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YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS

File: 1454935155607.jpg (189.45 KB, 727x692, 727:692, Natlib.jpg)

e12ed9 No.4887092

Natsoc impersonators

From the people that brought you /leftypol/, /intl/ and the like.

So, I've been seeing shitflinging from people who call themselves Natsocs and Libertarians/Paleoconservatives, or overall Non-socialist /pol/acks.

But the giveaway is that although they try to mask themselves as Natsocs they do not speak the same way as real Natsocs do, they use /leftypol/ premises, rethoric and emotional responses, not to mention many strawman and derailing/non-sensical deviations.

>Typical shill tactics

They also spam (enfasis on spam) some terms like lolbertarian. And say all free-market/economically right-wing anons are Ancaps (for some reason). And then use that strawman to always argue against Capitalist Anarchism (which very few free-marketers here actually defend)

>Their tactics remind me of the NATO anti-Russia shills, who spam: Jewtin, RIDF and just make noise and start shit flinging.

Usually Natsocs tend to disagree with total-free marketers but have structured functional opinions which tend to be reasonable. I've seen and talked to such anons in the pass.

While the "natsoc" shills just shitfling against free-market ideas, because being that they are just disguised lefties they wouldn't be able to actually portray/display proper Natsoc ideas without being totally detected, so they just attack the non-socialists.

Real Natsocs please give me your input, and if you haven't noticed, then pay attention.

It's classical divide and conquer

Inb4 this thread get shilled and derrailed, just watch

5ffa69 No.4887137

File: 1454935822634.png (63.38 KB, 720x534, 120:89, liberals.png)

I've seen the same thing. And it's not the first time.

Even though leftypol does not consider Natsocs "real" socialists they often impersonate them to cause divide, since it's the closer they can get to imitating us. Anything else they can even begin to compreend.

Natsoc they understand a little bit, but still not enough, that's why they mostly attack and don't state their own political solutions/opinions, like you said.

People need to see this thread.


c9f001 No.4887147

>>4887092

Personally I largely dislike libertarians, because their ideas appear uncivilized and under naive motion that free market will fix everything. This would only work if there were no kikes. I do understand where they are coming from and many want great things, but they fail to realize that when you allow everything - everything shifts to the lowest common denominator. That means tumblristas, kike subversion and other crap. Libertarianism doesn't work without traditional values. The problem is, when society's only ideal is money and the only philosophy is how to get more of it - you create environment where one wants to jew one another for money and the system encourages it. Not everyone can be a millionaire - you still need workers. You can't make sure that money stays in circulation in a libertarian system. Give it ten years and you'll have a set of elite that'll never get deposed, their children will never lack anything and entry/exit from this clique will be very rare occurrence. The rest will dwell on scraps.

In my own ideal vision of an ideal natsoc state, free market would only dictate non-strategic resources, alternative education and day-to-day trades. Industry has to be handled by both enterpreneurs and state. Like in Nazi Germany and huge industrial complexes. A nation needs to be unified - rich and poor need to be their nationality first, status second. There is no country without the poor and there is little non-material progress without the rich.


e12ed9 No.4887171

File: 1454936190222.jpg (81.75 KB, 602x960, 301:480, otto_correct.jpg)

>>4887147

See?

This is a proper Natsoc. Well strutured arguments. And reasonable.

>Libertarianism doesn't work without traditional values.

That's why most of us here are Nationalist Libertarians. Small state that conserves traditions and proper values, not just free-market ideals.


a5f1c2 No.4887175

Not really related to the OP, but I figured there would be some natsocs here to talk to.

I've been thinking about systems of government recently and I'm kinda curious about the mechanics.

My current understanding is that it's sort of like a country where every corporation is a B-corporation, sharing the two goals of benefiting the country and making profits. Is that about right? or is it a more state-owned system, with the government being the ultimate owner or co-owner of every business?


2115ef No.4887189

>>4887175

Read Francis Delaisi and Gottfried Feder. Especially Delaisi, a French economist who lived in NS Germany for a while and wrote a book about the economical system.


e12ed9 No.4887204

>>4887175

I would like to hear from them about that as well.


107525 No.4887236

>>4887189

Can you do a short version?

Like which one of the two that anon mentions is closer?


2115ef No.4887244

>>4887236

>Like which one of the two that anon mentions is closer?

Closer to what?


e12ed9 No.4887252

>>4887244

>every corporation is a B-corporation, sharing the two goals of benefiting the country and making profits. Is that about right? or is it a more state-owned system, with the government being the ultimate owner or co-owner of every business?

I assume he means which one of these two options is closer.


810b9f No.4887309

libertards only use is as cannon fodder


cb339a No.4887313

>>4887092

It's because ancap is just principled libertarianism. If you follow the principles to their logical end, you get ancap. Just like if you follow feminism to its logical end you get what we have today. It is very hard to take something based on principles while resisting the slippery downward slope.

So even if libertardians say they support nationalism and closed borders and so on, their ideology has these anarchistic tendencies cooked right into the premises, so that is the direction the ideology will take in practice (just as the USA already did operating under classical liberal premises). Not to mention 90% of libertarians support open borders, anti-racism, Jews owning everything, etc. So why even use such a flawed foundation in the first place if we already know where it leads?


810b9f No.4887328


2115ef No.4887329

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>>4887252

Ah I understand better now but what is a B-corporation?

>>4887236

>Can you do a short version?

In a nutshell, Delaisi's book focuses on an aspect of the NS economy which he calls "étalon travail" which in English would be something like "work standard" (for comparision, gold standard in French is "étalon or").

It's more or less a system of fixing prices in accordance with the cost of work.

For those who wonder why this book hasn't been translated into English, simple: it was republished in French only a few years ago. But it defenitely needs to be translated in English, it's an important book.

Léon Degrelle has also spoken about the economic system but it's only in French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq69Nv2WekE


703182 No.4887334

Anyway, we can all sit back and discuss ideology when we have won.

Now it's not the time for internal debate, that's for after the celebration party.


1c96b4 No.4887353

I'm kind new to politics.

I find myself lost with all the ancaps, natsocs, etc, the main political stance I've been able to kinda grasp so far is Fascism.

I don't understand how we would want fascism while freedom of speech is the only thing keeping us alive. I thought we don't want the gov watching us either?


a9437a No.4887354

>>4887147

Your arguments are sound, here's the problem with your dislike of libertarians, there is a divide as to what libertarianism actually means. Many libertarians on this board would probably agree that strong arm tactics are needed to first cleanse the country of jews who subvert us and other races who are incompatible with living in a free society before implementing freedom in a white ethnostate.

Heck, most libertarians on here propose to be AGAINST international free trade. We're at a point where the term as lost its meaning. I grew up around libertarians of the pacific northwest. These are the guys who dug bunkers on their land where they kept 50 guns in anticipation of the UN invasion. They were very traditional in the values, they were mostly quite religious and a bit older. These guys were ALL ABOUT "get the fuck off my land before I shoot," they were noot your college hipster libertarians. I can see where people who grew up around these guys might have nationalistic tendencies similar to most of /pol/, yet they call themselves libertarians. The past 10 years of libertarianism has taken a very dark turn as Ron Paul and Gary Johnson brought in all manner of college undesirables who were leftists in everything but name that changed the face of the "libertarian movement." Most of the older libertarians mostly went into the Tea Party, and after that got subverted they simply got absorbed into the greater conservative movement, feeling the need to break elite control of the country first, before any of their principles can be implemented.

At this point, I think it's a lost term, it means whatever anybody what's it to mean, which makes it very easy to shill against. There are a few different types of NatSocs, some who are bigger government than others, and the smaller government groups probably see eye to eye with the libertarians of /pol/ on a vast majority of issues, maybe all issues, but because of where they grew up or whatever it may be, one calls himself a libertarian and the other calls himself a NatSoc without even realizing they're on the same team.

>>4887092

Agreed, it's been pretty easy to shill against both libertarians (of the /pol/ variety) and NatSocs for the following reasons: since libertarianism means so many things to different people, it's easy to associate them with other people of the same label but have very different views (like John Stossel for example.) As for NatSocs, and much of /pol/ in general (though /pol/ has been getting better at sniffing it out) it's been easy to shill by posing something to be against the jew or associating something with the jew without any greater substance to the claim. This gets a lot of newer NatSocs to bite. JIDF and other shill groups have used this to disguise themselves as NatSocs and begin the process of normalizing left wing ideas and arguments posed from being within the NatSoc camp. They do get caught sometimes, but not nearly enough, some of the newer posters have been fooled. You're exactly right OP, the biggest giveaway has been the premises they argue from in the first place, which come straight from a Marxist textbook.

Be vigilant we under constant attack here, especially when our countries are on the verge of finally pushing back against Zog and we need to be very strong in unity to help push this along as best we can.


cb339a No.4887360

>>4887171

>Small state that conserves traditions and proper values, not just free-market ideals.

Except free market is inherently opposed to traditions and proper values. That is why all major companies in existence are opposed to tradition and values, since those things are bad for profits. The free market wants feminism because it increases the labor pool and because women spend more frivolously than men. The free market wants homosexuals for the same reason. The free market wants open borders. The free market wants free trade. The invisible hand crushes nationalism because barriers between people and nations are bad for profits. Different cultures are bad for profits. Intolerance is bad for profits. Non-hedonist values are bad for profits.

Libertarians need to face the facts that capitalism and free market are the cause of most problems today.


a9437a No.4887366

>>4887353

I wouldn't worry about labels too much. I'm not trying to be pretentious and say "labels are for plebs," but I can't say I agree with NatSocs on literally every issue, nor do I agree with libertarians on literally every issue, I'm just a nationalistic looking to do what is best for my people, which is my race and, by extension, my country not only in protecting them but ensuring they have the best quality of life and freedom to pursue their dreams as possible. I pretty much approach every issue from that mindset.


785e2d No.4887391

I don't like Liberaltarians much at all. Although since they're mostly right wing and are a safe transitionary between basic bitch ((NeoConservativism)) and Nationalism/Fascism I tolerate them.


1c96b4 No.4887406

>>4887366

Agreed. The wellness of our people should be at the heart of our beliefs first and foremost.


785e2d No.4887407

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Also most people on here are capitalists. Criticizing the Jewish capitalism is worse than trying to criticize Israel to an Evangelical.


f22a9c No.4887408

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>>4887353

Media manipulation and censorship is much worse under democracy, friend


c9f001 No.4887413

>>4887354

I have nothing to say but to agree with unity is the most important part now and everyone needs to do their part to win over the people.

On an unrelated note, how expensive is pacific northwest for a tourist? I assume you are from Oregon or Washington. I want to come visit for 3 months or so and I don't know how much money I'd need. I don't want to hang out in the cities, but mostly nature and small towns. Would 5 grand be enough? I don't talk about being frugal everyday, but not bombastic either. Is there a site I can visit? Is there a place where I'm likely to meet a /pol/lack?


785e2d No.4887421

>>4887353

You are under chains, my friend.

Held down and forced into a losing racial and spiritual war.

We, our people, cannot hope to survive and thrive until we toss off our chains and fight.


785e2d No.4887436

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a5f1c2 No.4887438

>>4887329

>Ah I understand better now but what is a B-corporation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation

Basically, it's a company that is legally bound to not only maximise profits, but to accomplish some specific task, like managing wildlife, maintaining a charity, etc… Like a non-profit, but for-profit.


0bcdc9 No.4887443

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/pol/ would never accecpt socialism under the guise of liberalism, but under the guise of nationalism they think that we will accept every bit of it.


0bcdc9 No.4887451

>>4887171

If socialism ever takes root on /pol/ it will over time turn this board into just another leftist shithole.

People on /pol/ don't realize how serious this is.


0e839c No.4887457

>>4887360

There hasn't been a free market in the world since the 1800's. That's why the term "crony capitalism" exists. It's an overused term, but it's simple enough and gets the basic idea across that a govt which has undue influence over the markets it's supposedly created to protect, is going to play king maker.

The entire banking crisis should give massive evidence that we do not have a free market. Everything about the crisis, the easy loans, the bloated housing prices, and the ultimate bailout, were all influenced and inadvertently orchestrated by the govt.


136d69 No.4887463

>>4887092

Too be honest I can't really respect lolbergs after the /intl/ "rulecuk"-spamming fiasco and it seems like /pol/ is now void of them.

IMO fake pagans and real but not rigjtwing or even intellectually honest fedoras spamming "Christcuck" is more of an issue regarding D&C.


136d69 No.4887484

>>4887457

>There hasn't been a free market in the world since the 1800's

Gee I'd love to be a mud-harvesting serf. How nostalgic!


e12ed9 No.4887497

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>>4887313

By your logic National Socialist's logical conclusion is wordwide international socialism.

>libertardians

Shill word detected.

>>4887329

>Ah I understand better now but what is a B-corporation?

Only the anon who said it can explain better.

>It's more or less a system of fixing prices in accordance with the cost of work.

So it's like a kind of free market? Where prices try to reflect cost?

>>4887354

>You're exactly right OP, the biggest giveaway has been the premises they argue from in the first place, which come straight from a Marxist textbook.

>Be vigilant we under constant attack here, especially when our countries are on the verge of finally pushing back against Zog and we need to be very strong in unity to help push this along as best we can.

Absolutely. We need to be extra vigilant. Glad people are with me on this, and I'm not the only one noticing.

We must spread awareness

>>4887360

Free-market is not an ideology. It's an economic system, that can be corrupted.

And it only went that path when it stopped being free and started being socialized/politicised brought in to the left.

Free-market is just freedom to buy or sell. It can only be bad if subverted by leftist goverments.

Feminism only exists because it is pushed by leftist goverments and organizations, there is no free-market demand for it. That's why it only appeared when socialism and communism appeared.

>>4887421

>cannot hope to survive and thrive until we toss off our chains and fight.

Leftist rethoric detected.

>>4887457

This.

>>4887463

Those "lolbergs" were all shills not from /pol/.

They tried to divide us and you took the bait.

/pol/ack Libertarians are very anti-degenerate and anti-subversion.

>>4887484

Then you must be happy that capitalism brought the industrial revolution and its progress.


1c96b4 No.4887500

>>4887408

Yeah, I suppose manipulation is much worse than straight out censorship

>>4887421

STRENGTH THROUGH UNITY


540021 No.4887501

File: 1454939518386.png (118.96 KB, 392x366, 196:183, 1444590550745.png)

>>4887484

>technology doesn't progress

>whitewashing the entire problem and solution

>(2) one right after the other


136d69 No.4887513

>>4887501

>(2)

Out of the 20 replies of the thread.

>said the >(1)


e12ed9 No.4887516

>>4887501

Those are the kinds of arguments leftypol tends to use.

Irrational snark completly out of context and place.

Start analysing their tactics brother.


56d071 No.4887517

>>4887328

The first one has appeared. Filtered.

>>4887463

Yep they are very annoying. Of course there are Leftist Christians but can you imagine those cucks legitposting on /pol?


a18802 No.4887534

>>4887516

Exactly.


0bcdc9 No.4887545

File: 1454939975770.jpeg (90.03 KB, 840x356, 210:89, socialistsubversion.jpeg)

>>4887092

leftypol is shilling hard and /pol/ is falling for it.


136d69 No.4887546

>>4887497

>Those "lolbergs" were all shills not from /pol/.

Well no shit, sherlock. The issue was that many if not most domestic libertards fell for the bait and mob-psychology and later fucked off to /liberty/ among with the original /intl/ shills.

>Then you must be happy that capitalism brought the industrial revolution and its progress.

Early factories were worse than modern third world swetshops though.

>>4887501

>>technology doesn't progress

Legislation must also progress accordingly, otherwise enjoy being no better than a chink workinh 18 hours a day for a bowl of rice.

>>4887516

Suck my cock dude. Of course I will be snarky when confronted with simplistic remarks and technicalities that have been repeatedly debunked after years of community conversation. And by the way since you blame over using "leftypol tactics" I must point out the "resource burning" tactic that many lolbergs love to engage in.


e12ed9 No.4887580

File: 1454940276945.jpg (10.38 KB, 320x320, 1:1, smug.jpg)

>>4887546

>Early factories were worse than modern third world swetshops though.

But better then what was there before. That's why life expectancy for all people rose.

>>4887546

>Legislation must also progress accordingly,

And it does. Unless you live on a different planet.

>Of course I will be snarky when confronted with simplistic remarks and technicalities

Only you made simplistic remarks.

> that have been repeatedly debunked after years of community conversation

This is leftist rethoric. You fucking failure of a shill. Topkek:

>"debunked" after years of "community conversation".

That's just how a SJW/fedora-fag talks.

This /pol/, this, is what I meant

Thanks for revealing yourself m8.


136d69 No.4887592

>>4887517

>>4887534

>rulekuk!

>stoermweenie!

>back to stormfront!

>naziboo!

Seriously, get bent for the jewish dick you love, brit/pol/ cuckholds.

I don't doubt there are rational intellectually honest libertarians in /pol/ among the clusterfuck of good goyim and snarky shills but at this point trying to discern them is like splitting hair.

Try earning back your credibility in this board instead of calling the kettle black, faggots.


5d3008 No.4887598

>>4887189

>Francis Delaisi

Do you have a pdf?


2115ef No.4887603


e12ed9 No.4887606

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>>4887592

No one used the terms you mentioned on the green text.

Another SJW tactic:

They constantly strawman, and ignore all serious discussion.

Take heed /pol/, this thread is a major learning experience.


136d69 No.4887628

>>4887580

>This is leftist rethoric. You fucking failure of a shill. Topkek:

It's called "board consensus" because it's largely impractical and time consuming to dig through shitloads of links just to debunk a spammed claim and since I am almsot convinced you are a honest to God lolberg invisible-hand worshiper and not an intentionally disrupting /intl/ shill I feel obliged to point out the concept of "resource burning".


136d69 No.4887638

>>4887606

>keeps calling me a shill for defending the board's majority opinion

That's why people don't like you.


e12ed9 No.4887663

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>>4887628

>It's called "board consensus"

Appeal to consensus. Kek.

>debunk a spammed claim

What claim?

>lolberg invisible-hand worshiper

Non-sensical ad-hominem.

>>4887638

>keeps calling me a shill for defending the board's majority opinion

Another appeal to board consensus.

You do know this is one of the most mentioned shill tactics on the /pol/ anti-shill manual right?

But please, continue. Help me prove my point.


4bb7e6 No.4887666

>>4887360

>corporations are against traditional values

Actually this was not always the case; big business was once an ally of social conservatism. They would keep fags out of commercials and degeneracy on late at night. It was a smart move: keep social conservatives happy, they will vote to keep the democrats from eating you.

It's only really in the last decade that big business broke the covenant and went pure social justice. It was a dumb move and they will regret it, because social conservatives aren't carrying water for them anymore and their new allies still want to eat them.


0bcdc9 No.4887668

>>4887628

>>4887638

>Appeal to majority.

>Rewriting board demographics

lel, natsocs are not even close to being the majority. They only experienced more free reign, because all the brits moved to britpol and the germans moved to deutschpol. What is left is scum. Ever been to britpol or deutschpol? Very polite, very civilized. NatSocs are scum.


136d69 No.4887669

>>4887606

>No one used the terms you mentioned on the green text.

I seriously doubt ALL the posters that spam this shit were and are /intl/entional shills.

Personal suggestion:

Try to earn back your credibility by being less of the snarky douchebags you blame others to be, realize and admit your fucking mistakes instead of pinning all the blame to goons for playing you like a goddamn fiddle, morons.


0bcdc9 No.4887676

>>4887668

Not to mention that pol has been bleeding users even though this is the height of the campaign season. We should have three or four times as many users. But it's not happening, because people are moving back to 4chan and other boards.


a94d7e No.4887677

>>4887092

It tends to be retards who think Natsoc is just liberalsocialism with an added racial angle, when really its a whole different philosophy all together.

>>4887638

speak for yourself, faggot


136d69 No.4887683

>>4887668

>britshills starting to reveal their real colors

Thanks.


e12ed9 No.4887685

File: 1454941122574.jpg (61.36 KB, 960x394, 480:197, 1488.jpg)

>>4887668

No. Natsoc impersonators are scum. And he used shill tactics, therefore he is a fake.

Real Natsocs tend to be well read theorizers.

>>4887669

How does this post make sense?

Non-sensical snark at its best.

>>4887677

>It tends to be retards who think Natsoc is just liberalsocialism with an added racial angle, when really its a whole different philosophy all together.

The younger ones yes.


136d69 No.4887703

>>4887685

>Real Natsocs tend to be well read theorizers.

Real natsoc also usually tend to not spread their buttcheeks for those downright calling them "scum", you cuckhold.


56d071 No.4887719

>>4887606

Top kek, lesson learned.


e12ed9 No.4887730

>>4887703

>Real natsoc also usually tend to not spread their buttcheeks for those downright calling them "scum", you cuckhold.

Your point being?

Again, notice the non-sensical snark


136d69 No.4887747

>>4887730

>Your point being?

Reread the post you replied to:

>>4887668

> NatSocs are scum.

cuck.


e12ed9 No.4887767

File: 1454941847073.jpg (29.45 KB, 720x446, 360:223, communists.jpg)

>>4887747

I said no. And that only Natsoc impersonators are scum.

And you felt offended.

Therefore you are a Natsoc impersonator.

The shill, being paid by number of posts, went too fast, slipped, and showed it's true colors

Look at him, look at him and laugh.


326230 No.4887783

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>>4887767

>Look at him, look at him and laugh.

ohohohohohohoho

This thread is gold


5d3008 No.4887795

Well this thread turned to shit quickly.


e12ed9 No.4887803

>>4887795

It did want it was meant to do. Display the shills for everyone to see.


190966 No.4887806

> And say all free-market/economically right-wing anons are Ancaps (for some reason).

I'm an ancap. I get along just fine with minarchists and nationalists. Natsocs not so much, but I don't know to what extent it's legit dissent or enemy infiltration.


0bcdc9 No.4887813

>>4887767

They hate real debates. It's "cuck this, cuck that, jew this, jew that."

Are they "well-read theorizers"? I have never seen any.

>>4887795

>Well this thread turned to shit quickly.

As predicted. The shills don't want people to have rational, polite discussions.


e12ed9 No.4887821

>>4887813

>Are they "well-read theorizers"?

I have seen some. A few posted ITT.

Most of the idiots you mention are d&c shills.


136d69 No.4887833

>>4887767

>I said no.

Oops. My bad there.


136d69 No.4887848

>>4887813

>jew this jew that

Notice the discreet attempt for release of blame from the Jews.


136d69 No.4887860

>>4887813

>jew this jew that

Notice the discreet attempt for release of blame from the Jews.

And we don't hate debates. We hate trying to prove that Atlas Shrugged, the Jewconomist articles and mental gymnastics over your hypothetical free market utopia are not exactly empirical facts.


e12ed9 No.4887895

>>4887833

>Oops. My bad there.

Indeed.

>and mental gymnastics

Do you care on elaborating?


95c85c No.4887927

Is this being slid?


0bcdc9 No.4887932

>>4887860

>Economist

>Libertarian

It just goes to show that you have no idea what a libertarian is.

The economist is keynesian rag.

>Notice the discreet attempt for release of blame from the Jews.

This is an anonymous board and it makes no sense whatsoever to label people jews who have a different opinion than you.

Address the message, which is the only information you have. You know nothing about the messenger.


790d8e No.4887972

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>>4887092

Noticed that too. Many shills from leftypol trying to push Stalin as an alternative to Hitler. They are also pushing memes such as "The Great Purge was really an antisemitic pogrom" or "Societ Union upheld traditional values".


e12ed9 No.4888012

>>4887927

It seems so


e12ed9 No.4888047

>>4888012

Yep, 3rd page already


9c3a61 No.4888090

File: 1454944268910.jpg (107.41 KB, 780x488, 195:122, burn_it_down.jpg)

>>4887927

>>4888012

>>4888047

They are afraid.

They have been revealed.


190966 No.4888122

File: 1454944482061.jpg (146.89 KB, 606x427, 606:427, Dr-Hoppe-on-Immigratoin2.jpg)

>>4887313

> It's because ancap is just principled libertarianism.

Kind of true, to some extent.

> Not to mention 90% of libertarians support open borders, anti-racism, Jews owning everything, etc.

Maybe, but guess who does NOT support those positions (especially the first two). Pic related.


190966 No.4888173

File: 1454944840623.jpg (5.9 KB, 250x250, 1:1, 2edz092.jpg)

>>4888047

> not using the catalog


4307ab No.4888177

>>4887092

As soon as someone resorts to theory without any practical real world examples of how National Socialism would work in [current year], I assume they are a NatSoc Impersonator, otherwise known as

Time Wasting Bullshit Artists of the Internet

Seeing any substance in a NatSoc thread on /pol/ is so rare I'm being to suspect that most of the threads about it are just automated clever bots timed to spew out high sounding meaningless jargon.


01d717 No.4888266

>>4887407

I blame the influence of my fellow burgers for that where any use of the word socialism means communism for them


8462ef No.4888402

>>4888177

>>4887092

I've just been lazy and haven't read up on national socialist theory. One main reason being I don't want to read a biased piece on it, that doesn't correctly and accurately portray what actually happened in Germany.

If I found a good source, I'd read it.

For now however I've considered myself a technocratic traditionalist. A composite of nationalism, socialism, and technocracy that I've made up for myself.

Picture Amish with a strong emphasis on family and education in the advanced sciences, but also an emphasis on religion, traditionalism, and sustainability. While advancing science would be the culture of my "Utopian" society, the utilization of the sciences would be minimalist in nature. A strong emphasis for military training of all citizens.

I suppose the best real world example would be Switzerland or pre-WWII Japan with even more rigorous citizenship laws, NO foreigner can become a true citizen, that way if they ever break the law they can be evicted from the nation.

It could be summarized as, families own farms, tend to animals and crops, but also have robots in the storage and personal armories for when the muds invade. Each family unit functions as the representing unit of that piece of land, and has sovereign control over their land until it is sold. Land lost to negligence is seized by the nation and redistributed to growing families.

I suppose a lot of my inspiration for this ideology comes from the Volkisch communities.


9050ec No.4888491

>>4887443

The Soviets said the same about Islam.


e12ed9 No.4888495

>>4888173

I do. But in the catalog it also shows which page the thread is in. Indicating a slide.


9050ec No.4888521

>>4887313

What do you call someone who favours just enough regulation to prevent kikery and entryism?


cb339a No.4888548

>>4887457

To the extent that markets are free, my point stands. They are inherently degenerate and opposed to traditional values.


9050ec No.4888573

>>4887391

>(((neo-Cohenservatism)))


cf69f2 No.4888578

And we also have fedora impersonators, pagan impersonators and wathever impersonators, at the end they are just a bunch of angsty american teens and yurocucks.


01d717 No.4888607

>>4888521

filthy statist :^)

>>4887457

Free Markets don't really exist to begin with if you're trying to go by the economic definition, Markets trend towards oligopoly or monopoly status when left alone.


9050ec No.4888621

>>4887669

>muh goons

>acts like a goon


e9671e No.4888633

File: 1454948124618.png (253.84 KB, 407x479, 407:479, 1429384830653.png)

>>4887092

>Their tactics remind me of the NATO anti-Russia shills, who spam: Jewtin, RIDF

Jewtin is literally trying to turn Russia into a second Israel and its shilling to point it out


9050ec No.4888653

>>4887806

I would be much happier if all the kikes went away but my religion prevents me from helping you prepare them for roasting. That Madagascar plan I could get behind.


e12ed9 No.4888741

File: 1454948878929.jpg (104.14 KB, 960x891, 320:297, free_market.jpg)

>>4888521

Minarchist

>>4888633

>Jewtin is literally trying to turn Russia into a second Israel and its shilling to point it out

>smug anime

Are you even trying anymore?

>>4888653

The roasting is a myth, the Nazis planned to expel them.


e9671e No.4888755


9050ec No.4888932

>>4888177

Okay, here is where I stand.

I went to jewniversity 20 years ago, and everything I learned about Hitler (I have always been a Nazi buff; I am part German and related to Pope Benedict) was kosher. Growing up I watch the all-jew Nazi cast of Hogan's Heroes with BDSM and pioneer cammer Bob Crane. Hiroshima 'was necessary and saved countless Allied lives' according to Dad.

Now here is my biggest problem: muh degeneracy, a word that gets throw around here too much. Adultery is legal (in civilian life) and the shills get worked up over muh weed? That reeks of D&C. (Protip: diet preferences are sacrosanct and anyone against legal pot is a shill or a rentseeker kike like a cop or 'treatment' type. That is not the same as promotion though. Don't take 5 Xanax and drive either. Think of it like faggotry. Milo vs. Daddy Howard Hiatt. And this comes from a sober alcoholic.)

Hitler was a nonsmoking zealot which turns me off right there, and everyone gives him a pass on the meth use. But as I learned more about the dotchcloss, Smedley Butler, kikes financing both sides of a war… well, we need to have a serious talk about Tikkun Olam. Having spent my previous career around Jews I feel like Streicher with the knowledge I have of them. A crisis would be the best way to solve the problem with the least bloodshed, then install firm anti-entryist measures.

The other way is a more aggressive approach, like Project Coast or Zika/Djenge/Ebola/etc. If you think selective bioweapons are not already on the shelf, you're kidding yourself. (See you in The Hague I guess).


e12ed9 No.4889049

>>4888755

And here it is. Topkek.


a89928 No.4889053

>>4888932

>tfw we can't make lolbertarian marriage contracts of our choosing in which the government is required to enforce torture against a spouse if part of the contract includes a clause designating such as the consequences of cheating

Why live?


e12ed9 No.4889095

>>4889053

>make lolbertarian marriage contracts of our choosing in which the government is required to enforce torture against a spouse if part of the contract includes a clause designating such as the consequences of cheating

What is this autism?


a89928 No.4889135

>>4889095

Simple. The act of a couple making yandere promises towards each other in their own custom marriage contract. In the end, isn't that the purest love of all?


e12ed9 No.4889160

>>4889135

What's that got to do with anything?


4307ab No.4889168

>>4888402

>If I found a good source, I'd read it.

The easiest route is just learning what Hitler did in Germany to address the conditions he faced at that time.

Mein Kampf gives his own account of how he went from a pretty straight up democrat to the red pilled person the World has come to hate.

You can find the full audio version of Mein Kampf on youtube.

>It could be summarized as, families own farms, tend to animals and crops, but also have robots in the storage and personal armories for when the muds invade. Each family unit functions as the representing unit of that piece of land, and has sovereign control over their land until it is sold. Land lost to negligence is seized by the nation and redistributed to growing families.

>I suppose a lot of my inspiration for this ideology comes from the Volkisch communities.

It needs to be translated into an actual movement for today. A Nationalist party for the United States.

>A crisis would be the best way to solve the problem with the least bloodshed, then install firm anti-entryist measures.

We've been in an ongoing crisis. What we need isn't a comet to reset everything, we just need to hit the points that people can relate to and give them workable solutions they can get behind.

Trump is the perfect example of how a populist movement is way ripe to happen in this Country.

You have to set specific goals and aim for those goals instead of just pushing out rhetoric and/or "revolution".

The rhetoric is the never ending debates on what constitutes National Socialism. The "revolution" is pissed off people waving their guns without actually accomplishing anything.


a89928 No.4889268

>>4889160

It has to do with making marriage great again, anon.


e12ed9 No.4889278

>>4889268

Sure. I guess.


a89928 No.4889323

>>4889278

No, you're sure period.


e12ed9 No.4889375

>>4889323

Okay mang


4307ab No.4889611

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>4888402

>>4888932

I think one think that needs to be make clear is the threat that the Corporate world represents to Nationalism.

The source of Nationalism comes from the Family. That is its strength. And so what works greater at bleeding off the life of the Family than the Corporate entities.

So a true National Socialism would be in direct conflict with Corporate America, which seeks profit for the sake of profit, and not for the benefit of the Nation, which is its families.

Also, if National Socialism only works with White Superiority, then that needs to be clearly defined and not buried in the rhetoric.

I don't personally have any use for it, because what worked in Germany wasn't a belief that all White people were superior, but only German White people. Being White didn't automatically get you a participation trophy in Hitler's Germany.


3af21f No.4889743

>>4887606

>uses an appeal to percieved authority/majority as grounds for his argument

>accuses another of being a shill

>posts greek communist economist as a reaction picture

nigger you better be fucking trolling, because there will be no fucking mercy for the likes of you when the rope comes.


e12ed9 No.4889835

>>4889743

>uses an appeal to percieved authority/majority as grounds for his argument

I did no such thing. Only the shill used appeal to consensus.

Try harder.


190966 No.4890079

>>4888653

> Madagascar

There was something much better going on that right before the war. The fact that I had to learn it here was for me a major red pill on how liberal media and education manipulate truth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement


e12ed9 No.4890231

>>4890079

>The agreement was designed to help facilitate the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. While it helped Jews emigrate, it forced them to temporarily give up possessions to Germany before departing. Those possessions could later be re-obtained by transferring them to Palestine as German export goods.

The Germans were actually pretty reasonable. The surreal leftist/jewish propaganda is disgusting.


3b9fd5 No.4890347

File: 1454957618094-0.jpg (51.19 KB, 850x400, 17:8, quote-the-very-concept-of-….jpg)

File: 1454957618095-1.png (341.63 KB, 1365x745, 273:149, 65xOe93.png)

I think that if there is one thing that unifies /pol/ is the belief in, and pursuit of, objective truth.

Even going back to the days of /new/ and the whole point of discussing politics and news in a politically incorrect manner is to cut through all the bullshit and manipulation that all kinds of people are flooding us with.

Incidentally, Cultural Marxism which is political correctness itself, denies objective truth.

In Zoroastrism, the original monotheistic religiion, you have an eternal conflict between Asha (truth and order) vs Druj (falsehood and disorder).

"There is only one path and that is the path of Truth." is also one of its three basic principles.

I think that Christianity also carries this message, as a lot of the stories in the New Testament encourage people to look at things objectively, have critical thinking and cut through the lies, and also focus on the substance over the superficial (as Jesus challenged and rejected the pharisees useless doctrines multiple times).

If the collective I think that if there is one thing that unifies /pol/ is the belief in, and pursuit of, objective truth.

Even going back to the days of /new/ and the whole point of discussing politics and news in a politically incorrect manner is to cut through all the bullshit and manipulation that all kinds of people are flooding us with.

Incidentally, Cultural Marxism which is political correctness itself, denies objective truth.

In Zoroastrism, the original monotheistic religiion, you have an eternal conflict between Asha (truth and order) vs Druj (falsehood and disorder).

"There is only one path and that is the path of Truth." is also one of its three basic principles.

I think that Christianity also carries this message, as a lot of the stories in the New Testament encourage people to look at things objectively, have critical thinking and cut through the lies, and also focus on the substance over the superficial (as Jesus challenged and rejected the pharisees useless doctrines multiple times).


3b9fd5 No.4890378

>>4890347

shit, I fucked up that post.

This is what happens when you write it first in Notepad so that you don't lose it in case of a posting error


e12ed9 No.4890511

>>4890347

Good double post. Still good.

>>4890378

Well, it happens.


5f76b9 No.4890578

>>4887171

>Nationalist libertarian


5f76b9 No.4890604

>>4887457

>the free market just hasn't been tried

You sound like a socialist


e12ed9 No.4890647

>>4890578

Prove me wrong faggot.


5f76b9 No.4890682

>>4890647

Just call yourself a paleoconservative and ditch the libertarian label


bffc0b No.4890792

>>4887092

I've noticed this too. Natsocs are alright. Leftypol is just gay


e12ed9 No.4890862

>>4890682

Paleoconservative isn't as accurate tho.


a5ccf6 No.4890882

>>4890604

Sorry, forgot Somalia.


e12ed9 No.4891039

>>4890882

>forgets he changed proxy


190966 No.4891281

>>4890231

The saddest part is that if only the war had started a bit later, the transfer would have been completed and the ZIonist lobby would have supported Hitler. When the war started, the way to Britain-controlled Palestine was closed.


e12ed9 No.4891381

>>4891281

>The saddest part is that if only the war had started a bit later

Why did you think it didn't?


190966 No.4891872

>>4891381

Hitler was in a hurry for a variety of reasons. Are you implying the Jews made him do it?


b7b5fc No.4891979

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e12ed9 No.4891980

File: 1454965240639.jpg (14.44 KB, 300x200, 3:2, jewsdeclarewar.jpg)

>>4891872

>Are you implying the Jews made him do it?

The Zionist did declare war at Germany in 1933 after all.


6d76c6 No.4891988

>libertarian meme

Reminder nobody is actually a libertarian on /pol/ because it's a jewish created controlled opposition "ideology" that leads to the destruction of white societies


b7b5fc No.4891989

File: 1454965308601.jpg (80.35 KB, 814x564, 407:282, JudeaDeclaresWar_AngryJew.jpg)


e12ed9 No.4892065

>>4891988

>there's never been a libertarian nation

>libertarianism leads to the destruction of white societies

You guys should pick one, and just one.


0bcdc9 No.4892067

>>4891979

That's actually quite normal for 4chan. What were you doing there anyway?


463436 No.4892268

From a /pol/ak standard

Libertarianism: Jews infiltrate everything, or jew like individuals, you should compartmentalize their power and reduce their influence on the peoples. A government is necessary to deal with other governments.

Morally, I agree the most with an ancap scenario but I understand that just because my region makes the moral choice that not every other region will, these countries will then conquer mine thus leading to the destruction of my moral system. So it must be that you need both to practice your principles but also defend them and ensure their perpetuity.

My major gripe with the natsocs on this board (or anywhere I guess) is the socialism part. Natsocs often don't understand that Hitler didn't care about economics and was not very well versed in it. He put together a system that would fight the enemies of Germany and nothing more (He did not plan his economy he told his cabinet to just do what was most efficient to get ready for war). There was no peacetime plan for Hitler. What socialists don't understand is that socialism works really good if you go for a generation and not long after. As a Canadian I don't think it would be exaggeration to say I live in a fully socialist country. regardless of the nationalist part is that it isn't mathematically feasible and it is fully visible to me that it doesn't work.


cbb331 No.4892295

>>4892067

We work there.


cef6b1 No.4892299

>>4887092

The D&C shills have been hitting >>4838022 pretty hard


190966 No.4892420

>>4891980

Yes, some Jewish groups "declared war" on Germany, but that's a usual metaphor when activists call for a boycott. Real war is declared by nations, not activist groups. Germany had much more pressing concerns, like the advance of the Soviet Union and the plight of Germans in Poland.

Also, the boycott was largely an American thing, many Jews opposed it, including Zionists. Here, have a ration of #notalljews:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933

"Events in Germany[edit]

[..] The Central Jewish Association of Germany, however, contested the claim that the new government was deliberately provoking anti-Jewish uprisings. It issued a statement of support for the regime and held that "the responsible government authorities [i.e. the Hitler regime] are unaware of the threatening situation," saying, "we do not believe our German fellow citizens will let themselves be carried away into committing excesses against the Jews." Nevertheless, some sporadic vandalising of Jewish businesses and property across Germany occurred, perpetrated by individual Nazis and Germans[citation needed]. Other prominent Jewish businessmen wrote letters in support of the Nazi regime calling on officials in the Jewish community in Palestine, as well as Jewish organizations abroad, to drop their efforts to organize an economic boycott.[1]

In March 1933, the international critics, usually Jewish organizations, transformed their verbal protests into a worldwide, organized economic boycott against German goods. The Nazis in turn responded back with a boycott of their own, against all Jewish stores in Germany. [2]"


6d76c6 No.4892478

>>4892065

>le communism has never been tried meme

I'm shocked a commie kike puppet and a kike commie tend to use the same arguements :^)


e12ed9 No.4892957

>>4892478

>commie

>right-wing libertarian

You can only pick one.


d5d74b No.4892974

>>4892478

So there has been a libertarian nation? You're so enlightened, you must have a shit load of self esteem, except, you know… the physical kind. But wow, what a mind.


5e1396 No.4892991

File: 1454969874790.jpg (38.08 KB, 500x328, 125:82, image.jpg)

>>4892420

>trusting Wikipedia for any point of information about the holocaust


d5d74b No.4893073

File: 1454970272447.webm (1.91 MB, 420x364, 15:13, totinos_be_go.webm)

"Let's divide the anti-establishment movement by trying to convince a bunch of them to become abhorrently stupid Hitler worshipers. I bet all it will take is a room full of cyber warriors and a couple cheap youtube documentaries, plus all the concocted anti-Jew literature we've developed for the past 1000 years in our synagogues."

"ok boss"

"ok"

/pol/'s mouth breathers: "ok"


fd3704 No.4893159

>>4887092

It's likely the easiest way to shill on this board, to pretend to be part of the majority. It's how jews got so far: they shaved their beards, spoke the tongues of the majority and so on until they got into a position to corrode society.


e44925 No.4893232

>>4887092

There's been a lot of these on /k/ lately too.


eec7a2 No.4893357

Honestly? Most Natsocs seem to be Hitler fanboys or LARPers. They don't actually know much about the ideology they claim to follow except that the Jews are the enemy.


e12ed9 No.4893483

>>4893159

Yes, but like now they always reveal themselves.

Their rethoric can be spoted a mile away.

Even Nietzche said: Jews get squeamish when they moralize.

>>4893232

I've heard, and seen, that too.

>>4893357

That's because those fakes, or cartoonish LARPers, are JIDF trying to pass as Natsoc.


190966 No.4893496

>>4892991

> implying your personal blog is a more reliable source

> implying a witty greentext is a rebuttal


e12ed9 No.4893841

oh and bump for sliding


220609 No.4894534

>>4893496

>implying muh outliers is a valid argument

>ever


190966 No.4894599

>>4894534

> implying it was about outliers


e12ed9 No.4895392

>>4894534

>forgets he changed proxy again


b242aa No.4895587

bump


e12ed9 No.4895641

THEY ARE NOW ATTEMPTING TO PUT /pol/ VS /k/ en mass

NEW SHILL WAVE


71507d No.4895752

>>4895641

/k/ is /pol/ with guns.

This is divide and conquer.


e12ed9 No.4895931

Shit, this is being slid to ground


8462ef No.4895940

>>4895641

>>4895752

The only mention of /k/ is you guys. This is some kind of fallacy or something.


e12ed9 No.4895976

>>4895940

Its happening in other threads.

And /k/ has been repeling /leftypol/ incursions lately too.


42282f No.4896202

We are being spammed though.


b924a3 No.4896478

>>4887092

Yeah, there's a lot of d&c going on.


e12ed9 No.4897115

Last bump for the night


dc18ef No.4897737

>>4887092

IMO it is possible that we have some idiots or trolls in our ranks that just shitfling because they are bored.

It might not be 100% shilling.


40901b No.4897803

They still bother to shill against Trump and shit. Hilarious.


40901b No.4897808

Also, this should be stickied.


29802c No.4897887

File: 1454989403108.jpg (226.21 KB, 1000x794, 500:397, shill_krieg.jpg)

>>4887092

There's too much movement and creation of threads… Too many newfags…

Too many people with foreign opinions and rethoric…

Another shill-wave is here…


b6ac25 No.4897930

File: 1454989609065.png (106.14 KB, 337x225, 337:225, tfw.png)

>>4897887

No… Not that…

Not again…


ad2b1b No.4897970

>>4887092

>Natsoc impersonators

AKA those who don the identity-politics D&C compliant label of "alt right".

Controlled opposition as seen in: The Daily Shoah. Who denies 9/11 truth even though it's obviously a false flag and zionists are involved…

Beware of those who seem to espouse your views, but are actually a caricature of NatSoc.


e2f544 No.4898005

File: 1454990069332.jpg (43.81 KB, 426x282, 71:47, Sandy hook minefield.jpg)

>>4887092

Wasnt Hitler a "Nationalist Socialist"? Why do some call him a facist and others a natsoc?

Can someone explain to me what a nationalist socialist is and how it differs from a Socialist?


f72092 No.4898036

>>4897970

>D&C compliant label of "alt right".

How is the "alt right" d&c conquer?

Quite the contrary, it unites us.

>The Daily Shoah

Why is it controlled opposition?

>Who denies 9/11 truth even though it's obviously a false flag and zionists are involved

They deny? I doubt it.

You seem to be reading of a manual:

>identity-politics D&C compliant label of "alt right".

>Controlled opposition as seen in:

>9/11 truth

>false flag and zionists

>Beware of those who seem to espouse your views, but are actually a caricature of NatSoc.

I am not Natsoc, neither is OP, but you seem to want to make us hate other alt-righters like the daily shoah.

This is precious


f72092 No.4898056

>>4898005

All these newfags, it's like >>4897887 said.

>Why do some call him a facist and others a natsoc?

He was Natsoc. Some call him facist, but they are being inacurate.

>Can someone explain to me what a nationalist socialist is and how it differs from a Socialist?

You should google it tbh.


190966 No.4898125

>>4898005

> Can someone explain to me what a nationalist socialist is and how it differs from a Socialist?

Commie socialist: let's abolish the free market.

National socialist: let's allow the free market to work but let the state step in whenever it does something we deem harmful for the nation.

BTW, I'm an ancap, so I think both are dumb and not so different in practice, but I'm doing my best to describe Natsoc with fairness.


b796bf No.4898208

I've sort of considered myself a Natsoc, but I'm not really sure whether my views really fit any ideology too well.

I believe we need a government that maintains our white ethnic identity as well as promoting the anglo-saxon cultural values of personal responsibility, accountability, and autonomy, while at the same time ensuring that the promotion of subversive cultural elements such as feminism, communism, neo-marxism, liberalism, internationalism, etc. are heavily limited if not outright banned. I believe that the state should take a largely hands-off approach to the internal economy except for enacting laws that protect worker's conditions and ensure they receive fair and healthy hours. I'm also of the belief that to maintain healthy economic competition, the government should be able to break up large corporations if they appear to be monopolizing the market. I believe the government should have full control over the money supply as to not allow the population to become enslaved by the private central banking cartels that run American today. If the currency was not backed by the endless accumulation of debt, the government would not have to squeeze wealth out of hard working citizens through unfair taxes in order to try and pay off the interest. I believe that the government should run a public school system that strongly promotes the traditional cultural values of our nation, fosters a strong sense of national/racial pride, as well as teach young people to value and cherish their strength as a nation. I do believe there should be a small and carefully regulated social safety net for those who find themselves unemployed, but not large enough and free enough as to create an underclass of dependents. I'm also quite in favour of protectionist policies in order to ensure that jobs and manufacturing stay in the country instead of being shipped off to third world countries with laxer laws. If you can keep government interference in the economy small but potent, and maintain policies where jobs are not outsourced and healthy working conditions are protected, you can ensure that new innovation will occur rapidly and wealth will be generated.

I'd say my positions are a mix between paleoconservatism, national socialism and fascism


b796bf No.4898211

>>4898125

>BTW, I'm an ancap, so I think both are dumb

Oh the irony


190966 No.4898242

>>4898211

There's no irony. Everyone thinks their political ideology of choice is the best, otherwise they change ideologies.


190966 No.4898286

>>4898208

>I'd say my positions are a mix between paleoconservatism, national socialism and fascism

Any of the three labels will do. They are basically the same.


eec7a2 No.4898357

>>4897887

>foreign opinions and rethoric

Muh hugbox!

/pol/ is supposed to encourage debate so that the strongest, best ideas might thrive, you tremendous blubbering faggot. Go back to Stormfront if you want everyone to tow your nonexistent party's line.


b796bf No.4898453

>>4898357

>muh stormfront meme

it amazes me how you idiots even think people will listen to you when you spout the same dry labels like some zombie. Fuck off

>inb4 "but muh shill accoosationz"

those are cancer too. Next.


34c87c No.4898898

File: 1454995493903.gif (1.19 MB, 234x200, 117:100, laughing chosen.gif)

>>4898357

>Back to reddit it goes

Literally over 50% of /pol/ frequenters are National Socialists. Clearly, our ideology is the strongest with the best ideas, and has won and triumphed over the other ideals.

>Stormfront

>not an FBI honeypot where most posters are government agents

He thinks a single real nationalist ever goes to Stormfront


190966 No.4901521

>>4898898

Natsocs are overrepresented on /pol/ simply because they are banned everywhere else, not because their ideas have more merit.


190966 No.4901562

>>4901521

Also, truth is not a democracy. Otherwise, we are all wrong and the bluepilled goyim are right.


e12ed9 No.4902016

>>4898286

>They are basically the same.

No.

>>4898357

>Muh hugbox!

>Go back to Stormfront

When the anon did not mention his ideology at all.

Shilling… Shilling never changes.


4307ab No.4902176

>>4901521

>Natsocs are overrepresented on /pol/ simply because they are banned everywhere else, not because their ideas have more merit.

They are over represented because anyone can be a [insert generic label here]. Most of it is just "White power" using the NatSoc label to sound more intelligent.

As soon as you start pressing for details the dialogue collapses. And sadly, its not even intelligent racism, its just reactionary.

>"Someday somethings going to do something and then some stuff will happen and stuff…and then we will have a White Nation!"

Rinse and repeat. Every other thread on /pol/.


e9671e No.4903040

>>4889049

>article demonstrating how Putin is acting like the goodest of goyim

>anons still defended him and perceive any criticism shilling

Topkeke indeed


190966 No.4903139

>>4902016

> No.

Can you summarise their difference in one post? If you need a whole book to explain their differences, then they are almost the same.


e12ed9 No.4903191

>>4903139

Paleoconservatives don't believe in socialism, and are individualist.

Fascists don't tend to implement socialist measures but are more collectivist.

Natsocs are socialist but don't ban the free-market, supposedly using it to benefit the nation instead.


190966 No.4903256

>>4888755

The comments section shows the self-serving Jews in their element.


c18590 No.4903283

>>4887092

>muh /leftypol/ and /intl/ boogeymen

>being this retardedly paranoid

having fun with that tinfoil hat?


e12ed9 No.4903354

>>4903283

>tinfoil hat?

They out themselves so easily.


8bf258 No.4903377

Free markets means globalization means white jobs moved to brown countries.

/thread


e12ed9 No.4903385

>>4903377

>thread about shilling

>comes here to derrail

Nice try faggot


678257 No.4903527

>>4903354

>>4903385

>(45)

get a life cuck


190966 No.4903545

>>4903191

Fascists and Natsocs are virtually identical.

Fair enough, paleocons are less interventionist, but calling them "individualist" is a bit of a stretch, given their emphatic support of traditional values by all means available, including the state. Besides, American "conservatives" (not including neocons) have been consistently moving towards a form of nationalist socialism for quite a few years. For instance, see:

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/1996/March/20/3/magazine/article/10829978/


e12ed9 No.4903683

>>4903527

Nice argument.

>>4903545

That's why Nationalist Libertarianism exists.


e60a5b No.4903709

>>4887092

Wow I thought this was stickied because it was the second thing in the catalog but only then noticed there was nothing stickied at all. Thats a first in a long time

also

>pass

confirmed retard, opinion discarded

sage because I dont actually have anything to contribute


27f6c4 No.4906080

>>4901521

Our ideas literally do have the most merit though, since they are the correct and most truthful ideas. National Socialism is about living by the law of nature, how nature intended us to live.

If you deviate from that path, society crumbles.


27f6c4 No.4906105

>>4901521

>>4902176

Reminder that after finding out about Dan Gabriel and Applied Memetics, /pol/ has been under a constant, merciless attack of shills non stop.

Just hide shills like this. Anyone who is against National Socialism shows their true nature: they either serve The Jew or they just simply hate whites.


27f6c4 No.4906135

>>4903683

Nationalist Libertarianism is weak though, since it was how USA used to be, and it was what allowed Jews to overtake America.

There can be no freedom as long as Jews exist in your country.


e12ed9 No.4906257

>>4906135

And National Socialism lead Germany to be defeated.


dc872d No.4906279

NatSocs and commies are basically roleplaying. Their ideals will never come to realization.

Nationalism could be real but national socialism probably won't ever happen.

And so because of that, since they can't use facts, they just use feels.


e12ed9 No.4906380

>>4906279

It happened once. It's expansionism wasn't very succesful tho.


8fe06b No.4910573

Lets hope it's just newfags running away from 4chan.


0bef56 No.4910750

File: 1455065444788.jpg (96.43 KB, 1600x902, 800:451, op.jpg)

>>4887092

Anyone who doesn't think like me is an evil inflictor spreading dissent.

I have the only correct ideas and everyone should think like me.

Open discussion and debate is not the way to refine and develop ideas.

Stop liking things I don't like!


000000 No.4917302

>>4887092

No, OP. You are the shill.

Your entire post is basically "everyone who agrees with me is a real natsoc, everyone who overtly disagrees with me is /leftypol/.

No. The people who agree with you are people who have no idea what National Socialism is actually about while the ones who abhor you do, because what you want is the exact opposite of what National Socialism attempts to establish.

Libertarianism is an ideology of selfishness while National Socialism is one of duty, obligation and sacrifice, which is why people tell you fuck off just as we tell people who suggest that kikes and Aryans are in a mutually beneficial symbiosis to fuck off.

TL;DR: This is an imageboard, grow some skin or get out.


733a9b No.4917358

>>4887329

>It's more or less a system of fixing prices in accordance with the cost of work.

That sounds like the labor theory of value, which is Marxist crap.


e12ed9 No.4918257

>>4910750

>First proxy, strawman

>>4917302

>Second proxy, strawman, implies I'm Natsoc or that libertarians are a type of Natsoc


57e2f7 No.4918282

>>4887092

>lolbergs complain that "shills" are "DnC"ing by turning Natsoc vs those poor Libertarians

>half the post are a circlejerk bashing Natsocs about how they are "LARPers" and "indistinguishable from commies"

Never had a doubt that lolbergs are narcissists but the irony and lack of self-awareness here is tangible.




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