.

I also don't want to emulate your rage. This isn't to say that your anger is unfounded, but rather that I am incapable of experiencing the things which brought it about. I am the fox; I cannot reach the grapes, so for me to say that they are sour is disingenuous, whereas you have had bloody great mouthfuls of grapes and know for a fact how bad they taste.

Nonetheless, I want to learn from you, how you cope, and how you deal with it. Even if we come from different perspectives and backgrounds we arrive in the same situation.

9b55d1 No.818

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>>817
>Never experience

Nigga make friends with a man.

That's the closest relationship you'll ever get.

>Not gay


I'm not talking about sucking his dick faggot.

3c7869 No.819

>>818
I'm referring largely to physical closeness. As much as I enjoy my friends, I do not cuddle with them, or stroke their hair.

9b55d1 No.820

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>>819
You can hug.

And explain what precisely do you get hugging a parasite?

They cannot love and would not love you even if it was possible.

Your problem is self-created based on the delusion that cunts can provide for you something you lack.

You lack nothing but the ability to let go of illusions. How can you go your own way if you cannot be rid of them?

3c7869 No.821

>>820
I'm sorry anon, but I have absolutely no kind of respect for that sort of platitude spewing edgy bullshit. All I hear is you glorifying isolation and actively dehumanizing half the world's population. If that's the kind of person you want to be then sure, go ahead, but I'm not going to follow that. I know precisely how vulnerable I am to that kind of thinking, and to fall into it would be a great weakness on my part.

I'm not saying you shouldn't go your own way, but let's be real here: if you deny women's humanity, call them parasites, and claim they are incapable of love, how are you any better than a feminist who denies your humanity, calls you an rapist-to-be, and claims you're incapable of empathy? You don't need any of these things to go your own way; all that requires is realizing that the game is rigged and the only way to win is to not play.

And yes, they CAN provide me with something that I lack – they just aren't ever going to, and have no reason to. If you deny that, then, well, you're the one laboring under an illusion. You can give something up while still recognizing that what you're giving up is desirable, and, in fact, if you don't, you aren't actually making a choice at all.

0d4c58 No.828

cope with loneliness?

I dunno, how about: anything.

I would read books if I didn't have all these video games and movies.

9b55d1 No.830

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>>821
>I dehumanize women
>They don't do it themselves

9b55d1 No.831

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c23b36 No.833

Every time you think about starting a romantic relationship, just imagine the pain you'll feel when she cheats on you.

Or if things progress to marriage level, just imagine having to give up half of everything you own (including your pay check) to her when she divorces you.

5c24d8 No.844

>>817

>How do you handle the knowledge that you will never experience that?


1. By accepting it. In my experience when you accept this kind of stuff and embrace it, you stop fighting against it. It doesn't hurt anymore, it doesn't make you sad, it doesn't make you angry. But you have to realize this and embrace it. And this is when things get interesting, because you are outside of what people expect from you. Culture and media and whoever has brainwashed you into believing that you will only have value as long as you are in a relationship, working for your wife and kids and being this social beast of burden or whatever. That's how the story goes and that's a pretty tired out narrative. You can see the progression of it in your head and in men around you. You even described it: "buying a 3.6 bedroom house, having 2.2 kids and 1.3 animals" and you can extrapolate from it. It's the same boring story all over again. You, OP, are away from that BS and you are free to do weird and scary and risky and legendary and outright exciting shit. Shit, proud parents and divorcees, won't ever get to do. So go out and get in trouble, scare people, embrace your weirdness, live your life to the fullest, and enjoy. Damn it, enjoy.

2. Get in motion. Do something. Whatever. Something that you like. You don't know if you like it? Give it a try, for a month, a year, a decade. Decide. If you like it, keep doing it, pour your soul on it. Strive to be better day in and day out. If you grow tired of it, change it. Don't make it a chore. You can make money out of it? Earn it, but don't become a slave to it. Remember: GYOW means freedom, the hardest step is to get rid of women, don't get trapped in other slave driving scheme.
My advice: do something creative/manual. If it requires tools, even better.

3. Don't pity yourself. Yes, it's a crappy hand you were dealt with. But fuck it, you still got your life. Make the most out of it.

>I also don't want to emulate your rage


I don't think all MGTOW are angry. I know I'm not. Find whatever works for you. Just a word of warning: I don't think you will find it in kumbayah circles. The ones that go: "You are beautiful just because you are you". No, you are not. Nope, we are not. You are great because of the things you do. Seek your greatness. Whatever that means to you.

(I'm not entirely sure I like the flag thingie. I think I'm the only mexican posting on this board. Please don't rat me out on /pol/)

9b55d1 No.852

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>>844
/pol/ only hates niggers and sandniggers.

Pretty sure Mexicans are ok so long as they stay in their drug cartels.

fb16e0 No.1384

>>831

Juba sniper?


fb16e0 No.1385

>>852

/pol/ hates peckerwoods and crackers too


1e788d No.1474

>>817

I started going on >>>/cuteboys/ because I'm attracted to feminimity and not women. Turns out boys/traps/ftm can be way more feminine than real women.

>>820

pretty fuckin edgy post m8. I rate it 8/8 on edge


ae50b5 No.2231

I don't feel it any more. I don't feel lonely I feel expansive when I'm alone. Like I'm in a giant open feels all alone with no one to distract me from the beauty of the sight.


38cf7a No.2235

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>>1474

>Turns out boys/traps/ftm can be way more feminine than real women.

>men are more feminine than women

>mfw

You're literally trying to brain-wash yourself and make yourself gay to cope…

That's a strange strategy man. Good luck lol


d9c903 No.2558

>>817

Hmm… that's a good question anon. I suppose I cope by having an older brother, and a few very close friends that I can rely on for anything (no sex of course). I don't NEED female attention. I don't NEED sexual attention from an organic female.

I don't NEED an offspring.

I have friends and family. I have a vast amount of mlp, loli, furry, xenomorphic, and even some baser human on human pornography to satiate my sexual fetishes and appetite that a woman would never and could never compete with.

Bring a child into this world is an intrinsic crime I believe. It is too corrupted and tainted to be conducive to a proper and healthy environment to foster a child.

And let's not forget about the drugs man and nature have produced to ease the pain of the everyday world. Cannabis, alcohol, mushrooms, occasionally some pharmaceutical grade amphetamines for a party night.

I would say that my coping is quite efficient. I do not need much from this world as the things and people I value in my life are worth more to me than any relationship with a modern female. I cannot see the worth or value in those creatures.

But am I lonely? No. In fact, I have managed to surround myself with an insulating bubble of the my most trustworthy and loyal of friends and kin. How can I be lonely when the people I love the most are always close to me?

We share a duality of companionship, trust, and a desire to help one another improve and protect that which is important to us on closed 'inner circle' scale preventing the scourges of this world to harm us with its blight.


8c5c46 No.2559

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>>2235

>obama, bush are gay

>secret homo orgies in the woods of california when the elite of the planet meet

>vatican


18bf8c No.2587

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>>817

>>819

Dude, if you want a substitute for a woman's physical closeness, get a platinum silicone sex doll.

DS-DollSweet delivered mine in about 5 weeks. $3K for a 50 pound cutie I can fuck, cuddle, and stroke all I want. It might sound weird, but there are a lot of companies selling these dolls now.

Having a soft life-sized doll (that you can hide) is way better than going without a female for the rest of your life. You can even choose from a variety of body and face options. Designer sex surrogates.

I get bad bouts of social anxiety sometimes, so relationships are out of the question for me, but after I got my doll I haven't been lonely at all. I am at peace and I am happy I bought a Sex Doll. It works for me.




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