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No.1794
General consensus these days seems to be that Episode II is the worst Star Wars movie.
Any thoughts on that?
No.1797
couldn't agree more with that. and i actually don't mind the prequels, really i think episode 2 has the better story, it's just mauled by a puddled romance and hammy acting.
No.1798
>>1794I watch i and enjoy it, but I wind up skipping basically every scene with Anakin involved.
No.1800
>>1794We finally get to see some Mandalorian Armor in action, there's the introduction of some cool characters, and the fight scenes look tremendous. That being said, pretty much everything else feels like a cringeworthy fan film
No.1802
It was one of the first movies shot digitally and it really shows, the movie doesn't look filmic.
The CG has also aged badly and Lucas made a huge mistake by making the Clone Troopers fully CGI.
No.1803
>>1794The fill does a poor job at establishing the antagonist.
The antagonist is the most important part of a story because it is he (or she) that gets the ball rolling. Without the antagonist the hero has no reason to act.
Darth Maul was poorly written and poorly executed (and executed he was :P), he died in the first fight and didn't interact with the other characters so his impact on the story was very small.
>>1802It looked like a video game, I guess that's why my young self loved it (well, the battles at least, the rest of the movie was always such a drag).
No.1804
>>1800>We finally get to see some Mandalorian Armor in action, there's the introduction of some cool charactersJango really just should have been Boba Fett, there was no need for the Clone thing at all. I could accept him being an old man by the time of the OT.
Zam Wessel was also fucked up character wise, instead of just being a human she was a shapeshifter that never used her power for some reason.
No.1805
>>1803>poor job at establishing the antagonist.I think Lucas wanted the twist and the mystery to be a big part of the story but it totally falls apart when all the merchandising advertised Dooku as a villain.
He could have done something far more interesting with the Dooku character but I suppose he wanted to make it simple to understand for the kid audience.
No.1807
>>1805>kid audienceStar wars isn't a kid's movie.
I mean it features;
>beheading - Anakin kills Dooku>child slaughter - Anakin kills a bunch of kids>genocide - twice in fact, once by Anakin (against the sand people) and once by Palpatine against the Jedi>People getting killed painfully - the bounty hunter who gets shot by the poison dartThe movie is too dark to be intended for kids.
No.1808
>>1807Lucas says it is but I think that's just a cop out, he doesn't want people to be too critical of his movies. They're general audience movies.
No.1809
>>1808Isn't there an organization like the ESRB but for movies?
Wouldn't they have the last word regarding whatever the movie is appropriate for child audience or not?
No.1810
>>1809The MPAA.
It's rated PG.
No.1811
>>1804I never had an issue with Jango…
No.1813
>>1804>I could accept him being an old man by the time of the OT.Would he even be old though?
Luke was born in the third film and plays a young adult (18-22 year old) throughout the movies.
The bounty hunter (don't know who is the OT or prequels version) could have been 25 in Attack of the Clones and been around 40 in the OT.
No.1815
>>1809lucas himself has said that star wars is a general audience film, but he himself wouldn't take anyone under the range of 8-10 to see revenge of the sith since 90% of the movie is death
>>1811jango was the best part of aotc, i'm not even mad about the clones part since it's already known that by the time of the empire hardly any clones were left and that they recruited out the ass while cloning top recruits>>1813easiest thing to do is go by the actor's age. boba's case is a little different since jeremy bulloch didn't provide the voice but he was somewhere around 40 during esb
No.1818
>>1815>boba's case is a little different since jeremy bulloch didn't provide the voice but he was somewhere around 40 during esbSo he could, pretty easily, have been the same guy through the movies?
No.1819
>>1813>The bounty hunter (don't know who is the OT or prequels version) could have been 25 in Attack of the Clones and been around 40 in the OT.Well Lucas kinda fucked up the timeline, look how much Obi Wan and Anakin age between ROTS and ROTJ.
No.1822
>>1818yeah
apparently daniel logan was 14/15 when aotc was filmed/released, so if boba were to be that age, 20-23 years down the line when esb happens boba should be about 35-38, which jeremy bulloch was.
lucas, you fucking genius you.
No.1823
>>1822No, no. I mean that Boba fett and Jango are the same person (not that one of them is a clone of the other).
Since the jump in time between the second movie and the sixth movie is so short he could have been old enough to be a bounty hunter in aotc but young enough to still be active in return of the jedi.
(I'm not really the most knowledgable in star wars so I don't know which movies Jango/Boba are in.)
>>1819Which was always weird because when I was younger I thought that there was a ~40 year gap between the third and fourth movie but the gap is around 20 since Luke is a young adult
> look how much Obi Wan and Anakin age between ROTS and ROTJ.Yeah, Obi gets like 40-50 years older and Vader gets like 50-60 years.
No.1824
I have a soft spot for this movie since it's the movie that got me into Star Wars. I was in 4th grade and I was hooked
No.1825
>>1823oh
well, he'd be old as fuck in empire then
also i'm pretty sure obi-wan would have to be somewhere around 40 by the end of rots, but that would still make anakin 25 at the absolute oldest.
No.1827
>>1807>Star wars isn't a kid's movieLook man I love Star Wars to death but it has always been intended as a family friendly movie. Maybe not like 4 years old, but it's a child friendly way to approach the issues you mentioned.
No.1828
Anyone seen the Bluray version and how Lucas recut the ending?
It's terrible.
No.1831
>>1828aotc br has a different ending? what are the differences exactly?
No.1832
No.1889
>>1807Don't forget:
>space politics >implied rape (anakin's mother) >decapitation (twice) >multiple cases of dismemberment >anakin burning alive No.1892
>>1807It's not like barney-age kids media, but it's definitely made with the 10-14 age group in mind.
No.1902
>>1889> >implied rape (anakin's mother)I never really saw it that way but since the scene is based on The Searchers it's very possible.
No.4245
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Chris Stuckmann did a review recently.
No.4257
As far as maturity is concerned the prequels had horrible amounts of cognitive dissonance in them. RedLetterMedia pointed this out in their Revenge of the Sith review, the tone shifted all over the place, having scenes that looked like they were intended for children, were comedic, and then graphically violent and implied R-rated subject matter.
No.4258
I like the pod race scene in Phantom. I love the engine noises, the tumbling and exploding pods and the sand people taking shots at the racers.
And I loved the speech by Obi-wan after he cuts off Ani's legs in Revenge of the Sith. I tear up every time Kenobi says, 'You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!', but only when thinking in the context of their relationship as told to Luke in A New Hope. Their relationship in the prequels doesn't come across as friendly or brotherly at all.
Attack of the Clones has nothing memorable in it.
No.4273
>>4258
>Their relationship in the prequels doesn't come across as friendly or brotherly at all.
This is something the EU material, and the Clone Wars show really help with.
No.4586
>>1794
I just watched the prequals again recently. I felt that….episode 2 just had MORE stuff going on than the others.
I completely hate the pod racing in episode 1, so that's half the movie gone. and episode 3 is 40% romantic jibber jabber between padme and anakin. So….I dunno, episode 2 seems alot more attractive to me now.
No.4588
>>4586
interesting that you say that about RotS, I see Attack of the Clones as more romantic jibber jabber
No.4589
>>4257
>the tone shifted all over the place, having scenes that looked like they were intended for children, were comedic, and then graphically violent and implied R-rated subject matter.
ROTJ did this too so it wasn't a new thing.
Even some of the dialogue in ESB like "nerf herder" or just C3PO in general.
No.4601
>>1797
>>1797
>>1797
this
attack of the clones has the best overall story of the prequels, just if the anakin/padme scenes were done better it would be an honest to god 8/10
No.4603
>>4586
>episode 3 is 40% romantic jibber jabber between padme and anakin
I thought it was the other way around. 2 being the romantic bullcrap and 3 having the most action.
No.4624
No.4688
I did like The Obi Wan's detective part of the story, but Anakin/Padme romance side of it was just fucking awful. It was boring, abysmally acted, and the less said about the dialogue quality, the better.
No.4692
>>4688
>abysmally acted, and the less said about the dialogue quality, the better.
but George said it was intentionally bad.
No.4793
>>1794
Only thing good about it was Jango and the clones. Everything else was a clusterfuck of shit. Hell, I "enjoyed" Episode I and Crystal Star more than this shit.