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 No.2130[Reply]

Sorry for Blogposting
I recently got into amateur astronomy, having this shaky tube standing around (pic related).
700mm main mirror, for 70 eurodollars.
It's really shaky, but I learned using it. I got pretty good at it by observing Sunspots (with a proper objective sun filter, of course). 2x Barlow + 20mm stock objective is perfect for this.
The Sun seems pretty inactive right now.
Other than that I also observed Jupiter and Saturn (both very bright right now, I'm from Luxembourg btw) and saw Jupiters 4 main moons and his stripes. I can't take pictures of these things because I've got neither an expensive camera nor the right telescope to put said expensive camera on for good results. I started drawing the Sunspots on paper, though.
Does anyone here know of something I could use to further filter Sunlight? I watch her in white light only, so watching different visible wavelengths might reveal some currently hidden things, right?
Also, are there filters for planet shine? Jupiter is always very whitish when I observe it.

 No.2140

I also just got a telescope around Christmas time as a gift, I like it. I have wanted to do it for a while, but sadly I live in the city. I would love to get some info or books to where I can learn what I am actually looking at. In the US btw


 No.2151

>>2140

A very basic primer is that stars twinkle while planets don't.

Stars seen through the telescope will just appear as points, while planets appear as disks.

Right now, Saturn and Jupiter should be visible in the US, Saturn is really bright and Jupiter slightly dimmer. They appear at an angle of approximately 90° on the horizon, on the line that the Sun forms at day.




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 No.2118

>>2098
>europa found to have ice on its surface
woo

 No.2122

1st and 3rd most common elements in the universe put together make water. I would be absolutely shocked if it didn't have water on it

 No.2124

>>2122
It's less of the fact that it has water on the surface and more of the fact that the water there is liquid.

 No.2150

WE MARS NOW




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 No.2132[Reply]

what are you studying?

what is your favourite branch/field in science and maths?
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 No.2139

Mathematics.

Category Theory


 No.2141

Physics

Beyond standard model.


 No.2145

Computer Science

>dem turing machines

>dem busy beavers


 No.2148

Agrarian Biology

The most interesting in this subject is landscape ecology, the most baffling for me personnally is Cosmology.


 No.2149

Computer science, but really all branches of math are my interest.




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 No.1868[Reply]

what is science doing lately to prevent catastrophic asteroid impacts?
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 No.1877

The B612 Foundation is as good as it gets right now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B612_Foundation
http://sentinelmission.org/

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Science is not doing much but every government who can afford to is building bigger ka-booms and longer range missiles to put them on.
Unless something really big just comes straight at us out of nowhere we would probably be able to respond.

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 No.2129

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 No.2142

>>1870

We're playing Russian roulette with a billion chamber gun everyday




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 No.2127[Reply]

Hey,/sci/
Let's say I wanna participate in the redbull gravity challange,in which you would have to build something that would prevent an egg falling from 12 meters from cracking.I already have a few ideas but I wanna hear yours

 No.2131

Layered deceleration, drag flaps on top for stability.
Order of energy transfer:
Spring calibrated to speed and mass of entire rig.
Crumble zone of something with gradual failure, materials testing required, thinking Al cans cut into sheets and rolled into tubes.
Solid cage, wood.
Springs holding egg in case.

 No.2134

>>2131

or just wrap it in a shit ton of bubble wrap




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 No.2089[Reply]

http://www.avgeekery.com/blog/2015/2/2/how-the-us-space-shuttle-lost-its-jet-engines

What a shame, imagine what could have been.


As design work by various aerospace companies began on the Space Shuttle program in the late 1960s, it was a given that the Orbiter would have its own jet engines.


Having its own air breathing engines offered three advantages- they would allow atmospheric flight testing much like any other aircraft was tested and pilots could practice landings in the run up to an orbital mission. The engines also facilitated ferry flights, repositioning the Orbiter amongst various facilities (landing, launch, overhaul, etc.). Having its own jet engine propulsion also gave the Orbiter cross range capability upon return from orbit.

Some designers envisioned the Orbiter rendezvousing with a tanker for additional jet fuel


Consideration was then given to using liquid hydrogen as fuel for the jet engines which would cut out the need for jet fuel tanks. In June 1970, NASA issued contracts to GE to study the feasibility of using liquid hydrogen in the F101 engine being developed for the B-1 bomber. Pratt and Whitney also got a similar contract to study the use of liquid hydrogen fuel in the F401 engine, the planned naval derivative of the USAF's F100 engine planned for the F-15 Eagle. Both companies showed that liquid hydrogen fueled jet engines saved about 2500 lbs of weight per jet engine compared to conventionally-fueled jet engines.

 No.2128

You're forgetting the fact that airbreathing engines are a dead weight when leaving the stratosphere, and this is a huge deal when we're talking about lifting 20 tons until you get to LEO. Any mass differences can make or break adjustments of fuel mass, payload mass, engine power…

It's not just budget cuts.



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 No.1656[Reply]

What do you guys think about Soylent? Have you used it? Do you anticipate any health problems due to regular use?
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 No.2088

>>2087
sorry 2/5s instead of 1/3

 No.2092

It's fucking trash

 No.2112

>>2087
Split hairs all you like, but he said "more or less" so he's clearly full of shit - it can't be more.

>implying a 1/100,000,000 difference that can only happen if there aren't a bunch of people with the same score matters

 No.2114

>>2112
it's an expression dumb ass. Are you serious?

 No.2121

it just doesn't seem right



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 No.2071[Reply]

recently encountered two reasonable arguments against the theory of evolution.

The first was the idea that DNA is simply too complex to have simply occurred. I don't have the biochemistry education to properly understand this,, but I think I can dismiss it as the "god of gaps" argument.

"I don't know" therefore god line of thinking.

The second was more challenging. It acknowledges that natural selection can account for considerable variation within a species, but cannot account for the development of a completely new species.

For example,, Humans have been selectively breeding dogs for centuries and have produced all kinds of different results.. but they remain the same species. They can still interbreed and they still have the same number of chromosomes.

We have been making mutant fruit flies for decades.. generation after generation of fruit flies but they remain fruit flies,, they are different but they remain the same species.

According to this criticism of evolution,, evolution fails to describe a process through which an organism can lose or gain chromosomes and change it's DNA to become a new species.

Anyone have something to counter this criticism?
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 No.2078

>>2071
>DNA is simply too complex to have simply occurred
There's now literal piles of papers reporting experiments where nucleic acids were created abiogenically.

Also
>DNA first
>not RNA
Get with the times, grandpa.

>natural selection can account for considerable variation within a species, but cannot account for the development of a completely new species.

Already observed several times: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

Generally talk.origins is an excellent resource for raping any sort of creationfaggotry.

 No.2080

>>2071

>recently encountered two reasonable arguments against the theory of evolution.


No, you recently encountered two arguments against the theory of evolution (which one, btw?) that *YOU* found reasonable.

However, you found them reasonable because you don't currently have the ability to evaluate them.

Follow up on the information in >>2078 for a start.

 No.2096

>>2071
>DNA is simply too complex to have simply occurred
DNA itself could have evolved from much simpler self replicating molecules.
We don't know exactly how and we likely will never know since it's not like there are fossils left to observe.

That's why we're sending probes in space. If this process happened on Earth it could have happened elsewhere. We might find different kinds of replicators (or fossils) which could teach us about how our own DNA came about.


> for decades..

It takes more than decades. For actual specification to occur it might take millennia.

 No.2111

>>2071
>The first was the idea that DNA is simply too complex to have simply occurred.
given enough time across the entire universe, the chance for life developing at least somewhere rises exponentially
>The second was more challenging. It acknowledges that natural selection can account for considerable variation within a species, but cannot account for the development of a completely new species.
this is just wrong. A "species" is something that we've defined, but really a new species is just a collection of enough of those tiny, tiny changes over the years to the point where it causes a breeding incompatability and thus a genetic shift

 No.2117

>>2071
To answer your question directly, look up 'allopatric speciation'. That's one of the simpler ways that speciation can occur.

Unfortunately have a badly flawed school boy understanding of evolution. Asking these kinds of questions is like criticising calculus, when you don't even know how to multiply.

You can do a full on degree on the processes involved in evolution. It's a fantastically complex subject. Many variables, huge timescales. We understand the basics of genetics, but we are still making huge discoveries in that subject.

That basic concept of natural selection is regarded as a certainty, it's also the easy to explain bit of evolution. The rest is a complex and diverse subject.



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 No.2083[Reply]

Damn shame that /sci/ appears to be a pretty slow board. Sorry to shit this board up with a single question, but does /sci/ have an official torrent? /k/ has the mega folder and /g/ has the /g/entoomen library. Does /sci/ have anything similar?

 No.2113

I'm not sure about torrents but if you are looking for recommendations the /sci/ wiki has stuff.
http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki
I think it also may have download links but I'm not sure.



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 No.2076[Reply]

More spacex fun times!

CRS-6's static fire test will be Saturday, and if all goes well, launch will be Monday.

This will be the second time SpaceX will try to land the first stage on the drone ship (well kind of third but last one was cancelled due to weather).

Pic somewhat related; they're also testing the tanks on the in-flight Dragon 2 abort first stage.
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 No.2105

STAGE ! LANDING BURN STARTED!!!!!1

 No.2106

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Dragon deploy

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Coverage over.

Now we wait.

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Dumping screenshots from launch

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 No.2084[Reply]

Okay /sci/, please help a first year engineering student understand stress and strain in beams. We're covering Euler-Bernoulli beam theory, and they (the lecturers) have stated that curvature is the rate of change of the slope of a beam in deformation. That I understand. I understand how curvature can be related to the radius of a circle, given that we assume the deformation to be in that shape (i.e.: a minimal deformation).

We arrive at
Stress = Modulus X Strain = Modulus X Curvature X Distance from the neutral axis
(Picture 1)

Then this comes up:
>The force acting on the cross-sectional area is equal to the integral of the stress on the cross-sectional area (Picture 2)
I don't understand how they got to that. Can anyone explain?

 No.2085

>>2084
Specifically, why integrate?



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 No.2063[Reply]

Guys, I am a Computer Sciences undergrad in Brazil, but there's a problem. I SUCK at math, complete disaster, and I want to become a very good computer scientist/mathematician.
Any tips on how to get started?

 No.2065

KhanAcademy m8.

 No.2066

>>2065
Secondeded this



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 No.1941[Reply]

Hello /scI/, this is maybe too speculative for this board but maybe some (bio)chemfags can answer some questions.

So, one of my teachers once said that there are probably no silicon humans because their sex would take as long as the universe is old.

The question is, is it maybe possible for silicon based life to exist, in a solar system with planets that have a hotter sun and more pressure, to keep komplex molecules stable?

Are there people who run experiments on hypothtical reactions that could be part of a primitive silicon metabolism?

Can silicon even build complex molecules that resemble proteins?
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 No.2023

>>2014

Isn't phosphorus required, too?

 No.2039

>>2023
It is, but not as a main constituent.

 No.2050

>>2023
I was mainly going off the elements required in RNA and fuel sources like fats and sugars. On closer review of RNA I remembered that it has phosphate groups on parts of it.

I'm going off RNA and not DNA as RNA may be more primitive.

 No.2051

Why is it that phosphorus is required for RNA?

 No.2064

>>2051

Arsenate-based nucleic acids are just less stable in water than phosphate-based ones. According to Wikipedia at least.



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 No.2060[Reply]

i would like /sci/ opinion of this please.

 No.2061

>>2060
A Y Y L M A O
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A
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>>>/x/
>mind projection
I fuckin lost it



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 No.2010[Reply]

I wish my ichthyology class had covered sharks more (freshwater pleb here), but I'm having a hell of a time looking this up. Anyone have any idea what the function of this anatomical feature is?

It doesn't appear to be a synapomorphy of any one shark clade, and so many sharks have it that I'd be hesitant to assume it's just a vestigial artifact of development.

 No.2053

You're thinking too hard about it.
It probably serves a very small purpose in balance while swimming. Maybe it can decide to swish its tail just a tiny bit right there to steady it before a strong forward movement. Remember how strong its tail is and how the shark's movement as a whole responds to even a little bit of movement.

Maybe formed from an inverted hip-like formation.

 No.2054

>>2053
That doesn't seem likely to. The dorsal lobe of the caudal fin in sharks is already usually larger than the ventral lobe to provide lift as they move it side to side–because sharks don't have swim bladders to keep their buoyancy completely neutral. Are you saying the little notch somehow helps keeps the fine oriented in a vertical position?

 No.2055

>>2054
*to me.



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