/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

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WUZ

>>4766943

I'm posting this at every opportunity:

Everyone here,

Read March of the Titans by Arthur Kemp

>>4766963

Tell me what it is.

>>4766952

>>4766957

SAIZARS

It's fucking pathetic that germs tried to steal away everything noble and good of the world.

inb4 the japs were also nordic/germanic

>>4766970

>>4766957

>>4766952

It's not necessary to shit up threads.

>>4766974

Germs already have a proud history.

They don't need to act like niggers trying to hijack the history of others.

"WE WUZ CAESARS AND SHIT!"

>>4766975

This is a shit thread.

>>4766983

Funny the germs did try to hijack that i.e. Kaiser.

Too bad the german kaiser has lesser influence than the British king.

>>4766988

Yes, but posting trash isn't going to help it, nor does it prevent the thread from making the claim.

>>4766963

Got the pdf?

1. lol no

2. modern Italians have higher IQ than both the Germans and the Scandinavians

Sorry if I hurt your poor Aryan feelings lol.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

>Romans

>Nordic

>Not Mediterranean shits that bent the knee to the early Christian Jew

Imperium please.

>>4767010

Trash is fitting for a trash thread.

>>4767029

>Romans were shit

>ancient Nordics is where it was at!

Unfortunately, this is what paganfags actually believe.

>>4767045

To be frank, the pagan Roman were the greatest.

>>4767045

>The only paganfags were Norse Pagans

I've never seen a paganfag invoking Zeus/Jupiter and the Olympians on /pol/.

>>4767045

Romans weren't shit, the Caesars were shit. Not only that, Did I say anywhere that ancient Nordics were better than Romans? No. I said they were just pansies that bent the knee to an (at the time) Jewish religion.

Fucking Germanfags

>The force that eventually destroyed the Roman Empire also created it :^) Forces of life and death, like two bookends, like poetry it rhymes

You Germans have been ok recently but for the longest time you were the niggers of Europe, mud huts and all. And if you pull this

WE WUZ SEEZARS

shit you'll be niggers again.

>>4767065

>The Caesars were shit

Marcus Aurelius was shit? Go to bed Hermann.

>>4767062

Since Hitler only invoked the viking pagan imagery.

The Roman military only developed as an effective fighting force after it came up against the Gaulish/Celtic armies in the 4th century BC and Rome was sacked. At that time the 'Celtic' war-bands were Europe's premier fighting force and were effectively acting like a highly mobile conquering army or armies drawn from men from all over northern Europe. If you thought the Vikings were fearsome, these guys were even more dank, and religiously fanatical. They invaded Greece and killed the Macedonian king and sacked the main Hellenistic religious center at Delphi, mopping up the armies of Alexander the Great's homeland. Although culturally defeated in West Europe through the efforts of Julius Caesar, Augustus and Claudius etc, the remnants of this culture survived in Germania, the Danube basin, the Baltic regions and Scandinavia, eventually re-organizing as the Goths who smashed Roman Imperial control of western Europa in the 4th/5th century AD, and ushering in the medieval period of development. The ascendance of Celtic Irish culture within the literary revolution of early Christianity through north Europe, and the military might of the Franks consolidated the north European identity.

>>4767249

WE

WUZ

CELTS

WE WUZ ROMANS AND SHIET

>>4766943

>not knowing about Atlantean theory

killyourself OP

>>4767133

I'll maybe check it out.

>>4766943

>1860s

>1930s

Nice sources, OP. This time period saw the English-speaking world jam-packed full of Germaboos who basically wanted to prove that Germans were the greatest people in history and that the English and French were actually Germans and not Celts so they could feel superior to those silly slav/med/irish animals. It's basically a combination of historic D&C/we-wuz-kangs bullshit.

>>4766943

====SSSSHHHHIIEEEEEETTTTTTTT WE WUZ EMPERORZ AN SHIEEETTTTTTT=

filthy cucks trying to take credit for everything

>>4767332

This.

Also, good trivia: Did you know that that the areas of North-Africa coastline were, during the Roman period, fertile and green land, thanks to the effort of romans and planting fertilizing plants and trees.?

But then the muslisms came and burned the trees and plants.

The more you know!

>>4767349

Eat more of that shit you are already eating ;^)

>>4767360

Arabs will try to make more deserts because deserts are sacred or some shit.

>>4767364

> Being Butthurt

:^)

>>4767353

Is it really so bad to find reasons for the earth really being "ours" by inheritance?

>>4767398

>And giving said inheritance to 'fugees.

>>4766963

I read that many years ago. It's pseudoscience/pseudohistory full of BS. The author is a Nordicist who thinks that all achievements of the white race were done by blonde haired, blue eyed Vikings and all other Europeans are inferior and aren't even really white despite all evidence to the contrary.

Nordicists are divide and conquer shills who wish to turn white people against each other.

>>4767424

Aren't ALL Indo-Europeans genetically similar?

An Olive Skin med and a blonde Nord have a lot more in common than what was thought.

The European race is the most diverse race as Europids can come in different varieties.

Shitskins and other lesser races envy that because they look more or less the same.

As an Italian, I don't really care either way. Whether I'm 'white' enough for you guys is of little concern, we share a common enemy.

We can squabble about most-whitest races later

INB4 THIS THREAD DEVOLVES INTO BRIT/FRENCH/GERMAN D&C SHIT

You are literally talking about tribes of people that spanned the entirety of Europe who would fight even their cousin tribes across the river despite speaking the same language.

Its stupid to hold nationalist bias towards these people because the sheer concept of nation did not exist back then.

Hell, not even modern ethnicities existed back then.

Also,the only difference between Celts and Germans was (unwritten) language and mythology.And this doesnt amount to much when both Germans and Celts fused into the amalgamation that was the Greco-Roman empire.

If you want to fight about ethnicity,look at events that happened past 500 AD.

>>4767507

> the sheer concept of nation did not exist back then.

modern germanics only came into europe far after rome was established

>>4767468

>>4767524

If you think the celts thought of themselves as british or the swabians thought of themselves as german or the troyans thought of themselves as greeks ,you need to read up on history.

Back then people didnt care about "this abstract concept that involves this broader group of people with similar history and characteristics to me".

They were too busy trying to hunt boars and not get Typhus.

>>4767404

>older than wikipedia

>just copy pastes from wikipedia

Superior White time travelling technology strikes again!

>>4767584

To the ancients, a nation is practically a conglomerate of tribes with a similar background.

They had nations, just not in the same name and aspect as now.

The concept of nation is a modern one, based on modern map and politics.

Back then the Bavarian don't even think they belong to Germania, in the same way a frenchman doesn't think he's a german.

FFS…

Romans were not fucking nordic. The only people who were nordic in the 6th century BC were the norse.

They've done archaeological DNA comparisons much more recently than the sources you cite there. Romans and Etruscans share most of their heritage with the Greeks. They're a melting pot of Etruscan, Phoenician and Greek DNA. Which is to vastly over simplify it given the limited phenotypes around the Mediterranean as far back as we can actually acquire any DNA.

Blonde hair was no uncommon amongst the Greeks and Phoenicians. It wasn't even that uncommon amongst Persians at the time. A twin pronged migration of Ethiopian shitskins and kebabs from beyond the Hindu Kush are to blame for the dusty skin you get infecting the region over 1000 years.

>a 1650 sculpture represents Roman's race

k stormweenie

>>4767528

nope, that's not true. Germanic peoples were known to the ancient Greeks. Alexander encountered Getae and Bastaernae. The Getae were slavs but lived right next door to German tribes, and it's exceptionally likely the Bastaernae were in fact wholly ethnically German.

Germans had raided celtic tribes along both sides of the alps for hundreds of years prior to the forming of the Republic. In fact periodic migratory tensions caused by those raids are cited by Plutarch as one of the reasons for the legendary king's decline.

>>4767636

Almost half-right, as always, /pol/.

"Nation" has historically meant what we today would call "ethnicity". The term "nation-state" referred to the geographic region controlled by a single ethnicity organized under a single political entity. Today, we use terms like nation, state, country, etc. interchangeably, because in terms of geopolitics, they used to be interchangeable - back before present-day Germans unified into Germany, before Sweden allowed hordes of immigrants to call themselves Swedes, and so on.

>>4767707

Point is Germania was mixed to hell and back and wasn't controlled by a single ethnicity, you have celts, germanics, slavs and even asiatics (huns) running around the place.

>>4767437

"Celts were a culture not a race" - Varg Vikernes

>>4767360

that is not the reason why at all. North Western Africa was only mildly more fertile prior to the period of massive global climate change that begins around the 4th century AD. The main reason the region returned to desert was the Carthagnian and later Roman aquaducts and irrigatory channels fell into disrepair under the vandalic kings.

>>4767349

> Who is Tacitus

> What is Germania?

Fuckin pleb-tier idiot.

>>4767740

Tacitus was the one of the renown germanboos and had a noble savage fascination to the germans.

Still, he equated their gods to Greco-roman gods.

>>4767476

Underrated post. Damn nigger tier we wuz kings and shit bickering.

>>4767468

More or less. Each European people is adapted to it's climate and all originated from a common ancestor from the Caucasus region. Some of these Caucasians spread to the sunny Med regions and developed olive skin in response to the high UV levels. Some spread North and developed lighter features to adapt the lower light levels. So all full descendents of these original Caucasians are equally "White", whether it's a blonde haired Swede or a brown eyed/dark haired Spaniard.

>>4767711

>Were the Phoenecians the real jews of the time?

They were as semites related to jews.

But unlike Jews, that kept their identity and remain separate from the people of their host countries, the Phoenicians assimilated with the various surrounding populations (Greek, Hebrew, Roman, Persian, ect.) and no longer exist as a people due to the consequence.

>>4767711

no jews really were still the jews of the time. Phoenecians are less a single ethnic or cultural group and more a group of kingdoms with a shared interest in ocean trade, and several shared languages. Aramaic, for example, is one of many Phoenecian trade languages. Except for a couple of brief periods in the 8th century and under Carthage's kings, Phoenecians would not have self identified or had any national identity. They were also highly mobile, which is why they're one of the most common shared genetic ancestors today. Their DNA is found everywhere from North Africa to the Hindu Kush. They are actually a pretty amazing civilisation and the earliest precursor to modern corporate globalisation.

>>4767778

they were not related to jews at all. Semites are not an ethnic group. They're a whole mess of different people who share languages. They all predate Judaism by literally thousands of years. Jews are semites, it doesn't always work the other way around.

>>4767850

I see.

I always hear shit about semites, but I guess these days that only applies to Jews and Arabs.

>ROMANS LOOKED LIKE THIS STATUE WE FOUND

>WE LOOK LIKE THE PEOPLE IN THE MAGAZINES AND MOVIES

YOU WOULDNT PUT A PIC OF A FAT FUCK IN YOUR MAG WOULDNT YOU

NOBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT FAT AND UGLY PEOPLE

>>4767873

even not all arabs are even semites. On the Arabian peninsula, yes. But much of what we'd call today 'Arab' regions were once a melting pot of cultures, including Celts. The Galatians migrated to Anatolia, and spread all over. Ptolmey had a shit tonne of them in his court at Alexandria.

>twins born

>different personalities

>different interests

>different

BUT MUH GENETICCCCCSSSSssssssssss

It makes sense. In many cases throughout history the ruling class is genetically separate from those they rule.

Rome's masses were pretty much the italians we know today, but the patricians probably shared a lot more in common with celtic/germanic peoples.

>>4767892

>>4767918

Could you please stop? It makes you look retarded.

You don't have to agree with OP but at least try to convey your point like your IQ is bigger than your shoe size.

>>4768028

This shit is fucking retarded in the first place.

It's the same as saying the european nobility was secretly black all along.

>>4768028

there was enough upward (and downward) social mobility in the roman republic that even if the first 100 or so senatorial families were in any way genetically different, that would have been irrelevant a few generations in. They frequently married plebs. Plebs were frequently elevated to patrician status, and by the empire's fall, so many plebs had been made patricians it was basically just a cognomen, nothing more.

If anything, the early patricians would have been either Greek or Etruscan.

>>4768028

Faggot they were at war with the Gauls and were even sacked by them in 300 BC. Even the North of Italy was inhabited by Gauls.

At least bring some evidence to the table instead of your feelz.

should just point out as well - there is a prehistorical people native to the Italian peninsula contemporaneous with Celtic Halsdatt culture and German Jastorff culture.

The Halsdatts and the Jastorffs are so far north it beggars belief they would have settled Italy themselves, and the time frames simply aren't long enough for any kind of physical changes in an entire ethnicity to occur. That means the Nuragic Sardinians, Italy's original inhabitants, are likely their own race, and Romans and Etruscans, their descendants.

>>4767404

Can you give a better book then, or books?

About the history of the white race.

>>4767349

It wasn't Germanics that ruined Rome, it was the Jews. You should read up on what the different emperors said about the Jews living inside the empire.

"They possess great power and wealth through their unions" and whatnot

You can bet your ass the kikes back then opened Romes borders and spread tons of subversive agendas and ideas to the masses.

>>4768133

well to the Italians immense discredit, they were occupied by an Islamic emirate in the 9th century, hence the tan. German genetics are a fucking pig sty anyway, so called 'aryan' blood most likely describes a very narrow norse phenotype.

I bet most white nationalists could even identify where ancient germania actually was on a map any way.

>>4768133

>posts pic of Hitler who looks dago

Germans were ALL originally red-haired though so you got some problems explaining that.

>>4767501

You know, statistically Germany has contributed more to human achievement than any other country in history. After that Britain, France and USA.

Italy, not so much. Pretty far below on the list.

>>4768164

everyone hated jews. This is absolutely correct. They did absolutely nothing to ruin the empire though. Apart from a handful of revoluts and establishing their own kingdom near modern day Saudi Arabia they were pretty irrelevant to antiquity.

>>4768028

>Rome's masses were pretty much the italians we know today, but the patricians probably shared a lot more in common with celtic/germanic peoples.

Nope, the romans actually describled the nordic barbarians when they met them, and noted how different they were. We have accounts of how they looked weird and goofy to the romans, since the romans didn't give any particular value to height and in fact thought it was more of a problem than a strenght based on their techniques in war. We have plenty of descriptions like this, and over time from authors complaining on the lack of integration from the "former" barbarians.

Centuries later, the eastern roman empire still considered the current europeans the descendants of the barbarians, and called them Celts or Franks when they met them during the crusades. They didn't consider even for one minute that they could be in any way related to the fallen western empire.

Last but not least, don't copy niggers. Don't start inserting white people into every relevant place in history, because it makes you look as retarded as niggers going for we wuz kings and sheeit.

>>4768182

the Romans contributed quite a bit… actually, pretty much all civilisation owes them a serious debt.

>>4768182

>You know, statistically Germany has contributed more to human achievement than any other country in history. After that Britain, France and USA.

Proof?

>>4768055

The british royal family is german.

The egyptian pharaos were largely of european stock.

Genghis Khan is reported to have green eyes and red hair.

None of these are an absolute truth, but there is a lot more going in ruling dynamics than you think.

>>4768066

I agree with everything except your end conclusion.

The Greek influence was limited during the early Republic, and etruscans were marginalized after the kingdom fell.

Of course I'm not denying there were some patricians of Greek/Etruscan descent.

>>4768071

>Faggot

Rome's history doesn't start from 300 B.C. though.

And the easy with which the city was sacked several times tells of the earlier precedent. It's not illogical to think that after such sack the Celtics would settle/rule. They did it in Galatia

Byzantium>Rome

>>4768188

in Tacitus, Plutarch, and Cicero one of the interesting things is they remark strongly upon tribes and cultures who appeared to have a uniform appearance, suggesting strongly this was quiet alien to them, and intimating that Romans were an exceptionally diverse people.

>>4768188

>the romans didn't give any particular value to height and in fact thought it was more of a problem than a strenght based on their techniques in war

LOL Roman manlets, when will they learn?

>>4768209

>Genghis Khan is reported to have green eyes and red hair.

Jesus fuck, you germs are really nigger tier.

>>4767476

Of course Italians are white. I don't think anyone in this thread or in the Europe for Europeans movement thinks you're not whites. We want Italy to remain Italian.

I just think there is something to this theory, since it is a known fact that a hefty proportion of Roman population was blonde haired and blue eyed.

Either way, Rome was multicultural. There was tons of different races and tribes living in it, which is no surprise since it was the largest empire of its time.

>>4768028

>like your IQ is bigger than your shoe size

oh come on now

do you think all ancient greeks had small penises, just because the statues have small penises?

>>4768209

see this is an easy way to test the hypothesis - celts settled in Galatia and yet, they did not radically change the phenotypes of asia minor.

so either celts settling in italy didn't either, or, the existing people were already similar enough that you simply wouldn't notice.

>>4768221

Romanlets :^)

>>4768215

Well of course but you're dealing with pleb-tier 'wewuzkangs' cucks here that don't know the early Romans were a combination of Sabines, Etruscans and Romans… not to mention all the other influences.

>>4767257

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Etruria_the_Etruscans_celts.htm

>>4768233

we actually don't know that at all. We know that a lot of statues and frescos depict blonde, blue eyed romans but as another anon pointed out in less delicate terms - modern media tends only to depict attractive, thin women. Imagine the surprise of a time traveller from the far future who'd surveyed such artifacts when he comes back to find all the ham beasts wobbling around.

>>4768255

fuck what am i reading…

>>4768227

No, anti-whites like you are nigger tier. You are the nigger, with your constant anti-German anti-white nonsense.

I don't think what he said about Genghis Khan is true at all, I really doubt a Mongol had red hair and green eyes.

But it is true that ancient Egyptians were of European stock.

It has been found through DNA testing, that the most related people to ancient Egyptians are the English. As many as 70% of all English men are related to Faraoh Tutankhamon, and 50% of all western European men are.

But less than 1% of modern Egyptians are related to him, DNA tests showed.

It is also true that the British royal family is German. In fact, if the monarch of Britain would have died just before WW1, legally Germany would have inherited the whole of Britain to be part of Germany, since the next in line to be Britains monarch was Germanys ruler.

You gotta accept the fact bro, that Germanics have been all over the world, and their genes have remained in the descendants of many of these areas at least to some extent. Another example is Anatolia, used to be a fully white, Germanic area dozens of thousands of years ago.

That's not "nigger tier", that's just historical facts, and you seem a bit jealous tbh.

>>4768268

Well I don't see why they would be making statues and frescos of foreigners. Can you think of any other civilization that does that? No, people tend to make art about their own race.

Also again, Rome was multiracial and multicultural. Nobody is saying Rome did not have a significant population of dark haired Italian looking fellas. It absolutely did. Most likely the majority of the population in fact.

>>4768293

>It is also true that the British royal family is German

And for a while the british royal family was French, so what? Literally

>we wuz kings

>>4768332

No, literally you are being a total kike right now.

How are you equating the historical fact, that British royal family has been German for a couple hundred years, with the nigger lie of "we wuz kings"?

That doesn't make any sense, since Germans literally have been kings of German nations for quite long. You're not supposed to use "we wuz kings" if it's true you retarded fucking mongrel.

>>4768312

I don't even know why I'm bothering but…

What I'm saying is, Romans took the most idealised examples of themselves, and made statues out of them.

And I'm also saying, that it DIDN'T have a lot of dark haired 'italian looking fellas'. What we think of as Italian is a product of a thousand years of mediteranean migration, including the brief establishment of a caliphate. Anicent Romans were white of skin, they were genetically caucasian, THEY WERE NOT GERMAN OR CELTIC. Fuck. You can be white, and not be german. Not all white people, are german. Germans do not have a fucking monopoly on an entire haplogroup. There were numerous white skinned ethnicities that never had any contact with germans.

>>4768322

Who the hell do you think built the First Civilization? The one on whose ruins “Ancient” Egypt was built? It wasn’t brown skins.

>>4768322

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_zBVrgwkb4

>type: R1b

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b#/media/File:Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA).PNG

>>4768347

Yeah you're probably right. To my understanding though the Ottoman empire never conquered Italy. Just Sicily?

>>4768372

I don't know until I see some sources, either way.

>>4768346

>>4768376

Cool.

>>4768172

>well to the Italians immense discredit, they were occupied by an Islamic emirate in the 9th century, hence the tan

Only Sicily was occupied, you can see a sicilian in a crowd from 10 miles away.

By the way, regarding the whole "we wuz kaezar n shiet", germanics were described differently from romans, so it surely wasn't that the reason.

>>4768347

The admixture only spikes in the extreme south and sicilyt, in fact most northern regions of Italy are actually more germanized.

>>4768293

You are nigger tier because you try to insert your goddamn germans in everything that is good and noble in the world, just like niggers do.

>>4768172

>well to the Italians immense discredit, they were occupied by an Islamic emirate in the 9th century, hence the tan

Only Sicily was occupied, you can see a sicilian in a crowd from 10 miles away.

By the way, regarding the whole "we wuz kaezar n shiet", germanics were described differently from romans, so it surely wasn't that the reason.

>>4768347

The admixture only spikes in the extreme south and sicilyt, in fact most northern regions of Italy are actually more germanized.

>>4768293

>It is also true that the British royal family is German. In fact, if the monarch of Britain would have died just before WW1, legally Germany would have inherited the whole of Britain to be part of Germany, since the next in line to be Britains monarch was Germanys ruler.

And before that it was Scottish, and before that it was french.

>Anti-German = Anti-White

Alright, stop with the bait.

>>4768293

Anatolians weren't Germans "dozens of thousands of years" ago, what the fuck?

No, you're nigger tier for not understanding nobody is inserting Germans into anything, we are simply pointing out the historical, proven FACTS that Germans have been around and have created civilizations in a LOT of other places than Germania too.

You're literally a jealous nigger.

>>4767349

The Goths weren't "German". They were a Germanic tribe. The Anglish were a Germanic tribe as well. Modern Anglos are descended from Normans, Anglo-Saxons and Celts.

>>4768423

Anti-German is literally anti-white though? You're the one baiting you fucking retard. Everyone just hide this fags ID.

>>4768428

Yes they were. The haplotypes of the Anatolian region dozens of thousands of years ago were entirely Indo-European and Celtic.

lmao

WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIT

>>4768487

The back bumb in the first image is common to population with Early European admixture.

The back bump allows for better sight at night and during twilight.

>>4768450

You forget about the Lombards, they were 1 million compared to the 12 million in Italy at that time and they occupied mostly the north and parts of the south, but not the extreme one, which was occupied by the greeks, and sicily, which was soon to be occupied by the arabs.

The Northern Italians were gauls in the first place, but if you consider the Italic and "Etruscan" parts they've been Germanized.

>>4768454

>Anti-German is literally anti-white though?

No. Besides no one is being anti-German here, they're just not coping with your nigger-tier theories of "WE WUZ KANGS N SHIET"

>Everyone just hide this fags ID.

>oh no! he's disagreeing! don't listen to him!

>>4768507

It has the highest non-white admixture (+5%), it's not that high but enough to see some changes in features.

Mainland Italy has <2%, basically as much as France.

>>4768454

And since when does that equate to "Germanic"?

"Dozens of thousands of years" ago, Indo-Europeans were Indo-Europeans. Anatolian languages were the first to split from PIE, and it's probable that their genetics were among the first to split from the common IE pool as well, given that Anatolians created some of the first empires of their time around 3000 BC. It was among the first places settled in the IE migrations.

So Anatolians were Indo-Europeans, and then they were fucking Anatolians. They were absolutely white, but not Germanic. What's next, Finns are Germanic too?

>>4768340

But sometimes niggers were kings. When they quote Alessandro de Medici as a "black" member of the reinassance nobility (as in, 1/4 or 1/8 black) they are actually correct. There have been actual kings in Africa, when the Arabs brought them an hint of civilization (that of course didn't last). But the way these facts are used by them is as redarted as what people are doing here.

What you are doing is extrapolating. Muh hyperborean civilization, muh german kings in greece, rome and babylon. These threads as 100% undiluted bullshit, full of americans fascinated from the third reich who don't get germans are one of the many different white ethnicities. Also lol'd at people talking of an "italian" ethnicity when it's a country so fragmented you can find major differences in how people look like by traveling for 100 km.

Also, I would expect the ancient egyptians to be close to the ancestors of the berbers, not shitskins but not germans either. There are more ethnicities that aryan, nigger, arab and asian.

Anyways this kind of threads are like flat earth theory ones, they have a shit ton of flaws and have cherrypicked proofs which almost everytime are bad.

>>4767623

stalone is kike

>>4768182

Ancient Greece and the Roman empire contributed greatly. Do you have no knowledge of history?

>>4768526

What language do they speak again?

Besides, the Lombards were Scandinavian, not German. And the admixture is like ~10-15% at most. You don't know what Germanized means.

>>4768526

No, we're hiding your ID because you're anti-white and are engaging in D&C shilling. Being Anti-German, is 100% anti-white. It was not a question. It was a statement of fact.

>>4768293

>>4768322

haplogroups mean only that Tut had a common male ancestor in a direct male line with most Western europeans

doesn't mean he was of celtic stock.

>>4768538

If they were of the same haplogroups as Germans are, then that quite literally means we should call them ancient Germanics. Just a figure of speech. They were of the same race as Germanics, even though they never migrated all the way into the Germanian region.

It's not that complex, you'll get it if you think for a while.

>>4768541

How come every time someone talks about German achievements, you anti-white fags automatically assume it's an American? I'm not American. You know, there are 80 million Germans?

>>4768610

I didn't say he was pure European stock. But there is more truth to saying ancient Egyptian nobility and the other upper classes were of European descent. Unfortunately, it is true that race mixing was practiced in Egypt, which is what made the civilization degrade and collapse.

>>4768568

So it's not because they copied Roman values (Holy ROMAN Empire) and because they sucked the pope's(who at the time was basically always a Roman guy) dick to get the recognition?

Also the Byzantines filled the gap for 200 years before.

>>4768595

>Besides, the Lombards were Scandinavian, not German. And the admixture is like ~10-15% at most. You don't know what Germanized means.

First of all while Lombards were scandinavians it's also true that not only they could be considered "northern germanics" but also that they did travel for 400 years before reaching Italy.

>And the admixture is like ~10-15% at most. You don't know what Germanized means.

Second I didn't say "Italians are germanics", I said that Italians actually have more germanic blood than they used to, contrary to what OP claims (ROMANS were GERMANICS, agree with me or you're an ANTI-WHITE KIKE)

>WE WUZ KANGS

>>4768578

If that graph counted from 1200 I'd bet Italy would be at the same level as the others.

>>4768588

Of course they did. But we're talking in total here. Statistically, something like over 90% of human achievement in all of human history is from the big four: Germany, France, Britain and USA.

All the wonders Rome and Greece invented amount only to a few percent of all human achievement unfortunately, since their empires collapsed already thousands of years ago, and then the Ottomans came and prevented the Greeks from doing anything for quite a while, etc…

Just the truth bro.

>>4768578

You notice that doesn't even have USA in it?

I've seen another where it showed Germany as number one, Britain as two, France as third and USA as fourth.

But yeah, I never said Italy hasn't accomplished anything. Rome was fucking awesome.

Either way, the important thing we should take from all this is, the other races have contributed basically nothing to humanity in comparison to us Europeans.

>>4768653

>since their empires collapsed already thousands of years ago

>what is the Byzantine empire

Also, Byzantine history didn't start from 1453. This empire was a continuation of the Roman empire, its start being symbolically marked from transferring the capital from Rome to Byzantium (later renamed Constantinople).

>>4768568

>mixing protestant work ethics with ancient barbarians who didn't have anyhing even remotely close to roman engineering

>muh hard working nords

You sure can't into history.

>>4768623

>automatically assume it's an American?

Because american white supremacists fetishize the third reich and everything german, out of brand recognition. European nationalists are generally smart enough to see there are many different ethnicities, sometimes in the same country. Americans also like to roll up every white guy into the same ethnicity, probably becasue they had niggers around for too long and compare to them.

>>4768653

>>>> >4768578

Italy still invented Banks, Universities, navigation maps, Perspective studies, Humanism, the Scientific method, sonnets, and re-discovered a lot of stuff (western philosophy, roman architecture and literature).

I mean in the medieval ages Italy was still on the spotlight, from the pope to the reinassance.

>>4768671

OOOh so now you're backpedalling,

>"it doesn't matter what we have done we're all europeans"

when 5 minutes ago you said

>"HURR ITALY HASN'T DONE SHIT KIKE KIKE SHILL SHILL D&C (the irony)"

>>4768686

>what is the Byzantine empire getting wrecked by the Turks

As I said. It is unfortunate, but the Greek and Roman societies never quite recovered.

>>4768722

No, I was never anti-Italian in any way. I've always loved Italian history, and movies and books about ancient Rome fall into some of my favorites of all time.

Again, it's just a statistical fact that Germany has contributed more to human achievement than Italy has. And you got super butthurt about that, and went on an anti-German rant.

You're the D&C kike. This conversation could have been cool and friendly, but you had to be so anti-German. You started it.

Greeks invented Western civilization and they aren't even white.

Just stop.

>>4768737

Sure looks to me like Germany is number one on that list of achievement percentages. Thanks for proving my point, I guess?

>>4768748

They used to be white back then. The Turks forcibly race mixed with them.

>>4768508

interesting

can you tell us more, anon?

>>4768748

DEY WUZ ARABS N' SHIT

>>4766943

huzzzah. iv been contemplating this theory myself. its great we all think alike. The reason Rome failed was because of too many niggers tainting the blood stream.

>>4768727

Except when they did, only because they got their shit wrecked hard in the last 200 years of their life doesn't mean they were always like that, look at pre-1204.

>>4768742

Look at your first post.

>>4768133

Also if being against a nation is being against a whole race then the english and the french have always hated the white race because they hated each other.

>>4768754

Sure. Germans are good at taking the baton and running with it. Just like Hitler having to imitate Fascism. Like the Holy Roman Empire imitating Rome… Just like the modern world starting from the Renaissance…

And all that partly going back to the Greeks if you want to be fair.

No shame in copying I guess.

>>4768727

Oh k, I understand now. Just wanted to point out that the irrecoverability of the glory of the Greek/Roman society started much later than you said. More or less 400-600 years ago.

>>4768748

>>4768758

>>4768771

Wrong. Read at >>>/pdfs/3330

>>4768783

>The reason Rome failed was because of too many niggers tainting the blood stream.

Aka?

Most slaves came from the Germanic provinces, not the other way around.

Wow germans, I can't believe you are going full nigger now and claming to be greeks and romans.

This is a new low. You should focus in fixing your country (and your people mind) not in rewrinting pre-medieval history.

>>4768804

>Just like Hitler having to imitate Fascism

National Socialism is not fascism, and your argument is retarded to begin with. NatSoc was the best ideology they could have designed for the German people. Exactly where is the problem?

Tbh you seem unhealthily jealous of Germans. I think it's time for you to calm down a bit Fredo.

>>4768858

Despite all you say, what I said remains fact: ancient Anatolians were of the R1b group.

>>4768952

>Germans

>Getting cucked by rapefugees on an hourly basis

>German women loving it

>thinks everyone disagreeing with his revisionism of European history is jealous

Sure thing stormfag

>Ancient Latin Italics and Greeks had less Arab and Turkish admixture

Fixed

>>4769002

First time posting in this thread you mong.

Stat salty

>>4768984

Hahaha, not only are you jealous of German achievement, you are either a total kike or just retarded enough to believe their memes.

You do realize like over 90% of all Germans fucking hate the politicians and the migrants?

You live under a rock or something? Those pro-refugee groups are all funded by Soros and the German government, and even then their numbers are tiny. How do they represent the German population?

How are "Germans loving it" when the truth is that only a few percent of Germans are in favor of immigration and Merkel, according to all the polls?

>stormfag

Confirmed for Jew.

>>4768997

That claim doesn't even make any sense.

What exactly is your argument? You don't seem to have any.

>>4769067

Actually, Germany/Austria-Hungary was the pinnacle of European culture and achievement in the 19th-early 20th centuries but doesn't make your "WE WUZ CAESAR AND SHEEET" nigger tier bullshit true. Presently Germany is garbage, its people are unbelievable sheep and posting stormfront memes as fact is just shitposting.

Bring the salt, pleb

>>4769067

Seriously stop talking about jealousy. You're projecting. Women get jealous.

Just engage in the bantz.

>>4769116

The claim is that NS is a refined/better form of fascism. Nothing controversial. Just that there's a history of imitating movements from the south.

>>4766943

if this was true, then why were the nordics so primitive and barbaric back then?

>>4769196

They weren't primitive. The "barbarism" comes from the fact that they wore clothes made from hides and fur,

which made them look "animalistic" - barbaric to the roman trendies.

>>4769170

Yes, NS is superior to fascism. So? Your argument is pointless. You're whining that Germans created a better political ideology than the Italians?

>>4769196

They weren't? The Romans just called them barbaric. In many ways, they were more advanced than Romans, and in many ways, the Romans were more advanced than them.

You are falling for straight up nigger afrocentric propaganda myths if you for a second believe the "Da Uropeans waz livin in caves thousand years ago" bullshit.

>>4768737

Can I have the source for this please?

>>4768835

well why are Italians coffee coloured?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trBxPFLq__g

cannot deny

>>4769250

I said refined.

Though the Holy Roman Empire was far superior to any 20th century Socialism-variants.

>>4769301

>Some Italians are dark; therefore all Italians are

Italy is not and has never been homgenous; in fact, it wasn't even a unified country until 1871 (1918 to be precise)

learn to history

>>4769301

lol this is old school bantz.

The barbarity and backwardness of Northern Europeans in particular is also greatly exaggerated by self-loathing leftists, Medicists and muslims; just for starters. Secondly, the western Roman Empire collapsed in 455 AD and European culture suffered a setback in the ensuing dark ages, but from about the year 1000 AD it bounced back and from around the year 1500 the Europeans became the foremost people in virtually all areas of civilization, as extensively documented by Murray (2003). Thirdly, while Mediterraneans built the foundations of science, art, and philosophy, a foundation does not determine whether any stories will be built on that foundation, the style of those stories, the function of those stories, and the use of those stories. That was largely left to Northern Europeans, and it was just as much an accomplishment as the construction of the foundation itself. Some of the Greek foundations even limited the possibilities of further construction, and limited the scientific and cultural possibilities.

Fourthly, what one group of people did historically is not an indication of superiority, especially when it is on such a small time scale as that in which the Mediterraneans made their unique accomplishment (even 10,000 years is a mere second on the scale of universal history).

As Richard Lynn (2006) explains:

>When the ice sheets that covered northern Europe receded by about 10,000 years ago the Europeans with their increased intelligence were able to make the Neolithic transition to settled agriculture. They were only unable to develop early civilizations like those built by the South Asians and North Africans because Europe was still cold, was covered with forest, and had heavy soils that were difficult to plough unlike the light soils on which the early civilizations were built, and there were no river flood plains to provide annual highly fertile alluvial deposits from which agricultural surpluses could be obtained to support an urban civilization and an intellectual class, despite their larger brains and intelligence (Landes, 1998).

Mediterraneans can be great again, as can Europeans and Brits if we shake off this social marxism and jew imposed culture killing our nations. Needless to say, we are different people even with our similarities and I value these differences.

There's nothing wrong with banter between these nations. I like Greeks and Italians but they aren't half fucking sensitive and lack a sense of humour sometimes. I still don't want loads of them in my country either, just as they wouldn't want tons of Brits in their country.

>>4769301

Latitude. Obv.

>>4769295

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MKVcE0zn6lgXPetpMBcce1UA0oY4Zz6q2AxFVebAhuc/edit#gid=708222749

>>4769391

Thanks.

>>4769388

>Thirdly, while Mediterraneans built the foundations of science, art, and philosophy, a foundation does not determine whether any stories will be built on that foundation, the style of those stories, the function of those stories, and the use of those stories.

Thanks. That's all I'm claiming though.

>>4769422

As for whether the Ancient Romans and Greeks were white or meds is still up for debate. I don't think it was one or the other in the case of most figures in that time period. I think the Upper classes were either Nordid or a mix of Nordid/Med elements.

Only dishonest people or people saying it tongue in cheek will claim Italians or the Portugese are part nigger. At the end of the day most of our nations are overrun with niggers, Turks and assorted muslim scum and makiing our countries look like shit.

>>4769486

>As for whether the Ancient Romans and Greeks were white or meds is still up for debate

lol, I meant nordids or meds.

>>4769486

Well yeah, but this is harsh on centralized groups, i.e. Gallo-Italics types that are in neither polarity.

A pissing contest though won't change that the Romans (for any good qualities) basically acted like gangsters. e.g. Orgiastic, ultra-violent, theatrical, extreme-patriarchy, overly enjoying the good-life (baths, theater, sports ) etc.

Acting like this was a majority nordid tribe (as we define it) is stretching any credibility.

>>4770520

See

>>4770299

One of the greatest Italians to ever live.

>>4770520

>By that logic Inuit should be the master race…

Richard Lynn actually explains the case for this pretty well in Race difference in Intelligence.

Why is it every medicist I meet is always "muh socio-economics" "muh culture". If it weren't for the fact I've seen some of them call Stephen Jay Gould et. al out on their bullshit, you could mistake them for Jared Diamond fan boys.

>>4770575

Yeah, i know about Evola, i'm reading Spengler right now, after that i'm planning to read some of his works, starting with Revolt Againts the Modern World

>>4770793

Very nice. Spengler is fantastic, but Evola is something else. If you aren't familiar with Eastern and Western esoteric traditions it might seem like new age bullshit, but he's one of the few people that were able to synthesize large amounts of very different religious teachings. He's very /pol/ in that he's racist, sexist, anti-semetic and supports the building of a strong individual and community culture, but is able to explain it in a way that isn't just blind hate.

>>4770929

I prefer Miguel Serrano tbh.

>>4767169

Bump

>>4770929

>>4770975

I know, someone think of Evola as one of the greatest intellectual of the 20th century, while others dont like him, i guess i'll try and see for myself.

About Nietzsche, i already read Thus Spoke Zarathustra, surely a fundamental reading. Never read anything from Marcus Aurelius though, i guess i'll add him to my list.

>>4768293

The only verifiable "germanic" stock in Mediterranean cultures is in Greek Macedonians and that can easily be explained by the much later Varangian integration by Byzantines.

>>4772085

>Albanian

Does that mean Titus was not White?

>>4770975

Marcus Aurelius was one of the best humans to ever live and everything he wrote was gold, but his perspective is limited to Evola who includes the most important parts of Hind, Buddhist and Hermetic teachings. Although Nietzsche wrote lots of truth, he's too much of a pussy for me. Evola was an absolute beast in everything he did and nobody alive during his time really knew what to do with him. The SS kept a dossier on him for being more radical than NatSoc Germany, who were evoking the same kinds ideas from ancient traditions that Evola talked about. Mussolini, despite being inspired by Evola's works, was equally skeptical. Despite this, he wrote hundreds of essays and thousands of articles in a time when going against government propaganda was haram as fuck which takes incredible courage. Nietzsche, in my opinion, just wrote some edgy things and lived in absolute misery without a purpose in life while Evola did whatever it took to achieve individual progress.

As for his writing style, it's hard to articulate what ultimate truth is in words. He comes very close though, and I think it's because he draws on so many different sources that all talk about the same thing but are from radically different cultures and people. His point is that one should analyze every action as whether or not it moves you towards or away from virtue, the Roman definition of virtue, virtus.

>>4771114

Your first picture just verifies that swarthy Greeks and fair Vikings have the same cranial features.

On the third image all the frontline is pakis.

>>4772228

Yes and the acress from Friends is a Jew not a Greek.

All the main characters in Friends are played by Jews.

>>4767029

Pagan larpers are worse than fedoratards at this point. They need to shitpost in every thread

>>4771249

Miguel Serrano is too /x/ for most of /pol/. You have to start newfriends out with something that is referencable before having them read about ideas on the Hyperboreans, avatars, demiurges and so on.

>>4770733

>Richard Lynn actually explains the case for this pretty well in Race difference in Intelligence.

Lynn forged "evidence" and according to his theory Altaico-Tungusic people should be among the most successful and intelligent races when they are historically proven as subsaharan-tier pillaging and raping savages.

Meanwhile in reality:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-16-smartest-people-on-earth-24252591.html

Smartest person is a Greek. 4 of the 16 smartest people in the world are from the Balkans (with Balkans being less than 1% of global population and less than 10% of the global White population) .

Romans were just scum anyway– classical Athens had a citizenship primarily composed of Mediterranean types.

>>4772308

>Yes and the acress from Friends is a Jew not a Greek.

Not openly. Even if she's crypto-jewish her White traits are of Greek origin.

>>4767476

Only LARPers and D&C shills bother with the "Are X White" threads.

>>4772372

>classical Athens had a citizenship primarily composed of Mediterranean types

Good example. Atheneans not only took pride in their autochthonous pre-Hellenic Pelasgian background but also emphasized their non-"nordicness" by description of the Atlanteans that were bleeding hearts egalitarian cucks that despite their mind blowing technology and near world dominance had their shit pushed in by the patriotic Atheneans.

>Still believing in phrenology

>Using sources from 1939

Shit thread. OP a fag.

>>4767476

This. We Meds hardly give a fuck if we are "White" or about Northerncucks' weak nordicist claims. What's of importance is that we are both "Whites" in the eyes of the common "semetic" enemies that seek the destruction of both of our subraces.

ITT: WE WUZ-tier amateurish shitposting based entirely on fantasies

It's like you faggots can't even deal with the possibility that your country or region of origin might have been shit in the past. That's okay. You're still European and have a right to exist in Europe and should be granted national self-determination. Do you actually have to be the best country ever for all of history to feel proud? Fuck.

Take it to /his/.

>>4767133

>Since Hitler only invoked the viking pagan imagery.

Umm…

.

>>4771603

Those who like him are usually familiar with Eastern traditions because that's where he takes half of his inspiration. You'll either completely agree with him or you won't understand what he's getting at. There's no right or wrong answer, he just goes about it differently than most intellectuals during that time since he hated all of them for being too focused on material ideas.

>>4766943

They're Trojans, you dunce.

>>4770520

>just trying to latch onto other people achievements.

It's not their achievements we're trying to latch onto. We're trying to make sense of why shitskins around the world are living in countries that used to be so culturally and technologically advanced.

The answer is simple, the shitskins weren't in charge back then.

WE WUZ KANGS!!!!!!!!

>>4773091

I guess Mohammed was actually german too, eh?

>>4769301

>well why are Italians coffee coloured?

They aren't. They're either olive skinned or in the case of many Northern Italians fair skinned.

>citing one of Tarantino's cuckfests as a source

>>4773277

Of course

WE WUZ PHARAOHS

Muhammad had red hair and beard so that's why he was THOR! THE PROPHET WAS THOR! GERMANIC AS FUCK!!!

>>4767101

>Marcus Aurelius was shit?

in a way, yes.

doesn't he strike you that the philosopher emperor himself was the one who fucked up the adoptive emperor system, which actually worked?

>>4773850

*doesn't it

>>4773850

Commodus was a great lad. It would have worked out if he wasn't assassinated.

Given that the commonly held theory is that most European peoples are descended from similar stock (proto-indo-european), it makes sense that ancient Romans would resemble northern Europeans, who have not mixed with Semites, more than they resemble modern Italians, who have mixed with Semites.

>>4772646

This

>>4769301

>Given that the commonly held theory is that most European peoples are descended from similar stock (proto-indo-european), it makes sense that ancient Romans would resemble northern Europeans

This makes 0 sense whatsoever. The most recent findings have Europeans descend from 4 big ancestral populations.

In order from oldest to newest: Mesolithic Hunter-Gatherers(who survived the last glacial maximum in S. Europe) -> Neolithic Farmers(first white skinned people to arrive in the west) -> East invaders(mostly formed by two components, East European hunter gatherers, Caucasian hunter gatherers and a sprinkle of very old N. Eurasian component) who apparently brought fair features, nowadays most common in N. Europe.

Before the Indo-European invasion, most of Europeans, especially in the west, looked somewhat like modern Sardinians, white skinned but dark haired/eyed for the most, who haven't basically been influenced by subsequent migrations almost at all, and thus give as a good approximation of how Neolithic Europe looked like, roughly.

The more south you go, the more populations resemble these old populations.

Italians haven't mixed with semites, the non European components in Italy are for the most from the Caucasus.

>>4774138

meant for >>4773996

>>4774349

FUCKING SHIT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ITS OWN THREAD. can a mod delete this?

>>4774355

It doesn't deserve its own thread.

>>4774349

You know it's worth mentioning a lot of people of the r1b are born with blonde nearly white blonde hair before it darkens in later years. Anywho, check out (while not disregarding you full time blondies) the faces and complexions in these films…

>>4774621

>>4766943

Hate to burst your bubble but the ancient Romans are Greek. In fact, it was the inundation of Slavic people that destroyed it, much like Africans in America.

>>4775391

were*

>>4772448

Yeah mane, brain size aint got shit to do with nuffin.

We was kangz.

>>4766943

Y'ALL NIGGERS POSTING IN A DIVIDE AND CONQUER THREAD!

GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER /POL/ FFS SAGE, FILTER AND REPORT

>>4773449

>2nd pic

>dat Armenian distribution

More indecisively White than Argentina.

>>4774490

I'm butthurt, butthurt about the nigger germs.

>>4766963

March of the Titans is just White Afrocentrism. If you want to turn Alt-Right into an absolute joke, go for it. I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur "Kemp" was a cryptokike.

>>4773449

>Why is it fundamentally only Germanboos who do this shit?

Hmm probably angry that they got their shit pushed in by jews and what not. Understandable but sad.

>Why do we never hear of French people saying that for instance Roman/Greek aristocracy was Gallic

Good point. The French actually do have a better claim to 'we wuz kangs'. Not only is their Gallic blood ancient and closest to Roman, but they also got the best of the Roman soldiery when Rome colonized Gaul… and they got the best of the Germans (the Germanic super-tribe called the Franks) AND they got Norman blood.

Too bad they went full enlightenment.

white power

kick the mongrels out

>We wuz Romans nd shiet.

lmao at this thread.

>>4766943

The Mediterranean area used to be a whole less schwarty back in the day. The Ancient Greeks and Romans weren't Germanic but they were a lot more genetically close to the Germanic people than their mudded-up ancestors.

Does not mean Germans wuz kangz in sheit.

ITT, a bunch of faggots.

Phenotype=/=Genetics

That what some niggers are using when they see a nigger that looks like someone on the statues in Egypt but that does not mean they're Egyptian one bit.

>>4776280

RIP in peace Justinian.

>>4771114

>Greek

>pic of a jew

>>4769985

>shitskins from the south never moved to the north

>white masterrace from the north never moved to the south

Why are you shitskins with mudslime ancestors so fucking pathetic? It must be the low IQ and all the inbreeding.

>>4773277

>>4773351

Mohammed was a Jew.

Christ, just read Tacitus on the Germans. He makes it clear that they are different than urban patrician Romans

Then why aren't modern italians Teutonic? They never succumbed to mudshit rule, so why are they more Mediterranean?

>>4767437

>>4767249

>tfw mostly celtic and teutonic

100% master race

>>4768233

>>4768233

>hefty proportion of Roman nobles was blonde haired and blue eyed

Ftfy, we know shit about the plebs

>>4768466

>WE WUZ KANGS

>>4775441

Phrenology has to do with the skull, not brain

>>4768578

>only from 1400

Really fucks over Italy, though it fucks over Greece even more. Not only that but it's also considering everything equal. The invention of the battery counts the same as inventing a particular pair of tongs.

>>4777806

You are absolutely right but there is some truth to the clip, the moors, who were not niggers but arabs did destroy much of the North African, Southern Italian and Spanish bloodlines, the Turks in turn fucked up Greece and much of the Balkans.

Southern Europe looked a lot more like Southern Germany toda- 75 years ago. You probably didn't see overwhelming numbers of blue eyed blondes but they weren't uncommon and dark hair didn't dominate.

Modern Germanics aren't the ancestors of Romans but they are more like their common ancestors than the mystery meat that inhabits most of Southern Europe.

>>4778405

I fear doing a 23 and me test.

>>4778419

23andme only traces your ancestry back a few centuries.

>>4767553

WEW

>>4766952

>>4766957

>>4766970

>>4766974

>>4766983

>>4766988

>>4766996

>Jewish/Christian shills, this early in a post? Oh my. Trying to get extra hours I see.

>>4778405

that's bullshit… aside for the fact that Southern Italy was never invaded by Arabs like you all seems to believe (with the exception of Sicily that was invaded by Normans too, so funnily enough seems to be the place with the most germanic DNA in Italy) see >>4772646 actual scientific studies instead of some

Germanboo laarping.

>>4778500

Shut the fuck up, you absolute moron.

Do you really think the Roman Empire was built by a bunch of tree-worshipping Nords that barely had any civilization till the eleven-hundreds?

People like you are hopeless. That's why you're being mocked. "We Wuz Kangz" is right.

>>4778532

>that's bullshit… aside for the fact that Southern Italy was never invaded by Arabs like you all seems to believe (with the exception of Sicily that was invaded by Normans too, so funnily enough seems to be the place with the most germanic DNA in Italy)

Actually it was. See the Vandal migration and settling in North Africa. The Vandals used North African soldiers and invaded Southern Italy an the islands of Italy and Spain.

There's not a trace of the Vandals left now. They were absorbed into the North African population.

>>4778607

there's a quote for >>4778405

>>4769451

fuck off queerdo. go back to lefty pol.

>>4768737

>Dutch, Flemish and Swiss are seperated from Germanic

Absolute shit table. The total percentage of Germanic contribution should be at least 19.5%.

>>4778492

Really?

>>4769486

Doesn't really make sense that Nordid elites built Rome but their home land was shit, now does it? Not every race who does more than sharpen sticks are Nords. Fuck me, if they were Nords then wouldn't it make sense for the Nords to have the same technology as, for example, the ancient Assyrians/Sumerians and Romans at that time?

It's literally "we wuz kangz" tier retardation

>>4778741

That's supposed to prove what, exactly? That some Italians have light brown hair?

>>4778750

Make of it what you will.

>>4778922

No divide and conquer. Just a reminder that those barbarians served Caesar better than his legions and that the Varangian guard fought for the emperor while his own guards betrayed him.

>>4775140

>Muh aristocracy

arisotocrats are just rich people anon

>>4778936

And Muslim divisions fought for Hitler.

What of it?

>>4779440

because whole argument is;

we wuz kaezar n shiet

>>4778936

>and that the Varangian guard fought for the emperor while his own guards betrayed him.

Daily reminder that the Varangian guard was a copy of the Julio-Claudian Batavi guard.

>>4766963

I read that and a Greek rebuttal where Kemp was caught doctoring pictures to make Hellenic Greeks blonde. And that was just the part of the book concerning Greece. He also said the First Emperor of ancient China was an Aryan based on a few passages of translated ancient text that indicated there were green eyes somewhere near China. "We wuz changz and sheeiit."

>>4767636

Southern Germans are not Germanic, they're Alpines racially, they became culturally Germanic, turning into the Alemanni and shit.

>italians

>white

Some Romans were probably northern due to those invasions, but it's ridiculous to suggest that Italy was ever majority Nordic. This is Afrocentrism-tier "if it was a powerful nation, it must have been our race." You don't have to pretend all accomplishments are your own to be proud of your race; northern Europeans have plenty to be proud of as it is.

>>4778759

Why don't you read the historic description of Augustus that describes his skin "as between like and dark."

Make of that what you will muhahaha.

>>4766943

This is a load of bullshit. They'd be Nordic and then rape, destroy, pillage Europe and force Christianity on it? What are you on? Just because you have some hard on for Roman culture doesn't mean you can just build your ethnic and world views around that. In fact, instead of Romans being Nordic… Centuries of enslavement and rape may have made Europeans a bit more "Roman". Ever think about that?

>>4767169

>http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=1476e03a55e07c9a92c6bf4912bd907b

It's a really nice technical sheet, but where is the download link?

If meds were nordic why did they give a shit about barbarians?

>>4815944

Different culture. Plus meds mixed over time.

>>4768766

Perhaps he is referring to this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occipital_bun

>>4778559

>Shut the fuck up, you absolute moron.

Hahah you actually responded to me?

Okay, that's fine. I'll assume you were serious.

>Do you really think the Roman Empire was built by a bunch of tree-worshipping Nords that barely had any civilization till the eleven-hundreds?

You're implying that a bunch of star-worshipping etruscans were somehow better?

Are you aware that the proto-germanic peoples had their Iron age BEFORE Rome even existed? No, of course you weren't. You're an uneducated nigger.

Are you aware that Christians burned all the evidence of pre-Jewshit paganism? They basically buried their culture and history in an effort to enslave them to the stick-jew. Of course, they couldn't get rid of everything, so we know, for example, that the Hallstat culture, which dominated most of central and northern europe pre-Rome had complicated burial rites, mining, metallurgy, advanced woven-textile technology.

But no, you just had to be a nigger.

>>4767787

>earliest precursor to modern corporate globalisation

They were semetic cousins to the jews, they also founded Carthage as literally a merchant empire that worshiped Moloch with child sacrifice.

>>4766943

Fuck off d&c faggot.

Stop trying to turn modern Mediterraneans against nords

>>4778741

he looks like zuckerbeg

>>4822993

If you don't care about genetics, why do you call American mongrel?

There's no such thing as 100% pure german.

Please read this

http://www.unz.com/article/what-race-were-the-greeks-and-romans/

>>4823050

The nazi mind in a nutshell.

German/Prussian thing = GOOOOODD

Jewish thing = BAAAAAAADDDD

>>4816109

>>4822743

Never forget that higher class Roman women used to dye their hair blonde because T H E Y L I K E E X O T I C C O L O U R S

Event he Thracians were known for their Auburn hair. Blonde hair is found all around the northern Middle East. Not every one who doesn't have brown eyes and brown/black hair is a Nord

>>4823150

Yeah, they would shittalk Bismarck's criticism of anti-jewry just to suck Hitler's cock, as well as shittalking Hitler's generals and saying they lost the war instead of Hitler.

It's just Hitler's worship, plain and simple.

Divide and conquer in its purest form.

Europeans are more related than any other group on earth.

If Europeans are to survive we can't have more brotherly wars, we especially can't have this type of conflict among the people with right views.

>>4767623

sylvester stallone isn't even italian, he's a jew who changed his name… what the fuck are you doing?

andrew dice clay is jewish and pretends to be italian, too. jews love to pretend to be italian

>>4830005

What? His Father Frank Stallone (Staglione) is an Italian, and his mother is French and Ukrainian

>>4830005

What? His Father Frank Stallone (Staglione) is an Italian, and his mother is French and Ukrainian

>>4831093

Grey eyes are found all the way from Eastern Europe, to Central Asian, Middle East and North Africa. Light coloured eyed and hair aren't Nordic features alone

>>4822993

Sure, large parts of Africa and Latin America are non-White Christians, but it's asatru who are the problem!

>>4823150

>Actual Hitler worship has broken out to the point that people are deluding themselves into thinking he's handsome.

Hitler's nickname when he was young was "pretty adolf" because he looked like a little gentlemen.

>>4778750

>That's supposed to prove what, exactly? That some Italians have light brown hair?

Have you ever been tested for colour blindness?

>>4776280

>Sure they were Nordic. Whatever you say. The ancient Chinese, Mesopotamians and Mesoamericans were clearly Nordic too.

First one is from Byzantium when the Greeks had lost their race, the second is from a foreign counple in pompei that god tich on trade and the second, well pompei wasn't Roman but Etruscan!

The Nordic countries used to be great; what is it about them that made them 1000% more pozz'd than even the Japanese after world war 2 though?

>>4832110

Asatru are the problem on /pol/ at least because of their autistic alliance with atheists to piss off Christians.

If we're talking about real life the Asatru aren't so much a problem as they are totally irrelevant. The atheists are far more dangerous due to their jewish roots and attempts to undermine Christianity with secularism. In the past several decades the religious right became a thing and because of jewish meddling like "don't you want to stay relevant goy" certain foundations of the religious right have been weakened- one that has been noted especially frequently is the fact that televangelists, "refugee organizations" and other major leadership structures purporting to do good use the money of the religious right to enrich themselves, often at the expense of the religious right.

Atheists are a problem because they further attempt to undermine the underlying views of the religious right- Protestantism is strong because of its ability to schism. If some kike becomes the leader of a big protestant church then the followers just leave and form their own version of the church. To a certain degree American Catholics are also protestantized, and as we've seen in Germany the common Christian rejects the idea that German should be destroyed for the sake of Muslims and cuckstianity. Expect to see major religious upheavals against the corrupt clergy across the West should AfD and Trump Republicans and FN make real, major gains in the various governments.

Ultimately the fact is that Christian right-wing groups like the Mormons are disproportionately giving birth to the next generation of whites- anyone advocating the alienation of religious Christians is advocating the alienation of what is potentially a generation of nationalistic whites. Atheists do not have kids, Asatruists do not have kids. If the Asatruists and atheists want to not be called Jews then they need to establish their own codes of conduct or doctrines which support having lots of kids and stop attacking right wing Christians.

>>4832220

>First one is from Byzantium when the Greeks had lost their race

You can make the argument that the turks raped the shit out of us after Constantinople fell, but the Byzantine Empire is known as Greek for more than just culture.

you're welcome for protecting you from the muslims for 1100 years btw

>>4832295

It is mostly just Sweden. Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Finland have all largely rejected the attempts to undermine them and established strong nationalist right wings. Sweden has only begun removing muslims because they don't have the resources to take care of them and want to pozz other nations with them instead.

>>4832220

Pompeii was never Etruscan, I'm not sure where you'd even come up with the idea that a town in southern Italy was ever Etruscan.

>>4832359

>It is mostly just Sweden. Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Finland have all largely rejected the attempts to undermine them and established strong nationalist right wings. Sweden has only begun removing muslims because they don't have the resources to take care of them and want to pozz other nations with them instead.

That's good to hear anon; any chance that the nationalist parties take control like in Poland?

>>4823192

Also…

>Rape of the Sabines 750BC

>Sabines are another italic tribe.

>Early Roman kingdoms are a combination of Roman-Sabine

>Later Etruscans join in

>Romans are "mixed" before even the republic comes about

>Some of the gentes of the Roman republic had Sabine heritage, such as the Claudia gens

And we get retards here thinking they know something about Roman history.

>>4832439

Their right wing parties like the Danish people's party are usually in coalition with the ruling conservatives. The main reason why Denmark is 90% Danish, paying sandniggers to go home and running "Danes need to have more kids for Denmark" ads is because of their influence.

No they weren't.

>>4822993

The problem with white Americans always lies in the Jews

The conception of the "melting pot" is actually a good idea since it meshes nicely with Rooseveltian concepts of nationalism. This is despite its creator being a jew.

However later on for various reasons you ended up with Jews and their liberal lackeys taking over large parts of academia. Many of these academic blocks- like American Studies- were turned into vehicles to assault the traditional American identity.

This traditional identity of course held that "White" and "American" were interchangeable terms as the USA was founded as a nation for white people- entirely reasonable. However the fact that America had never formally changed the census to reflect this white=American idea because it was simply taken for granted allowed jews to change the meaning of America to be inclusive towards niggers. Italians, Irish, Poles and other "white ethnics"- that is non-Protestant whites typically aided the Jews in their attacks on white America.

The rise of white nationalism today, more than a half-century after the radical marxism currents of the 1960s began undermining America is entirely a byproduct of all these disparate white groups- largely Catholic and Protestant though, few jews want to be a part of white America even today- mixing together. The animosity that existed in the past between the WASP and the Italian or the German and the Pole has ceased to exist as intermarriage between Christian sects has become frequent. This is also why people typically go "no the irish totally didn't undermine America- Ted Kennedy was set up by the jews" when in fact Kennedy's push to expand immigration derived heavily from the desire of Irish people to stick it to the WASPs, only for Irish and WASPs to intermarry and therefore fuck their mixed grandchildren over.

Despite a lot of mixing the Jews are reluctant to join in this nascent white identity movement.