/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

To be honest post-birth abortions should be legal all up until the child becomes an adult

>>4916943

I think even after. I know quite a few people I'd like to abort.

If you have a twitter and see someone post that, link them to an adoption agency and left them know they take unwanted children there.

It might make them even feel a little guilty for being so fucking selfish.

>>4917108

It's both. That actually makes me wonder, what the fuck do the Jews do when they've got killed off all the lefties and all that's left is Right Wing Whites?

This is going to be another class of 'victims' right? The poor mothers.

>>4916923

bump because fuck that shit.

>>4916943

Is it too late to abort you?

>>4917196

They'll pivot to China. Why do you think the Jews have made headways into China while simultaneously leading America to constant war from the end of the Cold War onwards?

The last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were particularly important, as most of the money for the military has gone to fighting the wars, not to modernization and offset strategies (which was the main way the US kept a competitive advantage throughout the 20th century). Militaries all over the planet, like China, have been busy modernizing while America has mostly been fighting wars while also making sure the fighting forces are safe for trannies. Of course, there is a big push now for "third offset strategy" that is nearly all directed at a Chinese Sea-Air Battle, which is quite convenient. It's like we are being set up for war and the final blow so our backstabbing rootless elite can eject from the wrecked nation they've produced.

>>4917196

>what the fuck do the Jews do when they've got killed off all the lefties

Where do you get the impression that they're killing off all the lefties?

White liberals are meaningless in the big picture. The true face of the left is brown, and brown birthrates are at an all-time high.

>>4916923

This appears to be a German hash tag.

I'd wager the Hebrews are at fault for this

>>4917350

I don't think I've ever seen a more rat-like face.

>>4917350

I thought that was a man tbh

>>4917350

>ability to get pregnant

>ability

>The quality of being able to do something, especially the physical, mental, financial, or legal power to accomplish something.

>that face accomplishing pregnancy

>>4917333

Anon, the Jews have been in China for almost a century.

>>4916923

Isn't reproduction = degenerate? Antinatalism is one of the most non degenerate things one can do.

>>4917108

All of the belief systems throughout history have been a societal matrix to filter the esoteric vs exoteric, Apollonian vs Dionysian, smart vs dumb…

Lets say there is a template of person, the normie. The normie goes through life building their "self" externally, taking all mythology literally and basing their most intimate psyche off of superficial social relations. Lets say that in modern times, politics and Hollywood has become somewhat of its own mythological pantheon.

Then you have the wizards, the initiates, the creators, the patrican, the "elite". These people understand that they can impose themselves on others by first understanding all that is rooted in them in fact comes from within. They exploit oppurtunity at every chance by relating it to a self that is already grounded, as opposed to having a self that is the external, thus missing oppurtunity and only seeing an EXcuse. (excuse = pretext = outward display)

The reason I bring up this balance, is because these patterns of controlling procreation are nothing new in human history. All religious practices have a literal side that propagates war propaganda and also sexual propaganda. What we see here is obviously the sexual propaganda, but it I feel is intuitive what kind of a person "falls" for this kind of manipulation.

When these kinds of people make fun of traditionalism with 20/20 hindsight glasses, my point is that anything they laugh at, they would have been brainwashed to do all of that stupid shit if they had lived in that previous life, its all the same mechanism.

These people don't "deserve" anything, they already live in Hell. It's a mental hell, their ignorance damns them to an eternity of never knowing how to escape the externalized viewpoint they have. If they could taste eternity, they would be damned to make the same mistakes over and over again.

And don't worry, these people will not be bred out, this is only an act of balance.

Ultimately if we are talking about the feminine spirit, it takes a proper and Willing masculine spirit to lead them on the right path. But all I am willing to talk about right now is the power-relation that causes this phenomenon in a gross sense.

A woman who doesn't want to have children is functionally useless to society. Properly useless.

Gas all of em

>>4916923

Why are all the tweets in german?

>>4917419

existing just to procreate is essentially nihilistic.

I hope you at least believe that man can give meaning to the life brought forth beyond mere existence.

I think its naive to think women can't offer anything else, it suggests little personal experience with women. Culinary talents, animal care, musical abilities women are suited for, so I will sit in my high chair with you and suggest women do these things for me damnit because I'm the man.

You are just trying to elevate yourself in a position of power so you can speak for "society".

What you advocate for is nihilistic because it serves no purpose to gas them, because in the end they won't extend themselves further anyways. Outside of extreme famine situations the only other reason to kill them would suggest a bias of sexual frustration.

>>4917453

i dont actually want to gas them

but

a woman like this is a drain on society

>>4917478

A woman virtue who has no redeeming qualities would be creating a much larger drain on society by actually having children.

>>4917488

>without virtue*

>>4917082

>hurra im a bad cook

>so funny, right?

>so little agency and determination that she wouldn't learn how to cook

I know this picture is stupid but it baffles me just how stupid it really is.

>celebrate fake uterus/sexbots and the phasing out of women

>complain when women don't want to have kids

>???

Sage since not completely on topic.

>>4917478

I like to deal with Poe's law in a constructive manner and at least entertain the thought.

I would like to extend this idea with people who think accusing people of being "shills" is an alright tactic. Just entertain the idea legitimately and you should win if they are a "shill". If they are arguing like shit it should be apparent and lulz.

But I feel where you are coming from absolutely man.

Idk I feel like nobody really cares that these women are just going to end up as waitresses and HR drones and "models". I swear the amount of women who just pay a dude to take pictures of them and try to host their own site, or just fucking throw the photos around boggles me. I don't know how that sustains anything outside of narcissism.

>>4917496

exactly, any human should know how to cook.

>>4917499

This is why transgenderism and homosexuality is being pushed. You push any kind of exoskeletal way of having children, crazy egg implant technologies, adoption. And what you have is a society that religiously accepts requiring the state to have children.

The problem with socialism is its parasitic in trying to make people think they need the government to do everything:

>You can't grow food, you must buy it and we tax it

>You can't own guns, the police protect you

>Religion is false, our schools "enlighten" you.

and COMING SOON

>heterosexual procreation is un-utilitarian, bigoted, impractical and savage. You cannot do it on your own, you require the state to have children.

You have to realize the ideology splitting men and women apart is just that, ideology. It's all brainwashing to condition us outside of our natural human state into a more robotic form of existence. If you don't mind the cliche expressions.

I agree, women are cunts. But if you look in the mirror you should be able to find 100 reasons you are a cunt as well. You have to be able to look in the mirror without the slave-morality ideology to have any influence in this world.

>>4917443

I found it on my FB. A site called "Der Spiegel" did a piece on it:

http://www.stern.de/familie/kinder/regretting-motherhood--orna-donath-schreibt-ueber-muetter--die-bereuen--kinder-bekommen-zu-haben-6678546.html

>>4917413

You have to be a misanthropist to believe this. That we are ultimately doomed to failure.

Why would you being asking for confirmation if you were a misanthropist? Why would you even care what we thought?

I see no point in arguing this any further.

>>4917372

I thought it was? I assumed it was a tranny that was bitching because she couldn't get knocked up and abort it like all the cool girls do.

>>4917571

misantropist and misogynist.

>>4917561

It is. Look how many stupid people are making kids, the more stupid they are the more kids they have.

>>4917601

How is being against the reproductive process not against humanity itself, and how does it give masculinity any purpose?

fucking lol

>whats the point of feeding humans, stupid people eat

You are wasting your time trying to argue with us, you are better off trying to bomb a school. If you had any sense of moral imperative that is what your belief system would lead you to do.

>>4917538

I'm sorry anon but you sound like a dense, fedora tipping, idiot.

In one post you talk about the elite and normie who just follow the mythos, if you will, in another you basically say you should be following the mythos though.

I assureally you that a lot of anons, including myself, would highly appreciate you stop posting since ypur posts are copy pasta length but overall contribute nothing.

I'm really trying to not be rude and in all sincerity mean everything I say in this post with complete honesty.

>>4917601

The dangers of sexuality have long been recognized. Look at the contempt with which the Church Fathers held human sexuality. St.Paul advised men to avoid sex for their own peace of mind. The Ancient and Medieval Catholic Church held that the ideal male state was not marriage, but voluntary celibacy. Marriage was more of a containment chamber for sinful desires. The truth of Original Sin, is that all evil is in origin erotic and sexual. Sex is the Fall from Grace. Gnostics of course took this even further. I'm less familiar with Eastern religions. But various Indian and Buddhist religions also advocated celibacy as an escape from the eternal cycles of illusion.

From a Darwinian perspective, sexual reproduction is the meaning of life, and sex is the highest evolved male pleasure. It is thus hard for men coming from this perspective to see the merits of Wizadry. They are of this world. The only philosopher Darwin cites in the Descent of Man is Schopenhauer. And indeed Schope prefigured many ideas of sexual selection, and how the Will to Life, tricks lovers into fulfilling their role in reproduction. The rejection of the Darwinian drive to reproduce, can also be tied into Anti-Natalism. But everyone who uses a condom is also rejecting Natalism. We go further we reject, the drive and the pleasure itself. We don't want the fruits that Evolution has to offer us. We are in revolt against our Mammalian existence. We reject the Life-milk of the teet.

The antinatalist is the ultimate existential rebel. He rejects his material-biological placement in this plane of existence. He refuses to be a human, primate, ape, mammal, animal, biological organism, material object. He enters into a real of Absolute Freedom. He is bound to no natural law. He is consciousness in revolt against the flesh. The victory of the Mind and Spirit over matter. We are Reason in Revolt against the Universe.

>>4917630

Im sorry for the spelling mistakes but I procrastinated in checking if the auto-correction messed things up.

>>4917627

>le masculinity, le jews, le white race, le alpha males

You ARE a real degenerate, not sjw scum from op

>>4917630

I never implied you should follow religion. I just said the state is trying to take that role.

>>4917653

I never said you did anon. I was using your rethoric, that's all.

I read your awful posts in their entirety.

What I meant with the mythos is whatever the "mythos" is (like you did). In this case it'd be current politics and everything surrounding it.

lmao regretting motherhood is like regretting moving out of your parents basement.

>>4917721

lolled

>>4916951

>>4917042

>>4917221

I am sure someone will soon suggest that people should be able to abort their kid after a few years if it doesn't turn out the way they want it.

>>4917750

>At least put a fucking worm on there dude, I can't eat a fucking hook, god fucking damn it.

I'm not going to deny wanting (you)s, but it was a joke, lad.

>>4917559

Gee, isn't this awfully convenient? Disencourage women from having children while simultaneously flooding their country with mudslimes who seek to replace them.

"PURE COINCIDENCE"

>>4917769

>>4917633

You're both incredibly pretentious, and it annoys me.

>>4917792

That's good too.

>>4917769

the white race is guaranteed to cease existing, m8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe

>>4917832

Yeah… When science have trouble predicting what's going to happen tomorrow, it makes total sense to predict what's going to happen in 10000000000000000000 years.

>>4917832

>heat death

You still buy this shit brah? You need to get that Einstein cock out of your mouth because Gravity is a very minor force in the universe and Space Time warping is bullshit. Electric Universe.

>>4917852

jesus christ mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_free_will

accept it. you are a meat robot. there is no difference between the atoms that comprise your thoughts and the atoms that comprise a rock. stop turning /pol/ into /x/. we actually value science here.

>>4916943

Shilling with your morning coffee in Tel Aviv?

>>4917832

Son, you still don't get it…

… Its not about just getting off this rock.

Its not about just spreading to other rocks.

Its about getting the fuck out of this universe before it dies, if it dies, if escape is possible.

That is the destiny of the white race.

Limitless space…

>>4917864

No, you value the popular cult that has been built up around science. May I suggest colored pictures of nebulae with motivational quotes printed on them for you?

>>4916923

White genocide attacks from many angles.

>listening to what white dumbbitch liberals have to say

these are selfish cunts who wish they could be at the club seven nights a week getting gangbanged by Tyrone and Chad. Fuck them.

>>4917877

Well, what's your theory?

OP here.

The author of the book "Regretting Motherhood" is Orna Donath, a jew living in israel.

She also has made a "Sociopolitical Analysis" (hahahahahaha) on this issue. Just google her

>>4917892

My theory about what? The death of the universe? How the fuck should I know? We don't even know what the universe is and how it works. My theory is maybe we should try to understand that first.

About free will? I don't know about that either. But that last guy who starts talking about atoms and shit… well… that's the level our current tools of observation are able to observe. Who knows what's beyond that.

Personally I like to think we have free will and potential for creation until I see some real proof against it.

>>4916943

To be honest, infanticide should be legal if the child turns out to be a leftist.

>>4917413

Low energy bait.

>>4917196

>That actually makes me wonder, what the fuck do the Jews do when they've got killed off all the lefties and all that's left is Right Wing Whites?

They assume nothing will change.

>>4916943

>Your children should be viewed as animals under the government until they grow up

Hey Chaim

>>4917922

So, just because you don't know, anyone else who tries to think of something that postulates a concept about something that you don't know much about is automatically wrong?

>We don't even know what the universe is and how it works. My theory is maybe we should try to understand that first.

But we do know what the universe is. It's the space that comprises all matter on three planes of space with a constant flow of time and a limit of causality. We know how it works. It works through interactions of matter and energy. Well, that's how the matter and energy within the universe works, the universe itself doesn't have to do anything other than simply be.

>But that last guy who starts talking about atoms and shit… well…

Well, he is right. There's no difference between a standard carbon atom in your body and the same kind of carbon atom in a rock. There's differences on how they're joined together with other atoms, but that's just it. Human's aren't inherently special with their make up in the universe. We're just biological systems advanced enough to understand this. We have enough neuron's in our brain to let us act, think, and do things in the way that we do.

>Personally I like to think we have free will and potential for creation until I see some real proof against it.

Human's do have free will. Just as any other animal does. We weren't bestowed free will by some kind of higher power. There's no evidence denying that human's have free will, but the concept of free will as you're putting it is, I feel, wrong.

>Potential for creation

Creation of what? Other humans? The human race wouldn't be anything other than dead if we weren't able to do this. What do you exactly mean by this?

>>4917350

Is that a male or female?

>>4917108

It doesn't work like that, political opinions aren't genetical, they're cultural.

Every white child is a blessing (unless it's deformed or retarded) and can under the right environment grow up to a great member of society.

>>4917601

>There are lots of stupid parents

>So I will avoid being a smart parent

>>4917453

>existing just to procreate is essentially nihilistic

How?

Also, it isn't "just to procreate" as if simply creating psuedo-replicants of yourself is all that entails "having children". The whole caring and raising them to be functional members of society is implied.

>>4916943

for niggers

>>4916943

if black then yes

>>4916951

They even aren't trying to hide it anymore:

https://twitter.com/JuedischeOnline/status/697395344422862848?lang=en

>>4917082

>I'm a bad cook

Am I the only who's bothered by the fact that most women can't cook anymore?

>>4917633

can i go back to being a virgin and feel this level of exaliftin please

>>4916943

>post-birth abortions

Whatever happened to putting a kid up for adoption?

I don't understand. It seems to be common knowledge around here thst jews need more population to help pay for the retired generations.

Is it possible that this 'whites are endangered' scare is just made up to encourage more wage slaves to pay the jews/old people?

>>4917042

Mass aborting in gas chambers, yeah

It didnt happen but It should

>>4917864

>References imaginary science to prove the reductionistic fantasy world

Ah, autism, Sagan fanboy is thy name.

>>4917864

>IF THIS SPECK OF DUST WAS THE NUCLEUS OF AN ATOM, THE ELECTRONS WOULD B THIS CATHEDRAL

>>4919156

ps this is a stanford neurobiology lecture there is basically zero chance of you watching. it talks about why your laughable reductionist viewpoint breaks down after even a prokaryotic level of complexity in a system.

you have literally zero idea what the fuck you're on about.

you have a sub undergrad understanding of what science is and the implications of scientific knowledge

kill yourself or shut your mouth

>>4918890

sssh anon, such badthink will get you labelled as a 'shill' and a 'nose'

Reminder to have at least 3 kids

>>4917350

>I need male right activism, because i don't want to be judged by my ability to make females pregnant

>I need male right activism, because i don't want to be judged by my ability to write my name in the snow

This how retarded her argument is, but reversed

>>4918847

>Whatever happened to putting a kid up for adoption?

No. see, that doesn't destroy the white race.

>>4916923

Why are you bothered goyim? We're just advocating for the death of the white race. :^)

>>4917196

>>4917108

It will make whites a minority even in their own countries. Don't think there's a single positive thing to come of this.

>>4917586

>tranny

>she

>>4917496

It's satire.

I fucking hope.

>>4919347

>and letting nignogs shit out millions of tarbabies a year helps protect the white race? You're deluded.

>>4919391

Abortion seems like a double-edged sword in that manner. There's really no way to encourage groids to abort their turd-babies while simultaneously encouraging white girls to have children in a stable family environment. At least, it would be hard to get that message to the blue-pilled masses. Building unashamed white identity is really the first step, since white girls who're proud to be white are probably less likely to have abortions, and be generally sucked into the mindless materialistic jew culture.

>>4919175

> it talks about why your laughable reductionist viewpoint breaks down after even a prokaryotic level of complexity in a system.

A cyberneticist knows that macroscopic (emergent) behavior depends primarily on the significant trends. The reductionist argument against free will is supported by the macroscopic argument against it as well. This is because the phenomena that lead to such things as reflexes, impulses, and emotions must be emergent.

There's a reason that certain movie scenes are touching or scary or humorous to the audience – It's not that everyone is doing their own thing in response. You really can predict how the brain will respond in most cases to a stimulus.

Now, the cybernetic argument for free will is that we are capable of decision making and thus capable of making our own decisions. Experiences can change our minds. However, these decisions are based on what the mind deems worthy of storing – a much lower resolution of data and dictated by the primitive functions of learning ancient to most mammals.

And the evidence for this stance against free will is that we can determine with a high degree of certainty what you will decide several moments before you are aware of your decision:

http://exploringthemind.com/the-mind/brain-scans-can-reveal-your-decisions-7-seconds-before-you-decide

If the more data I have about a mind means the more predictable it becomes, and this is born out by evidence, then it stands to reason that if I had a complete map of your brain I could emulate any stimulus and predict your response absolutely. I could provide a myriad of responses to the simulated mind and then pick the ones that generate the outcomes I desire, and then fully control you, like a meat puppet. Granted we do not yet have this level of insight into the brain, but it is foolish to think we will not soon achieve it.

(see: vid related)

My point is that it is not necessary to know with absolute certainty every position of every sub atomic particle or even the strength of each axon connection in order to remove your free will. How else do you think we cyberneticists create artificial intelligences? Do you think the simulations in my artificial neural network have any more free will than what I give them? I can reverse engineer every neuron pathway if I wanted to. However, it is sufficient to manipulate them at the macro scale. In fact, I can achieve the outcome training by merely setting up a genetic program of evolution which selects for the behavior I want and produce this outcome. Is this not the very same method by which we create new breeds of dogs?

You can no more change your mind to a large enough degree to demonstrate free will than you can change your hair color at a whim.

>>4919434

>He thinks that you can hard code specific behaviors into subsymbolic AI like ANNs

pseudoscientist pls go

>>4919551

/pol/ is always right

>>4919551

How does nobody else but /pol/ see the connection between kikes and these "progressive" agendas?

They don't even try to hide what they're doing anymore.

>>4917864

>materialistic reductionism is "science"

You don't know a shit about what "science" is.