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Oh, hey. We're actually having old posts pruned now.

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 No.2040[Reply]

How do we increase the traffic to this board?
Back before we left I was used to /sci/ being slower than the other boards , but it was still moderately paced?
Do we shill this board elsewhere on 8 to attract new posters or is there something else we can do?
Like the tea party that /am/ had a while back?

 No.2045

Keep an advertising thread bumped on /boards/
mention this place on relevant threads in other boards
tea party is not a bad idea

 No.2049

Post the board link on #8chan channel @ irc.rizon.net



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 No.2046[Reply]

No one wanted to believe… Believe they even existed.

 No.2047

You're like several hours late anon.



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 No.2037[Reply]

Why is it that some people are anorexic?

 No.2041

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thanks mrs skeltal



 No.2029[Reply]

www.google.com/patents/US8796023

 No.2030


 No.2031

>>2029
Basically peptides that have the ability to self-assemble. According to the patent you can use it to create nanowires or deliver drugs.

The clinical applications would be immense if this shit works. For instance, if you combine this with silicon chips, you have the ability to utilise electro-stimuli to enhance human ability. A nice, improved pacemaker would be one potential invention derived from this.

But yeah, mainly the paper details how their peptides self-assemble to form matrices and wires. Pretty neat stuff.

Correct me if I'm wrong though. Biofag here with some phy/chem background.

 No.2032

>>2031
the reality of this is that they are going to use it as a nanovirus on the goyim due to the ability to inject dna with it, I have a few relevant patents if you believe me and want to go further

 No.2033

>>2032
I might be extremely naive here but how is that not awesome? Having a robot that constantly repairs you and takes care of your disease. One drawback I could think of atm is people becoming more reckless as a result.

 No.2034

>>2033
everyone you have ever known and loved have this in their bodies already, and it could kill them in less than a year



 No.2027[Reply]

I don't know if it's been discussed here before, and I didn't see it in the catalog (apologies if I missed it), but I recently came across a site that may be interesting to /sci/ : Gerard 't Hooft's page "How to become a
GOOD Theoretical Physicist."

He has outlined the prerequisite knowledge to study theoretical physics through an advanced level and has provided links to (mostly freely-available) resources on the web for those prerequisites.

What I'm actually wondering is whether /sci/ is aware of anything similar for advanced mathematics? Essentially, whether there is a resource similar to 't Hooft's, with an expert ('t Hooft is a Nobel Laureate) providing a kind of intellectual roadmap to advanced study in mathematics, ideally with suggested resources or works.

 No.2028




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 No.2020[Reply]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days
http://flavorwire.com/510868/did-thomas-pynchon-predict-parallel-universes-mini-black-holes-and-the-death-of-the-big-bang-theory
And the earliest available paper on the subject (December 25th, 2014):
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1406.1980v2.pdf

Hadn't heard of this thing until two days ago.

How does a paper go from an arxiv post by a bunch of muslims in Egypt and India to a test at CERN in under 3 months?

Also, the really terrifying bit from the paper:

> It may be noted that we have not discussed the effect on Hawking radiation from the existence of minimum length. It is both important and interesting to understand what happens to Hawking radiation.


Considering Hawking Radiation is the only way by which a black hole might dissentigrate and not kill all life on Earth - isn't that something we should answer before trying to test it?

What's your take, /sci/? Real, April Fool's joke or Muslim terror plot to destroy all the infedels and ascend to Allah?

 No.2021

>>2020
Also, since I forgot to mention it in the OP - a positive test for the theory would require producing a black hole.

 No.2022

>thought I was on /wx/
Spoiler that shit, faggot.



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 No.2003[Reply]

What organ and process do earthworms use to produce red blood cells? Do they have differentiation of stem cells to create blood cells?
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 No.2007

Without a place to passively store stem cells like bones, I would imagine the blood cells simply divide to multiply. Remember that mammalian blood cells that are anucleated are more like an exception to the rule. Other vertebrates have nuclei but they're deactivated. Perhaps annelids simply have fully activated nuclei in their erythrocytes and thus no need to regenerate them from stem cells.

 No.2009

>>2007
> Remember that mammalian blood cells that are anucleated are more like an exception to the rule. Other vertebrates have nuclei but they're deactivated.
did not know.

I suggest with something like an earthworm we might want to ask a broader question: "How is oxygen delivered to the internal tissues?"

 No.2011

>>2009

uhh… a circulatory system?

 No.2017

>>2011
Of some sort sure, but we cant assume it's RBCs as we know them.

 No.2019

>>2017

Finally made me look this up. It turns out they don't have red blood cells at all; they have free hemoglobin complexes that just go about.

http://cronodon.com/BioTech/Earthworm_circulation.html

Also it turns out they have only one dorsal blood vessel. Somehow I always thought I saw two when examining an earthworm in person.



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 No.2013[Reply]

Question about Heisenberg's uncertainty principle whereby the momentum and position of a particle cannot both be measured precisely and also that a particle cannot be measured to be in a stable state (because then it'd be measured to have both a fixed momentum and position).

Is it that the location and momentum of particles is intrinsically random or is that any possible measurement of the location and momentum of particles is random?

As far as I can tell the two cases aren't really distinguishable because one can never find a particle that is in complete isolation (effects like the gravity and the electroweak force fall off to very small degrees after a while but they still exist even at very large distances they are just very small) so I think in every case observable in our universe the resulting randomness stays the same. I am not sure how this would affect the cosmological constant and the expansion of space though.

 No.2018

>Is it that the location and momentum of particles is intrinsically random or is that any possible measurement of the location and momentum of particles is random?
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't sound like your question has anything to do with the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

It seems that you're just asking about how measurements of quantum states randomly select eigenvalues. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle merely builds on top of that and gives a limit to, you could say, "how random" two (non-commuting) observables are after measurement.

If that's the case, then I think the answer to your question is merely that we don't really know. What you've said sounds sort of similar to "quantum decoherence" though, which says that if you could build the full quantum state of your system + environment, then the "wavefunction collapse" as we know it, would merely be a predictable part of the evolution of the global state.

I'm not an expert or anything, so I don't know how seriously physicists take the above idea. But as far as I know the real answer is still that we just don't know exactly how the universe selects eigenvalues.
It's a very important question though, you can find tons of different ideas people have postulated over the years, but be careful what you read, beacuse this is one area of physics where a whole lot of shit is stated as fact on the internet when really it's just pure speculation or flat out crackpotery



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 No.2015[Reply]

So why are there no realistically proportioned molecular model sets?

And why is everything limited to such a small subset of the elements?

 No.2016

>And why is everything limited to such a small subset of the elements?
Well for one thing because chemical bonding is a bit more complicated than the ideal of elements simply following their valence numbers.



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 No.2012[Reply]

Guys. Hi. Guys.
Well, I'm trying to develop a matlab routine wich computes the liquid vapor equilibria of a multicomponent solution.
It's based on Antoines correlation for saturation pressure and in the Raoult's Law.
Problem is that i don't have anything to test it, so I'd be gratefull if you can provide experimental data of a solution of known Antoine constants for me to prepare the routine and contrast them.

Thanks beforehand.


 No.2005[Reply]

 No.2008

Fuck yes.



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 No.1992[Reply]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I've been trying to properly understand relativity and what I don't get is, if all velocity is relative (which it is), where is the kinetic energy? Are kinetic energy levels relative too? How does that work? Where is it 'stored'? Surely energy is an absolute?

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 No.1994

>Surely energy is an absolute?
nope, it's relative. But it's not due to any weird relativistic effects, it's merely due to how we define reference frames. Once you say any observer is justified in saying they are at rest and things are moving around them then you automatically see that energy is relative. Just imagine sitting in a bullet train, to you it is at rest, but to people outside the train it has tremendous energy.

Also, it doesn't break any conservation laws. Conservation of energy and momentum still apply in every frame of reference. All this means is you can't mix energy and momentum values from different reference frames and expect to see conservation.
(also kinetic energy isn't always conserved anyway, inelastic collisions for example)

 No.1995

>>1994
So if I take something with kinetic energy and convert that energy to another form, what's happening there? Is GPE relative? Is mass relative? If so, where is the reference frame for mass?

 No.2000

>>1995
>So if I take something with kinetic energy and convert that energy to another form, what's happening there?
I'm not really sure what sort of answer you are looking for. Energy changing forms is something everyone is familiar with in everyday experience. Fire causing heat is energy changing form. Ever touch a wire that has gotten hot, that's also energy changing form.
Total energy is conserved (or in relativity you have conservation of mass and energy), kinetic energy is just one form of energy.

>Is GPE relative? Is mass relative? If so, where is the reference frame for mass?

Yes. Although the existence of relativistic mass is somewhat debatable, since it appears in the equation for relativistic momentum, some people want to think of it as the mass that is relative, others just want to say the momentum is relative.
It doesn't really matter anyway since usually we just use "rest mass" which is the mass the object has in its rest frame.

 No.2006

>>1995
(Rest) mass is absolute:

m^2 c^4 = E^2 - p^2 c^2

m is (rest) mass, c is the speed of light, E is energy, p is momentum.

If you want to convert kinetic energy into another form, you need to preserve momentum too. This means you have to cancel it out using an opposite momentum. If you switch reference frames, that other particle changes kinetic energy too, so that it all works out.

>>1992
>>1994
Actually, general relativity doesn't preserve energy. The cosmological constant, a.k.a. energy of the vacuum, can create energy out of the wholecloth in a way that enforces itself exponentially^1 . Also, radiation (and fast-moving particles) lose energy as the underlying spacetime expands.

[1] However, this energy is always at maximum entropy and thus you can't do work. Unless inflation is correct, but that's another story.



 No.1990[Reply]

I am a Computer science major, and a self taught welder and Blacksmith. My uncle had Polio when he was young but despite being a bit shorter, he has been able to walk around okay for most of his life. Recently he broke his leg and the doctors say he wont be able to walk again, and may need a wheel chair eventually. He is on Crutches now, but he can still stand without much truble.

I was wondering how feasible it would be to build something along the lines of this, (http://www.gizmag.com/go/2594/) I feel like it would just be a great project for me to work on for my own benefit and prectice, but more then that I would have the chance to improve the quality of life for my uncle without skipping a year of college to pay for it.

 No.1996

It could be done but would take a huge amount of R&D and even then it would have a very limited battery life. Honestly I think the amount of testing required for the sensors that actuate the motors would be prohibitive.
Keep in mind I haven't researched this topic and it may turn out to have a simple solution if you read some papers by people working on it.



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 No.1971[Reply]

Anons, give me a rundown of the basics/idea behind quantum physics.

 No.1972

Discrete Packets

Wavefunction

Indeterminacy

 No.1982

The basic idea behind quantum physics is that it just fucking works.
ultimately everything in physics needs to tie into observations in some way. We were just always lucky in the past (before quantum physics) in that those observations made intuitive sense and so the theories could be made to make sense too.
But quantum physics is now the result of us becoming more and more aware of very unintuitive behavior the universe has under certain conditions. So our mathematical descriptions and theories for those observations are also unintuitive.

It's like you're playing a game in which you try to guess under which cup you're going to find a ball. Every time you play it's in a different spot, so you start recording data and figure out a pattern to help you predict where it's going to be. Your algorithm always works and that's all you know, you still have no idea why or how (or who?) is deciding to follow that pattern.

That's basically what QM is as far as I know. Of course if I've said anything inaccurate I welcome all corrections



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 No.1912[Reply]

This post is a test of pattern recognition.
Below is a number of Haikus with an increasing number of letters, spaces and punctuation displaced by an X.
Post a corrected version of the last one you can read.
A link to the original text is below.
An old siXent pond.X.
A frog jXmps into Xhe pond,
sXlash! SilXnce againX

Autumn mXonlight—
X worm digsXsilently
Xnto the Xhestnut.

LightniXg flashX
what I Xhought Xere facXs
are plXmes of Xampas gXass.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1924

trusting the buddha, good and bad, I bid farewell to the departing year.

 No.1975

>>1924
Same as this anon ^ but I can read half of the next line, "Everything a …..". hmmmmm…

 No.1980

>EXeXyXhXnX X XoXcX
Everything I touch
>XiXhXtXnXeXnXsX,XaXaX,X
_____
>XrXcXsXlXkX X XrXmXlX.
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