Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:06:01 0306e8 No. 10119
>good looking game >large open world >densely populated interiors >various engine properties >people are surprised it's 50GBs to install
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:08:30 b7da1a No. 10121
It probably draws on the fact that a lot of new releases take up a lot of space, but when the pirate version rolls around it shaves off around 15 gigabytes.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:11:19 0306e8 No. 10123
>>10121 I'll likely pick it up. I enjoy the titles and I'm curious to see if Rocksteady has learned anything about PC optimization in recent years. I'm rocking dual Titans and I still get laughable 4K performance on Arkham City. Arkham Origins, on the other hand, runs pretty damn well, surprisingly.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:18:26 b7da1a No. 10129
>>10123 Origins wasn't made by Rocksteady, so we've yet to see. I'm getting my PC now and if I do get the game that will be the platform I play it on, interested to see if there is good optimization or not.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:27:25 39bc52 No. 10132
gameplay > graffix
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:30:50 7a7037 No. 10136
I'm looking forward to this game.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:31:36 b3d29b No. 10137
>>10121 I'll play it but I kind of agree.
I think the biggest issue is a) not introducing much new to combat in each installment and b) using up pretty much every villain in the first two games.
They should have held onto a few like Bane for the final game. No wonder they had to invent a new villain.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:35:31 013eff No. 10140
Bin it
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:49:19 955cf9 No. 10147
>>10119 With all that chromatic aberration shit they have going on you could easily compress all assets down to 5GBs and nobody would notice the difference
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:50:12 b7da1a No. 10149
>>10137 They do show a couple interesting new combat mechanics like being able to make more use of a thug's weapons, and no doubt new gadgets. But things like the fear takedowns and such make me think it's been more casualized than it already was.
I'm cautiously pessimistic about this title. No doubt we'll see a more extensive look at E3, so they still have a chance to captivate me.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:55:25 0306e8 No. 10151
>>10132 >gameply > graffix The mark of a fucking peasant. Elevating one over the other when you could just as easily clamour both for an overwhelming experience.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 00:59:01 39bc52 No. 10153
>>10151 No, the mark of a fucking peasant is being attracted to shiny objects with no functionality. If you want graffix, you can go watch a movie like a casual. The general stagnation of games thanks to casuals is the false belief that graffix matters so much, so consoles are so desparately pushing 1080p over fluid screens. Video games aren't for you if you don't value gameplay above all. The rest help make a good game better, but muh shiny graffix will never save shit gameplay, when the opposite can happen.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:07:15 0306e8 No. 10157
>>10153 It's stagnation could also be attributed to faggots who don't understand mass market appeal, don't understand that the first bite the mind takes is from the eyes and damn every little thing they see without cause, before having even touched a product.
>Something looks visually appealing, "Ugh, I bet the gameplay is shit." >Something looks visually unappealing, "Ugh, that looks like shit." >Something is Dark Souls, "GOTY." This, while knowing full well that the overwhelming majority of people who actually play games don't give two grinding fucks about Soulsfaggotry. But god forbid anyone enjoy Mass Effect or Dragon Age before the overwhelming cry of nonsensical shit from esteemed boards such as this.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:11:07 39bc52 No. 10158
>>10157 mass market appeal is for casuals such as yourself who aren't meant to understand video games and need pretty pictures to make decisions for them.
Much like Skyrim, a game that looks great modded, and is still an absolute waste of money because good graffix will NEVER redeem shitty gameplay.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:16:47 0306e8 No. 10161
>>10158 >The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Global Sales: 18.11m >Batman: Arkham Series Global Sales: 23.34m >Demon's/Dark Souls Series Global Sales: about 7m Yeah, I guess all that graffix is why Skyrim is crushing Souls sales, then.
Source:
http://www.vgchartz.com/
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:17:08 39bc52 No. 10163
Not that batman has bad gameplay, it's a very fun, stylistic game in how you get to play as batman to take out enemies with elaborate combos. But it would be much better to spend the time and effort improving the gameplay that exists (making it more challenging and complex for one) instead of 50GB of most likely graffix. City already looked good and wasn't this big, it's just polishing a doorknob at this point.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:18:29 39bc52 No. 10164
>>10161 >implying sales have anything to do with the quality of the game That's a fantastic strawman, and you really have a weird fascination with the souls games.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:20:45 0306e8 No. 10165
>>10163 See, you say that, but as much as I enjoyed Arkham City, I didn't take a bunch of issues with the system and the gameplay. I thought newer things could be added, some better challenges, but I got a solid gameplay experience out of it.
Visually though, and speaking to performance, that game had fucking problems. PhysX was a nightmare, AMD systems would get screwed out of some optimizations they made for NVIDIA, textures decided not to load when they were busy blowing the Joker, crazy visual artifacting during random moments, floors twitching in and out of existence. These are graphical and performance issues that hamper otherwise great gameplay. I'd like that shit fixed.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:22:18 0306e8 No. 10168
>>10164 >implying "quality" can be physically measured by anything other than sales and public acclaim. Fantastic [insert fallacy here] you've got going there.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:22:49 39bc52 No. 10169
>>10165 I don't have any problems playing a good game if it looks bad because I'm not a peasant who is swayed by shiny objects. Sorry you're going to miss out on so many great games like Thief and Mount&Blade though.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:24:10 0306e8 No. 10171
>>10169 >post about graphical and performance issues hampering gameplay >"peasant who is swayed by shiny objects." How long have you been autistic?
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:24:25 39bc52 No. 10172
>>10168 You shouldn't talk about fallacies when you make them so easily yourself.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon I guess Dragon Age Inquisition really was the best game released last year, right?
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:28:57 0306e8 No. 10173
>>10172 "Best" in what context? It was the best Dragon Age game released last year. Did it sell the most? Because in that context, were in a head of EA, I'd be inclined to say "We had the best release of 2014". That only matters in relevance to EA. Personally? South Park: The Stick of Truth was my "best" game. But there's no measure other than monetary success and public acclaim for a fair definition of "best" in such a broad context.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:30:11 39bc52 No. 10175
>>10173 Justin Bieber must be a modern mozart according to your logic then.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:31:31 0306e8 No. 10176
>>10175 Well that's an [insert fallacy here], but okay, let's judge two completely different art forms by the same standards.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:32:11 39bc52 No. 10177
>>10176 You're right, appealing to ad populum
is a fallacy, I'm glad you have become self aware.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:39:02 0306e8 No. 10178
>>10177 Holy shit, you're an idiot. Furthermore, you're asking the wrong question. Are you asking if Justin Bieber is "best"? Because I have stated more than enough that "best" is quite subjective. Are you asking if he is a success? Because that is actually provable, based on success category.
>Did he appeal to a large audience? Yes. >Did he make a ton of money for his label? Yes. Pretty successful endeavor. Doesn't regard him as "best" in anything other than personal opinion or in the minds of that label's top brass.
Of the previous games I mentioned, all 3 are successes in their own rights. Dark Souls is a success to FromSoftware, who'd previously struggled with Armored Core and related titles. Skyrim is a success for Bethesda, who made a fuckton of money from the game. Batman was a success for Rocksteady who had the unenviable task of making a good Batman game.
Objectively though, were the 3 companies in question to sit and ask, "From a public, monetary standpoint, who has the best game?" All parties would likely say their respective titles were the best.
Most successful, however, would go to Batman.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 01:53:16 39bc52 No. 10184
>>10178 Where did I say batman made less money? When was I ever talking about how much money the game made? Quality does not stem from popularity.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 02:20:07 ec58af No. 10198
Total play time?, I could care less about graphics.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 02:37:59 b7da1a No. 10212
>>10173 > It was the best Dragon Age game released last year. It was the only dragon age game released last year if I'm not mistaken.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 03:05:05 36a62b No. 10219
>>10173 >It was the best Dragon Age game released last year do you literally work at bioware as a marketing intern
>>10178 >sales and public acclaim are the only ways to judge a video game's quality >sales, which are difficult to find accurately >public acclaim, from a corrupt and nepotistic industry of people who would rather be elsewhere
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 03:57:14 b7da1a No. 10240
I remember when this thread was about Batman.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 04:34:53 0306e8 No. 10254
>>10219 I'm done explaining the difference between "success" and "quality" to you.
>>10240 >This thread is still about ethics in Batman journalism. That said, it was less about Batman and more about the massive sizes of games as they flatten the space of your hard drive to oblivion.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 06:04:50 2f9f2d No. 10293
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 14:49:12 36a62b No. 10387
>>10254 Your entire claim was that financial success and quality were the same thing. Stop moving the goalposts.
Tell me, why does Arkham Whatever need a 50gb filesize when something like The Witcher 2, which looked just as good and had at least as much content, had an 18gb filesize?
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 17:41:13 942322 No. 10427
>>10153 This anon knows what's up, and this one
>>10151 is a massive faggot.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 20:56:17 ce0d2d No. 10512
So is there any credence to the thought that a lot of these filesizes are bloated because of uncompressed sounds and textures? I think they said that the CPUs in consoles can't be arsed to uncompress sound while the game is playing. My only problem is that the USA has third world tier internet while filesizes grow and memory becomes cheaper.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 21:01:10 36a62b No. 10514
>>10512 Yeah, audio is mostly why. I remember reading about that when Titanfall and Wolfenstein launched.
Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 02:11:24 9cb530 No. 10621
Fucking retard, the objects in the world aren't unique, they're copy-pasted. I guarantee you most of that space is taken up by something fucking stupid like uncompressed audio or movies.
Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 05:42:45 0306e8 No. 10720
>>10387 >Your entire claim was that financial success and quality were the same thing. >literally never said that once >>10427 You people are somehow so fucking retarded that you can't comprehend someone wanting both gameplay and visual fidelity to be top notch, not just a single aspect of a whole prodect. Of course this place is full of Soulsfags. You don't actually know any better.
>>10512 I think the problem is that every fucking thing on the disk is uncompressed. These fuckers see Blu-Ray and just go, "Fuck it, why compress when we have this much space to work with?"
Anonymous 04/03/15 (Fri) 05:47:25 547866 No. 10724
I think people are that use to multiplats they forget that things like 4k support take up a shitload of space.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 16:58:02 2f55ef No. 11405
>>10119 >tfw 3Tb of unused space The only problem are shitty ISPs who dominate the market in US. Decent speeds cost a lot for no reason.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 14:17:50 dd7935 No. 13163
>>10153 fucking post of the thread….
no wonder pcfags only care about grafix idort all the way down!
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 14:19:53 dd7935 No. 13164
>>10168 damn, then all the CoD are GOTYOY
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 14:24:38 dd7935 No. 13165
>>10178 then lets face your shitty logic
>bieber makes rock music >beatles made rock music total fans of bieber+money gain against total fans of beatles+money gain
wow, bieber its an actual best rockstar singer than the shitty beatles, good we used your logic anon.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 14:27:47 dd7935 No. 13167
>>10720 >never claimed >>10173 >>10161
Anonymous 05/08/15 (Fri) 15:55:00 81ebf7 No. 16373
>>10119
>people are surprised it's 50GBs to install
People are surprised because these games have very little reason to have such large installation requirements. Wolfenstein: The New Order, a linear (but still great) FPS, needs roughly 50GB. For what? Muh megatextures?
Anonymous 05/09/15 (Sat) 15:25:10 fc4fc3 No. 16457
>>10119
>50gigs
That better not be 50gigs of press X to evade and mash to win to see how The Joker is the villain again.
Anonymous 05/09/15 (Sat) 15:27:57 fc4fc3 No. 16458
>>16373
Are devs still doing uncompressed audio?
Anonymous 05/09/15 (Sat) 19:41:41 660328 No. 16471
>>10121
You have to remember that Origins wasn't made by Rocksteady but Warner Bros. Games.
Anonymous 05/09/15 (Sat) 19:41:59 660328 No. 16472
>>11405
Hope that Google fiber rescues you.