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>>413

It will be rare to find centered people who have opposite opinions on every subject though, but technically this could happen, sure. This is not a problem though. In contrary, opposite opinions are great, as long as they've been reached by individual thought.

The problem with the whole left and right paradigm is that people who consider themselves to be on one side have a tendency to align with the rest of that side's opinions, if only because they tend to just be around people from that side and get information from that side. If only because people have a tendency to find confirmation of their beliefs, which is very hard to resist.

If you actively look at both sides and took best of either, then no matter what your choices turn out to be, you have at least given it some thought of your own and not mindlessly accepted all opinions of one side as the only truth, which many people on the extreme sides tend to do.

This is what bothers me about left-right think. It coerces people to think in one certain way and actively pushes them away from a centered/balanced opinion. Even if you're slightly biased towards one side, people really just want to identify you with that side. This means that while you may be much closer to someone who's only slightly biased to the other side, than to the extremists on your side, you'll still be grouped in with those extremists.

"you're right-wing? that means you probably hate gays, immigration and are against abortion". Just to give an rough example.

I really hate that. People love to group things and have "us" vs "them" situations, but this is not productive.

The thing is, it doesn't even really make sense to group up a set of opinions and label it "left" or "right" as if they're a package deal. Every opinion should be looked at separately. Every issue too. Sure, you'll see that certain sets of ideas go well together, but that doesn't mean they should all be put in a group automatically.

I have a hard time accepting the claim that losing Greece would be hard/impossible/a bad thing for Europe. It became obvious pretty soon that Greece was way to broken internally (and ignorant towards it) to be able to fix itself. Now that we're at the third bailout, it starts to look like I was right about that. They're not going to change. They just can't. At least not fast enough. Right now they're trying to keep themselves afloat as long as they can, while just doing enough to keep the money coming in, which is already hard enough for them as it is.

Greece is a bottomless pit. We're being too nice. Keeping the money flowing is only enabling them at this point. Knowing people (especially the kind that lied in the first place, which they did), the priority of the ones in charge will be to ensure their own financial future. The country will be second place. I can guarantee that.

Even now there are already questions about what is really happening to the bailout money and all I can do is sit back in amazement how they didn't even think to check this. It's like they want this drug addict to buy more drugs with the handouts. It's like governments have no understanding of how people work.

And while it sucks for those Greeks that are fucked over by their own government and the system, but that doesn't mean we should just let them take Europe down with them. Cut off the rotten limb. I really just want them gone now, whatever the consequences, because I doubt it can be worse than keeping this drain in.

>>410

I agree that Greece is obviously a burden to the EU, but the EU doesn't kick out member countries out.

In the interest of the people, I think Greece would have left the EU now if they could of. On the other hand, my main worry for Greece is that it is very vulnerable and it can be exploited in the interests of corporations so 'they' are benefiting from the crisis.

Perhaps Brussels is trying to figure out how to save the Greeks but I do not have faith in them.

I think with the rise of Golden Dawn, crowds will start to get bigger and more violent. If the Greek people believe they have power then they will force their way out of the EU.

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I also recommend the documentary Euromania:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4Ayo4mYZg

This kind of board should be stickied somehow. Both extreme sides make me want to put a bullet in my head and hope to reincarnate on a planet without insane apes.

>>406

I feel that that's also the reason why boards like this aren't really active. As centrist people our main worry is most likely (in most places anyway) mostly to keep the extremists at bay, while those extremists have tons of goals to achieve and therefor much more to discuss.

Maybe I'm wrong though.

>>405

For now, this is a dead board.

Yes. Here in germany, if you don't vote at all, your vote gets broken down onto the parties. The higher the percentage of votes a partie has, the higher the percentage of which parts of my vote go to them.

It basicly means that if I don't vote at all, the two biggest parties will get my vote, so I vote for a small satire party, which is basicly called "The PARTY".

>>387

I usually vote for underdog parties too, like the pirate party f.e.. The big parties have all let me down, especially the party that claims to be centrally oriented, but acts more leftwing than the typical leftwing parties on issues that are important to me.

Sometimes I wish not voting meant they would just change less. I feel more and more like things are pretty good now, and that they should stop tampering with the system for a while, because they're more likely to fuck it up than to improve it.

I definetly support open source software, and I try to advertise a lot of it, such as icecat, as much as I can, but I since I mainly want my machine to play vidya on it, I am forced to stay with windows. I'm planning to use a dual boot system soon, though, with which I will be using Linux for everything and Windows for gaming.

I know nothing about this. Does anyone have any good sources on reading up on this orginization?

>>160

Pretty much this. The greenest and most efficient energy is nuclear, but the ones that want it to be banished the most, are the people who voice the loudest concerns about climate change. They're contradicting themselves, but shouting loud enough to change something.

Another problem is, is that with some research, we could get much better reactors. And I mean better in everry sense:

A less dangerous material is needed, it can be retrieved and reused from the waste, they're more effecient. The only benefit from our current reactors is, well, they're cheaper to build initially.

>>247

There is hard data that it is caused by humans. What do you say about that?

Your opinion on that matter is irrelevant. With the climate change, there are also more storms, tornadoes and land disappearing because of the raising sealevel.

>hot deserts

Our deserts are already hot, and near inhabitable, if it gets hotter, more land will get inhabitable.

>>312

not that anon

My understanding is that the data suggests humans are accelerating it, not causing it. It was going to get hotter anyway, we just propped the door open.

>>247

Redneck christfag detected.

Well I be damned the fucking green prty. Supposedly Bernie sanders political view aligns with mine WEIRD. Im still leaning Rand Paul thought fuck that cunt Hillary.

On one hand it's giving into the SJW horde, on the other hand, hicks that take shit too far are the reason the southeast is such a sphincter.

Tough call. I'm gonna go with sure, because fuck the SJWs, and I don't live there so I don't care.

I would say yes.

How can a flag encourage racism? Do Swastikas in films and on German memorabilia encourage Nazism?

Besides, people who are racist will be racist whether there is a flag or not. Actually, taking flag down, a symbol with historical significance in the South, will breed more racism if anything.

Despite my national socialist leaning, I do respect Israel as a country that at least has a modest population of well informed citizens, despite them being brainwashed.

Also, their military is indeed well trained and armed, so they can get shit done when they have to. It's such a shame that can't be let off the leash against ISIS. I would just die of joy to see them conduct their cynical form of asymmetric warfare on a group they have to show no mercy on.

It will never happen as ISIS is just a mere puppet of the US to clear out Iraq and Syria of the last people remaining. And they are eventually going to start fighting Saudi Arabia, as their plan is too, so hopefully then Israel can finally do something with their military might if shit hits the fan then.

But to really answer your question, I do not like modern kike ideology in any regard.

>>365

>asymmetric warfare on a group they have to show no mercy on

you do realize that your continued existence is as a result of people with actual power allowing you to exist

you could be wiped out with a few clicks of a few men's guns

I only know a few (pretty nice guys and a 7/10 grill) and I don't trust the backass retarded /pol/ infographics,

>>243

raid the rauls

Younforgot the Republicans are bipolar.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/04/the-gops-bates-motel/

>>163

Is this a troll image? Why is 'Marxism' more left than Anarchism and Primitivism?

>implying political partied can be accurately described on a single axis

Well in the center margin there could be centrist. For people like me who chose not to align themselves with either political faction. Just throwing that out there.