3ac51c No.4896828
New Bernie thread since the other one seemed to be a big hit and reached it's bump limit rather quickly.
>Median income would soar by more than $22,000. Nearly 26 million jobs would be created. The unemployment rate would fall to 3.8%.
>Those are just a few of the things that would happen if Bernie Sanders became president and his ambitious economic program were put into effect, according to an analysis given exclusively to CNNMoney. The first comprehensive look at the impact of all of Sanders' spending and tax proposals on the economy was done by Gerald Friedman, a University of Massachusetts Amherst economics professor.
>Friedman found that if Sanders became president – and was able to push his plan through Congress – median household income would be $82,200 by 2026, far higher than the $59,300 projected by the Congressional Budget Office.
>In addition, poverty would plummet to a record low 6%, as opposed to the CBO's forecast of 13.9%.
>The U.S. economy would grow by 5.3% per year, instead of 2.1%, and the nation's $1.3 trillion deficit would turn into a large surplus by Sanders' second term.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/08/news/economy/sanders-income-jobs/index.html?sr=fbCNN020816sanders-income-jobs0524PMVODtopLink&linkId=21086984
3ac51c No.4896851
Archive for the last thread here, https://archive.is/w0HCq . In case anyone needs to go through it and find any relevant information or points from the last thread that they want to bring up in this thread. Lot's of really good information in that thread.
d60f8b No.4896946
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a3a899 No.4896951
Don't focus on the dem candidate until the nominee is picked. Then convince them to go to Trump or stay home
4da1cc No.4896964
d4dcdb No.4896965
77b302 No.4896966
2a1699 No.4897006
>>4896828
Quality thread, chaim.
f8fb06 No.4897014
>>4896951
Are you retarded.
If anything, /pol/ should be behind Bernie Sanders, at least until he beats Hillary.
If anyone else but Bernie or Trump wins the nominations in any of the parties, shit will go bad.
Think about 4-8 years of another Clinton. This would be suicide in the United States.
3ac51c No.4897024
>>4896965
>>4896966
Sorry lads, but >>4896964 was right. I'm the famous Liz person that no one outside few the Trumpfaggots actually know who she really is.
99a482 No.4897048
According to this guy, some economist.
Economics is not a science and can't make predictions. Also, this guy seems to have socialist leanings.
99f8ef No.4897060
>>4897024
Okay Liz I have to ask.
How long is your penis when erect?
Sage because my question is degenerate
dc9126 No.4897061
>>4897024
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he is doing. He knows exactly what he is doing.
99f8ef No.4897071
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Liz Mair doesn't know what he is doing. He knows exactly what he is doing.
3ac51c No.4897095
>>4897060
It's a clit, and if you've ever seen "One Night In China" you'll know exactly how big it can get.
99f8ef No.4897105
>>4897095
>Liz
>not a man
nice try
cf37fe No.4897110
>>4897014
No, because against Hillary Trump will win in a massive Landslide, if people get behind Trump this hard the Ovatrian Window will be pushed to the extreme
75d60b No.4897113
>Seriously expecting /pol/lacks to ever vote for a literal socialist jew
Shill harder, Danny
3ac51c No.4897130
>>4897105
It doesn't matter what my outward appearance and what my DNA says I am, it only matters what I feel like I am.
>>4897110
This guy is right, you know.
Clinton Vs. Trump is your guy's safest bet. It's also the riskiest though.
99f8ef No.4897132
>>4897113
>/pol/acks
>not /PoL/lards
cf37fe No.4897141
>>4897130
Its a situation where if rigged America will notice its rigged and will revolt
f8fb06 No.4897178
>>4897024
Im very sorry lad. But you seem to think that you are liz.
I am a true trans-liz.
Since birth I have known that I have been liz. My parents wouldn't accept me as liz. But I killed them and have succeeded in changing myself through surgery into Liz.
You will never be as much Liz as me.
f8fb06 No.4897201
>>4897110
The polls are still on a 50/50 between Trump and Hillary.
We know that Hillary has a hard time against Trump, and he can use the excuse that she is backed by the corporate elite.
But once Hillary is chosen all the elite will be behind her. Maybe even Fox. Maybe most of the republican candidates like Jeb Bush and others.
2a1699 No.4897208
>>4897178
I don't know who is Liz anymore
99f8ef No.4897209
>liz
>lizard
>reptillian
>Liz Mair is a reptillian
FINALLY I TRULY SEE
3ac51c No.4897240
>>4897178
Let's be Liz together.
f8fb06 No.4897242
>>4897110
People should be based on their merits and their actions. Not just the religion they or their parents followed.
Many people like to claim that Jesus was a jew and he kinda fucked over the Jews.
Why can't Bernie be a jew who is fucking over jews.
There might probably be multiple jewish elites fighting each other. Maybe Bernie is one of the Commie-Jews fighting the Corporate-Jews like the bilderberg group and rothschilds
f8fb06 No.4897247
>>4897240
We will use our psionic energies to merge and create a Liz Archon
3ac51c No.4897279
>>4897247
Trump won't know what hit em.
99a482 No.4897296
Nobody is discussing the article. Just a little in the previous thread.
Where can I find some economist responses to this?
3ac51c No.4897324
>>4897296
I honestly would like to read through a good discussion on this stuff. To see legitimate pros and cons from both sides so that I could make a more informed opinion on the matter and then help contribute to further discussion on it at a later point. I mean, that is why I came to /pol/ to begin with, to learn more information.
07df86 No.4897356
f8fb06 No.4897401
>>4897296
The thing is that in a few European Countries they have already tried and tested a few of the ideas Bernie Sanders wants to implement into the USA. In many ways, I think the United States is in some respects a better place for some of these ideas than other countries.
The United States is the world power. It owns the world and controls almost everything. If the US started deciding that it will no longer accept companies that don't pay any tax money it will severely cripple the countries. Thus they can't simply decide to act like. Well, we will just move our shit to a country with less regulation. In a way, tax evasion is harder to accomplish in the country that rules the world. Where are you going to flee to and what consequences will this have.
I think in many ways, Bernie Sanders lacks the true determism that is necesarry to fight the corrupt in the USA. Sure he is against some forms of corruption, but he seems to be lacking in fighting other forms.
About trump can be said the same thing. What will trump to about the Super Rich? Will he increase taxes? And what about the middle class. Will the middle class grow like Bernie Sanders thinks it will grow under his policies.
The other thing is that Trump will protect the White People in the USA, and defend religion. But in many ways I feel like he will just limit atheists and pro-abortion people too much.
He isn't a true libertarian and anti-corruption. He is a right wing fascist who wants everyone to follow what he believes instead of actually thinking about fixing problems.
140bc4 No.4897466
>>4897296
>>4897324
I don't see anything in Sander's plan that deals with manufacturing. Our biggest economic problem is the fact that all our trade-able jobs are going to countries like Japan and we have hardly any industries to call our own. American companies are more loyal to foreign countries than to us. We cannot continue to consume if we don't produce anything. We're even forced to sell our country right from under us.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/05/investing/china-buys-chicago-stock-exchange/
Trump has the plan to make America competitive in the world market with the use of protectionist policies, which is how America got to where it is anyway but we've since abandoned in the past 30 years or so
2a1699 No.4897482
>>4897401
>america controls everything
>atheist
>pro-abortion
>lolburtarian
>bernie is jesus
You haven't been here long enough to be allowed to post.
3ac51c No.4897567
>>4897401
>>4897401
>Bernie Sanders lacks the true determinism
Bernie honestly doesn't even look like he could survive even a single full term to be honest. He just comes off as the stereo typical, limp wristed liberal pussy, and I think there's a chance the stress would destroy him. I picture him doing the old fashioned overly dramatic fainting pose and then falling out forever. His vice president would probably end up running the country.
>>4897466 (checked)
>that link
oy vey
China is straight up ZOG though too, isn't it? Aren't we down to just like Iran, Best Korea, and maybe Russia a little bit(depending on Putin's mood) that aren't in the long run just ZOG puppets? Or are China in the same basic boat as Russia? Where they could go either way really when it comes down to it. They're not UK/USA/KSA level good goys though.
f8fb06 No.4897583
>>4897482
hur dur dur, you aren't in the same ideology as I am thus you aren't allowed to discuss ideas.
You can be redpilled and have different ideas my friend. Thats what /pol/ was once before the crazy trump-shills took hold.
/pol/ doesn't need to be a hugbox. Not everybody with a different opinion is from that cancerous placed called /leftypol/
2a1699 No.4897603
>>4897583
No, no, no, no, no.
You've found yourself on the wrong board newfriend.
This is /pol/ not /n/.
f8fb06 No.4897622
>>4897603
oy vey you have uncovered my secret. I must now continue shilling and talk nonsense
57fe57 No.4897634
>>4897583
You could atleast pretend you're not from Reddit
f8fb06 No.4897639
>>4897622
check 'em. I've been lucky today with dubs.
>>4897603
But now to get serious. Trump-shill I think you are needed in a real slide thread…
>>>/pol/4897355
2a1699 No.4897659
>>4897639
>I'n not already there
Make as many threads as you want.
140bc4 No.4897689
>>4897567
China just knows how to take advantage of us
f8fb06 No.4897763
>>4897659
>Not knowing how id's work…
99a482 No.4897820
>>4897401
Depends how you define super-rich. Trump is going after the very elite, the ones that buy off votes. That's anti corruption in my book.
You are correct is he isn't going after the super rich. I don't know how you'd do this.
>sanction tax havens
That's one idea. But trump's theme has been moving jobs back to america, instead of locate your company anywhere and pay taxes here. It's better to have them here, because the employees would live here, spending their money here.
2a1699 No.4897827
>>4897763
nigger you what?
2a1699 No.4897992
>>4897915
and I quote
">>4897603 (You)
But now to get serious. Trump-shill I think you are needed in a real slide thread…
>>>/pol/4897355"
">>4897639
>I'n not already there
Make as many threads as you want."
I'm implying you made a thread to direct me.
Make 10, make 100, I'll be there.
Is English not your first language?
99a482 No.4898031
>>4897466
Seems like it's something Sanders says he wants but would have no idea how to get.
He is against TPP and NAFTA. That does deal with manufacturing.
Obviously trump would be much better at this, just saying sanders isn't ignoring it.
f8fb06 No.4898047
>>4897992
I wasn't implying that I was the creator.
I was implying that you were needed in a real thread created by a real shill…
But then you started throwing around a hissy fit yada yada.
The problem with current day /pol/ is, is that you are all so paranoid. You are all so afraid that their might be a jew in your midst. And you just start randomly shooting allies and real /pol/lacks.
There are actual slide threads, that are usually created by trolls from reddit, /intl/, 8chan itself and ofcourse /leftypol/
Maybe there are a few actual people from JIDF like agencies here to disinform. But I doubt they would put any effort into a fringe rightwing site.
f8fb06 No.4898082
>>4898031
I feel in many ways that Trump knows some of the business world and that he would want to destroy this. But at other fields Trump just seems ill informed and simply not intelligent.
I get that he is well favored among the republican voters, because he claims to protect them.
However simply because I believe in a few liberal ideals I am scared of his convictions and in general most convictions of republicans against atheism and other stances like gay rights and abortion.
Not that the democrats are any better. They want to ruin any religion with their own brand of Feminism and other bullcrap that they are spreading.
I simply want there to be enough civil liberty to exercise my own rights. Both the republicans and democrats are way too authoritarian with their policies.
2a1699 No.4898085
>>4898047
>I wasn't implying that I was the creator.
>I was implying that you were needed in a real thread created by a real shill…
And I implied you ARE the creator. It's obvious English isn't your strong suit.
>you
>you are
>you
What, you not from here?
Look Moshi, study some more then come back when you're more convincing.
f8fb06 No.4898120
>>4898085
ugh. lets get to the discussion about ideas, not about my english or whatever other thing you think i am lacking in.
its the same kind of crap as identity politics and calling someone a racist/shill or whatever curse/bully word you want to use. You are simply derailing an argument, because you are too afraid and not smart enough to deconstruct it.
99a482 No.4898135
>>4898082
How has trump come across as anti atheist? I suppose you could say he's anti-gay rights / abortion but that is more up to the supreme court at this point (and is unlikely to be reverted).
Trump hasn't made these things a focus of his campaign either. At his rallies he mainly talks about trade/jobs and the threat of isis/islam. Republicans have made too big a deal about this and it's what's killed them.
f8fb06 No.4898171
>>4898135
I am aware of this. This is why I rather vote for Trump than Bernie Sanders. But mostly because I know he won't screw us over with feminist bullshit on college campuses, which is currently a really big issue.
I am sure we can trust Trump to protect rights of right wing students, which will definitely not be guaranteed by both Hillary or Sanders.
I am also sure Trump wont start any stupid foreign wars in countries that just need to be left to fend for themselves.
2a1699 No.4898173
>>4898120
Whatever, the thread has been put on autosage.
Enjoy your trip to page 25.
f8fb06 No.4898203
>>4898173
It must be a simple life. I think in many ways you are just the average soldier in the SS army or a simple KGB agent. You don't think for yourself, but rather like to be told what to do. So you go on a rampage on /pol/ by whoever you were told to fight against.
Im not here for being shilled down to page 25. Im here to discuss ideas, something that /pol/ is the board for.
2a1699 No.4898227
>>4898203
keep posting Chaim
I already filtered you after your last low-energy post
I wonder if this one is better, but I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of having me read it
99a482 No.4898233
>>4898171
But how would he be anti atheist? He barely talks about religion besides saying merry christmas.
f8fb06 No.4898261
>>4898233
True enough. Seriously if people start complaining about Merry Christmas one more time…
The feminist and Reddit atheist should really kill themselves for ruining a holiday simply because they dont believe in a religion even thou our country is based upon the current believes.
Sweden is really cucked with its shit to try and incorporate muslim holidays into its calendar.
99a482 No.4898331
>>4898261
Give it some time and you might start liking trump. He's a lot smarter than he tries to come across in his campaign (google some older videos of him, he's been thinking of being president for a long time). He's being a politician to get elected, and being bombastic for air time.
He'd probably run as a democrat if he thought it'd be more favorable, but I guess he figured the republican base is more pissed off at PC than democrats, and has to have their positions.
3ac51c No.4899161
Ha. I said in the other thread that the mods were going to anchor this.