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 No.1780[Reply]

What do you guys think about good documentaries? Are they informative? Do they give you actual knowledge of beings, landmarks, facts etc.?

Do you think you can retain that information, or do you think that you should just read books if you are interested in that specific thing? Do you watch documentaries? Do you re-watch them? What are your favourites and why?

My opinion is that they are very good to see the big picture of things. If you want to glance at the possibilities of living beings and scenery on earth, but don't want to get full understanding behind how it works. Basically, you may not learn a lot about a specific thing because you've seen more things.

My favourite is Cosmos by Carl Sagan, Planet Earth, BBC Life, Frozen Planet, BBC The Human Body. I got them all in HD quality so I can see the beauty of earth. Cosmos also inspired me to think more about the universe and I watched it many years ago.
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 No.1800

I like watching history documentaries about the same subjects but made in different coutnries

 No.1818

>>1788
Mad after 45 seconds, nice work anon.

 No.1830

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Just saw the last episode of this on PBS last night. Really enjoyed it as a whole. As someone with a formal training in ecology, I still have trouble believing that more grazing animals can churn the earth and result in a more vibrant grassland–as long as there's a predator to keep them on the move.

Had no idea the Colorado River was in such a dilapidated state and doesn't even reach the sea anymore due to our excessive irrigation diversion.

 No.1837

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I think there are two things that limit the usefulness of documentaries for education.
One is that for some reason all the best documentary filmmakers tend to focus on more social issues; some human rights crisis somewhere. If Ken Burns made a science doc it would probably as watchable and entertaining as all his other stuff.
The other is that the mix of spoken words and images is an effective but slow way to present data. I can watch lions hunt or whatever all day like lots of folks but if I really wanted to understand lion behaviour I would read.
I'ts good entertainment, it good for kids or any layman curious about something outside their field but print will always be the most effective way to learn.

 No.1843

>>1788

This shit is gold

>the magnetic poles flip and the sun now rises on the west



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 No.1796[Reply]

I've been doing a lot of reading on bankruptcy problems (a subdiscipline of social mathematics or game theory) and throughout the articles I've read, a few claims have always been assumed to be true without any actual effort to proof them. Occasionally, an author will write "It can easily be shown that" or "It is trivial to proof that" or "It obviously follows that" and it pisses me the fuck off because I can't figure it out so apparently I'm just stupid. I'll attempt to condense it all down to a few equations so that I don't have to take you through all the formalities of bankruptcy problems:

Image 1 shows all the claims that are true by definition. (I think they're the only relevant relationships and definitions, but the longer I spend on this, the more I suspect that I must be missing a key stipulation without which the proof isn't possible.)
Image 2 shows the claim that is supposedly easy to proof.

I've been at this for hours, and while I concede that I'm not a mathmatician and generally stupid, I just don't see how this could possibly be done. The main problem seems to be that lambda and mu are defined only through sums, while the claim in image 1 pertains to individual elements.

I'd appreciate any input, wether it's ideas on how to do the proof or reasons for why it can't be proven or wether you just call me a faggot.
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 No.1808

>>1805

If he's talking about sigma then it means something else completely.

 No.1831

Well, this can't hurt to try:

Isn't Image 2 just the third equation in image 1 with the E and L swapped out for the summations?

I don't understand how you would make all the summations resolve once they were all together, though.

 No.1832

>>1831
Forgot about the algebraic manipulation necessary to get it into the form of Image 2, whoops.

 No.1833

>>1831
I think understand how to resolve the summations now.

Because you are adding the same number of elements in each summation, which is i, you can split off each "version" (this term is wrong) of i into an equality. Pretty sure this is due to the hereditary properties of arithmetic progressions.

example:
(1+2+3) + (60+70+80) = (61+72+83)
or
If you have arithmetic progressions with the same number of terms (a,b,c) and (e,f,g), and they are in a summation which results in another arithmetic progression with the same number of terms (h,i,j) then:
a + e = h
b + f = i
c + g = j

 No.1841

>>1833
Well, this is wrong. Found a counterexample.



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 No.471[Reply]

What is your opinion on tetraoxygen (oxozone)?
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 No.865

screw you guys ethanol and Δ⁹-tetrahydrocannabinol are where it's at.

 No.868


 No.1753

>>471

This plus metastable metallic hydrogen would lead to extremely efficient rockets.

 No.1779

I find it to be very neat.

 No.1840

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Reminds me of disulfur dinitride (first pic).
I really like these sulfur/nitrogen compounds:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disulfur_dinitride
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrasulfur_tetranitride
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polythiazyl
Especially polythiazyl, because of it simple structure but relatively complex mesomerism, because it has some metallic properties despite being compound of two nonmetals, and because its useful for semiconductor electronics.



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 No.1834[Reply]

What's your favourite (direct or indirect) electrosynthesis reaction? Mine is pic related.


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 No.1719[Reply]

>heard about this book from CPG grey podcast
>all dat chemistry, math, science and engineering.
>fucking space


It's technically science fiction but it has lots of interesting stuff in it. Anyone have any other recommendations for books like this one?
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 No.1804

Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds (and it's follow up book Redemption Ark) were GOAT hard sci-fi.

Tackles the question of why we are seemingly alone in the universe with a wonderful explanation

 No.1810

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>>1778
I was just a kid when I read the old stuff and The writers usually make sure they don't cheat the reader by digging up some obscure fact Basically the formula was: Give the reader all the clues and see if they can get to the implication before you give it to them The same as any good mystery i think.
I have not read "The Martian" but after reading your post I read about it and one reviewer said it reminded him of something Arthur C. Clarke would write so I'm guessing it is kind of an homage to that sub-genre
Gobble up a handful of those old asimov shorts to see for yourself. It's a small investment and I have a feeling you won't be disappointed.

 No.1811

>>1804
>Alastair Reynolds

Not OP (I'm 1772) thanks for the recommendation.

 No.1820

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>>1810

I would encourage you to buy it but you can get it for free over on youtube. I listened to it first using the audible free trial but I can't afford 14.99 a month right now so I opted out afterwards.

I'm already paying for FF14 so I can't squench over any extra dosh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVYlypZ34z8

while I was listening I doodled a bit of the characters and story items.

 No.1822

>>1820

I called venket "bruce" in the picture. I must have misnamed him during a flurry of conversations during one part.



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 No.1817[Reply]

Hello, /sci/! Recently I began pondering a question.

If there was a tournament with x people, and one team sent y people (where y is greater than one) while everyone else sent only one, what are the chances that two people from the same team will compete, assuming all initial brackets have the same chance of happening and any person has a 50% chance of beating the person they go up against?

(shitty) pic related, it's the situation when x=4 and y=2 (i.e., four people competing and two from the same team (represented by A here)).

Would anyone be able to help me find the relation between x, y, and the chances of this happening? I know it has to be 100% if y is greater than x/2, but I'm not sure about a general relationship. Thanks!


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 No.1781[Reply]

I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around this concept.

So, the pressure acts uniformly in all directions but here's the catch: the vertical components of all those forces cancel each other out! The final result is that only the horizontal components of the forces act.

Now, the way I see it is that the consequences of this statement should be that–borrowing from the idea of flux passing through an magnetic field–the strength of the horizontal force should be dependent on the angle between horizontal force and the infinitesimal area vector at that point.
Basically, the force at the very sides would be zero however, as you tend towards the center of the curve and the "tangential area" (if I can call it that) becomes increasingly more perpendicular to the horizontal force lines, the force would reach its maximum. Then, after describing this with some kind of equation, you'd do an integration and something nice would pop out.

Instead, you just consider the projected area. Can someone explain where I've gone wrong?

 No.1782

Oh sorry, I think I should say that the picture is a cross-section of a thin pressure vessel.

 No.1783

Because you are dealing with fluids.

Imagine pinching two marbles together from the side. They will go flying off at high speed because there is no friction when they collide with each other.

You are dealing with billions of little marbles, any angle of pressure is reoriented efficiently. All those marbles press together and balanced out the force with almost no friction.

 No.1784

>>1783
>any angle of pressure is reoriented efficiently
So pressures can change direction? It's just that what I was taught was that when pressure acts on an infinitesimal area, the pressure acts on the area from all directions however all these directions mostly cancel each other out leaving a resultant vertical force that acts normal to the surface.

If we apply what you said to the diagram and imagine the pressure acting on the very sides of the curve: according to you, the pressure can exert a horizontal force here too, a force that would not be normal to the surface here.

 No.1791

>>1784
>If we apply what you said to the diagram and imagine the pressure acting on the very sides of the curve: according to you, the pressure can exert a horizontal force here too, a force that would not be normal to the surface here.


You're dealing with two forces in a pressure vessel: longitudinal and circumferential.

If you consider the end caps of the vessel and the pressure acting on them… Everything is accounted for in every direction?

Is this what you're talking about?



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 No.77[Reply]

How can we build a vacuum balloon using widely available materials?
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 No.148

>>77
Widely available materials are too heavy when they're made strong enough to withstand the atmospheric pressure without collapsing.

 No.159

>>148
what if we build a vacuum airship in space?

 No.160

>>77
aluminum?
basically anything rigid that withstands 14 PSI is appropriate
mars curiosity has aluminum wheels and they withstand the entire rover
it shouldn't need to be any more than an inch thick, air has a density of .075 lb/ft3
a 1X1X1 foot cube of aluminum 1 inch thick weighs 71.344 pounds, far too much to be supported by air's weight at that volume, .075
but
a 10X10X10 foot aluminum cube of the same thickness is 8326.864 pounds, notice that this is only slightly more than 100X the weight of the old one, and displaces 1000X the air

mass of balloon/mass of air of equal volume
B1=951.253
B2=111.025
b1/b2=8.568
b2 is 8.568 times more buoyant than b1
apply this to thinner walls or a larger cube and you have a more buoyant object
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 No.1755

>>124

NUCLEAR HOT AIR BALLOON THE SIZE OF A CITY

 No.1789

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>>1755
God damn it, Carl. Stop smoking, it's bad for you.



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 No.1624[Reply]

How much more difficult would space travel be for an intelligent aquatic species? Water is fucking heavy, ya know?

Would an extraplanetary alien civilization be necessarily terrestrial?
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 No.1638

>>1634
How do you contain chemistry when you're surrounded by a soluble liquid? The vast majority of lab reactions take place in solution.

 No.1728

>>1624

The water would however be IDEAL radiation shielding, it may even give a little protection against micrometeorites if frozen as "reserves" in the outer hull and maybe mixed with high performance materials, thus forming a filled whipple shield.

 No.1729

>>1625

No because space is cold but it's a vacuum, not a cold day with wind chill and everything, there's nothing to carry the heat away so it would actually take quite a while to freeze.

 No.1771

>>1638
Well they will have to develop closed containers.
I'm wondering how many old alchemists and early chemists didn't get the results they expected because they neglected to account for their work being exposed to air.

 No.1773

>>1634

There's a book called "Fleet of Worlds" that has an underwater race that evolved on a europa-like moon. They pretty much did everything the hard way. Penetrated the ice layer, sent explorers up in primitive "diving" suites, discovered fire, discovered smelting, etc. It's such a difficult process that I'd question if an advance aquatic species could ever exist past the stone age in real life. Since suites wouldn't be electronic the time on land would be so limited, by the time advance smelting, chemistry, electricity, rockets, etc. were discovered the species might have evolved to live on land anyways.



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 No.244[Reply]

Why would anyone ever need to know how to measure things like the density of a sphere unless they were an engineer?

 No.246

>>244
Finding the density of a sphere is just a baby intro problem to get you onto a track of finding the density of different geometric / non geometric objects / constructs

>why would I need to know the density of something if not an engineer


Most people don't, they are just going to college to prove that they are good goyim who can turn in their HW on time and follow orders for their boss.

>why would you want to know the density of an object


This expands into not only physical density but all kinds of density of areas or hypothetical constructs and is very useful for modelling, programming, data mining, statisticians, nuclear physics, quantum physics, and more.

 No.1760

>>1756
Yep its on the deep net , they have tons of illegal shit down there. Hell even after a few raids I still think the silk road is still around

 No.1764

>>1760

It's not the fact that it's deep net.

More concerning is the fact that it's meant to be live ebola.

 No.1767

>>1764
Is live ebola hard to come by? Aren't there millions of Africans with it right now? I know it's not something you want to just leave laying around but it's not like it's the spanish flu or something.



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 No.1438[Reply]

It's a miracle that we haven't fallen out of trees and died. What exactly gives us the big advantage over other animals?
We lack raw strength(run slow, low muscle mass v. animals,etc), and raw instincts(no natural compass, etc).
Is it our use of tools that have gotten us this far, and our cooperation with each other via language?
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 No.1454

>>1451
A friend of mine grew up on a farm in rural NSW (Australia) and chased kangaroos as a kid. He said they last about 4-5km before collapsing and just laying there breathing heavily.
I have talked to others about it and someone else claimed that if you can keep a rabbit on open ground herding it away from cover they only last 2km and often die of a heart attack.

 No.1464

>>1451
we wouldnt outrun prey….we would walk or jog and just keep the animal moving to the point of exhaustion. Also there are instances of humans literally stealing prey from higher predators (e.g. lions and shit) also africans still do that in the bush so its fucking crazy

 No.1732

>>1454

Seriously?

I thought I was a terrible runner because I can only just about manage a 1/3-1/2 mile at a time due to Asthma and about 2 miles in a day.

So even I could outrun and murderise some delicious animal by myself. Holy shit.

 No.1750

>>1454
Can confirm the rabbit story. I once caught a rabbit by simply chasing it until it couldn't run anymore. Wasn't even a running enthusiast or anything either.

 No.1759

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I read this story once. It might have been a "Ripley's believe it or not"
In the old west there was a guy who made a living running horses to death. He would go into a town, brag he could do it and take a bunch of bets.
He would set up two poles about 1/4 mile apart and the man and the horse would run back and forth between the poles turning around outside the poles.
In addition to the awesome human endurance (and this guy was probably better than most)both had to turn 180 degrees every quarter mile so the man had to use a lot less energy than a hours would. In addition the horse had a man on his back.
They said the race usually lasted three days and the horse would always die. I assume the man needed a week to heal up as well.

The act of hunting by stalking used to be called "Dogging" because that's the way wolves/dogs hunt too. They are also small pack hunters which is probably why we get along so well with each other.



 No.1747[Reply]

hey /sci/ i need a bit of physics help
im building a go-kart for the fun of it, and i wanna know the max velocity my kart can go, the engine is rated at 5kw, formulas would be most helpful because i want to do this by myself, but any help would be good help

 No.1757

>>1747

Wind resistance



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 No.1052[Reply]

World's Simplest Electric Train

The trick in the video is that the magnets are made of a conducting material and they connect the battery terminals to the copper wire, so the battery, magnets and copper wire make a circuit that generates a magnet field just in the vicinity of the battery. The geometry means the two magnets are automatically at the ends of the generated magnetic field, where the field is divergent, so a force is exerted on the magnets.

The magnets have been carefully aligned so the force on both magnets points in the same direction, and the result is that the magnets and battery move. But as they move, the magnetic field moves with them and you get a constant motion.

If you flipped round the two magnets at the ends of the battery the battery and magnets would move in the reverse direction. If you flipped only one magnet the two magnets would then be pulling/pushing in opposite directions and the battery wouldn't move.

 No.1752

>>1052
That's extremely clever and seems like it could be a cheap design for maglev technology.

 No.1754

>>1752
>Maglev

No,

There is no symmetrically divergent force in the perpendicular axis to travel.

This id clever in simplicity but honestly offers no advantage over existing systems with regards to material usage nor efficiency.



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 No.1743[Reply]

Trying to determine a good number of rats I will use in my experiment to make the experiment statistically meaningful.

I am going to be testing food and behavior and was thinking of using 3 groups
will 5 for each group be good enough?
how small can I go and still get meaningful results?

Will double blinding this improve the statistic power of the research? I've read that it always does but I'd like to confirm here since I don't see how it could affect my observations.

Thanks sci bros

 No.1745

You know how to do statistics yes?

It all depends on what level of affect you expect to observe.

If you expect the affect to be absolute such as feeding one group of rats deadly poison and the others regular food, even one rat per group might be enough. (1^1)

If you expect a very subtle change and you wish to actually measure it you need more rats. The key is the degree of confidence and the careful control of variables.


If there is a 50% incidence your food affected the rats behavior than compared to control one rat vs one rat gives you 50% certainty of results.

.5%^5 rats gives you 97% certainty there was an affect of at least 50% incidence.

.x%^5= Use x to find the odds any degree of inverse occurrence and the likely hood of occurring.

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 No.1746

>>1745
thank you best answer of all chans



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 No.1614[Reply]

If you could sequence any organism's genome, which would it be (assuming it hasn't been sequenced yet)?

 No.1623

I think the most elucidating would probably be some long-extinct soft-bodied marine organism that doesn't fossilize well. Take your pick from the many cephalopod orders that fit that description. Or perhaps or some of the more tantalizing Ediacaran animals whose cladistic placement is so hard to determine.

 No.1628

Myself, or something with a very difficult to sequence genome. Everything else will soon be sequenced anyway.

 No.1730

>>1614

I wish to unlock the secrets of the tardigrade.

Even if they probably can't be applied to other organisms so well. But they're interesting being multicellular extremeophiles.

 No.1731

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>>1730
>Tardygrade

Good one.
You do that and I'll do the velvet worm. They don't have the same superpowers as their little cousins but they are amazingly complex for something so primitive.
Comparing the two could teach us a lot too.



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