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2014 2ch takeover incident
-In 2012 the rights to 2ch were given to Jim at Racequeen Inc. Hiroyuki announces he is no longer the admin of 2ch, but still remains the defacto admin behind the curtains .
-2ch ran a service where anons payed approx 35 US dollars so they could post on 2ch if they were banned or couldn’t post because of their ISP (similar to the 4chan pass)
-this service helped pay for the server fees
-August 2013, the service gets hacked. Those who registered to the service had their names, address, credit card numbers/security codes leaked. comment info was also leaked, people were able to search the 2ch archives and find out who posted what using the leaked comment info.
-It was also discovered that Hiroyuki was sending other personal info of posters to companies outside of 2ch.net
-After the hacking incident Hiroyuki is unable to pay for the server fees because the 2ch pass service was shutdown.
-On April Fools day Hiroyuki announces that 2ch is being taken over.
-The leader of the coup Jim fires the janitors, sizes down operations, upgrade the servers, and improve other things to accommodate the anons who were neglected under the Hiryoku administration.
-Jim becomes the new admin of 2ch.net
-Hiroyuki retaliates by creating a new anonymous message board 2ch.sc. 2ch.sc is just a clone of 2ch.net. It literally copies and pastes all the posts on 2ch.net to its message boards.
2ch.sc allows thread simulator blogging (copy paste blogs) which have been a problem in the past and were outlawed on 2ch.net
Why did hiroyuki create 2ch.sc ?
Hiroyuki (Mirai Kensaku Brazil) had signed a contract with a data mining company named Hotlink and sold them the personal data / user comments from 2ch.net.
-After the server take over by Jim, and the fact that Hiroyuki no longer had the rights to 2ch.net, he was no longer able to give the data mining company the data, so he created the clone 2ch.sc to fulfill Hotlinks contract.
-Since it wasn’t a contract with Racequeen (Jim) , Jim stops the servers from sending the user comment data and other personal info to hotlinks servers. He also prevents hiroyuki’s 2ch.sc from copying comments by blocking its requests.
-Anons of 2ch discovers that Hiroyuki also had money ties with the thread simulator bloggers who were racking thousands from PPC ads and advertising by laundering comments from 2ch.
-Anons of 2ch find out about Hiroyuki’s gf who is helping hiroyuki to launder large sums of money with an offshore account.
Why the anons of 2ch were mad at the Hiroyuki Administration
1) when 2ch.net was hacked, he didn’t take measures to protect the user data and reveal why he was storing personal information.
2) Sending personal info and post related content from 2ch loaded the servers and made 2ch inconvinenent. Servers would often crash, and posting limits were made to compensate
3) The Mods regularly held mass banning campaigns. This was so more users would be lead to buy a 2ch pass.
4) Hiroyuki was collecting/sending personal info from posts
In contrast , The Jim administration upgraded the servers, there were less bannings, and he regularly answers/hears requests from the 2ch users. There has been no opposition to the Jim administration so far.
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No.5
Source: Unknown. Taken from an anonymous pastebin.
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No.144
"There has been no opposition to the Jim administration so far."
Exceptional claims require proof.
No.236
would b interested in more backstory 2 this
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No.256
comic
No.257
>>256What a hilarious mess.
Do you have a blog for the board or something? I think it would be better suited for this project.
No.261
>>257>blogging>about a community torn apart by blogsI think an open Wikibook history textbook would be a better format. Everybody can edit (instead of just one person), and we can cite all sources.
I just happen to be putting one together, with loads of nostalgic information about 2001-2004 (but very little about modern 2ch). Get in here
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/2ch_Chronicle No.263
>>261I made a pretty dumb post, I forgot completely about the sticky.
I'll check out your wikibook.
No.282
That is an interesting read, thanks for that.
No.283
>>257I chose the imageboard format because I want to have anyone contribute threads and comments. Also I like being able to come back and revisit topics as they develop. A wiki is less accessable to everyone and is not chronological, so new updates are hard to find.
No.286
>>283There's nothing wrong with imageboard discussion. The Wikibook is meant to *complement* our work on this thread, not replace it.
Look at it this way. The book is the finished product, and the discussion board is the workroom where we do our research and submit new info. It's not one or the other.
Also, we are putting together a chronological timeline here. We can also have a changelog page at the top. Yes, a wiki can be chronologically focused.
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/2ch_Chronicle/2ch_History_Timeline No.287
>>283I can update the 2ch Chronicle wikibook on my own, whenever new information is posted here.
You guys won't have to change the way you do things, I'll just be recording it. And that's important, especially since threads will eventually be pruned, and who knows, 8ch might not even exist in the near future.
No.820
>>261
Just have a general thread or if something bigger is needed, a separate board for general discussions.
As for resulting documentation, these days, MediaWiki style wikis (https://encyclopediadramatica.se) and Git wikis (https://github.com/bibanon/bibanon/wiki) are pretty much the norm for these things.
No.824
>>820
What a coincidence, we (the organizers of this 2ch Wikibook) made the Bibliotheca Anonoma. I specifically chose to use the Wikibook for 2ch's History, since it is actually quite freewheeling and non-partisan.
Yes, we probably might build and manage our own textboard to look further into 2ch. In particular, the Core Team is documenting and scraping old 2ch flash movies here (tons of interesting treasures): https://trello.com/c/dhG2ek8B/96-2ch-flash
However, the issue is more about finding people who know both English and Japanese, and are willing to volunteer their time. Most of the time, our Core Team are the only people left in the end…
No.828
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No.832
>Hiroyuki LITERALLY owns cuckchan now
https://archive.is/fR94K
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No.835
>>833
How is cuckchan even reacting to this at the moment? Has anyone gotten banned yet for pointing out how bad this is?
No.836
>>835
At first they were celebrating but now it seems like they're shitting a brick
No.837
>>835
They seem to be actively retarded about it.
They also are confusing 2ch with 2chan.
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No.839
>>836
man intl made a big shit about this 2ch owner drama.
now 4chan got the faggot that created this mess to begin with.
they lost hard, and the user on 4chan are as good as doxed.
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>>837
As with everthing that goes on in their site's administration, they'll blissfully unaware.
I can't particularly lay any blame though as I only learned about this controversy approximately a year ago, and had my mind blown open when I did. Sometimes it's hard to believe things like this can even happen, right under your nose, when they're underreported.
Most people don't even realize that there are two 2chans, and that Nishimura's is a clone made to profit off his users.
The best thing we can do is spread the news and maybe open more 4channers' eyes to the truth.
They are probably more fucked than they were under moot.
No.846
>>837
There are a bunch of people trying to warn the others but they're having none of it
No.847
I'd just like to say that the irony in this is fucking delicious.
Halfchan users' anonymity is as good as gone.
No.849
>>847
It's funny because moot openly celebrates Nishimura as the pioneer of anonymous communities despite the history that proceeds him.
No.850
http://fox.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1442845750/
2 well uh…
3 well isn't this alright looks like the gooks lose again
5 it's finally happened this is the news i was scared of the most
6 aaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha
14 [ascii art of hiroyuki pictured] http://puu.sh/kj7bh/dc609fc2de.png for the average salary man that works from 20 to 50 years old… his entire lifetimes taxes, i paid far more than that last year
15 seriously? what is his intention?
16 hurry up and die already, beggar
17 its over
20 so he wasn't satisfied with his fake 2ch, but he wants to make his own empire now?
21 ok guys lets migrate to 4chan now :)
23 how is he going to make a profit from this?
26 paid access will be inevitable
27 nishimura banzai!
29 why 4chan and not futaba? what can he even do with that site?
30 those 4chan guys will definitely revolt
36 dreadful….
37 didn't a lot of guys from 4chan already move to 8chan?
38 was sc (fake 2ch) not profitable enough?
39 if he has enough money to buy 4chan, then he has enough money to pay reimbursement
42 why is he still alive? hurry up and dissapear
43 theyll be finished if anonymous attacks
44 foreigners wont forgive you
46 isnt he aiming for JIMfag?
47 so he had money after all. this is disturbing
50 2chans administrator is a american
and 4chans is a japanese huh
51 ITS TRUE. I LAUGHED WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
55 so what happened to his two million dollar debt?
57so will he enact more rules like in 2ch? or will he learn his lession and leave it alone
59 stop fucking around! give me back my 4chan!!
No.851
>>850
I love how the japanese users on 2ch are laughing their asses off.
No.852
>>850
>those 4chan guys will definitely revolt
If he knew the kind of shit we've been putting up with
No.853
>>850
The ride never ends.
No.854
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No.855
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>>850
>that 2ch thread
>control+f "8chan"
>17 results
Shit, I didn't know the Nips knew about us.
No.856
>>855
There are links to 8chan on 2ch, on account of the 8ch-2ch partnership.
No.857
>>855
8ch is 2ch's international branch. It has been like this ever since Hotwheels moved the site from the old domain and onto Jim's servers.
No.861
So we don't know if it's true that the guy was deleting posts criticizing certain companies etc.
Is it true that he was selling users' informations though?
No.863
>>855
try to control+f "8ch"
you get 27 results
No.864
>>855
Of course, we share servers and they likely knew about the DDoS attacks earlier this year…
>>858
It sounds like Kenji Inafune with Mighty No 9…
No.865
Frankly anyone who willingly gave their credit card information to jewt deserves everything they get.
No.866
>>865
How long would credit card info be held on to? I bought one back in spring 2013, but never bought a new one once it expired.
No.868
>>866
What makes you think they don't permanently store it?
No.869
>>866
They probably permanently stored it. Considering the new owner has a history of selling user data, you should consider it compromised.
No.870
>The leak included credit-card security codes, which are not supposed to be stored on the seller’s side.
Ha! If you bought a 4chan pass you're fucked.
No.871
So, that thing with moot asking for all his mods and janitors private info, now it's pretty clear why he did that.
I bet he gave it all to this fucker. I bet he asked moot to collect the doc in the first place.
No.872
>>870
>not paying in Bitcoin
Cryptocurrency supporters can be retarded and irrational, but this is literally the use case it was designed for.
No.873
>>850
>51 ITS TRUE. I LAUGHED WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
I have to admit, that cracked me up.
No.874
>>824
Why didn't you scrape Shii's site entirely before it died?
Are there any mirrors at all out there?
No.875
There is apparently an archive of stories posted by some 2ch users.
http://vgperson.com/talesof2ch.htm
Translated, of course, but hosted on Tumblr of all places. Ask her if you want to host it somewhere else, I'm just happy she hosts Touhou Mother, its sequel and translation patches.
No.876
>>872
or not be a retard and use a prepaid credit card lol
No.877
>>874
the only thing of real note was his post on anonymous
he hosted like a personal wiki and iirc had some stuff regarding the old SA fansub group.
im sure he has a copy of everything tho if you want to email him
No.878
>>876
>prepaid credit card
>paying extra to stay anonymous
>bitcoins
>don't pay extra to stay anonymous
No.879
>>857
We aren't a BBS, though, we're an imageboard. For us to be truly 8ch, we must have textboard where Japs are more comfortable
No.880
>>877
He had old copypasta and stories that even ED doesn't have.
No.881
>>874
>>877
We archived Shii's entire Wiki. It was a major inspiration for our efforts, we couldn't let it just die.
http://shii.bibanon.org
No.882
This is too good.
>luggage lad always looked up to 2ch as a kid
>gives up on his own principles to stab his users in the back
>the exiles form a partnership with 2ch expat american owner, who previously kicked out Nishimura for selling user data
>luggage lad sells 4chan
>to Nishimura
You couldn't fucking make this shit up if you tried
No.883
>>881
My God. Thank you, friend. I've missed that site for too long. So much rich history there. Bookmarked and saved on 3 thumb drives.
Would you happen to have a zipped archive I can at least rehost on my site?
No.884
>>881
Shit, I've known of Shii, but I never knew of his sites.
What was his site after Shii, though?
No.885
>>884
He closed it.
http://shii.org/knows/
The main page now redirects to Project Gutenburg.
No.886
>>885
No, he mentioned setting up another blog under his real name.
That's what I was asking for.
No.887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsyoK02F27E
anti jim conspiracy theory here.
anyone here got a refutation?
No.888
>>887
Yeah, it's called where's the actual evidence that Watkins was ever working together with Nishimura when he was selling 2ch user information. Present some, and maybe I'll take the claim seriously.
No.889
>>888
I think the video is dumb, just bringing it to peoples attention.
No.890
>>887
Unless there is any substantial evidence against Jim, there is nothing but vague suspicions.
Plus, Internet Aristocrat has been salty about GG and 8chan ever since his fuckup and falling out.
No.891
>>834
>>842
What exactly is the story here? I need context. What are these guys at together? Why is ZUN of all people there?
No.892
>>890
He's saying the video is a troll.
No.893
>>892
>i was only le acting retarded
No.894
>>850
>theyll be finished if anonymous attacks
Ah sweet naivety.
No.895
>>840
>them trying to justify it when they know they're fucked
All of the vehement denial a year ago and now half of them are trying to find an alternative image board.
Goddamn this shit's hilarious.
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>>850
>59 stop fucking around! give me back my 4chan!!
fucking lol'd
>>895
the ones looking for an alternate imageboard are probably summerfags who werent around/paying attention during goobergate and the exodus. the rest who are staying put likely were around but are equally ignorant nontheless.
anyone ive met who still goes there dont even know or care about what happened at 4chan when gamergate broke out. nor do they know that what happened affects a lot of what goes on there today. perhaps fittingly they are all /b/tards who dont visit any other board.
ignorance is bliss i suppose.
No.897
Holy shit!?! Does this mean that the East has successfully conquered the West?
No.898
>Japan removes nonagression restrictions
>Japan acquires 4Chan 2 days later
ITS PEARL HARBOR ALL OVER AGAIN BOYS
No.899
>>897
>Does this mean that the East has successfully conquered the West?
What about the fact that an american(Jim) owns 2ch.net
No.900
>>899
That just means that the West conquered the East as well.
No.901
>>840
Goddamn, that board declined so hard.
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No.904
>>892
What was the point of making it then?
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No.906
>>902
That's shitty, but I doubt that it has anything to do with the new administration, and it's likely that the same would have happened on 8chan if they sent a DMCA takedown request.
No.907
Anyone else find it funny they keep calling us cripplechan? 8chan has so many more features than 4chan at this point that it's embarrassing.
No.908
>>907
"They" see the extra features as Reddit creeping in and destroying their pure imageboard experience.
No.909
>>908
I sure hope they were saying that when Moot added WebM support too.
No.910
>>907
I think it has more to do with the fact that our admin is a literal cripple
No.912
>>907
I find it more funny that they actually associate us with reddit.
>>887
Watching now, but I see no way that 8ch could turn a profit without resorting to Nishimura-grade tactics.
No.913
>>906
No, look at the posts >>903
It was a false DMCA request. just a photo of several pages of a book. HW would've just laughed at this.
No.914
>>913
Isn't content from a copyrighted work exactly the kind of thing DMCA requests are for?
No.915
>>914
Sure, if it was a full scan of the book. This are just photographs of some pages of the book. Amazon reviews have the same shit, for example.
I'm more impressed that somebody from LEGO cared enough to browse /toy/ and send DMCAs for this. This is some of the pettiest shit I've ever seen. Unless it's some faggot mod who was just deleting shit because he overcooked his hotpocket.
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No.917
>they actually bought a 4chan pass
>they're actually celebrating the man that fucked 2ch over
>167
>●導入して個人情報流出して逃走して4chan.scを作るんでしょ
>4chan.sc
I cannot contain my smug. They are so fucked.
No.919
>>918
He's either self-aware at this point or he's really fucking clueless, holy shit
No.920
Bunbunmaru sports section editing Tengu here. Remember to thank our povertybros for the info they have provided and if they are being bullied apologize for Hiroyuki's English language hit squad picking on them. They are going to get picked on a lot in the next few days for stating the truth.
No.921
What't the name of the lawyer 2ch anons meme all the time? Isn't he suing Hiroyuki now on behalf of those whose personal info Hiro sold?
No.922
>>921
He's been sued already so much, I got no idea.
Also he says he sues Jim in november.
No.923
>>879
There actually are some boards on here with textboard like themes, complete with widetext.
No.924
>>923
You mean, like this very board?
Now that I think about it, it could very well be a textboard with images.
No.925
>>923
I didn't mean /newspaper/, but some of the other boards. Check out /videogames/, very minimal amount of images.
No.927
>>925
Well, that actually makes sense.
I like the CSS, I'll steal it if I want to make a discussion-focused board.
No.928
hey what's the diff between futaba and 2ch? are they like 4chan and 8chan in difference? I know 2ch is mainly a BBS and futaba is imgboard, but why are they diff sites but same name? Do 2ch users use futaba for posting images or do they have bad relationship?
No.929
>>928
Jesus Christ. It takes a minute maximum to write them down in some search engine and read what they are about.
No.930
>>928
2chan.net (futaba channel) is the imageboard that inspired 4chan. As far as i know, it has no connection to 2ch.net (2channel)
No.931
>>930
I think there were stability issues with 2ch, some anons were afraid it will close, so they set up 2chan as alternative. It caught on. Not nearly as big as 2ch or 4chan.
No.937
And secretly 2ch.sc in particular.
https://www.2ch.net/matome.html
No.939
>>937
How is 2ch reacting to this?
I imagine there's a positive reaction to this:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/2ch_Chronicle/Anti-Matome_Blog_Movement
No.944
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>939
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/2ch_Chronicle#The_2ch_Diaspora
>However, the community has long since left the site and searched for better places. The diaspora can be roughly divided into two groups: One branch that tries to preserve the traditions of 2ch's pseudoanonymous discussions, and one that has dispensed with the concept entirely and moved on to Twitter and other conventional Japanese Social Networks.
>2ch.net - Still maintained by Jim Watkins of N.T. Technology and 2ch.net. All text thread archives are still stored here. A few stalwart individuals have returned to the ruins of 2channel, and scrape together what they can to form a few discussions.
According to Jim in his new video with Hotwheels, 2channel is back on top of Japanese internet food chain
No.945
>2channel is back on top of Japanese internet food chain
Good. I'd be sad if 2ch one day died.
No.952
>>909
Halfchan WebMs can't have sound so that doesn't count :^)
No.962
>>884
>>885
is yukkuri.shii.org related to him, or just hosted on his domain/server?