No.105604[Last 50 Posts]
Americans deserve better!
>In March of 2014 Sanders organized a subcommittee to examine in depth the differences in life expectancy across the United Sates as a direct result of varying poverty levels.
>Some of the findings reported that almost as many people die from poverty as from lung cancer.
>Life expectancy was also shown to have decreased over the past 20 years in 313 U.S. counties,
>and the United States has 6 million more people in poverty today than it did in 2004.
>Sanders’ campaign website lists some alarming figures about overall U.S. poverty as well as child poverty on an international scale. According to the site, 46.5 million Americans live below the poverty line making that figure the largest in U.S. history.
>In addition to this number, Sanders’ website cites a 21.8 percent child poverty rate, the “highest of any major country on earth.” It is important to distinguish here that by “major country,” he is referring to all countries part of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OCED).
https://archive.is/ec2ab
> But living in poverty is stressful, and that stress can have a cumulative effect that shows later in life.
>“It degrades you physically in a lot of ways,” says Leech. “It increases your susceptibility to a lot of chronic diseases … it plays a role in hypertension. But also for young kids, it affects neurological development.”
>Stress is also linked to unhealthy habits, such as smoking and overeating, which are in turn linked to cancer, obesity and heart disease – America’s biggest killers.
>Fixing these life expectancy gaps isn’t as simple as telling people to eat better or exercise more. Leech says it will require addressing the underlying inequalities between neighborhoods.
>“People in our cities are living in completely different societies, and we decide if we’re okay with that,” she says. “And if we’re not, then we have to do something and it has to be big and it’s going to take all of us.”
>We say our goodbyes, and I continue down the trail to 10th Street, where life expectancy drops to 71. I get off the trail at the end, right by the highway. It smells like exhaust, and there’s not a jazz musician in sight.
https://archive.is/hk1cg
In England
>The model output is more optimistic than official figures. By 2030, life expectancy is predicted to reach 85·7 years (95% credible interval 84·2–87·4) for men and 87·6 years (86·7–88·9) for women. >The sex gap would be reduced to just 1·9 years as mortality is likely to continue to improve more for middle-aged and old men than it will for women
https://archive.is/ffHaS
No.105608
Blah blah blah leftist talking points
Solution to poverty - get a fucking job
No.105609
>>105608
the unemployment rate is too high for that
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>>105608
and having less kids, but good luck telling niggers and white trash what to do.
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>>105611
>>105608
>has never had a job
>get a job!
It must be fun being 12.
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>>105608
What sort of job do you have
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>>105614
>>105623
Cool ad hominem, leftist twats
No.105644
Socialism for America! We're finally becoming first world!
Or is it
No.105645
>>105615
>that filename
lel
No.105646
>>105604
Too bad, Clinton isn't going to debate him.
Hillary isn't going to let something as petty as public opinion keep her from getting the democratic nomination.
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>>105640
Cool ad logicam, you double nigger.
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>>105608
Most jobs that you apply for, rather than are recruited for, are either part time because the company or individual cannot afford mandatory health care for full-time workers, or pay a low wage with nothing for the way of promotion opportunities. Where I live, there's basically two call centers that pay better than any other job in the area, but they're hell to work at, and still don't pay a living wage, making cohabitation a mandate.
>>105609
Indeed, but people don't believe that it's possible to never be called back after applying to EVERYWHERE, due to the absolute glut of available workers. All the people who got perma-laid-off from the steel plants and related industries haven't died off just yet, and who would you hire? Joe who worked 25 years at the steel plant, or Joe who worked two weeks at Taco Bell?
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>>105658
>who would you hire? Joe who worked 25 years at the steel plant, or Joe who worked two weeks at Taco Bell?
The 2nd Joe will work for Taco Bell wages. He's got the job.
No.105672
>>105664
That would depend highly on the job.
You can't pay someone 5$/hour if he has colleagues around him that do the same job in the same amount of time for 10$/hour.
You'd hurt your company and product quality in the long term if you have unjustifiable wagegaps like this.
No.105677
I would vote for Bernie in the primaries over the Democrats version of Richard Nixon aka Hillary Clinton, but I don't think Sander's could win the presidential election. People are vain and stupid, they want a pretty face, nice stump speech and a name that is popular.
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>>105672
Silly anon.. You just put a gag order on your employees. They sign a non-disclosure agreement and they can't talk about their salary.
Nips collective bargaining in the bud.
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>>105672
Unjustifiable? After Joe works here for 10 years like they did, he'll be earning 10 an hour too.
Not going to give an entry level worker the same wages as someone who's stuck around for a while.
No.105715
>>105608
>get a fucking job
Good luck competing with illegals who will work for less than minimum wage :^)
No.105723
>>105715
Sad but true. It was designed to happen this way by the illegal Amnesty EO Obama signed. The courts blocked it due to it being a threat to national security … but the Obama regime continues to keep the borders wide open. They don't even listen to the laws or courts anymore, the govt has become an executive dictatorship that does what-ever the hell they please.
Expect the United States to become a third world country, very soon.
With that blunt fact said, I don't trust Hillary nor do I trust Bernie, nor do I trust establishment republicans either, to fix anything. They will continue to exploit us until we no longer have any wealth, they then will leave this country to wallow in it's own shit hole.
Have a nice day.
No.105745
>>105723
gotten so bad here that all the offline non-skilled and semiskilled work is taken up by illegals. even high school age kids cant find jobs this summer because of the wage undercutting beaners. i quit going to fast food joints partially because trying to get an order straight with someone who barely knows any english is an excercise in frustration.
No.105748
You can't solve poverty by spreading it around.
The last thing you want to do is reward the poor choices these people made that caused them to be poor. It would only encourage them.
Bernie is a marxist, so naturally he wants more poverty to bring down society for his economic and cultural marxist revolution.
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>>105748
Nice rehearsed argument you've got there, anon. It's got assumptions, loaded language, the whole nine yards. Did it take you long to memorize it?
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>>105771
It's less that they're calling for it, more that they'd blindly support anything she suggests.
Or it could be that he's phrasing it in a very loaded manner; if you as someone if they'd support something that sounds really good, they'll likely say yes. The people are simply to ignorant to understand the ramifications of what he's saying, or that he's posing these questions in a tone that mocks their idiocy.
It's still worrisome findings, though.
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>>105771
sheep supporting their own slaughter, that's all.
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>>105609
Solution to unemployment - get a fucking job
No.105823
People like to act as if Rand Paul is the most pro-freedom anti-Jewish-corporatocratic candidate like hisfather was, but he welcomes money from them and therefore his campaigns exist because they ultimately approve his agenda. I can understand arguments against increased government power, but a powerful government controlled by citizens is much more Free than a weak government and economy controlled by corporate elites and their hired hounds in senators' skins. Sanders is as honest as Ron Paul aboutwhat he believes, and that's what the world needs - somebody in a position of influence that isn't bought.
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>>105608
don't fall for it
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>>105823
It would be pretty funny if he spent the money they gave him to bring them down.
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>>106119
be even funnier if he spent his own money for a change.
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>>105771
Interviewing random dipshits on the street and thinking it means something.
That cud chewing cow with a crew cut probably doesn't even know what the bill of rights is.
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>>105830
It was obvious without your post of course. If getting a job was all it took then there would not be 1/3 people of certain age groups unemployed. Especially age groups (20-35) That have only themselves to depend on and are often already desiring to start a new family. When they can't afford it and have a choice of crime, submitting to some sort of "help" or shady activities because there are no jobs…. that becomes a fucked up situation.
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>>105604
Why are you reddit shills still shilling for that gun grabber?
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>>108064
>shilling
He is one of the few presidential candidates that will help the poor instead of corporate-political fat cats.
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>>108064
Source on him being a gun-grabber? He's an old 60's hippie and Vermont isn't exactly a hive of gun grabbers.
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>>108254
>implying he isn't a fat-cat himself
>being this much of a marxist
Fuck off back to leftypol kike.
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>>105723
No it hasn't you fucking moron. You're a stupid nigger, kill yourself.
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>>108568
Good to know, I actually thought he was anti-guns. Liking this guy more and more!
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>>105723
I agree. But is is shocking Bernie supports the 2nd Amendment, if true. I hope to see Trump vs Bernie 2016. I cannot stand the political establishment either, they are all liars and criminals. This includes from the left to the right.
No.108597
Love ya Sanders!
DEATH TO ANOTHER CLINTON ERA
No.108649
At this point I'm prepared to vote Sanders just to "hasten the day" that the U.S.A. as we know it dies off. We're already bleeding out as a nation for fuck's sakes, let's just kill the bitch and start over.
No.108684
>Supporting a confirmed jewish socialist
>>>/leftypol/
No.108700
Bernie Sanders is focusing on the REAL problem
All these other problems are not the real problem, rape culture, police brutality, gay marriage, etc, etc, nothing, NOTHING!
We need Basic Income Guarantee, we need free education, we need Social security converted to citizen stock portfolios.
Automation is ending most jobs! The rich are richer then ever before, the middle class is shrinking, people are working harder and harder just to make ends meet. More are giving up because there is nothing for them.
We need to educate and retool most of the work force towards jobs that bring meaning to life. Not 9-5 making fucking burgers or picking fruit just to make enough money to survive! Not is not living!
No.108715
The poor's quality of life is not the real problem. Their opportunity to rise above poverty vanishing is the real problem.
I grew up around poor people and a lot of them deserve poverty and everything that comes with it. As long as the people who aren't garbage can rise above poverty, I quite frankly couldn't care less how bad the poor have it.
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>>108715
>Their opportunity to rise above poverty vanishing is the real problem.
Correct. That is a real problem.
Most American jobs have been outsourced due to 1) a massive increase of regulations over the years; 2) the increasing fines that come with those regulations if businesses don't comply and 3) the lucrative corruption of politics in general which puts hardworking Americans at a disadvantage.
Since the late 70s we've started to see massive pressures put on corporations and small businesses. Their incentives to keep jobs in America declined rapidly after that. Most of these corporations looked at second and third world countries like China and India as "safe-havens" from regulations / tax increases as well because of the slave labor. THIS has gutted our opportunity to rise above poverty!
What I don't like about (modern) liberals is that they don't seem to understand this concept. You have to maintain *profitable incentives to create jobs … but regulations, quite frankly, are the OPPOSITE. Therefore, you loose jobs to other nations with *profitable incentives (meaning countries with less tax / less regulations)!
One of the biggest mistakes of a *REPUBLICAN president was the creation of the EPA. Sorry to hurt you're feelings environmentalists, but it's true.
No.108751
>>108737
> liberals
This word means nothing other than "people with political opinions I don't like". Unless you're quoting someone or organization don't just mass label people with opinions.
>creation of the EPA
Do you propose any alternatives? Environmentalism isn't just some hippy shit, you need to protect where you live if you want to keep living there. If you kill all the animals, destroy the soil, poison the ground water, then you can't live somewhere. If america had no environmental protections then corporations would have made the whole country a literal shithole with pollution.
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>>108737
Hand the country over to the Corporate Executives. In the open not in backhanded deals. Watch as American superpowers surge again.
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>>108751
EPA failed with bp it fails daily with mining and fracking all over the mainland USA.
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>>108751
The EPA ain't as clean as you expect, there is a lot of corruption and problems with handling pollution/waste caused by the EPA as there is with corporations. An example:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/07/environmental-workers-spill-a-million-gallons-of-waste-into-colorado-river
I'm not promoting pollution, in fact I believe there needs to be some basic laws that limit pollution. The problem is too many laws / regulations reduce *profitable incentives to create American jobs. Thus you have a growing loss of jobs due to outsourcing. These regulations / laws / fines, ever since the creation of the EPA, have overwhelmingly increased and continue to bankrupt smaller American businesses.
If we just blow these facts off, we will NEVER EVER see a recovery of jobs.
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>>108781
Sounds like a mental disorder on that second one. Then again you could argue EPA could only be operated by those with mental disorders.
No.108823
You have no democracy … "what difference does it make!?"
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>>108737
I would rather not see fewer regulations, to be honest. I'm leaning the other way, seeing as how half of the practice of business these days is finding ways to pass off your costs to the public rather than absorb them yourself.
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>>108853
>I want more regulations
a big fat bureaucracy can always be manipulated and used by large international corporate giants
it is always bad for small business
it is always bad for society
it is always bad for the individual
get informed
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>>108853
Creating more regulations is not going to prevent them from doing this. Furthermore … the cost of policing these regulations (they have to hire federal employees to police all these regulations) is going to cost the public via taxes. Plus, as mentioned before, the lack of *profitable incentives always leads to either outsourcing jobs … or worse … bankruptcy.
By now, sadly, the only jobs that are being created are part-time, often temporary work. That, and federal employment because the government is always expanding.
Meanwhile, you can kiss the middle class goodbye in the near future.
>>108864
>a big fat bureaucracy can always be manipulated and used by large international corporate giants
It always is, one of the major loopholes IS outsourcing jobs. Plus, corporations also have to sell a lot of resources / assets to big fat bureaucracy in order for them to keep paper-pushing. Most of these sold resources/assets are imported into the country, rather than made in the country.
It's like this: the people pushing for more and more regulations often have it their way. There are always an increasing amount of regulations. Then .. they're still not satisfied … "something is still wrong here." So they call for more … and they get more. But nothing is getting better … jobs are still being lost … poverty is still increasing. … Well?
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>>108589
Trump vs. Bernie would be the election I'd kill for. Both of them seem to just say what they think instead of pandering to corporations.
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>>108939
>>108895
Fools will sleep in the beds they make. Unfortunately they make our beds too and that is unacceptable.
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>>105604
He is the top choice for anyone that thinks Corporations running the show is a problem.
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>>108769
>create American jobs
This is the problem, we still live in the mindset of "creating jobs" finding work for everyone is not necessarily the same thing as giving them meaning, purpose and happiness in life, in fact you might be promoting the continuation of slave class the must work shit jobs, and work them hard, or else curl up and die.
Every human being, I don't care how lazy, deserves a roof over their heads and enough food to survive, they deserve access to information and free education, they deserve the chance to make something of value of themselves, as how they define value, not you or I define value. We have the technology and economy to make that happen, all we need is the appropriate systems.
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>>105767
> Nice rehearsed argument you've got there, anon,
Do u have a job after taking your course in logical argument 101
guess not, hanging out here
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>>105604
The solution to poverty is to improve education and place disincentives that prevent people from under a certain income from having children.
Improving education is simply a matter of money. More money–in the hands of competent administration–will equal a better learning environment as school will benefit from better maintenance, and a security presence. The working environment will improve, which will attract teachers from private school. Higher pay for teachers will increase the number of qualified applicants, resulting in a better selection of teachers.
The government can tax people based on how many children they have. It makes sense to do so, people with children use public services that people with no children do not use, such as public schools.
Additionally, the government should subsidize birth control, abortion, and adoption services for those under a certain income threshold.
The minimum working age should be in increased to 18 years old, to prevent high school drop outs.
Lastly, the government should actively promote students learning a trade out of school, rather than going to a university. We have too many know-nothings with no job experience and a diploma, unable to find a job with insurmountable debt. America needs to return to producing things besides information.
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>>110935
And to clarify, the child tax will be tolled regardless of income.
We should also cease income-related benefits targeted for children.
Socialism is not the answer. It only enables poverty and the underlying problems that cause poverty.
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>>108769
>>108757
>Congress continually blocks anyone being appointed to the head of the EPA
>Budget being continually cut
>Gutted ever since the Reagan years
>L-LOOK! THE DEPARTMENT WITH NO HEAD AND NO FUNDING IS DOING
POORLY!
No.110940
>>108751 Do you propose any alternatives? Environmentalism isn't just some hippy shit
Chinese wearing masks in their cities,their children dying of asthma,etc
Free trade:rich got richer with low wages in countries with lower standards of living
Liberals were happy to see rusing standard of living in these places
Consevatives were happy because rich got richer
At the expense of the first world middle class.
Liberals knew this would happen,income equalization(poverty equalization)
They lied to us and said everyone would benefit.
Enjoy your 40" led tv in your slum
UN predicts POP 11 billion by 2100
Things are going to change
rich will live long lives,being able to afford advanced health care.
rest of us will die as usual
American politicians can say american dream lives,but soon even the stupidest brainwashed people are going to look around and say."what happened".
All first world countries are going to experience a decline,hordes of african economic refugees are banging at the gates of europe now
Canada and USA have the same below the US border
If your young my condolences
Although it's probably sci-fi,i hope some sort of AI is around the corner to stir things up even more,
Chinese curse:may you live in interesting times
No.110945
>>105608
>just get a job
Oh look, an upper middle class kid.
No.110952
>>108823
>yfw Jeb comes out as transgender and he actually looks like this in 2016
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>>110952
:D a transgender married to a hispanic?
HOW COULD HE LOSE
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>>110940
Likely outcome, yes. The US is slowly turning into a third world despot nation. I keep my eyes close to issues that matter most. Most countries are having severe debt problems, some like Bill Hotler have said it's far too late, our fate is now sealed.
My recommendation … get out of the system, prepare while you still can, or at least have something to blow you're brain out if all else fails.
No.111499
Choose:
1. Nigger with gun and too much time on his hand
2. Black guy with job busy working overtime
Hire them or they'll fire at you.
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>>111456
>:D a transgender married to a hispanic?
>HOW COULD XHE LOSE
Fixed.
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>>108568
holy shit this lib is so salty its spewing out of her keyboard… "vile legislation he championed" man they really went high school final essay on this one. 8/8 i was agreeing with his stance and irritated by the authors tone
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>>111509
thank you privilege checker@!
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>>108568
He's not pro-gun. He wants to ban semi-automatics. What Sanders supported here is that if somebody kills or injures somebody with a gun, the victim or their family should not be able to sue the person who manufactured the gun, in the same way you don't sue the manufacturer of a brick if somebody crushed somebodies head in with a brick, or sue the manufacture of a shoe if I take my shoe off and beat you with it.
The author wrote "If I crash my Prius because its accelerator malfunctions, I can sue Toyota for negligently manufacturing a faulty pedal." That is of course not at all the same thing as, say, suing Toyota because somebody ran you over with a Toyota car during a road rage incident.
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>>105677
Bernie is a bigger leftist circle jerk than Omaba, because smart types like him for better reasons. He could win, you'll just have to hope some apathetic niggers return from 08 and 12. And most blacks are socialists at heart, so he has potential.
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>>110945
And here we see a lazy nigger being being a lazy nigger.
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>>108589
That's a load of horseshit.
He's saying it to get you, the gullible, to vote for him.
Bernie's voted in favor of every gun ban and restriction that's ever crossed his desk.
That's a matter of record.
Sanders is just another big-government stooge capitalizing on Hillary's unpopularity.
He brings nothing new to the table, and after the last 8 years of 'progressive' nonsense I'm not voting for another Democrat.
Maybe ever.
The Republicans aren't any prize, but at least you know that going in.
The Democrats are still pretending they're still for labor, equal rights, and justice, when the reality is they're just as susceptible to cronyism as any Republican.
The ONLY thing Sanders has going for him as far as I'm concerned is he's come out against the TPP, but we'll see how long that lasts.
The rest of the Democrats are for big business, identity politics, and outright corruption.
The fact that they're still considering Hillary in spite of her tanking polls and that e-mail scandal that isn't going away says all I care to know about the current state of affairs at DNC headquarters.
Oh, and to the people whinging about a 'living wage' I suggest you take a look at the places that have instituted the $15 per hour pay rate, employers are cutting hours and laying people off left and right.
McDonald's is considering automation.
MOTHERFUCKING.MCDONALD'S.
IS.CONSIDERING.AUTOMATION.
ALL THAT FEEL GOOD BULLSHIT HAS DONE IS PRICED POOR PEOPLE OUT OF THE JOB MARKET.
Oh, and those millions of illegals the Dems want to amnesty so they'll have a permanent voting block?
They won't be competing for white collar and skilled labor.
They're competing against Americans who are already at the bottom rung of the social ladder.
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>>105608
You know Bernie Sanders, other than being an obvious kike, is a literal communist. I mean this guy supported the Sandinistas and traveled to Yugoslavia.
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>>114425
>Bernie's voted in favor of every gun ban and restriction that's ever crossed his desk.
That's demonstrably untrue.
He's vote for too many gun control measures for me to trust him, but he's hardly voted for all of them. By liberal Democrat standards he's practically a gun nut.
Still, Jim Webb is much better on that issue if you happen to be a registered Democrat in an early primary state.
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>>114431
>conflating socialism with communism
0/10
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>>114435
>By liberal Democrat standards he's practically a gun nut.
He voted against the Brady Bill.That being said, he still agreed with it's goals.He just thought the states could handle the provisions outlined in it better that the federal government.Faint praise indeed.
He voted in favor of the AWB, expanded background checks and is in favor banning semi-automatic weapons and of a national firearms registry in spite of the fact that IT WOULD NOT IMPACT CRIME OR CRIMINALS ONE IOTA.
Fucks sake Canada had a registry for years and it did fuckall beyond costing a lot of money for no measurable return.
They scrapped it for a reason.
That's right CANADA SCRAPPED IT'S NATIONAL GUN REGISTRY SCHEME BECAUSE IT DOES NOT WORK.
Jim Webb's okay, but he's got a bishop's chance in Hell of getting nominated.
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>>114447
>Jim Webb's okay, but he's got a bishop's chance in Hell of getting nominated.
That's exactly what people were saying about Bernie a few months ago.
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>>114460
Guy can't even handle a few crazy fucks with a hashtag, the fuck is he going to do when an actual billion dollar ceo or dictator with an urge to genocide starts trying to tell him what to do?
If you act weak, you are weak. Look at that poor bastard, waiting his turn to get his mic back. Fucking pathetic. You'd have to be insane to want this guy in charge of nation.
What's he going to do when the next terrorist decides to shoot up a place or bomb it? Ask them to apologize?
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>>105604
Why did you remove the quote?
"I WILL MAKE ANIME REAL!
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>>105604
Is this sad cuck still going?
Getting kicked off of his own stage by two sheboons should be humiliating enough for anybody to get out of the public's eye for a while…
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>>116063
hes being tolerant and his campaign got vibrant
hes enriched now
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>>105816
Except no one wants to pay your ass for doing that job. Which is why no one gets hired.
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>>105608
>TFW two jobs
>Still literally can't afford to live in the same town as them
>Both employers intentionally try keep from giving benefits
>Cut all expenses to living bare minimum
>Can't seriously save money fast enough for any real investments
On the bright side I've been sober since I moved out of home, though not for the reasons I'd like.
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>>105608
>Things that a Republican says
I lol'd
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>>116618
>>116618
>struggling in life
>happy to be sober
You are a worthless drug addict
No wonder no worth a shit one wants to hire you
Because you're not worth a shit
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>>116637
>a worthless drug addict
>Happy to be sober
>drug addict
He obviously recovered.
You're a fucking faggot.
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>>116642
You've never been to a meeting I see. In the cult of substance abuse treatment people are considered lifelong addicts no matter what they do so they can keep them paying dues and shelling out for SSRIs indefinitely. In fact, you can even be an "addict" without even ever having used any sort of illegal or prescription drugs.
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>>116070
It's funny; after that he's gone from saying that racial issues are "not my cup of tea" to saying that he intends to end systematic racism.
No.118250
We've heard this bullshit before from people like Sanders, and it can be summed up in three words: TRICKLE. UP. POVERTY.
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>>105646
She has no chance.
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>>105604
I want reddit to go home. /v/ is the cancer.