/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

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Fucking Roocucks.

>>4876732

>They're all old people and women

b-but muh empty church services

religion is cancer

Cuckstianity is a poison

Best bet is to pull a Varg/Breivik and burn down churches that support multiculturalism

Ahh the eternal christian strikes again…

http://pastebin.com/XhVSDGQ5

>>4876810

Summarize please

>>4876711

> boomers fucking over next generation

Fuck! I hate these assholes!

>>4876711

What's the point of the Anglican Church now a days, anyway ?

>>4876863

Boomers seem to actually becoming worse and worse.

10 years ago they used to be somewhat sane, now after being fully saturated with talmud vision they refuse to say "nigger" and their hatred of the lesser races has disappeared.

>Anglican

Protestants once again proving that the only good thing that came from their schisms and "reformations" was the Counter-Reformation.

>>4876711

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

b-b-b-but Christianity is redpilled!

D-Deus Vult!

>>4876941

Non-catholic , non-catholic derivative, non-protestant, non-orthodox christianity is redpilled goy

So only Gnosticism

>>4876711

fucking anglicans man i swear

poofs and women in the pulpit…

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

>>4876941

Churches provide one function in society

Governments provide another

The fact the Government allowed refugees to enter the nation shows that they failed their function.

The Church is not failing its function.

The Churches function is to show Charity and kindness to people in the nation in order to gain them as followers of the faith.

No need to blame the Church when they are not the weak link in this situation.

During colonial times the west would bring Christian missionaries with them to spread the word of god.

This was in the benefit of the Church and the Government.

The Church continues to serve its purpose while the Government has stopped serving its.

>>4876792

>Best bet is to pull a Varg/Breivik and burn down churches that support multiculturalism

I think it would be enough to dispossess the buildings and have the government run religious/cultural affairs (given that the government isn't run by kikes).

We really need to talk about this stuff, because the lines in the sand really become more and more appearent by the day.

Organized Christianiy at this point is as much of an enemy as the ZOG.

>>4877054

>defending this shit

>>4877054

>Churches provide one function in society

>Governments provide another

>Trying to make churches seem apolitical when they are legally defying the government.

The layers of denial and rationalization you guys do is just amazing.

This is what you get for getting moral guidance from some kid touchers. Make your own decisions, faggots.

>>4877323

This looks like a much deeper problem than just Australia. It appears to have been going on quietly in Canada for some time.

>Sanctuary is an ancient practice in the tradition of Christianity and other religions. However, the legal status of the practice of Sanctuary is nowhere clearly defined in Canadian law. In fact, Sanctuary has never been violated by the government in over 30 years of recent practice by Canadian churches. The only exception to this was the case of an Algerian refugee claimant in a Quebec city church was arrested by local police on the grounds that he had a breached a court ruling that he not leave Montreal. Local police handed him over to Immigration officials and he was deported. Subsequently he was able to return to Canada and eventually achieved refugee status.

>In fact almost all the cases of refugees in Sanctuary over this thirty years period have been quietly resolved so that the refugee could leave the church with a secure status.

>In fact, no one and no congregation have ever been charged under such provisions for providing Sanctuary. More recently, these sections have been challenged in court (in British Columbia).

>It seems that the government is reluctant to charge a church for the “crime” of offering Sanctuary as it would become a major test case involving a Charter Challenge (freedom of conscience, freedom of religion). Our best legal opinion indicates that the government would be reluctant to bring such charges as it would jeopardize aspects of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. The government has opted for the practice of trying to “wear down and wait out” those offering Sanctuary.

http://sanctuarycanada.ca/?resources:guidelines_for_church_groups_and_congregations_considering_sanctuary

>>4877392

However on the other side of things:

>Cardinal Marx

>Referencing Germany’s dark past, Cardinal Marx lamented such rhetoric saying, “Sadly there has always been a certain potential for rightwing extremism and racism in Germany,”

>>4877392

Was that before or after the people dropped out of church because that dome in Cologne thing? :^)

Can't lose the shekels after all.

>>4877392

That faggot is just changing his tune because the German people are so disgusted. From Wikipedia.

>Cardinal Marx has consistently criticized European policies towards asylum seekers, claiming that they keep away people who need help. On the occasion of the tragic sinking of a migrant boat near Lampedusa in 2013, he said

>For years, we have followed a policy which has prevented those in need reaching our shores. This is not the kind of Europe we want. To claim asylum is a fundamental human right which we must respect. Refugees and asylum seekers deserve to be treated humanely.[20]

>On September 5, 2015, Cardinal Marx along with Lutheran bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm, members of the clergy and crowds of Germans enthusiastically welcomed Syrian refugees coming to Germany at the Munich train station.[21]

>He has also spoken out against xenophobia and violence done against migrants in Germany. He claimed that Catholics are not allowed to be xenophobic.[22]

>In September 2015, he chaired a meeting of COMECE joined by the Conference of European Churches, which had been convened to discuss the Syrian migrant crisis in Europe. Marx made clear that, "Those who enter Europe, must not be afraid to drown or suffocate. And they must get a fair asylum process. These are minimum standards which must apply throughout Europe."

Even a week ago, this faggot was still supporting the refugees.

>On January 31st 2016, in the face of growing backlash against the open-door policies for refugees, Cardinal Marx spoke at a forum in Berlin urging Europe to remain open to Muslim migrants, urging Chancellor Merkel's coalition to stand firm in their resolve to allow the migrants in and at the same time calling on other nations in Europe to take on their quota of refugees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Marx

I wouldn't consider these people real christians or their institutions real churches if they're willing to sell the local citizenry down the river in favor of rapefugees who will bring crime and depravity to their communities. Going on missions to their lands is fine. The other way around? Not so much.

>>4877467

It was because we were more intolerant as a society, not that christianity had any part in making society that way. Things have been becoming more pozzed daily, and Christianity adapted to that message.

Now it's Christianity rejecting a shift back to this intolerant stage

>>4877536

>tfw you'll never get to discuss the Vedas with Himmler over some German beers, while Hitler and Eva fight in the background over what suit he should wear at his next speech

Why live?

>>4877540

>I wouldn't consider these people real christians or their institutions real churches

Convenient. Where have we heard that before?

>>4877585

>Convenient. Where have we heard that before?

Probably every christian denomination talking about the others

>>4877585

Never say never anon we might just get our hitler soon

>>4877407

I went to the Christmas mass this year and the priest used the once-a-year oppurtunity of a full house to tell us not to vote for Wilders.

>>4876786

This is exactly what I thought. The church will be whatever you want them to be, it's just getting desperate and quite pathetic now. In every age the church is subservient to the state's idologies, they have no moral backbone and don't deserve any respect. Jesus would condemn their actions more than anyone.

>>4877614

>Probably every christian denomination talking about the others

Inviting in 3rd world immigrants with embedded terrorists is well beyond just talking.

>>4877889

>Inviting in 3rd world immigrants with embedded terrorists is well beyond just talking.

You're right, they're doing as told

Matthew 25:35

'For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;

>>4877935

>ebin hat, chin hair goes down neck

>>4877812

And this will never, ever be brought up in any news articles or sites.

Considering the dislike of Evangelical church leaders for Trump, you wonder how many Iowan churches took aim at him prior to the caucus.

Deus Vult :^)

If you want to spread a virus, you start at the airports and the cities.

>>4877963

>>ebin hat, chin hair goes down neck

>ignoring my argument because of the meme

s-sorry for triggering you.

>>4877963

>Matthew 25:35

That isn't a commandment. Even if it were, it isn't a commandment to embrace invaders.

>>4878019

Jesus wasn't a refugee. Didn't Joseph and Mary return to their homeland for a census.

>>4878009

Don't worry, I'm not ignoring your argument, I know it's there, but I also know that if I point out to you how Christianity didn't stop nations from chimping out at each other or how it failed to reclaim the fallen Christian nations of the Middle East (and North Africa, don't forget that) you're just going to ignore it like any other vocal Christian on this board.

I'm at a point where arguing has become meaningless because you won't be convinced by arguments.

I also know that you people will drop your faith faster than a kike picks up some shekel, once it's forced off of you. People are obviously tired of this nonsense and having this nonsense negatively influence their nations.

>>4878044

>That isn't a commandment. Even if it were, it isn't a commandment to embrace invaders.

Look at the entire thing please. If you go to hell because you refuse a stranger who needs shit on the odd chance of him being God, then of course it's a commandment. Retards believing in this shit don't want to go to hell after all.

>>4878061

Check this out from the source! A whole set of materials for ministers wanting to enlist their "flock" into helping refugees

############################################

“Born Unto Us: Jesus the Refugee” is built specifically for your church service. The campaign includes:

Sermon notes and guides

Social media templates

Bulletin templates

A moving 1 min video

Web banners

And more

http://refugeecrisis.worldrelief.org/jesus-the-refugee/

###########################################

This is creepy as shit.

>>4878061

They did, plus Egypt like Judea was Roman territory at that time.

>>4878401

>Thank you for pointing out that you are not actually trying to argue in good faith.

You're welcome. It's better to be up front and honest about this instead of acting as if you do, while you don't.

>During the Crusades the Church managed to convince European nations to drop their wars and pick up the cross and fight the real enemy that was encroaching on Christian lands.

Yes, and before and after there was infighting between the Christian nations; and the Crusades did jack shit about the Middle East, now did they?

>If it was not for Charlemagne all of Europe would have become Muslim.

Same semitic shit.

>You do not realize that in those days Europe had fallen from its highest peak, which was the roman empire. The muslims had the advantage during that time.

I know that. Coincidentally just as Chrstianity took over the empire. I'm sure having every schmock in your empire become a citizen because "there's neither jew nor greek nor man or woman" was infesting the minds of Europeans worked out well for the Romans.

>You're thinking of reddit/women/people with slave moralities, those people are subservient to the opinion of the majority.

Most Christians are like that, thankfully. The rest wil hav to die unfortunately, but that's a sacrifice anyone interested in his people's survival is going to make. After all, just like with everything else we have the truth on our side while Christianity's track record of upholding a nation are pretty shitty, especially recently.

>That is funny that you say this when statistics show that Christians have more children compared to atheists and pagans.

What is it with r-selected lowlives acting like that's some great accomplishment? Good job, you're like niggers and other locust races.

>Again you did not address my points and instead attacked Christianity with a horrible understanding of history. Maybe you are simply trying to force your version of Christianity. I will never know.

I did address your points. It didn't unite Christian European nations, it failed to reclaim the Middle East and Northern Africa, it failed as bastion against cultural subversion (because it's subversive in nature itself), it will fail again if we let it.

Only retards would let it, but I know that you would, which is why arguing is so meaningless with you. Thankfully people are waking up to this shit.

>>4877580

But Peace-Diversity-Tolerance is the ideals this country was founded on you racist neo-nazi bad goy!

>>4878401

>During the Crusades the Church managed to convince European nations to drop their wars and pick up the cross and fight the real enemy that was encroaching on Christian lands.

It taught Christians to massacre and force conversions on White European pagans, but allowed Jews into Europe and gave them a monopoly on lending money to Christians, which gave them enormous wealth and power.

>>4878591

>LARPagan shill

>>4878610

You tell 'em, fellow Crusader! AY MANE, DAYUS VOOLT!

The gall of Christians to complain about LARPing, lol

>>4878626

>implying I'm a christian

>implying LARPagans aren't as bad as catholic scum

>>4878645

>Christcuck Internet Defense Force Argumentation Tactics

Do you happen to have that leprechaun screencap?

>>4878673

>>implying LARPagans aren't as bad as catholic scum

At least they worship something native to the Europeans, that's a plus.

>>4878569

>Thankfully people are waking up to this shit.

I think it's entering its death throes even on /pol/. Despite their consistent persistence and shitposting like >>4878610 the evidence against them is too overwhelming.

The most recent big blow to them was the Evangelical leaders working against Trump and pushing for Cruz and Rubio.

Christians are such stupid sheep that many of them can be bought off by shit like this:

>Ted Cruz Creates a ‘National Prayer Team’

>Mr. Cruz, who has aggressively courted the support of evangelicals, said the creation of the team would “establish a direct line of communication between our campaign and the thousands of Americans who are lifting us up before the Lord.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/20/ted-cruz-creates-national-prayer-team/?_r=0

>>4878569

>What is it with r-selected lowlives acting like that's some great accomplishment? Good job, you're like niggers and other locust races

if you come from the middle class you are "r selected".

your great grand parents probably had 10 kids your grand parents had 5 or 4 and your parents had 1 or 2. its just how trends go with changes in politics and massive cities making it impossible to have giant families.

r selection refers to how often mothers give birth to 2 or 3 children at the same time. if a population gives birth to one kid that population is k selected if not you are leaning to r selection.

>I know that. Coincidentally just as Chrstianity took over the empire. I'm sure having every schmock in your empire become a citizen because "there's neither jew nor greek nor man or woman" was infesting the minds of Europeans worked out well for the Romans.

I don't understand…are you saying that the Germans where inferior people to the Romans? if you are FOR white nationalism why are you against the Church unifying the nations of Europe under the Roman Church?

>>4878735

>I don't understand…are you saying that the Germans where inferior people to the Romans?

Germans were foreigners in Rome. Foreigners should never be equal to the natives.

> if you are FOR white nationalism why are you against the Church unifying the nations of Europe under the Roman Church?

What are you, some pan-European faggot? Take your NWO fantasies to >>>/pathoflight/

>>4878735

Also

>white nationalism

Of course it had to be some mongrel that has no culture besides their kike-popsicle.

It's weird to have those shilling for roman catholicism though.

>>4878875

>>Christianity is all that is left of nationalism in Europe

…what?

>>starts promoting paganism which has zero advantage to European nations as less than 1% of Europe even identifies as pagan

>>4878645 was right.

>>4878687

The Catholic church was created in Rome. You have no legs to stand on with your cheap non-religion created just to feel special.

>>4878875

I don't think it's a case of anyone being infiltrated, it's just a difference in opinion. I don't think nationalism is, or needs to be, tied to Christianity anymore than it needs be with paganism.

>>4878893

You aren't a shill anon, you're just really really dumb

>>4878909

Christianity is the religion of the majority. If the religion of the majority is against nationalism then the majority will be against nationalism.

Paganism is an invalid answer because it appeals to a tiny minority of nationalists who exacerbate the problem of anti-nationalist cuckstianity by framing nationalists as anti-christian, further turning christians off to nationalism

For nationalism to succeed Christianity as a nationalist religion must be promoted, attempts to secularize or liberalize christianity must be opposed as un-christian.

>>4876711

Fucking Anglican church trying to court leftists. Pathetic, these people are disgusting.

>>4878901

>The Catholic church was created in Rome

By Jews. Great news for our semitic friends who are totally Europwean :^) Let's continue to worship a kike and his kike god by reading from the book written by his kike followers because it's totally European just because they built their church in the most important city back then.

There's this Tacitus quote that gets regularly shilled by Christians when pressed for "historical evidence" for Jesus that also mentions Rome, I'm sure you have it :^) I think it's in Annales, chapter 44.

>You have no legs to stand on with your cheap non-religion created just to feel special.

Unless you're a non-white you do have plenty of biological and cultural reasons to feel special, there's enough to stand on.

>>4878912

>you're just really really dumb

There were 3 points and you couldn't figure out which one's applicable to you. Wery smurt.

>>4878977

Like I said, you're dumb. All of your arguments are invalid.

>>4878925

>For nationalism to succeed Christianity as a nationalist religion must be promoted, attempts to secularize or liberalize christianity must be opposed as un-christian.

People don't buy our shit anymore, anon. They don't give a shit if it's un-christian, getting called un-christian is becoming more and more of a compliment by the day because by any objective standard, Christianity is fucked and worse: It's fucking us over as well.

People might not be smart, generally speaking, but they're not total retards either.

>>4879009

>Like I said, you're dumb. All of your arguments are invalid.

It's ok, retard. Keep praying to your volcano god, maybe he'll help you out.

>>4876711

Notice how these cucks are either ugly as sin or over the age of 45?

>>4879032

You said that you are not arguing in good faith publicly >>4878569

. This was a stupid move to make if you are trying to convince anyone of your opinions.

Most of the arguments you make are copy/paste from youtube atheists and the new ((nationalist atheists)) that have started to crop up on youtube.

>>4879032

Retards like you have popped up throughout history. Unless everyone becomes atheist tomorrow you will always be a retard for shitting on christianity and making moderate christians believe that nationalists are anti-Christian. You are inherently a cancer to any nationalist movement you involve yourself in.

>>4879014

Unless you're from Sweden that isn't the case.

>>4879115

You mean like in the USSR?

>>4879139

Say what you will about about the soviet union, but they didn't have rapefugees and wouldn't have put up with this shit.

>>4879107

Christian sentiment is weaker in the west now than it ever has been. Why would you throw away a great chance to usurp a jewish religion and replace it with nationalism? If we miss this chance it could resurge and our people continue to worship an alien jewgod for centuries more.

>>4879095

>This was a stupid move to make if you are trying to convince anyone of your opinions.

I also said that that's no what I'm doing, so it's ok.

>Most of the arguments you make are copy/paste from youtube atheists and the new ((nationalist atheists)) that have started to crop up on youtube.

Really? Name them, because I don't watch e-celeb shit.

>>4879107

> Unless everyone becomes atheist tomorrow

There's already this huge chunk of atheists in most western countries (around 1/3). Then there's another chunk of Christians, the baby boomers, who will die off pretty soon. And then there's the fact that the statistics are inflated anyway since it's custom to baptize your kid in most European countries. Just because someone's a Christian on paper doesn't mean that he's a Chrsitian for real, just like someone that's, say, a French on paper isn't necessarily French.

>you will always be a retard for shitting on christianity and making moderate christians believe that nationalists are anti-Christian

People figure this out themselves, which is why the church is losing members.

Point out stuff like OP repeatedly - and sadly, it's a common occurence - and eventually they'll rop it out of self-preservation.

>You are inherently a cancer to any nationalist movement you involve yourself in.

You're just salty because your imaginary friend cult is going away for good.

>>4879139

>You mean like in the USSR?

What works that works. But if you don't want the communists as example, let's just look at it how Christians treated pagans.

Buildings will be rennovated, holidays appropriated, cult leaders executed and everything will be fine.

>>4879182

>But if you don't want the communists as example, let's just look at […] Christians

Probably a bad example.

>>4879171

>>4879032

>>4878129

It really feels like they have a script to go by and just repost the same thing over and over making the same arguments that don't make any sense

>Christianity is Jewish

……but jewish groups have been trying to push out Christianity for years for some reason…

>Christianity is pro Muslim

…..but in Iowa the Christians split the vote which ended up with trump getting second place in a state that he was the weakest in

>Nationalists are not Christian

….but Christianity is the thing that ties together European nations

change it up already.

>>4879115

romanball isnt really a good example for removing cuckstianity

>>4879182

>You're just salty because your imaginary friend cult is going away for good.

I sure can't wait for my nation to die either.

>>4876792

So, you mean every church in existence then.

>>4879238

>……but jewish groups have been trying to push out Christianity for years for some reason…

There is no such thing as Jewish infighting.

There is no such thing as eliminating competition.

If you're on a stairway and you reach the next step, you abandoning the last step makes it a non-step somehow.

>Christianity is pro Muslim

I'd link you to the Varg post again but I'm sure you'd fail to see which point's applicable for the second time.

>….but Christianity is the thing that ties together European nations

Except for the uncountable times when it didn't, quite the opposite like with the 30 year war.

>It really feels like they have a script to go by and just repost the same thing over and over making the same arguments that don't make any sense

Truly.

>>4879244

>I sure can't wait for my nation to die either.

If you're a Christian then that's really not surprising. I choose life instead of death, which is why I'm so vehemently anti-Christian.

I want my people to survive forever, not have them wish for the apocalypse that should've come 1900 years ago, but never did, just so that they can maybe go to heaven.

Semitic death cults need to go.

>>4877475

He started waking up.

This isn't about Christian or no, people Christian and otherwise have been brainwashed equally by Talmudvision. The same thing happens in Sweden which is full-Atheist. It's a question of Jewish indoctrination.

>>4879360

>The same thing happens in Sweden which is full-Atheist.

Over 60% of the people are member of the Church of Sweden.

>>4879305

>I choose life instead of death, which is why I'm so vehemently anti-Christian

>even though Christianity is vehemently pro-life and provides reasons to live productively

Nigger, what? I think you've got it mixed up.

>I want my people to survive forever

You must be new to /pol/. White people have many, many more problems that greatly surpass the issue of a "death cult." Do you think it is a mere coincidence that our races continues to go downhill as Christianity tanks within western countries? It's an embarrassingly simple case of cause and effect.

>>4877935

The egalitarian religion that caused several massive wars and divided europe and also invites hordes of muddy is suppose to save us. No. Nice try christ nigger.

>>4879305

>want to survive forever

>not Christian

You are your own worst enemy.

>>4878401

The crusades destroyed Byzantium and fucked up europe you retard. We would be better off without them.

>>4878401

Somebody should edit this to a merchant cartoon. Make it "evidence the Holocaust never happened" or some shit.

>>4878925

OR we just drop Christianity because most of Europe is atheist now

>>4879392

>Nigger, what? I think you've got it mixed up.

No, I'm pretty sure there's this whole prophecy of Jesus coming back and bringing the end of the world in the bible. Haven't you read it?

>You must be new to /pol/. White people have many, many more problems that greatly surpass the issue of a "death cult." Do you think it is a mere coincidence that our races continues to go downhill as Christianity tanks within western countries? It's an embarrassingly simple case of cause and effect.

You know what they say about correlation and causation. You also have no way to explain the Czech Republic and Estonia within the frame of your argument.

Also, we had the same shit with Rome. Do you think they reasoned their downfall with "it's because people don't sacrifice to Iuppiter anymore, durr hurr"?

>>4879431

I'm talking about surviving for real not just in my imagination, anon. So no, I'm not my worst enemy when I want to create an environment that allows for the survival of my people.

Abolishing ideologies that are actively trying to destroy them is part of it.

>>4879392

>Do you think it is a mere coincidence that our races continues to go downhill as Christianity tanks within western countries?

Christianity has been going downhill since the 17th century. The horror of killing millions of fellow Europeans over stupid religious wars caused the religion's eventual decline.

The 18th and 19th century were the height of European power relative to the rest of the world, and by that point Christianity had slithered into the background.

>>4879494

>I'm pretty sure there's this whole prophecy of Jesus coming back and bringing the end of the world in the bible.

>to take his followers with him to the Kingdom of Heaven aka eternal life

I shouldn't be surprised an "anti-christian" didn't take the time to read up on the religion first.

>Do you think they reasoned their downfall with "it's because people don't sacrifice to Iuppiter anymore, durr hurr"?

Do you think they reasoned their downfall with "it's because of the Christians durr hurr?"

What I'm saying is blaming Christianity for the downfall of white people and western civilization is fucking retarded. There are so many contributing factors to take into account that pointing the finger at this dying religion is laughable.

>>4879499

>by that point Christianity had slithered into the background.

You mean the 20th century.

>anglican

Not even Protestants think Anglicans are Christian, friendo.

>t. Baptist

>>4879479

Western Europe can die then. Have fun all becoming Sweden 2.0.

Sweden often prided itself on being the most atheist country before it cucked itself.

>>4879620

>I shouldn't be surprised an "anti-christian" didn't take the time to read up on the religion first.

I have read it, I just don't buy it which is why that whole "Kingdom of Heaven aka eternal life" is less relevant than the fact that Christians ant this to happen; this death of the world so that they can go do Heaven. You know that I said that exact same thing in >>4879305 right? You pointing that out again is pretty usesless.

>Do you think they reasoned their downfall with "it's because of the Christians durr hurr?"

>What I'm saying is blaming Christianity for the downfall of white people and western civilization is fucking retarded. There are so many contributing factors to take into account that pointing the finger at this dying religion is laughable.

Just because many things need finger pointing doesn't mean that each individual thing doesn't deserve to be pointed at, right?

Nobody's solely blaming Christianity. Christians however defend it unanimously, and that's worse.

>>4879676

>Sweden often prided itself on being the most atheist country before it cucked itself.

-> >>4879382

>>4879507

This is a decent quote, but doesn't really apply to the conflict at hand.

>>4879615

>>4879725

Ok, I'll bite:

Let's say I drop Christianity right now. Why should I care about nationalism, my race, or anything? Every single atheist I've met IRL has been a bluepilled degenerate, why shouldn't I join them?

>>4876711

>>4876732

This is actually a good thing. They can potentially convert Muslims into Christians and they would have larger numbers.

>>4879725

>people are part of a church so that makes them christian

Fedoras are the dumbest people I have ever known to exist.

>>4879779

>Let's say I drop Christianity right now. Why should I care about nationalism, my race, or anything?

Are you saying that you don't care about your nation and your race?

>Every single atheist I've met IRL has been a bluepilled degenerate, why shouldn't I join them?

Are you saying that you are a degenerate?

Those are some inherent qualities you either have or don't have. If you need something that's not required for either of those, then you have some mental problems en par with the genderfluid otherkin crowd and it would be in the interest of a healthy volk to have the grey bus put you in.

>>4879814

>the numbers matter when I want them to matter

>the numbers don't matter when I don't want them to matter

Religious people are the dumbest people I have ever known to exist.

>>4879836

Think about what this will do in the long run.

Would you rather have refugees stick with:

1. A religion that has been misused by extremists to harm others.

2. A liberal ideology that advocates degeneracy.

3. A westernized religion that promotes passiveness.

>>4879926

>Would you rather have refugees stick with:

4. I'd rather have them sticking on pikes.

Also, regarding 1 - I seriously hope you're not suggesting that Islam has to be "misused by extremists" for it to harm others.

>>4879836

>Are you saying that you don't care about your nation and your race?

I care because I have a reason to care. That reason is tied into the metaphysics of meaning attached to my religion. Without that I need a reason to continue holding that mindset. I don't see how atheism rationalizes caring about anything /pol/ cares about.

>Are you saying that you are a degenerate?

The entire point of asking the question was to show that I'm not.

>Those are some inherent qualities you either have or don't have.

So I don't have a choice in the matter?

>If you need something that's not required for either of those, then you have some mental problems en par with the genderfluid otherkin crowd and it would be in the interest of a healthy volk to have the grey bus put you in.

So nationalists should operate based on the notion that "my nation, race, and culture deserve to exist because muh feels"?

>>4879981

>I don't see how atheism rationalizes caring about anything /pol/ cares about.

Most of the stuff /pol/ cares about is tied in with human evolution.

>The entire point of asking the question was to show that I'm not.

If you're not a degenerate then you wouldn't suddenly become a degenerate.

>So I don't have a choice in the matter?

Can someone that's not a degenereate choose to be a degenerate? No.

>So nationalists should operate based on the notion that "my nation, race, and culture deserve to exist because muh feels"?

Plenty of rational thoughts behind preserving the in-group, it's certainly less "muh feels" than any religion that has maybe a handful of verses in it even mentioning something that might resemble nationalism.

You don't need to believe in whatever religion you believe in to see the negative inpact of multiculturalism. Studies like the one of Putnam or Dinesen are acurate regardless of religion.

The beauty of our views is that they're the truth and something anyone objective can see for themselves.

We'd waste that by going back to something that requires suspension of disbelief

>>4880040

>not wanting your living environment to become like Detroit

I'll give that to you, but for the effort required at this point to change that, this by itself isn't enough.

>not wanting whites to die out, replaced by blacks/Hispanics/Muslims

Why would this matter? I'm going to be dead before that happens.

>not wanting your people to die in pointless conflicts caused by Israel

My people? How are they "my" people? Because they look like me? Because we share the same geopolitical space on a map? These aren't reasons for me to give a shit about whether they live or die.

>not wanting to be constantly humiliated because you are white

Humiliated by who? I have never been humiliated for being white even by SJWs

>>4880074

>Most of the stuff /pol/ cares about is tied in with human evolution.

Except everything is also tied to the value of accomplishments of white society. It's why I'm here. Evolution by itself doesn't perpetuate meaning.

>If you're not a degenerate then you wouldn't suddenly become a degenerate.

>Can someone that's not a degenereate choose to be a degenerate? No.

You really wanna put that shit to the test?

>Plenty of rational thoughts behind preserving the in-group

Such as? What is the inherent value of preserving an in-group?

>You don't need to believe in whatever religion you believe in to see the negative inpact of multiculturalism. Studies like the one of Putnam or Dinesen are acurate regardless of religion.

>negative

Why is it negative?

>The beauty of our views is that they're the truth and something anyone objective can see for themselves.

>beauty

How is it beautiful?

The problem with your argument is you're implicitly appealing to inherent meaning, when atheism doesn't uphold any such belief.

>>4879305

The following groups hate Christian morality.

>feminists

>atheists

>gays

>pagans

>jews

The above groups often ally themselves with each other as a bulwark against Christians

(you can see this in real time on reddit in /r/atheism, for some reason atheists support gays)

Over the last 3 years we have seen gays, pagans, feminists ally themselves with the "alt right"

in this time we saw that Richard Spencer kick out a Christian from a conference because he would make a gay feel bad about himself or something.

again all you are doing is inviting Marxist created groups to fuck you up from the inside.

>>4880074

Let me make a better argument about the degeneracy bit:

If degenerate behavior is predetermined, then why do you care about the degenerate influence of ZOG propaganda?

>>4880308

You don't have a personal sense of conscience, a desire to do right apart from your belief in Christianity?

I guess I can't get my head around that, tbh. I'm not saying it's easy or that you would have to always be on fire for political activism or whatever, but non-Christians have been as dedicated as Christians in this regard. Jews are overwhelmingly atheist, but they are about as activist by nature as any group of people of earth.

>>4880542

I don't give a shit about most of this or your list. It is Jews and Christians who have historically been obsessed with controlling people's sexuality, pagan Europe mostly didn't give a shit. I don't either.

Richard Spencer is ahead of the curve. Christians have helped to drag /pol/ behind the curve, so that a bunch of people who feel bad about visiting image boards for jacking off to furries, ponies, and cuteboys have a place to go where they can talk about killing all the faggots right afterwards.

I don't want or care about that mental shit. I want to focus on issues like race, Jewish group strategy and manipulation, and other topics that are genuine.

>>4881088

WOW nigga, don't let that mask slip off too fast now.

>>4881088

>You don't have a personal sense of conscience, a desire to do right apart from your belief in Christianity?

I do, but my point is that just because I "feel" a desire to do right doesn't mean that they are strong enough to drive me to action or dictate my life. 99.9% of white people have a conscience, and yet so many of them ignore it for degeneracy. Consciences are easy to ignore without meaning behind them.

Christianity = Liberalism.

Jesus' axioms are ultra left wing. And there is no way you can twist his dogma.

Love, dont judge (tolerate), do unto others..,give the coat off your back (welfare), all are equal in Gods eyes (equality), etc.

Putting all this aside–AU is riddled with left wing cancer.

/pol/:

Defying the government to avoid paying taxes on public grazing lands? Civil Disobedience! HERO! HERO! HERO!

Defying the government to accept (gasp) Muslim refugees? LUNACY! OMG GAS THEM NAO!!

Sucks when someone exercises civil disobedience when it's outside your petty narrative, eh /pol/?

>>4884720

>you disagree with things you disagree with!

>what hypocrites!!

I guess I don't understand your argument. /pol/ has its failings, but shit man, try harder….

>>4884720

>narrative

Do you know what that word means?

>>4876711

>One of the hardest obstacles to having a more sane immigration policy will be Christian lunacy.

>Anglican

>Christian

The apostate church is not that of Christ.

>>4876711

That guy did my friends Children's Christening.

He prayed for those involved in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict and I thought he was OK. Later I realized he was not being specific at all and was a fraud.

Currently his church is undergoing major renovations. He would be worth millions.

>>4884926

>people that want to belong to a group, but are nothing like that group, do not believe anything that group believes, and do not respect that group whatsoever are part of that group, because im fedora and i say so

According to you, cultural marxism is okay, and SJWs that have infiltrated a group are actually part of that group.

Fedoras prove, once again, that they are the dumbest people in existence.

>>4884758

You fags will say this about every sect of your goofy jewish religion.

Daniel Andrews, Victorian Premier, has stated that Victoria will take in the refugees - fuck that, I don't want them here.

DO THESE PEOPLE NOT SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EUROPE??

>>4885204

They're just being good Christians, anon.

>>4885344

This is where you make them do some mental gymnastics to try to justify themselves:

'You want to house these refugees here when we have ABORIGINALS that are homeless because we STOLE their land?? For shame on you!!'

>>4885204

The Australian media rarely mention what is happening with the European invasion. It's almost entirely fucked. The publicly funded networks, that is the leftist networks like the ABC and SBS that the deciding hipster faggot classes watch, are almost all entirely pro-refugee. Which means your average politician, lawyer, journo, hipster faggot grad student and academic, are all going to be pro-refugee.

These are the people that drive society. Too bad the liberal/national party are such fucking backstabbing, shekel-counting faggots that they could have foreseen this.

>>4876792

not all Christians are like that.

Comparing Anglicans to polish Catholics or Russian orthodox, you'll see a wide variation.

>>4885435

Doesn't rupert Murdoch still own most of Aussie media?

I'm starting to think the larpers are right and Jewish originating religions such as christianity and Islam are cancer.

>>4885476

He doesn't own the parts that matter. He owns the parts that the non-cool non-governing class read (bogan readers), and the hyper neo-liberal nation wrecking globalists read (liberal party).

>>4876711

JOHN LETTER 2

KILL YOURSELF CUCKSTAIN. YOU ARE EVIL I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL.

>>4877054

>all this cognitive dissonance

>>4885604

Anglicans have been cucked more than other sects. If it's been cucked to the point of gay and female pastors, is it christian anymore?

>>4876711

Fuckin' christcucks ruining our culture AGAIN.

Lol @ the comments carefully specifying Anglican, as though other denominations are better. Any denomination that believes in charity, pity for the weak, missionary work, etc, is undermining our culture.

>>4885645

Are you atheist? Many denominations of atheists want refugees, therefore you want refugees too, cuck.

Christianity is jewish root access to the white soul. We made it "ours" over two millenia, true, but the root to our empathy is clearly there and clearly being used against us in the most evil slow and "soft war" way.

>>4885703

now you should realize how nonsensical you sound.

>>4885715

I'm the nonsensical one, yeah ok faggot.

Tell you what, you describe to me in a convincing way how the absence of religion can be divided in to denominations, and I will wear a giant paper dunce hat to work this week and post pictures.

de·nom·i·na·tion

dəˌnäməˈnāSH(ə)n/

noun

noun: denomination; plural noun: denominations

1.

a recognized autonomous branch of the Christian Church.

synonyms: religious group, sect, cult, movement, body, branch, persuasion, order, school; church

"a Christian denomination"

>>4885659

Although I wouldn't use that meme, since it gives them another reason to whine, I wouldn't hold back either.

Christians on /pol/ aren't like agnostics or atheists or pagans or people who read world mythology or religion and the like. It's not something they keep quietly to themselves or only mention in passing. Nobody would give a shit if they were quietly Christian. Ramzpaul is Christian, but he never ever talks about it.

Instead, they are constantly dragging their bullshit out and attempting to proselytize.

They are also as dumb as a box of rocks. As you can see: >>4885689

>>4885723

Denomination in the general sense. People who watch AmazingAtheist would be one example.

Christians only share a god, but they use very different bibles. How can you possibly generalize them? Look at Poland for instance, they are very christian yet very nationalist, defying the pope.

>>4885730

Oh another AmazingAtheist lover. Go stick a banana in your ass.

You know what? Fine, let him take care of some rapefugees but only on the condition that he be punished for any mischief they get into just like any dependent.

>>4885689

I was raised Christian and we belonged to several denominations, and we had some family who were Catholic. They're all cucked, and I'll tell you why: because THE BIBLE is cucked, and they're all based on it.

God on the cross coming to die for our sins (retarded as it sounds) = cucked.

Blessed are the meek = cucked.

Judge not, that you be not judged = cucked.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you = cucked.

Christianity is like the definition of cucked. Christianity is HOW European culture was cucked. It's how we got into this state.

That's not to say that it is "bad", because it gives us an opportunity to grow even stronger and better. But to do so we have to shed Christianity and overcome it and replace it with something better.

>>4885769

>>4885774

>if I say amazingatheist enough times, I win

>>4885681

> The artwork of France, the conquests of Spain, the music of Austria: those apparently have nothing to do with Christianity.

I think you inflate the part Christianity played in those.

>>4876732

They're not Christians. They're Churchians, Church of Nice adherents. Liberals with a thin veneer of Christianity. They most likely don't believe most of Christian doctrine.

>>4885803

It seemed to work when europe was homogenous and shits were killed just because people were uncivilized and you would die if you didn't kill thieves. I agree it needs some fixing to prevent repeating what's happening now.

I just can't say it's all bad because there are counter examples, and helping out your brothers (not Africans and muslims) is a good thing.

Christianity isn't going to go away, so, at least for Catholics, I'd say undo Vatican 2.

>>4885852

Find me some christians who oppose immigration and give me their correct number.

>>4885809

Sorry you're too stupid to understand the analogy.

>>4885857

Virtually every Orthodox Christian. Highest voting bloc for Front National is made up of Catholics, for example.

The Anglicans commemorate faggot marriage for fuck's sake. That's all you need to know about their bonafides as Christians.

>>4885855

Complete nonsense. I can tell you're some Anglocuck (not as in Anglican, but as in English/American). You have no idea what you're talking about. Classical art and philosophy was being studied for centuries before the Renaissance. The Renaissance itself was primarily funded by the Catholic Church, under the impetus of the Counter-Reformation.

"Rediscovering the classical world" is thin ice propaganda, sewn by protestants, and later picked up by the "Enlightenment" scam artists.

>>4885855

>no concept of anatomy even though all they had to do was look at another human (or themselves):

>feet look differently (one has toes, the other doesn't)

>right arm has 2 elbows

>left arm has none and is unnaturally contured

>6 fingers, no thumbs

>fish with humanized faces

>line art still visible

>same expression on every head on the bottom, lack of creativity

Where is the art? :^)

>>4885856

>Christianity isn't going to go away

Of course it isn't going away, all the shitskins on this planet that aren't moslems are Christians.

It's important to make it go away out of the countries that matter.

>>4885681

>>4885855

IMHO, the Italian Renaissance, for example, had nothing to do with Christianity, but Christians will attempt to take credit for it. At the same time, they will say Catholics aren't real Christians.

Replace any other denomination with Catholic. Oh, Protestants aren't real Christians? Anglicans aren't real Christians? Orthodox aren't real Christians?

If they disown any of those churches, then they also disown any argument about how Christianity had any role in the success of the West.

>>4885814

It's completely true though. The most Christian countries are the most opposed to jewish globalism and mudslime immigration, while the most anti-Christian ones are busy getting cucked.

Where is atheism and neo-paganism most prevalent? That's right: France, Germany, UK and Scandinavia. By far.

It's no coincidence that Austria is more Christian than Germany, and also more to its right politically.

>>4885892

Which is why the Renaissance "christian art" was mimicking classical greco-roman sculptures.

Renaissance is also a high time for you know, atheism.

>>4885913

>while the most anti-Christian ones are busy getting cucked.

Poor Czech Republic, poor Estonia, poor China and Japan, poor Russia (which has less Christians than Germany and Sweden)…

Clearly, it's about religion and not the fact that there's this globalist cancer that was forced upon Western Europe after WW2.

>>4885857

Are you asking me for my number?

>>4885927

Imagining the smell makes me want to vomit.

>>4885856

> It seemed to work when europe was homogenous and shits were killed just because people were uncivilized and you would die if you didn't kill thieves.

Christianity worked when only the lower classes believed in it because they were fairly powerless and the priests and rulers controlled them and they actually believed that these people were ordained by god. Unfortunately, it empowered the lower classes far too much to the extent that they were able to overthrow their leaders.

> I agree it needs some fixing to prevent repeating what's happening now.

I disagree. What's happening right now is natural and is bound to happen eventually. It's part of the growing cycle, part of evolution that one culture or system replaces another on and on ad infinitum. To desire to end that cycle, to desire that we never progress any further, would be rather pathetic.

IMO we should look for something better in the future rather than trying to fix Christianity. It served its purpose and it's time to move on.

> I just can't say it's all bad because there are counter examples, and helping out your brothers (not Africans and muslims) is a good thing.

Helping your brothers out out of pity is not a good thing, it is cucked and unnatural. You should help others because it possess some value and it's beneficial to you to do so, not because you believe you'll be rewarded in Heaven for subjugated the laws of life and of a strong culture. Carrying dead weight and helping the weak and degenerates to survive has negative value for a culture.

> Christianity isn't going to go away…

Sure it is. It's already on its way out. It might temporarily come back due to the crises facing us at the moment, but if we are ever to progress into a stronger culture, it will have to vanish or at least be tamed and conquered. As soon as we overcome this current crisis we will start to degenerate again if we're still under Christianity. In fact, I actually don't believe that Christianity is the answer to this crisis.

>>4885914

It wasn't mimicking greco-roman sculptures at all, you philistine. It was mimicking nature, with the view that art should be good, beautiful and true, i.e. reflect the natural order of things which is itself good, beautiful and true. You still fail to understand that Christianity is fundamentally a Hellenic religion, and that the Bible pushing bullshit only started to take root during the reformation. You confuse Protestantism (being an Anglocuck heathen yourself) with non-degenerate Christianity.

And it is ultimately a brute fact of history that the Catholic Church itself, the Popes, funded the overwhelming majority of artistic endeavours all the way up to the middle of the 17th century (i.e. throughout the Renaissance), when the major funders became rich burghers and noblemen.

>>4885933

Funny, that reminds me of the Brothers Karamazov, where the body of the dead saint began to smell.

I wonder if the Christians here will ever get the chance to smell their paradise in West Africa. The land where Christ is truly king.

>>4885927

You posted information that proves my point. You need to get better at shilling your retarded views. Within Europe, there is a clear division between pro-Christian and anti-Christian countries, and the spectrum correlates very well with who is or isn't getting cucked with immigrants. Including African countries in your list matters jack shit: they're not in Europe, and they're not getting flooded by immigrants.

Try again.

>>4885942

How long are you going to play this no true Christian shit?

You know the Catholics are fucking cucked right?

And no, christian art in the Middle Ages look nothing like in nature, they look like children's drawing. Only in the Renaissance that the style changes back to greco-roman style.

>>4885942

>And it is ultimately a brute fact of history that the Catholic Church itself, the Popes, funded the overwhelming majority of artistic endeavours all the way up to the middle of the 17th century (i.e. throughout the Renaissance), when the major funders became rich burghers and noblemen.

I don't think the 17th century part is true, but whatever. The real answer is that the Church sucked so much wealth out of the community that they were in the best position to do so.

Oh, also Jews. The Church handed the Jews a monopoly on money lending, so they were extremely wealthy as well. However, they didn't seem to commission nearly as many artworks.

>>4885958

You know nothing of art or the history of art champ. I'm not playing any "no true scotsman" card: Anglicans recognise the perversion that is gay marriage. Faggotry is explicitly prohibited both in the Bible, as well as by Holy Tradition. This alone invalidates any claim they might have had to being Christians.

You on the other hand, sound like a shill.

By the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

>>4885957

>there is a clear division between pro-Christian and anti-Christian countries, and the spectrum correlates very well with who is or isn't getting cucked with immigrants

Czech Republic, not cucked with immigrants.

Estonia, not cucked with immigrants.

Christian majority Germany under the rule of pastor's daughter Merkel, head of the Christian Democratic Union, cucked with immigrants.

Explain.

>>4885969

You're trying to explain away a fact, Mr. Schlomo. The Catholic Church funded art up till the mid 1600s.

>>4885979

The exceptions that prove the rule. Merkel is an atheist, by the way.

>>4885973

Look up medieval art and compare them to renaissance art and see for yourself.

And no, instead of fucking taking responsibility for the cucked christians, you are just going to divide yourself further.

All branches of Christianity are cucked except maybe Mormonism and Orthodox.

>>4885957

The most religious countries in Europe - Macedonia, Romania - are holes.

The most atheist countries in Europe - Czech Republic, France, Germany - are successful.

The Czech Republic, the most atheist country in Europe, has mostly turned its back on refugees.

You are the dumbest people on /pol/.

They really should start banning Christians on this board. You are too stupid to contribute.

>>4885934

I agree there's no reason to carry deadweight but there are people who had shit luck, who lost family or something and could get back on their feet.

The main thing is if you make something completely new, you risk fucking things up that weren't fucked, or making something that becomes outdated and completely unstable (like islam).

I dunno the solution but I guess we agree something is pretty wrong. I only defend Christianity because it is one of the better systems.

>>4885987

>Merkel is an atheist, by the way.

Angela Merkel is a Lutheran member of the Evangelical Church in Berlin, Brandenburg and Silesian Upper Lusatia (German: Evangelische Kirche Berlin-Brandenburg-schlesische Oberlausitz - EKBO), a United Protestant (i.e. both Reformed and Lutheran) church body under the umbrella of the Evangelical Church in Germany (EKD).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel#Religion

You know what correlates even more with how cucked a country is?

Whether it was under the atheist rule of the Soviet Union or the Christian rule of globalist Murica.

>>4885998

Are you too stupid to notice the two are hardly correlated?

Maybe take a basic science class.

>>4885987

No, faggot, your claim was that they

>funded the overwhelming majority of artistic endeavours all the way up to the middle of the 17th century

I know for a fact that is not true. However, you are welcome to show us all evidence that the overwhelming majority of artistic commissions and purchases of art, architecture, literature, music, and sculpture were done by the Catholic Church into the mid 17th century.

>>4886002

> I only defend Christianity because it is one of the better systems.

Once you realize that Christianity is literally the mechanism by which European culture was cucked, and that we need to become uncucked, you'll realize that Christianity must go and be replaced by something better!

>>4886028

>and be replaced by something better!

With what though?

>>4885969

> the Church sucked so much wealth out of the community

This is also dogshit from a historically illiterate cretin: the combined tax levies of the Church and the State in the middle ages was BELOW 10% – lower than the tithe.

>>4885992

I am a lot more familiar with art and art history than you, you philistine. Renaissance art looks NOTHING like greco-roman art, except in-so-far as both traditions aim for realism.

>>4886007

No, Merkel is an atheist. Her membership is nominal only, like the majority of its members, since you get registered at birth.

>>4886020

From Michelangelo to Bernini, their works were sponsored by the Church. You are historically illiterate, quite literally.

>>4886028

The only reason the Industrial Revolution even happened is because the Catholic Church banned inbreeding and infanticide, and enforced monogamy much more strongly than the Roman state ever did. You are clueless.

>>4876732

>old women

Probably all just as- if not more brainwashed than the rest of them.

>>4885730

>They are also as dumb as a box of rocks.

It's the atheists and the pagans who deny the value of truth. Pagans, because they love race too much, atheists because they can't really say that anything has value, without lying.

>>4886048

>No, Merkel is an atheist.

Citation needed.

>Her membership is nominal only, like the majority of its members, since you get registered at birth.

It doesn't bother Christians whether it's nominal only when talking about how Christianity was what made Europe great just because the people that did were Christians (because they had to be) :^)

It's either or, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Also, what's wrong with atheism when the former countries of the atheist Soviet Union are pretty unanimously less cucked than Western Europe that got "saved" by the Americans?

You can see this in Germany where all the big anti-immigration rallies are in former DDR states.

>>4886039

I don't know what the future will bring. :-)

>>4886048

> From Michelangelo to Bernini, their works were sponsored by the Church. You are historically illiterate, quite literally.

What is your point? The Church sponsored some artists that many on /pol/ like to fap to, so…?

>>4886054

> The only reason the Industrial Revolution even happened is because the Catholic Church banned inbreeding and infanticide, and enforced monogamy much more strongly than the Roman state ever did. You are clueless.

Sure. Note that I've never said that the influence of Christianity was a bad thing, only that it's run its course, we've now outgrown it, and it will be lost and replaced.

>>4886085

>It's the atheists and the pagans who deny the value of truth.

The truth is what you declare as truth, right? While you dismiss the truth others declare as truth as lies because it's not your truth even though it came to be in the exact same way?

>they love race too much

Well, at least you're open about how Christianity is the enemy of the white peoples.

>>4885803

>Blessed are the meek = cucked.

Nope. The cucked are both strong and cursed.

You read that right. The cucked are driving these nations of ours to ruin. Weak people could not manage that. However, we are the 'meek'- the ones who stick with Truth, Justice..

We are never strong, but we will always win.

>Judge not, that you be not judged

Those who judge others are judged even more harshly. This is because of two reasons.

>Christians are meant to be perfect, and are not allowed the pleasures of double standards.

>Those who enter Heaven will be punished in this Earthly life for their sins

>Do unto others…

How is this cucked? If you want others to cuck you, you cuck them…

>>4886091

>The truth is what you declare as truth, right?

To an atheist, logic itself has no meaning beyond the alternative. To a pagan, they'd rather lose all aspects of knowledge / ideals than losing their race.

>>4886091

>enemy of the white people

"White people" don't exist. Polish people, Finns, Germans.. They exist.

I'd rather marry a 130 IQ black girl than 70 IQ white one.

>you evil person, valuing quality over race!!

>>4886124

>To an atheist, logic itself has no meaning beyond the alternative

What does that even mean?

>To a pagan, they'd rather lose all aspects of knowledge / ideals than losing their race.

Sounds like a strawman to me.

>>4886133

>misquoting so that your little hissy fit makes sense

White peoples. Peoples. I know that there are differences between them.

>I'd rather marry a 130 IQ black girl than 70 IQ white one.

You're the same Christcuck that would have his daughter marry a godly nigger, right? :^)

Does someone have the screencap?

>>4886104

> We are never strong, but we will always win.

Sounds like doublespeak.

> Those who judge others are judged even more harshly.

Implying there's some kind of big invisible dude up there who's going to be judging anyone.

>> Do unto others…

> How is this cucked? If you want others to cuck you, you cuck them…

Because strong people cuck others without being cucked in return. Not cucking others in the hopes that nobody will cuck you only makes sense to the weak. "Don't cuck me you big bully or god will punish you!"

>>4886141

>What does that even mean?

That they value alternatives to truth just as much. Say, lies or fantasy. The problem with atheism is that it does not put any meaningful evaluations onto anything without putting it everywhere. Or taking them from one place takes them everywhere.

In an atheistic world, there is no qualitative difference between taking a step on concrete and whether holocaust happened. It all goes down to 0. Nobody lives like that, though. It's not "convenient" enough. However, due to them not living their lives in a rational manner (according to their claimed axioms), their lives become a series of trade-offs.

This is the problem with atheism.

>Sounds like a strawman to me.

It isn't. Pagans have no loyalty to ideals- they even love making this point. Some, here on 8/pol/ even bragged about wanting to be pillaging rapists. But hey, they lump Germanic / Norse paganism together with Hellenism, can't expect too much from them.

>>4886147

>We are never strong, but we will always win.

>Sounds like doublespeak.

Strong don't win, if the future belongs to the meek.

>>4886157

Y'know, I'd really, really love to remove all low IQ plebians (like you and most niggers) from the face of this Earth.

>>4886133

Would you rather marry a 130 IQ atheist or a 70 IQ christcuck?

>>4886198

130 IQ atheist. I doubt the 70 IQ girl could understand Christianity.

>>4886157

>>130 IQ sheboon

joj

>>4886203

And you found the reason for atheism - low IQ.

>>4885473

So, which ones don't have "Missionaries", eh?

>>4886203

Well, Christianity is pretty popular in Africa and their average IQ is about 70, so..

>>4886206

They exist. I used it as an example, because this still holds true:

Individual quality > collective quality

Sure, their genes go towards the average, but only towards it, not into it. Understand?

The reason African average IQ is so low, is that the calculations take the majority into account. They should be excluded as non-human, like most plebians.

>>4886185

Strong wins over weak by definition until you try to redefine the terms from the vantage point of weakness.

> weak is strong

> poor is rich

See the resemblance to doublespeak?

>>4885513

> I'm starting to think the larpers are right and Jewish originating religions such as christianity and Islam are cancer.

Earlier this decade:

> I'm starting to think the NatSoc larpers are right and Hitler did nothing wrong, the Jews are out to cause cancer.

>>4886222

Nah, it has more to do with the 'unexpected' or the 'underdog' winning than either losers winning or the expected to win.

>>4886237

Oh, gee. IQ correlates so strongly with good qualities that it isn't even funny. Qualities like beauty, health, talent…

It does not automatically cause them, but come on..

>>4885513

>>4886226

Jews got scared and are using all of the western institutions as meatshields.

>>4886246

and yet the lowest whites(for instance in Appalachia in the US) still have lower rates of crime then almost all black areas rich and poor. crime hormones, temperament, all play as large a factor as IQ. I'm not trying to downplay IQ but Mixing and creating a new race eg mulattoes creates a person who is extremely unique and their ability to accept marrow is extremely hampered, it would not be a risk I would personally take just my 2 cents.

>>4886284

edit *remove the second crime

>>4886284

Brazil is full of mulattos and Mexico of mixed spics, both are complete shitholes.

Mulattos are just as bad as full blooded niggers most of the time.

>>4886284

>yet the lowest whites(for instance in Appalachia in the US) still have lower rates of crime then almost all black areas rich and poor

If same level of quality would be demanded in University/College entries, those statistics would show that class > race.

I mean, white trash IS around the same level as fucking gypsies. I refuse to believe that the group of blacks I'm talking about (Thomas Sowell and blacks of his level) go around committing crimes like that.

Genetic diseases etc. are nothing to laugh at, though.

>>4886307

>Morality, when you break it down is just a group survival mechanism, dogs, monkeys, dolphins, and even some blacks display it as helping the group survives helps ensure that some of the group will survive to reproduce.

Not true. Morality is giving a preference order to instincts and actions which have that purpose.

>>4886298

Generally speaking. Theoretical actions in a theoretical situation for two individuals =/= the actions of my nation.

>>4886317

Morality on it's most basic level is empathy, It is instinctual.

>>4886340

It has that aspect to it. But it is giving certain and very specific preferences to competing instincts. Such as: self interest, group interest…

However, morality is reasonable. Or was, until the latest centuries.

>>4886363

Humans weren't meant to live in such large groups. Humans were evolved to deal with a maximum of what, around a 150 other people?

Humans just aren't able to care about thousands or billions of other people.

>>4886376

Without knowledge.*

How many blue pills instantly switch after they receive knowledge?

>>4876711

And how many of them will deny this to their grave?

Christcucks will NEVER admit to it; but they are part of the POZ.

But; it won't matter soon! Remember the Riddler and the Airborne Ebola!

>>4886419

>Christcucks will NEVER admit to it; but they are part of the POZ.

Or perhaps Christians are separated from their respective churches? You think that all those leaving the churches are non-believers? Ha.

>tfw i was christened by this person

I don't even know how to feel. Put me down call it a mercy killing.

Until the christians on this board have some kind of public voice where they publicly condemns their bad elements, this is just damage control not all christians bullshit.

The majority of christians are cucked, get over it.

>>4886487

Same applies to pagans and atheists. All of us Europeans, Americans..

Come the fuck on.

>>4886501

except atheists have cleaned up their own house, Atheism Plus was destroyed.

Not sure about the pagans, but the ones in America are "alt-right" and the ones in Europe are vigilantes.

And fuck no, majority of americans aren't pozzed, we still oppose immigration and gun control by the majority.

>>4876903

>Protestants once again proving that the only good thing that came from their schisms and "reformations" was the Counter-Reformation.

Meanwhile in Rome, the pope is inviting more migrants to come in.

>>4886524

>except atheists have cleaned up their own house, Atheism Plus was destroyed.

>Not sure about the pagans, but the ones in America are "alt-right" and the ones in Europe are vigilantes.

Neither represents the mainstream of their movements.

>>4886660

Leviticus 19:34

>>4886641

Pagan has no mainstream movement, all the most popular have been listed.

The face of atheism of Richard Dawkins and he's very anti-islam.

>>4886714

>The face of atheism of Richard Dawkins

Dawkins got excommunicated by Atheism because he wouldn't accept feminist dogma

>>4886739

Who's the face of atheism now if not him?

>>4886713

>no idea what a sojourner is

>>4886743

>has to mentally exchange "stranger" for "sojourner" so that his religion doesn't cuck his shit up

>>4886756

>33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

>34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Gee, it's like you can't even read.

In case you missed it:

> if a stranger sojourn

> if a stranger sojourn

> if a stranger sojourn

> if a stranger sojourn

> if a stranger sojourn

> if a stranger sojourn

> if a stranger sojourn

>>4886785

Do you think that this is also for invaders?

>>4886714

>Paganism has no mainstream movement

You have Varg, who made his life's mission to go after Christianity, rather than Judaism. Then you have Wicca, New age, neopaganism, being a skinhead..

Glorious future of

>nothing changes

Will happen, but only if you become a pagan.

>>4886835

I don't think invaders stay temporarily.

>>4886340

Bullshit, I thought it was justice? Make up your fucking mind, /pol/.

There are a lot of cucked Churches in Australia. Especially the Uniting Church. They don't even care that they're literally accelerating the death of Christianity by supporting Muslim immigration.

>>4876885

The Anglican Diocese of Sydney is still pretty based and it's the only Anglican Diocese in Australia that is actually growing rather than declining.

>3 months ago

>couldn't make a post on /pol/ that was anti-desert trilogy without a swarm of deus vult faggots

>now

>christcucks helping invaders and actively shilling for the death of the white race and the enshittening of our lands

>suddenly the christcuck posters on /pol/ are silent

You guys laughed at pagans and atheists. Now who is laughing? Christians are jew slaves, Christianity is a jewish religion, Christians are race traitors and pro-rapefugee cuckolds. Stop calling them refugees. They're INVADERS. This isn't some flight from war. Why would military aged healthy men flee from war, especially in a war-like religion obsessed with conquest like islam? This is an invasion. If you call them refugees, you are the problem.

Either worship the gods of your ancestors or worship nothing. Christianity has caused nothing but suffering and decline for the white race. It encourages us to become docile in the face of invasion, to coddle the weak, addicted, retarded, deformed, and shitskins. It's the opposite of what makes the white race brilliant. It's basically no child left behind on the scale of the entire society.

>>4877540

>no true scotsman

CIDF pls go.

>>4885723

>noun: denomination; a recognized autonomous branch of the Christian Church. synonyms: religious group, sect, cult, movement, body, branch, persuasion, order, school; church "a Christian denomination"

>>4885730

>Denomination in the general sense.

See, this is the shit right here. You're objectively wrong, so you feel you have the right to redefine dictionary definitions to make yourself right.

>>4887201

They died out when there was the info leak that every major Christian branch was helping invaders into Europe and America, and generally making a lot of money doing it too

There was also "based Anderson" openly supporting race mixing and revealing that he had jewish blood on his mother's side

>>4876711

What a bunch of cucks.

>>4886133

>"White people" don't exist.

>I'd rather marry a 130 IQ black girl than 70 IQ white one.

>What is regression to the mean?

>What are genetic distances?

>What are recessive traits?

You'd rather marry a black girl because you're nigger-tier retarded

>>4876711

>Met the 2IC of St John's at a Freemason function (he's a Past Grand Master) a while ago

>"THE BOATS" were a hot button topic at the time

>He says that all the leftists and bleeding hearts will be the undoing of the country and the church, that Christ didn't advocate destructive masochism

Guess he was right.

Obviously Revelation 9:3 puppets

>>4884720

It's almost like the govt. is right about some things and wrong about others, eh chaim?

>>4886218

>>4886203

>I doubt the 70 IQ girl could understand Christianity.

>Well, Christianity is pretty popular in Africa and their average IQ is about 70, so…

SHOTS FUCKING FIRED

OFFER YOUR OWN HOMES TO THEM

YEAH DIDN'T THINK SO CUNT

>>4886048

>the combined tax levies of the Church and the State in the middle ages was BELOW 10% – lower than the tithe.

That's not even coherent.

The tithe, meaning one tenth or 10%, was what the Church taxed the populace. This was in addition to any other governmental taxes.

> Middle Ages, the Catholic church in Europe collected a tax of its own, separate from the kings' taxes, which was called a tithe. Tithe means "one-tenth", because people were supposed to give the Church one-tenth of all the income they earned. The priests and bishops kept the tithes in tithe barns like this one.

http://quatr.us/medieval/religion/tithes.htm

There was not a lot of excess wealth to go around then. 10% was high.

>>4887983

Now how can the christcucks explain this?

Render into Caesar bullshit, the Church is just crypto-kike.

>All christians are crazy pro immigrants

>But we hate it when you call us fat fedora tipping LARPagans. We're not all like that

>>4888286

Most world religions, whether that be paganism or Buddhism or whatever, are pretty apolitical.

The Abrahamic religions are not, as they have always been intolerant, and sought out the aid or control of the state in whatever form it exists to wipe out competing religions, or at least keep them under control.

You follow an Abrahamic religion, one that was actually founded by a group who have historically been hostile to whites, and even to the existence of whites. Your religion has, time and again, been manipulated towards Jewish interests. No surprise, as Jews are at the very core of your religion.

You guys are a problem. And as >>4887201 notes, you for the longest time made any relevant discussion on these topics toxic, even though they are very relevant to issues like immigration.

The turning point was >>4887251, and we have only scratched the surface.

>>4888126

World on atheism: Mars colonies and fast internet.

World on Xtianity: Forever wars, love thy neighbor, and "Israel is our greatest ally."

DAILY REMINDER THAT THE ONLY PATH TO SALVATION IS FAITH IN OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST

You also need to DEUS VULT all kebab

>>4876892

>>4876863

Funny, every SJW I see is young, most of the boomers are Trump supporters.

>>4888758

Funny. The white race was blossoming and booming back in the Greek/Roman days before christcucks were a thing. Didn't Xtians sack Rome? Huh. Maybe a sandkike religion branded to europeans by semites might be bad for us. Like everything else jews present to us. Huh. Hmm. Hmmmm…

>>4877054

What a lame-ass excuse!

If a church can show no loyalty to citizens of the society within which it resides, then it is no better than the worst leftard organization out there.

Quite trying to apologize for them, you're just looking foolish.

>>4888798

No, Germanic Pagans sacked Rome.

>>4888798

> Didn't Xtians sack Rome?

No. They were sacked by Germanic pagan scum.

>>4888726

>World on atheism: Mars colonies and fast internet.

Funny…a Catholic set us on the path to reach the moon…

>>4888783

Nah. Almost all boomer women, even in red states, are voting for shillary cunton because she has a vagina. Boomer men are too fat and emasculated; I wouldn't be surprised if they voted bernie for retirement gibs.

>work all your life in the most prosperous period of any civilization, ever

>easily get a fantastic job with a high school diploma, high pay to do nothing all day

>save nothing, spend everything and more, have three houses, four cars, and a boat

>zero investments and a reverse mortgage

>fuck the nation up by selling us out to china and mexico

>expect your children to pay for your retirement when they can't even afford rent at a crackhouse with three roommates

>>4888826

>Funny…a Catholic set us on the path to reach the moon…

I'm sure him being a white male scientist was only a secondary factor in that, right? :^)

>>4888809

>>4888812

>Roman peace’ was menaced by invasions of Germanic peoples from beyond the frontiers of the Rhine and the Danube. Among them were the Visigoths,

>The Visigoths appeared outside the city in force and the senate prepared to resist, but in the middle of the night rebellious slaves opened the Salarian Gate to the attackers, who poured in and set fire to the nearby houses.

>The palaces of the aristocracy were looted, Romans who resisted were killed and women raped by the Visigoths or by slaves

>Being Arian Christians, the Visigoths

>being christians

>https://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/visigoths-sack-rome

Second link on google.

>>4880040

If only she was a real blonde.

>>4888917

You forget that by then, the Roman Empire was Christian as well.

http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/video-of-polish-priests-speech-slamming-islam-goes-viral

do it the polish way

remove cucks

>>4889002

But Christianity united Europe! What are you saying, I can't even just ave just deus vult just.

>>4888826

>>4888873

Anon, he might have been talking about this.

Zambia is overwhelmingly Christian, which does put them at the forefront of human development.

>>4889002

>"Xtianity united europe"

>Roman Xtians and Visigoth Xtians fought and brought down the greatest civilization ever

>Rome was flourishing when it was pagan

>it turns Xtian and falls to the foreign hordes

>but Xtianity saved the white race

Hmm. A lot of mental gymnastics.

Also, you fuckers made me watch that horrible Agora movie. You'd think you would remember the Xtian role in the fall of Rome.

>>4889056

the jews killed rome don't believe for a second it was entirely le barbarians fault, the jews facilitated the barabrian incursions via hundreds of years of subversion and muh refugee bullshit

not all of them were bad, the visigoths and the ostrogoths are just especially huge dicks who were unable to control their desires so they fucked everything up along the way to their eventual settled destination, where neither tribe made any headway and were eventually conquered and put to the sword by the local basque/celtic mongrels

Jews to blame for the refugee influxes that strained and destroyed rome's foundation and structure, as land was harder to come by during the later eras, because veterans were so mistreated by their own government that taxed them far too much.

It's rather indicative of a pattern of behaviour foisted on great nations. Pushing pathological altruism to its absolute breaking point

>>4889154

Subtle…

>>4888847

Trump is a boomer.

>>4876711

Good. That's the Christian way. Fuck off, nationalists.

>>4889056

>>4889037

Europe as we know it is Europe only because of Christianity. Unification =/= identical in every way. Is there even a family where nobody ever argues?

However, if Christendom would have managed to defend itself better, what we know as European would include the Mediterranean altogether.

>>4889677

That's some low quality shillin' ya got there mate.

>>4889677

Anglicans are not Christians.

They're social liberals, crypto-masons, heretics masquerading as Christians.

https://archive.is/brCJl

>>4889169

DELETE THIS