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Read the board rules. Join the FSF or the FSF Europe! Install Trisquel or Parabola!

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 No.128[Reply]

Hello /rms/,

What's your opinion on Parabola GNU/Linux? It's basically Arch without the binary-blobs, nonfree software, and your-freedoms.

I installed it a few days ago, and so far I'm really enjoying it. It even supports my two shitty wireless cards without nonfree drivers (thanks, GNU/Linux-libre!). I'm towing a line here because I _did_ install yaourt, but only to simplify the replacement of systemd with openRC (which works perfectly using the arch guides). I currently have no nonfree software installed, which is pretty nice seeing as things are working fine without it.

So; Parabola tips thread! Anyone interested in replacing systemd with openRC, I can help you with most issues that arise.
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 No.140

>>136
>Kind of how Debian doesn't get the free software certification
It's a bit similar, yes. The AUR and debians nonfree repository both provide infrastructure for distribution of proprietary sofware. Doesn't really matter how much they're integrated in the system, and if they're being used by default. They're part of their respective projects and are intended to be used with their systems, there are developers and maintainers spending their resources on keeping them working flawlessly etc.
It's fine to use Debian or use the AUR if you are attentive to what you're installing on your system, but it's a valid reason not to add Debian to the list of completely free distros. Actually I would seriously have to start doubting the FSF if they were to do that. "yeah this is a list of completely free operating systems, and also one popular one that we just added because people like to use it despite it not really meeting the standards we set ourselves. but fuck it if we put it on this list at least some people will be pleased." they have a clear ideology, they shouldn't compromise just when it is convenient.

 No.169

>>140
That's quite sensible, you make a good point.

 No.222

As someone who's only ever used debian-based distros before, would I be able to jump into parabola without having any arch experience? or does it assume some prior arch knowledge that I wouldn't understand?

I've used GNU+Linux as my only OS for over 2 years now so I feel It's about time I try something new. I'm saving up for a gluglug laptop at the moment, so I see it as the perfect opportunity to start fresh with.


 No.223

>>222

You can jump into it, but expect to look up things on the Arch wiki a lot.


 No.224

>>223

Fair enough, thanks




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 No.118[Reply]

Many people involved in free software are themselves developers, and as software developers we of course employ versioning systems. While Github was always haram (see also: http://www.libreboot.org/github/ ) many just opted for Gitorious as a completely libre alternative.

But it seems like things are changing: https://about.gitlab.com/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-gitorious/ So basically Gitorious becomes a part of GitLab, you can take your projects to GitLab or leave. GitLab doesn't sound as bad as GitHub, but it's not really an alternative in terms of software freedom imo. That's why I just wanted to remind you: host things yourself! It's especially easy when it comes to Git, which is already a bit decentralized by nature. If you need a few other alternatives to GitLab, look here: http://jxself.org/goodbye-gitorious.shtml
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 No.178

to me Kallithea looks like the best thing ever right now. you can of course host it yourself, but if you don't want that I found this website: https://gitbull.org/git let's you create private and public repos as much as you want. I don't know who "Free Software Corsica" (the makers of this website) are but eh, it's not like you'd lose git repos if they ever go offline.
>muh decentralization

 No.196

>>178
I would like to see Gitorious forked, possibly by a community that keeps adding features to it, like bug tracking.

I think AGPL > GPL for this kind of software, but if this doesn't happen and Kallithea gains traction then I will definitely move to it

 No.205

I'm now using Gogs after trying out Kallithea and seems nice so far. Tracked all my projects for 2 weeks now, and only crashed twice (but I think I figured out how to make it not do that in the future).


 No.216

What about http://gitgud.net/?


 No.221

I personally moved to Free Softwareil, which I host in my VPS.

It is actually not Git-based but a different DVCS, but it comes packed with a web interface, issue tracking and a wiki, and puts those things under version control. The VCS features are also better and easier to learn than Git IMO.




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 No.34[Reply]

post your free distro ITT
Who /trisquel/ here?

Board owner pls add free distro flags.
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 No.208

Do you guys like gentoo?


 No.209


 No.214

>>208

They should like gentoo: it has flags specially made to remove non-free components of prebuilt binaries (bindist), and LICENSE="-* FREE" makes sure only free software will ever grace your temple.


 No.215

Slackware users can now get in on the GNU/Fun out of the box

https://pipedot.org/story/2015-05-02/connochaetos-a-libre-slackware-based-distro-resumes-development

I have just been using the FreeSlack guide, but will probably try this out soon.


 No.220

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Parabola here.




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 No.107[Reply]

I am a student, and my school relies heavily on computers for everything. I run Parabola as a hobby OS, and I currently have manjaro on my other computer (I want to change it). I use Libreoffice for both, because I like it.

My school recommends openoffice, but I figure libre > open. I have noticed that my teachers sometimes have trouble opening .odt files with Wangblows Office. I have made some of my teachers install Libreoffice itself, but I'm wondering why Microsoft Office would have problems opening libreoffice documents? I can open Microsoft documents with libreoffice, and Office files are proprietary while libreoffice files are libre, so why would microsoft fuck up implementing compatability for .odt files?

Is it a conspiracy?
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 No.109

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>>107
Well if Microsoft Office can't handle OpenDocument files correctly then it's honestly only their fault. I think at least recent versions of Office should be able to handle them, though. Also there's this Add-in, I obviously never tried it myself but maybe it's good: http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter/
Microsoft page on this stuff: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Use-Word-to-open-or-save-a-document-in-the-OpenDocument-Text-odt-format-77adca05-9543-45c7-a079-b344493c4776
Also LibreOffice/OpenOffice are not really different when it comes to the document format, so just use LibreOffice. And yes make your teachers install/use it.

>pic related, a campaign by fsfe

 No.161

>>107
I had the same problem, It literally says something like "Cannot open this file" but if you click ok it opens just fine.

 No.219

I seem to remember this big controversy about Microsoft purposely not supporting open document formats.




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 No.197[Reply]

This man made your freedoms a reality.

You do understand that, don't you?
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 No.211

>This man made your freedoms a reality.

yes, he among many others.

>true freedom fighter

not so much nowadays. His work on git and GNU/Linux is very useful for the free software community (linux for the most part, but only after deblobbing it), but his contributions are coincidental, orthogonal… almost accidental; because he doesn't really think free software is the only ethical way of doing software. He's an "open sores" lad for the most part who hates RMS and the FSF for coming up with a new GPL version that would forbid DRM restrictions like tivoization, which is pervasive on GPLv2 software like GNU/Linux.

He isn't a freedom fighter at all


 No.212

>>211

Fuck this formatting!

Board owner:

whenever I write "linux" with the first letter capitalised it is automatically changed to "GNU/Linux", even though I am using "linux" in its correct sense: the name of a kernel.

This censorship is disgusting, please fix it


 No.213

>>212

I agree with this. If someone is posting here, the chances are that they already know when to say GNU/Linux


 No.217

Li‬nux is not GNU!


 No.218

>>217 (continued)

wordfilters mainly exist so newfags are easily recognized and because it can be lulzy. they're not always supposed to make sense.




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 No.195[Reply]

I did it guys. I'm finally free-ing my mobile computing and supporting an awesome project at the same time (Libreboot).

 No.200

It arrived, it's pretty nice so far. I just wish you could choose bigger SSDs, 120gb is a tad small. But I guess that just forces me to finally manage my files a bit better.

 No.210

>>195

good for you OP. I personally prefer the X60 tablet




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 No.127[Reply]

Years ago Stallman wrote a fictional prophetic story about a future where you will need an "official" license by the state and corporations in order to do anything on a computer. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html

Recent developments seem to confirm this prophecy. Intel is conspiring with hardware manufacturers like Lenovo/Thinkpad, to prevent any changing of the firmware and eventually the OS itself from manufacturer controlled defaults http://patrick.georgi-clan.de/2015/02/17/intel-boot-guard/

We've all known the TPM would eventually be used for such shenanigans but with "Intel Boot Guard" this has become a reality. The CPU can refuse to boot the system if the keys for the software do not match, and there's fuck all you can do. You can't change the TPM keys, you can't "hack" the molecule sized SoC CPU to prevent this either.

This is going to expand, especially with consumer devices like Android handhelds becoming walled gardens. The situation has gotten to the point where it's necessary to stockpile older and freer computer parts. I suggest you become a Stallman prepper by purchasing old boxes to use when suddenly we wake up and discover that Intel/AMD and ARM are peddling a SoC that runs entirely proprietary software which conspires with the hardware manufacturer TPM keys to prevent any changing of the operating system, firmware or even installing apps not "approved" by Lenovo, IBM, HP, Dell, Samsung, LG, Apple, ect.

There's already people in my country pushing for developer licensing so if you call yourself a 'software engineer' you must subscribe to some guild-like entity and they can only bless you with this status. Then because we supported proprietary development tools so much they will become the defacto tools and will require licenses and permission to use. Everything you do with them will be messaged home to verify you aren't a hacker or miscreant intent on disrupting the state or violating copyright/Intellectual Property bullshit.
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 No.171

>>127
restricted boot and treacherous computing aren't exactly new.

this is what you get when you buy processors based on nonfree designs, with patented ISAs and sometimes without a publicly known ISA at all (like GPUs), forcing you to use the manufacturer's driver/compiler.

Support libre hardware design, buy a Novena chipset, a Beaglebone board, more so, buy a lowRISC CPU when it's ready.

or if that's too adventurous to you at least think twice before buying new hardware. If you can't resist going for 80x86 at least buy AMD. Check h-node.org

 No.179

>>156
>eleventy billion quatloos
>not eleventy billion shekels

 No.182

>>179
bitcoin :^)

 No.194

>>127
When this happens the EU is going to fuck em up the arse.

 No.206

We're all living in Komongistan, Komooongistan ist wunderbar! https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/komongistan.html




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 No.19[Reply]

So I want to make a webm thread with quick clips from rms speeches etc. where he says interesting stuff.
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 No.189

>>181
Perhaps in a way. I just find it shocking that he's never installed GNU/Linux before.

 No.190

>>189
If I had people working for me I wouldn't do anything myself :p

 No.203

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well hw uploaded this webm himself, and I think it's very good and probably a good fit here in this thread.


 No.204

>>203

ah btw it's from some kind of bitcoin conference if I understood hw correctly. I'm not that much informed about cryptocurrency world so I don't know anything else.


 No.207

>>204

good video indeed. all i can say is: learn about cryptocurrency. even if you don't intend to use it, it is just amazing to see how it works and how brilliant it is and doesn't require that much time to learn about.




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 No.51[Reply]

Is anyone here a due-paying member of the FSF? Aside from the main benefit of being able to call yourself someone who supports Free Software financially, are there any other good/cool benefits?
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 No.92

>>88
Well, if you didn't want to do it yourself, I suppose you could. The Gluglug is literally a librebooted X60 (or X200) with an aetheros wifi card and Trisquel installed. I've recently bought an x60 on ebay, and I'm planning on converting it to a gluglug for a fraction of what it costs to buy.

 No.93

>>92
that's a very interesting project then. report back pls.

 No.186

>>92
Aren't gluglugs factory refurbs

 No.192

>>93
I did this and it is easy if you are not stupid.

 No.193

probably still just gonna buy a gluglug to support the libreboot project



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 No.82[Reply]

So I bought a TL-WN722N because I hoped I would finally get Wifi to work on my Trisquel install, but I'm still stuck. Yeah, whatever. Do you guys have any experiences with hardware and getting it to run with libre-only drivers/software?
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 No.84

Got the wn722n working with trisquel, seems like my iso was fucked or something. And hey, even my random Logitech webcam seems functional.

 No.173

>>82
h-node.org

buy something based on Atheros 5 or 9 and it will surely work under all FSF-approved distros

 No.176

I would get one of those, but my laptop only has two USB ports…

 No.177

>>173
>h-node
yeah I bought this because I researched it before on h-node and #trisquel on freenode recommended it:
https://h-node.org/wifi/view/en/357/Atheros-Communications-Inc--AR9271-802-11n/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/TL-WN722N

it is atheros AR9271 and it works fine if you don't fuck up your system

>>176
you could always use something like a hub etc. depending on how mobile you want to be. but I think you can also try and replace the wifi inside of the laptop.

 No.191

I now have two of these TL-WN722N sticks and they're probably the best wifi sticks around. I hope we will have AC hardware that works well with libre drivers and firmware in the near future, but for now this is really nice.



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 No.187[Reply]

I'm curious about how much of /rms/'s own code is free/libre.

<strawpoll.me link removed>
alternative version: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/privacy/How_free_is_your_software/
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 No.188

>linking a website that uses proprietary javascript for voting
You seriously expect anyone to vote?



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 No.76[Reply]

Software freedom is one important issue, but what about other stuff? For example cultural works. What do you think about copyright, is it beneficial or harmful for advancing our society? Because I'm a weeaboo (at least when it comes to the language), I'm often reading stuff on Aozora Bunko, which is basically the Project Gutenberg of Japan. Now I read this article on the EFF Deeplinks Blog that says that communities like Aozora Bunko (they call it the Blue Sky Library in the article), could be harmed by current political changes:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/few-global-cultural-treasures-lose-20-years-under-tpp

That kind of development seems to be nothing new. This video, which probably most Aozora-buffs know about, is from 2007 if I remember correctly: http://a.pomf.se/oikivx.webm (Don't worry I uploaded the version with subtitles.) I personally don't understand for example -at all- why copyright extends after your death. The concept of intellectual "property" is already flawed enough imo, but how can you intellectually own something when your intellect doesn't exist anymore?

 No.77

so your family can shamelessly continue to make money off of your ideas and creations after your death

 No.78

>>77
I mean, even most authors/creators of copyrighted works should see how stupid that is. We should promote an easy way for them to transfer all their works into the Public Domain as soon as they drop dead.
>inb4 kopimi-activists hire assassins

 No.80

Yes hello I came here to say that copyright is stupid.

 No.112

I don't see any reason for exception from copyleft in a moral standpoint. There are economic advantages to copyright, in in most cases they only benefit companies and not consumers. I personally value morality over economics though, so I believe it's a worthwhile sacrifice.

If people are truly interested in something, they will be willing to do it for free. If they will only do things if they are paid for it, then they can't care much for it, so frankly they should just do something else. This does not just apply to free software, it applies to science and art too.

If something's source is open, then nobody would need to work on it full-time, as its pool of developers will be open to any internet user, rather than being restricted to one company. So people will be able to some other paid work alongside it (though if a project is popular enough, it may gather enough in donations to allow for people to work full-time on it.

I should state that I do not believe in commumism. An ideal system would be one that encourages private business, but greatly favours small (ideal local) business.

 No.184

>>76
http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm

It is only logical that copyright should only rest with the author(s)/creator(s) of a work for the duration of their life. I would go further and make all IP last only 10 years from their date of creation before moving into the public domain.



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 No.123[Reply]

I recently bought an IBM Thinkpad x60 and flashed libreboot to it. The process was super-painless and now I have a computer that I can say that I own 100% of. After flashing libreboot, I replaced the wifi card with one that can be run by libre drivers and I installed Parabola GNU/Linux-Libre on it to an encrypted partition.

Cost Breakdown:

Money:
IBM Thinkpad x60, used: $40 on ebay
Compatible Aetheros Wifi card, new: $5 on ebay
Metal bracket to attach the half-size Aetheros card to the full size mounting: $2.50 on ebay

Time:
Flashing libreboot: 45 minutes
Installing new wifi card: 10 minutes
Preparing HDD for encryption: 4 hours
Installing Parabola on the encrypted partition: 10 minutes
Tweaking the installation so it actually booted to the encrypted partition:
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 No.125

>>124
It's identical to a gluglug except for the physical condition of the laptop itself (I assume they buy refurbished)

 No.157

>>123
Now all you need to do is remove the Windows sticker.

 No.158

>>123
>>157
I saw the same thread/picture on halfchan /g/, OP is that your picture or did you just take it from there?

 No.164

>>158
I got it from the guide I used to flash libreboot

 No.170

>>123
bought an x60t because it was the next logical step in my path to computing freedom. I still have to buy an Atheros AR9XX card but I didn't wait to flash Libreboot on it.

I noticed some functionality was lost after Libreboot, namely persistent backlight and possibly external VGA output, but the advantage in only running free software on the CPU from the moment you hit the on button outperforms everything else. I don't even know if those are real coreboot/libreboot problems or just some missing configuration from my part. The default GRUB configuration is a bit clumsy too.

I'm very pleased with my purchase. This 2006 x60t thinkpad replaced my old laptop from 2008, and the prices are well… amusingly low as expected for a used laptop this old.



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 No.162[Reply]

Thoughts on net neutrality? Our GNU+Savour seems to be for it.

 No.163

It's not a white-black issue, but many poltards treat it like it is one. I just yesterday saw some guys from Australia arguing about downloading a game from Steam (yeah you shouldn't use Steam or proprietary games in the first place of course, but let me finish) and the discussion was kinda like this:

A: Hey, I want to check out the new Elder Scrolls content. Too bad I uninstalled it last week.
B: Well the patch was basically as big as the whole game, you're not off worse.
A: Man it sucks living in Australia and having data caps.
B: Steam downloads are in the no-quota zone for most ISPs. Check Google.

Of course I can't really sympathize with people playing a proprietary online game, but what really angered me is that there already seem to exist stuff like "no-quota zones" in some countries. (I never heard of something like this in Germany. At least not for regular home internet. Mobile carriers are already co-operating with for example Spotify.) Data caps are fine imo, as long as they apply to any kind of IP traffic. Traffic isn't gratis after all, I have to pay for traffic in any kind of data center, so I don't see why I shouldn't have to pay for it at home. But making some form or shape of traffic exempt from this rule is a no-go. It's anti-competitive and anti-consumer. As a consumer, if I would have to choose between an ethical music distributor like Magnatune and an unethical one like Spotify I would also have to pay more for traffic exchange with Magnatune just because it's not Spotify. Or in Australia, do they get free Desura downloads? Can I install Lugaru without paying for bandwidth like I can install Elder Scrolls Online? No, I probably can't.



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 No.151[Reply]

Fast! We need to improvise something. /rms/ needs a birthday gift for the prophet. Do you guys have any ideas? A cool program, or maybe some dank memes in an image?

 No.152

We should have started weeks earlier. We could invite him on here, maybe? I doubt he will see it, as he probably is getting a lot of emails today and in the following days.

 No.153


 No.154

>>152
Yup I totally forgot about it.

>>153
I hope they will say it's his birthday present from /tech/ AND from /rms/.

 No.155

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>>154
/rms/ is in the image, but not in the text of the mail.

 No.160

>>155
That'll do.



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