No.1406
So why exactly is separatism "evil?"
No.1407
>neimoidians
>neigoidians
jews did it again
No.1409
>>1406because the Jedi should be allowed to rule the galaxy and tell everyone what to do.
No.1410
Lucas never made a good case for why the Separatists are bad.
All he did was make Dooku a Sith and those other guys want to kill Padme, that was his way of explaining why Separatism is evil.
CIS did nothing wrong.
No.1412
the CIS was pretty obviously a corrupt oligarchy. Its members weren't states, they were corporations. It would be like if Sony, Exxon, and Apple all declared war on America and started bombing citizens and murdering civilians.
No.1413
>>1412Pretty much this. Its like people who try to sympathize with the empire despite its clearly xenophobic political views and its widespread use of slaves.
No.1418
No.1419
>>1418Fuck off! /pol aint got shit on the glorious Galactic Empire! Hail the Empire!
No.1422
>>1413>xenophobic political viewsThat's EU stuff.
Palpatine had no issue with aliens, he was trained by an alien and his apprentice was an alien. His evil advisers in the prequels were aliens too.
No.1424
The only bad thing the separatists ever did was be bunch of morons who let themselves get controlled by Sheev and his greater machinations. If they really were their own independently functioning rebel confederacy, the Separatists would be the ultimate good guys of the whole saga. Capable of preventing the rise of the Empire, even.
>>1422But, isn't Plagueis being a Muun "EU stuff" to begin with?
Maybe Palpatine secretly harbored xenophobic views against him since every Sith hates their master (and everyone else in the galaxy) at least a little.
No.1428
>>1424Hail the EU Empire.
Anyway yeah, the CIS were a bunch of idiots especially in the Clone Wars cartoons where they made Dooku stereotypically evil among other things. I still remember that dumb senator who tried defending Dooku despite all his atrocities and that lame ass CIS democratic council were even bigger saps than the Republic council under Sheev.
No.1431
>>1422>EU>anything but the real Star WarsDisney Internet Defense Force please
No.1432
>>1424>Plagueis being a Muun "EU stuff" to begin with?That came from Lucas iirc.
He told the EU writer what Plagueis was about.
>>1431The EU only had the OT to go on so it contradicts the PT.
No.1433
>>1432>A panel on continuity at the Celebration IV convention revealed that his identity as a Muun had originally come from George Lucashttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis No.1439
>>1407Nemoidians are asians.
Watto is the Jew.
No.1608
>people actually think Dooku was a villain
>falling for propaganda this hard
No.1610
>>1608I used to think the same way then I watched Clone Wars
No.1626
>>1608You poor ignorant fool. It seems you are not aware that Lucas and TCW turned Dooku into a full blown monster with goals and motivations that no longer made sense. They reduced his character from being a noble willing to do anything to stop the corruption in the republic to the emperor's mindless errand boy.
No.1627
>>1626>They reduced his character from being a noble willing to do anything to stop the corruption in the republic to the emperor's mindless errand boy.I'd say Episode III did that or the "twist" at the end of Episode II.
No.1694
>>1406>CIS did nothing wrongExcept for being a giant false flag by Palpatine to bring about massive governmental centralization in the form of the Galactic Empire.
No.1695
>>1694>Except for being a giant false flag by Palpatine to bring about massive governmental centralization in the form of the Galactic Empire.^This. So much this.
No.1726
Even if the Separatists were "good guys" the Republic wouldn't want to let them go.
That would make for a far more interesting prequel story.
No.1826
Wait, just to get this straight; when you say "EU" do you mean "European Union" or "Expanded Universe"?
No.1836
>>1412Except it's the Confederacy of Independent Systems. The megacorps control parliament, but the systems (star systems) run themselves as individuals. Think of it as a "states rights" sort of thing. The megacorps control and maintain the infrastructure and all encompassing military by collecting taxes, while each state maintains and funds it's own "militia", specific to that system.
No.1837
>>1412>>1836>>1412Unfortunately though, Lucas is a fucking retard and went for the good guys/ bad guys black/white approach. So all this stuff i've said is mostly just considered part of "legends" which means "not canon anymore because fuck you".
No.1839
>>1837And remember that terrible awful episode from the Clone Wars where they go to the CIS capital planet? That shit really was the final stab at the canon. Still not a major buzzkiller as what they did to Mandalor and Jango.
No.1842
>>1839Also the incompetent CIS council and senators that replaced the council from the movies. TCW not only failed to maintain canon with the EU but even with the movies themselves. Damn it Lucas.
No.2403
>>1695>>1694I feel Palpatine's plan was good with either side winning the war, he had more or less full control of both sides. The only thing that would change should the CIS have won is the military might of the Galactic Empire would be build on droids instead of clones.
No.4217
>>1406
pretty much this >>1412
Separatism is very fine, but the Trade Federation/Confederation of Independant Systems were just a bunch of cowardly space warmongers
plus their political leaders were just so shit, order 66 was worth killing the jedi to end the travesty of the CIS