/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

If women can't help it if they get filled with sperm then it sounds like they can't control their own bodies.

No abortion and no contraceptives meant sex had consequences. This meant men and women both had to be more responsible with their bodies. It also contributed to the idea that if you wanted sex, you marry. If you wanted children, you marry.

Today, sex is risk free or near enough to it so people can recklessly sleep around and never worry about the consequences, because there are none.

>>4890258

The fact that the Holocaust count in that image is largely inflated to the traditional muh 6 million tells me that the Abortion count is as well.

>>4890258

>She is literally implying that semen is so unavoidable and plentiful that a woman trying to avoid sperm getting into her fallopian tubes is as much of a lost cause as trying to seal a house off from pollen.

From the perspective of a sheboon without self-control or future time sense that is reality. You can't teach a sheboon to not chimpout, how do you expect to train one to abstain from sex? You may as well waste your time trying to teach a dog calculus.

The more legal remedies for black lives the better. Personally I like the idea of selling nigger tags through the state conservation programs and using the proceeds to fund sterilization of niggers. But I guess allowing niggers to abort niglets is marginally more humane.

53 million abortions in America in 40 years?

I doubt it

>>4890688

I'm not sure what the thing you're trying to prevent is - sex or low-birth rates.

The late Roman Republic had similar problems with low birth rates and they didn't have access to contraception. People just didn't have a lot of hope for the future because they had no purpose in life because they had been kicked off their land by wealthy landlords who brought in slaves. Without hope for the future, having children is simply too much trouble. If you want to increase white birth rates you need to remove all of these migrants and left-wing ideologies so that white people know that if they decide to get married and have children those children can grow up, go to good safe schools, and obtain decent paying jobs. As it is now white people that have kids can expect their kids to go to schools flooded with niglets, beaners, kebabs, and pinko teachers and will likely end up either struggling through low-paying jobs working 70 hours a week through their 20s or being unemployed.

http://therightstuff.biz/2016/02/07/trumpus-gracchus/

>>4890258

Male condoms are 98% safe

Female condoms are 95% safe

Diaphragm is 95% safe

Birth control pill is 99.9% safe (though with a heightened risk of a blood clot, like many other products)

Femcap is 92-95% safe

UID is 99% safe

Contraceptive implant 99.9% safe

Contraceptive injection 99% safe

Contraceptive sponge 9/100 women get pregnant every year

Vaginal ring is 91-99.7% safe

Emergency contraception is 95% safe, but the effectiveness decreases as time passes and should be taken immediately

Sterilization of both men and women are >99% safe

There really isn't any contraceptive that is 100% safe. Abstinence is the only way I suppose.

I'm pro-choice, but only before the 10th week, and even then I don't feel as though it's completely okay. Ideally it should be done before the 8th week, while it's still an embryo, but it can be difficult for women to make a doctor's appointment in time.

After the 10th week it should only be permitted for rape victims, mentally ill women, girls/children under the age of 15, if the mother is in physical danger because of the pregnancy or if the pregnancy is worsening her condition, or if the fetus is severely ill; suffering from e.g. type II osteogenesis imperfecta.

>>4891016

Also to add: Or if the woman is shitskin, then abortion until 24 weeks is permissible.

>>4891016

You can use a couple of those at once, which I would assume increases the protection multiplicatively.

With those percentages you would have to be massively whoring it up to get pregnant with someone you weren't in a long term relationship with. If you are in a long term relationship, why not have the child?

This video is a great watch if you think abortion should be allowed up until a certain point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tNfYvgVLS8

The pro-abortion guy's clusterfuck of an argument lends far more credence to the anti-abortion standpoint than any picture of a dead baby does.

It's interesting as a scientist he claims science can't decide when life begins, but that's because science has already proven that it begins at conception, but for his viewpoint to be correct he cannot accept that.

>>4890849

It's true. Abortion tops the number of people who die a year I believe as well

>>4891181

I don't disagree with your statement. While you claim someone needs to be whoring it up massively, it could still fail on the first try, no matter how unlikely that is.

Of course life begins at conception, but that's not the issue I think matters. It's not when the fetus begins to feel pain, it's not when it begins to look like a baby, etc. it's, just like the age of consent, drawing a specific line on a subjective and complicated matter. I understand those who disapprove of abortion as well as I understand those who approve.

Sperm is alive, an ovum is alive, a zygote is alive, it's all life, however it's up to us to draw a line. When is that life valuable? Whenever menstruation occur and ovum is released, or whenever a man orgasms sperm is released? They both contain human DNA, they are both living and they are both naturally "killed" when the woman or man don't reproduce. Is a zygote a human being or is it a combination of two human beings DNA? The zygote can perish through natural causes as well.

I don't think there's a right answer to this.

And when is it ethically acceptable to choose its (the ovum, the sperm, the zygote, the embryo, the fetus, the baby)'s fate?

and in my own subjective opinion it's at 10 weeks - the latest, (which means it's the 8th week - meaning 8 weeks from conception - where the embryo becomes fetus) from the exceptions I mentioned.

>>4890258

>Holocaust

>17 million

( ° ʖ °)

>>4891181

The man (the Christian) in the video makes some interesting points, though I disagree with his statement that a fetus is a baby. A fetus, in my opinion, is not a baby, a baby is no longer a fetus when it has been developed enough to survive outside of the womb.

With current medical advancements it appears that babies are (barely) viable - with help - after the 24th week. Before the 23-24th week, I'd call it a fetus.

Also he uses the holocaust to compare it with abortion, kek. Muh dead jews. It's a shit argument you use when you're caught up in emotions.

>17 mill

oy vey

>>4890258

>cuckservatism the image

Abortion only matters when its whites. NOT every sperm is sacred. NOT nigger sperm.

>>4891666

satan trips of kikery

>>4891524

> These arguments

are you even trying, you must be a woman.

>>4891524

>>4891664

Human life begins at conception, and sperm are always going to die, though you could possibly argue masturbation is a waste.

The way I see it, if you are going to justify killing the baby up the point where it viable or useful, there is no reason not to justify killing the child even several months after it was born, it would have no knowledge or self awareness and wouldnt be able to look after itself, except that would make crystal clear that you are murdering your child.

That you note in your own post that babies are becoming viable earlier and earlier due to science, shows how arbitrary the "once it can survive outside of the womb" argument is.

With regards to the holocaust mention in the video, I think you missed his point, he could have used any slur. By referring to a human as non-human, it becomes true in your mind, you do it yourself with your arbitrary definition of what is a "fetus" and what is a "baby", when really they are both just humans at different levels of devolopment. To really justify killing the fetus, you must justify killing an undeveloped human, or else you are just tricking yourself with semantics.

why'd u have to title it "Bukkake?" you triggered my porn addiction, desu

>>4892370

It got all the anons in, just look how half the posts have nothing to do with the thread topic.

>>4890258

If you want to live life with slave morality, then go ahead and do so.

>>4890258

>holocaust

>>4891524

life is a process that has no beginning and no end. we humans are just specific manifestations or aspects of the general life principle.

>>4893180

sort of the idea. sarcasm isn't a sufficient criticism though. made me chuckle anyway.

sage

>meme wizards still dont understand that legalized abortion is a grand monument to moloch

And people wonder why the kikes are so powerful

>>4890258

>holocaust

>17 mln

oy vey remember the 60 billion

>>4890258

>600 trillion jews kill by dem ebil nazis

The answer is simple, change feminists for muslimas. Problem solved.

>REMEMBER THE SEVENTEEN GORRILLION, GOY

>>4891016

>should only be permitted for rape victims

That would lead to more rape accusations. Maybe if it involved a conviction of rape. If this worries women, then they should find good men to protect them.

>mentally ill women

which ones?

I would also say genetically tested cases of incest should be allowed.

>>4891016

>10 weeks

I'm sure the baby doesn't give a shit whether you kill it in the first week or at 36 weeks.

>>4890258

>The attached image is attached purely for humour, 17million?

They probably included all victims of organized killing by Germans, not only Jews. The number would be about right.

>>4900995

>Tripfagging

Why was that even necessary.

>>4890258

literally 35 million less niggers, I could care less its worth it.

>>4916312

They are not western so they get ignored by the western mainstream.

>>4890258

>Holocaust

>not 300k tops

>Abortions

>not 0

>Implying fetuses are human babies

>Implying potential humans are equal to actual humans

If you are pro-life, the only logical conclusion of your belief is that all eggs should become humans. Killing a woman is equivalent to killing a million people (number of unfertilized eggs)

Every time a woman has a period without being pregnant, she's murdering a human being.

If you are pro-life and you're not constantly raping women to get them pregnant, you're full of shit.