82f749 No.13175
If anyone is willing to help on Martyr Logarius, that'd be greatly appreciated!
I'm on SL Level 53 right now, and it'll be my first time fighting him so please be aware that I may or may not fuck up but I hope I won't!
7b0224 No.13177
>>13175Wear armor that protects against arcane and stay on his ass.
You're going to get rolled, but this will keep you alive longer.
803d67 No.13189
>>13093The Dungeon? not too hard. The Bosses? You're gonna need a fuckton of vials.
74729b No.13281
>>12385can you link that Lovecraft library
c97e53 No.13288
>working my way through the dungeons
>kill bloodletting beast
>can't go to any new dungeon without gathering more materials
what a pain in the ass, i want to like the dungeons more but they really start to dragon on after awhile
7b0224 No.13376
>>13288The dungeon concept is interesting, but everything you do inside the dungeons feels like grinding. The enemies aren't interesting enough to captivate you, and the only thing that keeps you going is the prospect of finding advanced blood gems. I'd rather invade someone or assist with a boss than run through a chalice dungeon.
77a10e No.13485
It's probably way too late, but his attacks do blood damage. I've also heard he can be backstabbed when casting his fuck you buff, so he doesn't get as aggressive later in the fight and he doesn't negate every ranged attack either.
Martyr sucks dick though when he decides to spam his magic all day every day as it can easily kill you and deny you access to getting near him. Once he stops casting like a cunt, then you can get in close for a few hits before he fucks off back into the air again. You can use the terrain (pillars/floor) to eat some of his magic attacks, but beware of the blood ball as it has tracking, can go through objects and can ruin you if you don't run away. Later on, he'll use more melee attacks and stay on the ground longer for possible ripostes if he doesn't have the fuck you buff on.
I would have helped, but I no longer have a character in that level range until I level up my Arc build a bit more. However, I'd rather level up another quality or Blt character than take Arc into a fight with Martyr. What retard decided to completely fuck over mages and then stick the only available early magic gems behind bsb and the forest glitch? The split damage weapons are an arc trap as they scale so much better with a quality build and they can't even be buffed. The elemental buffs are the same for everyone and are static The spells/tools scale for shit against ng+/challice enemies and they aren't even that hot in ng. Points put into str/skl become useless when you go pure arc, so that's a waste too.
Oh well, I just need the chalice trophy for the plat now and then I'm done.
77a10e No.13487
>>13376>>13288I think the dungeons were rushed or were tacked on near the end. It's a pain the ass to co-op in there unless it's a well-known dungeon. If From really wants to put mmo bs in BB, then they could at least give us a lobby to organize dungeon co-op/pvp. It would make multiplayer much easier to organize. Also, hunter npcs are commonly forming groups in-game, so why can't we? It's not like in the other games where the slayer of demons/chosen undead was way too late to the party. There were still plenty of humans to be found upon our arrival into the nightmare and many hunters still roaming around.
5b5d61 No.13530
>>13487I thought the dungeons were in response to other souls games lack of replayability. Obviously they're all good games someone can sink hundreds of hours into, but they lose something once you've memorized enemy positions.
From already attempted to address this with the new enemies placed in ng+ of das2, but it seems maybe they're looking for better single player replayability. Except it seems there's a certain amount of tension created from being weak at the start that still hasn't been addressed.
77a10e No.13557
>>13530In terms of mages. Tossing an arcane or fire gemstone in an early chest would help greatly. It could even be one of those 1.00% gems and it would help mages get started early rather than being gimped dps. The spell issue is kinda iffy though. If the spells are too good for their level then you'll end up with another das where melee builds take the strongest spells for their already strong builds. In my opinion, placing spells into the 50+ range and allowing arcane to scale a bit better past 50 could help mages specialize and be effective without allowing cookie cutters to take their tools.
BB's atmosphere is fantastic and I got my money's worth solo. I just wish they would make it easier to co-op with others. I helped get 20+ people through Father G yesterday and I was helping with BSB and Amelia today. The point being that while the single player is fun, I personally prefer to assist and play with others.
On another note, there's a lot of lore for the dlc, so there's plenty more that they could add or change. I'm sure the game will only get better from here.
I believe that BB is a great game, but that it could be even greater.
77a10e No.13562
I just found out that Laurentius started the Vilebloods. The Amelia cutscene shows Willem addressing him and acknowledging Laurentius' coming betrayal. Willem tells him to then fear the old blood.
Alfred states only during the first time that ask about the Vilebloods that a scholar from Byrn-something betrayed the others and took old blood to cainhurst castle where the vilebloods were born. Eventually Martyr and his executioners make their way there and kill everyone and Martyr stays behind to keep the immortal Queen locked up in an illusion.
29d516 No.13706
>>12688Just came by to say sorry about not working on the sister artwork. I had a weekend free but as soon as the week came my work-load sky rocketed. I haven't forgotten the request and I'll get to it as soon as I clear up my plate. Sorry, anon.
77a10e No.13721
>>13706Thanks, anon.
I've heard From has been looking at popular internet forums for ideas as to what they should be fixing. Gamefaqs seems to believe that they're leading on that front. I pray that isn't true, because they make ghazis seem intelligent.
I did notice while co-oping the witches that the witches aren't going visible when I run near them. It works at times, but I can't save my partner if I can't see the cunts. I'm guessing it's just another server issue?
c006ac No.13793
Straying from the lore, has anyone found any interesting chalice dungeon seeds? I've heard you can find special versions of weapons, but I've never looted much more than mats for more chalices and some bonemarrow ash
ee744c No.13821
>>13793The loot is in the Root dungeons, you get those by beating the normal ones. Check the guide there's some shared codes with loot
cc43d9 No.14168
FAVORITE BOSS
FAVORITE WEAPON
1408a7 No.14182
>>14168Just beat electric boss in the unseen place
Boss: Shadow of Yarnham
Shit got my blood pumping more than any other boss, felt so damn good to finally beat em
Weapon: Holy Blade so far
47f964 No.14191
8/10, desperately needs an expansion, faster matchmaking, more build variety, more magic items that are actually useful and interesting, more contextual PvP, more memorable NPCs (Alfred stole the show), and last but not least, actual beastmode transformation. It's so close to being a classic.
Oh, and where the fuck is Marvellous Chester? I need to hear his voice again.
Is NG+ worth doing? It seems like after beating it once I should just do the hardest chalices and call it a day.
a4570a No.14193
>>14191Is he confirmed indirectly to be part of the universe bloodborne is in?
47f964 No.14199
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>>14193Not to derail from Bloodborne too much, but he certainly looks and sounds like he has as much or more reason to be in it as Patches.
47f964 No.14202
>>14168Martyr Logarius and Eileen's Blade of Mercy, which I really wish weren't Arcane so that I could enchant it. I'm annoyed that I can't get a raw version of it within Chalices or something.
1408a7 No.14376
Wow, the one reborn was a shitty boss, also the only part of the game where I go down to 5 FPS so far
2506eb No.14416
6dc433 No.14430
>>12366I killed her by not giving a fuck about my well-being, i just wailed on her relentlessly, took me 3 tries but I got her.
77a10e No.14584
>>14191>Is NG+ worth doing?Not at all. I think most people are just plating then quitting.
I liked Bloodborne, but it feels very incomplete. The day 1 patch was a massive nerf to many bosses too. The Shadows of Yharnam used to all rush you at once, which gave next to no time to do anything if the flamefucker felt like running after you. It was a much more difficult and interesting boss fight.
I think this next patch is going to make or break it for those still playing. If the online and load times are still shit then BB is as good as dead. No amount of grind like a korean bullshit will save it.
>>14430Pthumewhatever Elder is the same. He'll punish the everliving fuck out of you if you hold back. It was really just r1 to win with a few dodges here and there or he'll fuck you over with his bs sword underground attack that goes off before the sword hits the ground.
77a10e No.14585
>>14168Reiterpallasch is fantastic. It's super fast and it's gun form hits hard when buffed with magic. It uses very little endurance as well and the tracking on gun form is amazing. The tracking on rapier form is pretty bad though.
I like Father G. It's a fun fight that forces you to either use the terrain or learn to parry and backstab. The arena was very nice as well. He even tells you what happened to all the other hunters.
6f69d6 No.14594
>>14168Father Gascoine
Motherfucking Tonitrus
82f749 No.14605
>>14584
>Pthumerian Elder
>Punishing
Also
>Whining about grinding as if it's something new
Bloodborne has the least amount of grinding out of all them because of increased drop-rates, not to mention the Eye runes and Arcane stat - fuck, the chalice dungeons even give you the items you need to summon the next new dungeon
>>14168
Beast-Possessed Souls
Burial Blade
ecf259 No.14665
>>14584
>Is NG+ worth doing?
>Not at all. I think most people are just plating then quitting.
Won't deny it. I did a NG+ to finish off my plat. Haven't touched the game for 2 weeks now.
77a10e No.14679
>>14605
He is punishing. Stand back rather than going on the offensive and see how well you do.
BB isn't even close to being the least grind oriented souls game. That would be DaS and BB is slightly worse than DeS. The drop rates are just as shit.
b0efdc No.14740
>>12366
I just found out in NG+ that you could use the numbing mist to stop her from healing
4575f9 No.14745
>>14679
His only distant attacks is a slow crossbow attack that is incredibly easy to dodge unless you have the reflexes of a dead seal, and he only uses his underground-sword attack if you get him into phase 2
Descendant is by all means incredibly punishing, but Elder is a cakewalk because of how slow and easy to dodge all his attacks are
>DaS less grind-heavy than BB which is supposedly worse than DeS
DeS is the absolutely worst in the series when it comes to grinding, with DaS following - absurdly tiny spawn-rates for even the most minor of things like humanity which aren't a guaranteed drop or anything of the sort
You have a near constant stream of everything you need in BB because nearly every enemy drops vials or bullets for you, and upgrade material is a guaranteed drop from the enemies who drop them, so I have no clue about what you're smoking
a5a05f No.14746
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>>11925
If I knew it was going to switch from Bram Stroker to Lovecraft halfway through I would of bought a PS4 in December when I had the chance.
7e75cd No.14756
>>14182
>Shadow of Yarnham
I was honestly surprised by this boss. I went in fully expecting to get my shit thrashed but I did it first try with only healing about twice and bolt paper.
To be honest there's only been a one or two bosses that have been giving me trouble and so far the worst is Logarius. I'm still stuck and I'm lvl61. I keep getting him down less than half and he just keeps spamming me with magic til I die. I was hoping to beat him before Rom but I went and did her/him/it, levelled and I still can't do it. I was so close with a co-op but I died like a scrub. I'm sorry co-op partner :(
7b0224 No.14781
>>14168
>Interesting Bosses
Shadow of Yharnam
Mergo's Wet Nurse
Father G.
Gehrman
Amygdala
Witch of Hemwick
The One Reborn
Vicar Amelia
>Uninspired Bosses
Daughter of the Cosmos
Rom
Celestial Emissary
Moon Presence
Micolash
Blood-starved Beast
Darkbeast Paarl
Logarius
77a10e No.14806
>>14745
>His only distant attacks is a slow crossbow attack that is incredibly easy to dodge unless you have the reflexes of a dead seal, and he only uses his underground-sword attack if you get him into phase 2
You contradicted yourself in a single sentence. Way to go. The underground attack hits before his sword touches the ground.
>You have a near constant stream of everything you need in BB because nearly every enemy drops vials or bullets for you, and upgrade material is a guaranteed drop from the enemies who drop them, so I have no clue about what you're smoking
Vials and bullets are a non-factor. You seemed to forget entirely about gems and chunks. The only thing that can compare is the bladestones from DeS. DaS wasn't grindy in the slightest, so I'm not sure why you're being completely delusional there.
BB is easily the most grindy of the too and DeS was nothing in terms of grind, because Thomas is still there. The only way someone could honestly say that DeS was the most grind-oriented of the series is if they were deadset on justifying their purchase just like the tortanic fags before them.
>>14756
They used to be harder before the day 1 patch. The scimitar guy was just as tenacious as the katana guy and they both used their full set of melee attacks from the beginning. The fire guy's fireballs would curve around the grave stone as well and he was just as tenacious at keeping you in his los.
6f69d6 No.14822
>>14806
Pure Bladestone motherfucker.
An the only thing that doesn't drop is the Blood Rock, everything else is easily dropped.
3c7d50 No.14827
Uh so, what makes the Great Ones so afraid of dying out? Are they actually mortal, but on a higher plane of… uh… power or something?
What is this "old blood"? Blood from one of them?
Where are all my plague doctors and mad scientists? Where's the black plague and the blood diseases? This isn't the game I was promised.
4575f9 No.15014
>>14806
>DeS was nothing in terms of grind
>Pure Bladestone
>Pure Moonstone
>Pure Anythingstone
>Trying to get Pure White Tendency if you had deviated from doing something that turns you into black even once
>DaS not grindy
>Never farmed for titanite
>Humanity
>Souls
>Etc.
>Needing to grind for good gems and chunks
>Gems the game actively gives you from both drops and chests located throughout the game
>Chunks that are found fucking everywhere in late-game
I liked DeS and DaS a lot, but you're blind as a bat if you don't think DeS wasn't grindy as hell
77a10e No.15574
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>>14822
Fuck no. Chunks are a bitch and so are decent gems outside of depth 5 and even then rng is a real cunt. It seems like the only purpose for the CDs was to pad the game, because they ran out of ideas.
>>15014
Pure anything wasn't that bad, because you only had to pick up one and then you were set.
Humanity was easy as shit in DaS, but the +10 component was a bitch from what I remember.
There's only a limited amount of chunks that are guaranteed per playthrough and the wolves have like a 4% drop rate. By the time you get to depth 5 and start farming the best gems, you'll have no need for them. Even then, you're still stuck farming amid a sea of shit gems hoping for one that isn't retarded. The gems that the game gives you are shit in comparison.
You have more in common with that potato than you think, anon.
5707d1 No.17029
I loved DeS and DaS. They are two of my favorite games. The bleak atmosphere, intriguing level design, harsh punishments, and mystery were what I liked most. I also disliked DaS2. A lot. Because it lacked those things, I played it once and never looked back. I don't have a PS4 and I haven't watched footage of Bloodborne or read reviews. I was hoping I could get opinions of Bloodborne from people who share my opinions of the first three. I don't feel like I can trust reviews.
811e7d No.17036
>Central Pthumeru Root Chalice
>First Boss are The Watcher
>dis_gon_be_ez.jpg
>Still can't kill them after the 20th attempt
Is this what hell is like?
811e7d No.17037
>Martyr Logarius
>Ludwig's Holy Blade
df9ce0 No.17087
>>17037
>Finally buy Bloodborne (digital copy)
>30 hour download time remaining
Yeah my internet is ass.
Fuck fuck fuck. How can I possibly wait 30 hours that's like next fucking century. The worst part is the download lets you play a bit of the game when it reaches the 5gig mark, so I got to play up until Father Gascoigne before reaching a gate that said I needed to install the rest before being able to continue. Playing the game briefly like this has made me that much more rabid to play the rest and this wait is honestly killing me.
I left no stone unturned up to that point and searched the shit out of Central Yarnham. I'm really impressed with the level design in terms of layout, probably the best I've seen so far in Souls. Graphics are a bit disappointing thus far, however my television I'm currently playing on is one of the shittiest televisions in the world and it makes PS4 games look like PS2 games. Combat is very nice and seems to be the best so far in the series. World aesthtic is nice and atmosphere is dense, but knowing beforehand that the game doesn't have as much as Dark Soul's variety is a minor downer. Also knowing that there are far fewer weapons and armors reduces the reward of the exploration factor and makes the world feel a bit more empty, despite being so intricately crafted (truly a work of art). So far I've played it completely offline because I'm still waiting for the rest of the download and update of course.
But yeah, LOVING it so far. I died once to Cleric Beast and I beat Father Gascoigne on my first try (am I gud?). I can see that this will probably become my second favourite in the series after Dark Souls 1 but it's obviously still way too early to call. First impressions says second best though and the love is most certainly there. I love this, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 tremendously; DaS2 not so much.
df9ce0 No.17104
>>17087
>Still 27 hours left
ffs. This is like being in fucking purgatory
df9ce0 No.17105
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>>12294
It's apparently not too hard to parry heals. Watch this full video. Same concept as parrying online as the previous games.
df9ce0 No.17160
Thing finally downloaded.
I've beaten Bloodstarved beast. After that I returned to the Cathedral, found myself a Rune. How do I equip the runes?
Then I went outside the cathedral and this fucking thing killed me, and I awoke somewhere else (can't remember the name). Got my ass kicked in this weird place and I keep reawakening there. It's hard here, don't have many blood vials left, like 12.
What do? Taking a break now. Who the hell said this shit was casualised? Christ.
Also I don't know what to level up, in terms of strength or skill. I chose the axe. I wanted to make a dex build but this thing scales best with Strength (only a D though). Should I just go with a strength build for my first time?
Loving this game man.
811e7d No.17166
>>17160
You have to go to a place called Hemwick Charnel Lane, it's to the left of the Grand Cathedral where you find Vicar Amelia.
You're in the Hypogean Gaol, having been killed by the Snatchers now in your world. You're probably not strong enough to fight them, so it's best to just run to the top of the area, light the lantern and return to the Hunter's Dream. From there, go back to the Cathedral Ward and go up the elevator that unlocked and get the radiant sword hunter badge if you want Ludwig's Holy Blade for a pure strength/ quality build.
df9ce0 No.17182
>>17166
Yeah, thanks, I did all that on my own nigga. Last boss I beat was the witches.
Game is so fucking great. Haven't had this much fun since Dark Souls 1 first playthrough. Literally a gaming orgasm.
Thanks for telling me what the badges do. I've already acquired the Ludwig Blade. So used to the Axe by now though but LB does so much more damage.
I can't get the the Hunter's Dream theme out of my head. That violin, fucking beautiful.
df9ce0 No.17190
eh, what does insight do?