a80fd2 No.11861
Still no good OC?
7b0224 No.11863
>>11861That other chan has some user-created art.
344e02 No.11866
>>11863Well I'm certainly not interested in cuckchan waifu centric garbage.
I want comics and comedy like the DeS community of old.
people were pretty retarded about the maiden in black, but waifu faggotry was never as bad as it was when DaS hit the PC.
a80fd2 No.11874
>>11866This shit was prime.
hoping some drawfags join /svidya/ soon.
402abb No.11885
So this happened to me
a80fd2 No.11892
>>11885Bug? did they glitch?
402abb No.11894
>>11892Not sure, wasnt intentional.
I was unintentional at least, lemme tell you how it happened
>Going trough forbidden woods>Ringing my small resonant bell on the way so i can help people out too>Get a few sessions, one makes it to the boss fight>I die when boss has a tiny bit of HP left>when i spawn in my world i am inside the boss room, with the boss fight started>I only got to that tiny village earlier in FW, so i hunters mark'd outta there>I spawn inside the boss room again with no boss HP bar or aggro 344e02 No.11902
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I just can't believe that Rom was a real hero and a real spider bean.
Why does Ebreitas mourn for him? Isn't she supposed to be in cahoots with the red moon and the alien squid baby?
7b0224 No.11919
>>11902The Daughter of the Cosmos seems to place more of an emphasis on creation than all the other Great Ones. She played a primary role in leading the Choir to use humans as host bodies for celestial beings. The killing of any ascended creature is likely an affront to her, which is probably why she is hostile toward you.
f87f4a No.11925
>TFW you thought Bloodborne would have a Victorian horror theme, but instead ended up being Lovecraftian.
f4d35d No.11938
>>11925
>MFW I still have mixed feelings about it. I don't mind Lovecraft elements in games, but I was hoping to have a Van Helsing experience with fighting werewolves, vampires, and leprechauns with badass weapons, and having the possibility to be able to turn into said beasts.
To me, although the enemies were interesting, I would've preferred to not have the Lovecraft elements in the game.
344e02 No.11957
>>11938Then you got people like me who have been wishing for more Lovecraft elements since Demon's Souls and The Old One.
outdid themselves in my opinion. good shit.
77a10e No.12071
>>11902I can't dodge that niggers icicle spam for some reason. One will hit me and then stagger me until they all hit me.
Did they fuck with its tracking, because chalice Rom was a lot easier than this bs.
344e02 No.12074
>>12071I think if you run towards him they won't hit you.
402abb No.12082
Anyone got the Muh git gud picture?
f87f4a No.12119
Am I just way underleveled/undergeared or is it normal that pretty much everything new after beating Rom is killing me in 2 hits? 1 hit if some bosses (random dungeon depth 3) are considered, and don't even fucking get me started about that NPC enemy in Grand Cathedral. I'm about at lower 70s right now.
9165e4 No.12121
7b0224 No.12135
>>12119Shoot for around 30 VIT and 30 END before hitting level 99.
Make sure you're invested heavily in either STR or SKL.
If you're an ARC or BLD build, then you're probably fucked.
Don't be afraid to ring the bell to get some pipe-hittin' niggas to help you.
f87f4a No.12137
>>12135I'm at 20 ARC so that probably affects things. Got a couple of spells, but they're weak-ass shit for the most part so I can see how that's hurting. Thanks for the stat allocation tips though.
77a10e No.12140
>>12074I'll try that. Thanks
f4d35d No.12185
>>12071>>12074>>12140Different anon. Tried this, didn't work. The little fuckers would hit me either from behind, from clipping through Rom, or would use their spit attack and kill me. Even if you get Rom to teleport and bum rushed him again, he would just start using his AOE attack, and the spiders would prevent me from getting far enough to avoid the blast.
I went with killing all the little guys, then attacking Rom. Worked for me after a while, but still got killed with either the little spider's one hit kill move, double teamed, or Rom's meteor shower during the process.
f87f4a No.12200
>>12185The tactic I eventually managed to beat Rom with involved:
Starting phase: Kill all little spiders first, then smack Rom around.
The rest: Stay just close enough at all times so that Rom won't use the long range icicle bombard. If you're by the edge and he uses it, closing in or several side dashes usually save you. If there's little spiders in the way, kill one and wait for Rom's next attack. Rush in and attack Rom after its attack (or kill another spider if they're still in the way). Repeat until dead.
At short-mid but not point-blank ranges you need to know only these two moves that Rom does: When he arcs his back, lifting his head and tail, he does an AoE blast attack. Short range. When he rolls onto his back, icicles are gonna shoot out from the ground. Backdash to safe distance.
344e02 No.12207
>>12185I really don't know how to avoid the blue meth meteors.
I got lucky the first time and haven't even beat him yet on my second character.
f5cdde No.12211
Without spoiling anything, is the game good? Did it live up to the hype?(not that there was much after Dark Souls 2)
89d451 No.12213
>>12211I can't believe how much shitposting this game has caused.
I mean, I can't ACTUALLY play it because I'm a poorfag who can only afford one console+PC, but from what I've seen on 2BFP, this game looks fucking amazing.
ae48b1 No.12215
So, I've heard of a memory bug.
The longer you play (without quitting), the easier the game becomes. Something that happens if you let the game runs for +12h
Since there's not enough memory space for boss to load their moves, they would just make simple attacks.
Most probably why some people said "the game is too easy"
7b0224 No.12224
>>12211It would be hard not to recommend it. The experience is unforgettable. Certain parts of the game make my skin crawl.
344e02 No.12230
>>12215I think it only works with Martyr Logarius
344e02 No.12231
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>>12230And it may be intentional in his case because he's REALLY FUCKING MEAN
probably the hardest boss in the game.
0d01f2 No.12234
>[spoiler]At this point, every woman with "the old blood" in Yharnam is impregnated. If you manage to terminate these pregnancies and consume the subsequent umbilical cords, you glean the cosmic wisdom of the Great Ones. This begins your metamorphosis.
>If you kill Gerhman after consuming the umbilical cords, you have too much insight to be coerced by Oedon. A struggle ensues, and you consume the remaining power of Oedon's avatar. As you continue to evolve, the cycle is now yours to control. [/spoiler]
You eat babies to become the ultimate life from.
Thats pretty fucking dark.
77a10e No.12238
>>12207It has weird tracking. It seems to either hit everywhere around you or track you through your rolls.
It might be better like that anon said to try and stay pretty close to avoid meteor bs entirely. You'll need to be very careful with the spiders though as they can easily one shot you if you aren't overleveled with their dragoon leap. Their regular leap still hits hard as hell too.
I've also seen someone negate the majority of their damage with the lead elixer that makes you move super slow, so it might be possible to tank Roms hits. However, the tester avoided Rom's magic damage, so it might not do shit against it.
cb67eb No.12241
>>11874I'm a drawfag going through the game and loving ittt so ready to doodle some cray. Whatchu want anon?
77a10e No.12247
>>12241That's pretty tough. Rom, meteor bs and his spiders would be good. There's also Martyr and his fuck you skull attacks.
You could go meta as well with pc complaining about the game being easy while abusing the duping glitch with the stones or saying it was easy after dying 10 times per kill. The 3 shadows boss would be good too as the katana fag that gains super slim jim powers and smacks you from across the map.
f97f6c No.12250
>>12231Bloodletting Beast says hello
f97f6c No.12251
>>12241Martyr Logarius as the Ice King from adventure time.
77a10e No.12253
>>12250>Bloodletting BeastHe was a massive bitch. Isn't the headless beast even harder?
f97f6c No.12254
>>12253So they say, But fuck him. His damage frames are huge and he make the camera go ballistic.
77a10e No.12259
>>12254The camera sucks against most large enemies, because From made them very spastic and enemies love to jump out of view constantly. Paarl is an annoying as fuck fight, because he spends most of his time jumping around the map. Amygdal can get spastic as well at times when you spend so much time underneath him, but he'll stop pretty quickly.
Imo, BB is more of an action game than previous soul games, but it still kept its old camera rather than get one that works well in fast paced games. I've had the camera refuse to switch targets or stay on target, because a massive enemy took one step behind a pillar even though most of his body is still sticking out.
The game is fun and the world is beautiful. It just lacks polish and patches.
f97f6c No.12267
>>12259they will never fix the camera its been 5 games and it still persists
344e02 No.12268
cb67eb No.12270
>>12268Fuck. That's even better. Stealing that.
93baf8 No.12271
>>12241Would definitely have to toss my vote in with Logarius, specifically something expressing how fucking difficult he is. My average deathcount to bosses in this game was about five, but I died at least 12 times to that fucker. I am not superstitious, but I can't help but feel like some kind of "x-factor" causes this guy to kill you in really bullshit ways. Of course, I still only have myself to blame, but goddamn I should not have died to that fucker so many times. Also, his capacity to deal free damage during his first stage is kind of bullshit sometimes, if only due to how ridiculously large the AOE and damage on his spells are – one fuckup and you're using two vials.
93baf8 No.12273
>>12200This is the exact strategy I used. Dash/roll towards him until you're at the edge of his AOE attack range, then dodge back out of it when he attacks, all while killing off the little spiders. Once you've finished them off, wail on Rom himself. Kinda slow, but it works well.
>>12119If you're having trouble with the dude you mentioned in spoiler text, you can aggro him and then run back towards the stairs to cause him to walk back in a straight line, then throw poison knives at him. Preferably do this when his weapon is transformed, which causes additional damage to him. Cheesy, but honestly I did not feel like fighting a dude that can easily two-shot me with his fast as fuck attacks. I felt like it was very out-of-place.
77a10e No.12276
>>12271I'm pretty sure I've seen him chain to melee skulls on me that sandwiched me. One spawned behind me and then the other in my face. Needless to say, it was very painful.
>>12273Even his gun can kill you in a few hits. The other npcs can be killed by using the terrain as far as I can tell.
The two in the church ward can be funneled onto the staircase where they stop dodging like coked up rabbits. The same goes for the cunt in Brynworth, but you need to be careful that you don't get caught in the open by a call from beyond.
The ones in the nightmare frontier die in the swamp if you run them into it. I think the 3 outside of Reborn's gate can be killed by the pig's charge. It does huge damage and can drag you across the arena for more damage if he catches you with it. Henryk can get caught on tombstones and attacked pretty freely just like Gascione. Machine gunner can be knocked off by weapon spam, he can roll off or he can be made friendly. I'm not sure if the 3 hooded guys near the wet nurse boss are hunters as I just ran past them. They kinda looked like the shadow boss now that I think of it.
29d516 No.12294
It's not funny and terribly drawn. I'm so sorry
f97f6c No.12296
>>12294Its good could use a better punchline
29d516 No.12307
>>12294I also drew this based on one of my favorite attacks
and bosses in the game. I drew Ebrietas based on memory and not reference.
344e02 No.12310
>>12307Every fucking time, even with jolly co-op, the fight is going swell and the alien pulls that shit out of it's ass.
instakill every time, hard as shit to dodge too.
a2619e No.12359
>>12307>>12294Drawfags, here?
Oh my
0c3168 No.12366
>vicar amelia
>bosses that now heal themselves
954a80 No.12385
>>11925I actually really appreciate the lovecraftian themes in the game. But that might just be because my brother gave me an entire library of Lovecraft books online. I'm on At the Mountains of Madness right now.
5b5d61 No.12392
How are you guys finding summoning? I get co op, but it seems like since I beat ROM, approximately, that it takes forever if I even find anything.
7b0224 No.12446
>>12392What is your level?
344e02 No.12475
>>12392You might have overleveled. Made that mistake on my first playthough, had to go to NG+ to correct it.
couldn't hack Nightmare Frontier without help…help I could not get so I said fuck it and ended the game.
f87f4a No.12493
>>12475What is considered overleveled after early post-Rom content?
82f749 No.12506
I might be reading a bit too deeply into the games story-telling, but I noticed something between the Clinic and Church where you send people
They represent two sides of the same coin, and both mean cruel ends to the people you send there but in different ways. It's highly implied there's something seriously wrong with the Clinic, if it's not people being turned into Aliens or that Insight-sucking thing in the backyard or Iosefka being absolutely bonkers - but there isn't anything wrong with the Church. Yes, the cripple is unnerving and all, but he doesn't pose a threat to anyone you send in there - everyone is perfectly safe, but as to why they are is another story.
Iosefka actually gives you Insight for bringing people to her, unlike the Church - we know Insight is basically the stat for seeing the things man was not meant to see, so from this we can take that Iosefka represents the Great Ones, or all things eldritch, things entirely out of our control - unlike the Church, which is entirely man-made. Despite the cripple being quite peculiar he's perfectly normal and non-hostile, and according to his own words the incense keeps the beasts away, a completely common and usual product of human make. The Clinic is purposefully inhuman and weird, while the Church is purposefully human and just a regular church.
The Clinic represents our undoing by the hands of Great Ones or things not of this earth, but the Church is about us and how we're also our own predator - nobody in the church dies from something inhuman, but by each other - Arianna gets killed by the priestess, the old lady sedates herself to the point of hallucinating, or the strange peasant in the woods who kills people in the church off, presumably to sate his bloodlust. Even when Arianna is impregnated meaning you can kill her for a Umbillical Cord, she's not in the church, but cast down into the sewer.
In this sense, the Clinic shares a lot of similarities with Byrgenwerth. Humans turning into a Great One (Byrgenwerth has people-Amygdalas, the Clinic the Celestial Emissaries), not to mention the tentacle-headed enemy clothed in rags whose grab attack steals Insight from you. It's eating your knowledge of the eldritch Truth, which implies it's what might happen to people who discover it. Is this what lining the brain with eyes means, or at least a failed attempt at it? These creatures generally appear in an area with an NPC that is kind of out there, be it Master Willelm or Iosefka. It craves knowledge of the Truth, just like these two people.
I seriously hope my ramblings make sense because this is some genuinely cool shit.
77a10e No.12515
>>12493Staying under 100 in ng seems to be where most people are atm. I'd stay in the 70-90 range for co-op tbh.
a80fd2 No.12518
>>12506Wait. What are the conditions for Arianna to die?
77a10e No.12520
>>12518You take her blood and not the nuns or you take her blood after the nun's. One or both of them make the nun jealous. The man who does the opposite says that the whore is jealous of the nun and hears voices in her head, but since he always says the opposite, he's talking about the nun.She goes crazy after Rom's fight. I've heard that she can attack you, but I'm not not sure what the triggers are for that other than trigger her killing the whore. 7b0224 No.12525
>>12506The clinic is a front for the Choir. Members of the Choir abducted children and used the clinics to turn them into host bodies. This was done under the tutelage of the Daughter of the Cosmos.
Oedon Chapel is a monument to the Great Ones that was most likely erected by Yahar'gul acolytes of the School of Mensis. This is why the Amygdala has a presence there. It also explains the kidnappings.
7b0224 No.12537
>>12515Some fools are glitching up to level 400. This is stupid because any fool can dump points into attributes, and the enemies still scale with you. With this in mind, the sweet spot for PvP and PvE is anywhere from levels 99 to 119.
402abb No.12543
7b0224 No.12554
>>12543They sure do.
Bosses also get more health if you summon for help.
402abb No.12569
>>12554I know about more health for summons but havent noticed anything when ive leveled up.
77a10e No.12573
>>12537>the sweet spot for PvP and PvE is anywhere from levels 99 to 119The people at level 400 are stronger even if enemies scale, because they have more attributes to hit harder and use more skills/abilities.
The sweet spot looks to have failed for the most part unless you're talking about ng+. In ng, you should never go above 100 unless you feel like soloing for the majority of your playthrough.
344e02 No.12590
>>12573What about NG+?
200? 300? blood echoes are far more abundant here. what's the co-op/pvp level range for NG+? not NG++
7b0224 No.12600
>>12590I wouldn't go above 99, even in NG+.
You could probably get away with hitting 125, but it wouldn't make much difference with the hard and soft caps in play.
77a10e No.12604
>>12590I think NG+ may be able to co-op with NG. Another anon said that he was able to co-op at level 15 with his +10 weapon, but I've yet to confirm it.
Has anyone else tried it?
7b0224 No.12606
>>12604You can summon anyone in your level range, regardless of whether you've moved onto NG+.
77a10e No.12636
Is the unseen village elevator broken for anyone else? I cleared the map, but it won't work. I even jumped from the middle ledge down to the bottom.
77a10e No.12637
>>12636I ported to the first unseen village lantern and pulled the lever. It came up. I'm not sure why it wasn't working when I was stepping on the button below.
29d516 No.12641
>>12359Just one. If anyone wants some sort of silly scene drawn then just ask, I suppose. I'll try to get it to you asap. I'm not that good and anatomy and proportions will be off immensely.
5b5d61 No.12664
>>12475>>12446Turns out I was suffering that bug that makes you have no online after a while. But I am getting close to over leveled too
4575f9 No.12667
So what causes members of the Healing Church to have much more powerful Beast forms? Cleric Beast, Vicar Amelia and Father Gascogine are all members of the church in some way, and all of them have unique forms unlike anything you encounter that isn't affiliated with the Healing Church, and by extension the Choir, which we know have dabbled quite heavily into all things Eldritch. We know hunters dabbled in "the old blood", and it's unlikely the Church Hunters did not do exactly that as well - but to what extent? Church-affiliated beasts have nothing in common with regular beasts you encounter elsewhere in both size and strength, not to mention the personal touches to them - the horns on both the Cleric and Amelia, Gasocigne looking remarkably much like he did before only more monstrous… Is it safe to assume that the Church took parts in a more refined version of old blood, or something else entirely? Is this what happens when humans unaffected by the Truth? Master Willelm allegedly used the old blood to ascend, but we know he at least had some form of knowledge of the Truth, wanting more - he's largely human when you find him and has turned blind because of his attempt to ascend like Rom did, his mind instead cracking under all the knowledge.
Or is it the other way around, that these people were the "good" results of exposure to old blood? They're superior to a regular human being, be it speed, endurance or power - and Willelm is a failure in that he just went blind instead of becoming something more than human?
Just rambling again, but this genuinely weirds me out - how does this stuff work in the setting, anyway?
cb67eb No.12668
>>12641>>12359Two actually. I offered on >>12241and doodled on>>12261
And will probably draw some Logarius busting hunter chops cuz everyone seemed to want that.
77a10e No.12672
>>12667That homeless guy becomes a super beast as well. It might be more of a personal thing as to whether or not a person becomes a normal beast or a super beast. Gilbert was always depressed and he became a normal beast, but the homeless guy had a lot of rage and he went super. However, Amelia turned to prayer and she eventually went super as well. It might have to do with there being multiple old ones with different personalities and tastes as well. They may just bless those that they seem fit with a bit more power in their transformation.A lot of members with the church are big on experimenting with the old blood like Losefka who is turning people into aliens. The bag guys seem to have been created by the church as well since the nito-in-a-box enemies kill them all once the moon turns red just like the bag guys killed the hunters. 4575f9 No.12675
>>12672The bag guys are from Ya'har Ghul, as revealed by the Ya'har Ghul armor - they wore the armor to hide in the darkness of night to kidnap people. Their robes are probably the torn remnants of that uniform when they mutated into whatever they are now. You can find their handiwork in the Hypogaean Gaol where you go if they kill you - you can find multiple citizens of Yharnam in a progressed state of becoming a beast hurdled up in the cells, and they're the most prominent humanoid in the area at the time, although this changes when you get access to the full area, instead leaving way to Amygdalas and mutated Citizens that deform and reform through blood. Their finite access to magic probably lies in the affiliation to Amygdala, which seems prone to grant Arcane powers to its followers.As for the beggar, I feel like he's a "correct" beast that someone who haven't dabbled in the eldritch becomes - maybe it's the final evolution of the bigger werewolves you encounter in the game, or is he something else entirely? He's the only character that seems to have some form of control over his transformation, so it could be assumed he's not even human to begin with - nobody in the whole game is able to do this other than him, be they affiliated with the Church or not. 77a10e No.12676
Who's Laurence btw?
Is he the guy in the first cs?
"The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood.''
Moon presence is nameless and Oedon is formless. Since the first note talks about transcending the hunt. Wouldn't this mean that the purpose of hunters is just get enough blood flowing for moon presence/oedon to be reborn? Would this mean that they succeeded in the secret ending? Is that why the other hunters stopped dreaming or gave up on the hunt of beasts?
77a10e No.12677
>>12675he might be something else. There are a ton of ancient monsters running around. You even run into ancient vampires in the chalice.However, he did seem to accept his monstrous side, so maybe that allowed him to control it. If the dream/nightmare are pocket dimensions that the old ones are manifesting in, that could mean accepting the dream/nightmare could grant you a bit more control over it. It would explain why the hunter npcs comment on the doll and are assumed to have been to the hunter's dream before they stopped dreaming. Eileen is also a hunter of hunters who have lost control of themselves. The self-awareness may have gotten to them over time, which is what caused them to lose themselves in the nightmare. Gascione states that everyone will become beasts eventually anyways, which is why he kills his wife and everyone else. The hunters that no longer dream may have given up on the dream as well, which is why they can't return to the hunter's dream and respawn.Who knows though. It is fun to throw out lore conjecture as it makes the world more fun to play in.
77a10e No.12679
>>12675After talking to patches. I think Amygdala turns his followers into half human/half monster hybrids like the spider people. Patches refers to him as Lor Amygdala and is shocked to see that you've bested him. He later starts to contemplate 'on the good grace of a certain god and how he meted out his love'. 77a10e No.12680
>>12675I just found another note:
"Master Willem was right. Evolution without courage will be the ruin of our race'' This could help explain why some of the humans were able to transcend and the more cowardly characters were not. They lacked courage, so they were instead struck down. Willem tried to gain eyes, but went blind instead.Another note in the university talks about hunting the old ones. This might show that the old ones aren't exactly gods, but instead superior beings to humans. They can still be 'defeated', but they're still alien to us and outside our understanding. This is supported by many of them looking like aliens and needing insight just to be able to see most of them. 4575f9 No.12686
>>12677We know Djura has separated himself from the dream judging from his dialogue, equipment and non-respawning nature, but how did he do it? It seems he did it by his own volition, so does that mean he approached Gehrman and said he didn't want to be part of it? Was he one of the hunters that like you learned the truth about the whole thing and in sheer disgust took Gehrmans offer? The Powder Kegs seem to be a rogue group, which explains why he uses their work: they don't care what you use it for, unlike the workshop which was specifically meant for hunting beasts. How do you stop yourself from dreaming like Djura has done?>>12680Considering at least some of the Old Ones are made by man (Rom, Celestial Emissary) it can be argued that they are indeed just beings superior to humans, presumably along with the Pthumerians (from what we see of them, they're rather… inhuman, albeit subtly). They can bleed and be killed by human weaponry, so it's doubtful they are almighty gods - it's that their powers make them seem godly, which is why they were worshipped. Most if not all of them (well, minus Rom) have different things to them that imply a connection to humans. Amygdala has human hands, the Celestial Emissary are humans turned into "host bodies" by the Choir, Mergo's Wet Nurse just looks like a mutated humanoid… Very few of the Old Ones seem to have no real connection to humans (like Ebrietas or Moon Presence), but at the same time they don't seem to do much more than exist. Rom is the one that seems to have the most power out of them all since he can actually delay the blood moon and doesn't attack you immediately even if you walk up to him. It seems that things born from a human are the most prone to violence in the game, but why is that? 77a10e No.12688
>>12641Would you mind doing some artwork on
Viola and her sister? I just finished their quest and I feel pretty
awful.
>>12686The Choir Garb's description states that
"Together with the left behind Great One, they look to the skies, in search of astral signs, that may lead them to the rediscovery of true greatness.'' That's an odd way to describe
Rom.
4575f9 No.12692
>>12688Vacuous basically means dumb or lacking in ideas, and it seems that this is what makes Rom so unique compared to the other Old Ones. He doesn't see you as a threat until you attack him because he's too stupid to even think it, he's just an animal fending for itself if you prove to be a threat. His stupidity and empty mind is what made him viable to get "eyes on the inside", which Micolash actively says he got unlike everybody else. Willelm was a brillant scholar, but was unable to ascend - could it be that humans are too intelligent to be able to handle it? Did Byrgenwerth know about the blood moon and used Rom, their own Old One to prevent it from happening, foiling the other Old Ones plan by matching their power? 94f6e3 No.12698
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>12692maybe I should buy a Ps4…
7e75cd No.12706
>>12688Do you mean the
mother Viola? The little girl asked you to find her mother not sister. Her sister does appear in the window, however, if you gave the brooch to her. Cuz I actually had an idea for a pic of her.
82f749 No.12707
>>12698
>E-celeb who leeches off others work taken directly from chans and passes it off as his ownYou at least didn't post Vaati but jesus christ
>>12688Viola is the mother, the sisters are nameless, although you do get to see the older sisters corpse if you bring her the ribbon (you sick fuck) but no name is ever given. 7b0224 No.12718
>>12688
>"Together with the left behind Great One, they look to the skies, in search of astral signs, that may lead them to the rediscovery of true greatness.'' That's an odd way to describe Rom.That text is not referring to Rom; it's referring to the Daughter of the Cosmos, who was the first Great One with whom Willem's inner circle had legitimate interactions. That inner circle became the Choir, which erected the Healing Church and the monument to that Great One within the Upper Cathedral.
The "vacuous" adjective used to describe Rom is tongue-in-cheek. Prior to blood ministrations, the spider known as Rom was mundane, but its metamorphosis conferred it with unfathomable power and ritual prowess. As a result, this Great One is so enlightened that it hides its true nature from Willem and others.
344e02 No.12728
>>12692if Rom was stupid, how did he keep the red moon away?
f6a361 No.12745
Anyone wanna bro-op on Rom the Vacuous spider?
I'm SL 70, so min-max for co op is 53-87.
82f749 No.12757
>>12728Because it feels it poses a threat to it, and like any other animal of nature bares it fangs to protect itself from that threat, in his case doing… Something to prevent it. There is nothing to say he wasn't loyal to his master (Willelm) who soaked up all his time spending it on Rom, so it could be they learned of it and used Roms power as an Old One to prevent it. If it can cause it, it could also stop it. 77a10e No.12786
>>12706The
sister shows up later on after you give her the blood stained ribbon. She commits suicide after she realizes that her sister and her last family member is dead. She jumps face first from the ladder and her body is found on the ground next to the hammer guy. That or hammer guy smashed her head in, but I think suicide is the most likely scenario 77a10e No.12790
>>12707It made her happy for a bit to have something of her sister to remember her. Too bad we couldn't take her to the
church before she
lost herself and jumped 0c3168 No.12911
593927 No.12914
9445df No.12915
77a10e No.12920
>bloodnigger beastI got him down to 30% and fuck this camera so much. He seems pretty straightforward, but I can't even see what he's doing most of the time.
However, he hits hard as fuck and it only takes a hit to put me at critical. I think I'll try and get him to 30% again and then throw shit at him for the last chunk of health.
>>12911Is the old workshop in the oedon chapel after that ledge you need to somehow jump to?
77a10e No.12923
>>12920It's bloodletter btw. Is he weak to fire?
>>12745I wish I had seen this earlier. I still need to help out at Rom, Celestial Emissary and Erbetrius.
I tried helping at Martyr, but then I died like a bitch at the 3/4 mark from melee skull explosions. I was too ashamed to continue.
1b9121 No.12932
77a10e No.13093
Bloodletter finally went down after I stopped trying to dance around his legs like a retard.
I baited his lunges and waited for the one where he throws his entire body forward, which leaves his head wide open for damage and riposte. He seemed to stop doing it near death, so I stuck with throwing shit at him and take pot shots at his legs whenever he walked over me. I found out that his stride is huge, so he can cover distance very quickly.
How hard is defiled Pthumera chalice?
82f749 No.13175
If anyone is willing to help on Martyr Logarius, that'd be greatly appreciated!
I'm on SL Level 53 right now, and it'll be my first time fighting him so please be aware that I may or may not fuck up but I hope I won't!
7b0224 No.13177
>>13175Wear armor that protects against arcane and stay on his ass.
You're going to get rolled, but this will keep you alive longer.
803d67 No.13189
>>13093The Dungeon? not too hard. The Bosses? You're gonna need a fuckton of vials.
74729b No.13281
>>12385can you link that Lovecraft library
c97e53 No.13288
>working my way through the dungeons
>kill bloodletting beast
>can't go to any new dungeon without gathering more materials
what a pain in the ass, i want to like the dungeons more but they really start to dragon on after awhile
7b0224 No.13376
>>13288The dungeon concept is interesting, but everything you do inside the dungeons feels like grinding. The enemies aren't interesting enough to captivate you, and the only thing that keeps you going is the prospect of finding advanced blood gems. I'd rather invade someone or assist with a boss than run through a chalice dungeon.
77a10e No.13485
It's probably way too late, but his attacks do blood damage. I've also heard he can be backstabbed when casting his fuck you buff, so he doesn't get as aggressive later in the fight and he doesn't negate every ranged attack either.
Martyr sucks dick though when he decides to spam his magic all day every day as it can easily kill you and deny you access to getting near him. Once he stops casting like a cunt, then you can get in close for a few hits before he fucks off back into the air again. You can use the terrain (pillars/floor) to eat some of his magic attacks, but beware of the blood ball as it has tracking, can go through objects and can ruin you if you don't run away. Later on, he'll use more melee attacks and stay on the ground longer for possible ripostes if he doesn't have the fuck you buff on.
I would have helped, but I no longer have a character in that level range until I level up my Arc build a bit more. However, I'd rather level up another quality or Blt character than take Arc into a fight with Martyr. What retard decided to completely fuck over mages and then stick the only available early magic gems behind bsb and the forest glitch? The split damage weapons are an arc trap as they scale so much better with a quality build and they can't even be buffed. The elemental buffs are the same for everyone and are static The spells/tools scale for shit against ng+/challice enemies and they aren't even that hot in ng. Points put into str/skl become useless when you go pure arc, so that's a waste too.
Oh well, I just need the chalice trophy for the plat now and then I'm done.
77a10e No.13487
>>13376>>13288I think the dungeons were rushed or were tacked on near the end. It's a pain the ass to co-op in there unless it's a well-known dungeon. If From really wants to put mmo bs in BB, then they could at least give us a lobby to organize dungeon co-op/pvp. It would make multiplayer much easier to organize. Also, hunter npcs are commonly forming groups in-game, so why can't we? It's not like in the other games where the slayer of demons/chosen undead was way too late to the party. There were still plenty of humans to be found upon our arrival into the nightmare and many hunters still roaming around.
5b5d61 No.13530
>>13487I thought the dungeons were in response to other souls games lack of replayability. Obviously they're all good games someone can sink hundreds of hours into, but they lose something once you've memorized enemy positions.
From already attempted to address this with the new enemies placed in ng+ of das2, but it seems maybe they're looking for better single player replayability. Except it seems there's a certain amount of tension created from being weak at the start that still hasn't been addressed.
77a10e No.13557
>>13530In terms of mages. Tossing an arcane or fire gemstone in an early chest would help greatly. It could even be one of those 1.00% gems and it would help mages get started early rather than being gimped dps. The spell issue is kinda iffy though. If the spells are too good for their level then you'll end up with another das where melee builds take the strongest spells for their already strong builds. In my opinion, placing spells into the 50+ range and allowing arcane to scale a bit better past 50 could help mages specialize and be effective without allowing cookie cutters to take their tools.
BB's atmosphere is fantastic and I got my money's worth solo. I just wish they would make it easier to co-op with others. I helped get 20+ people through Father G yesterday and I was helping with BSB and Amelia today. The point being that while the single player is fun, I personally prefer to assist and play with others.
On another note, there's a lot of lore for the dlc, so there's plenty more that they could add or change. I'm sure the game will only get better from here.
I believe that BB is a great game, but that it could be even greater.
77a10e No.13562
I just found out that Laurentius started the Vilebloods. The Amelia cutscene shows Willem addressing him and acknowledging Laurentius' coming betrayal. Willem tells him to then fear the old blood.
Alfred states only during the first time that ask about the Vilebloods that a scholar from Byrn-something betrayed the others and took old blood to cainhurst castle where the vilebloods were born. Eventually Martyr and his executioners make their way there and kill everyone and Martyr stays behind to keep the immortal Queen locked up in an illusion.
29d516 No.13706
>>12688Just came by to say sorry about not working on the sister artwork. I had a weekend free but as soon as the week came my work-load sky rocketed. I haven't forgotten the request and I'll get to it as soon as I clear up my plate. Sorry, anon.
77a10e No.13721
>>13706Thanks, anon.
I've heard From has been looking at popular internet forums for ideas as to what they should be fixing. Gamefaqs seems to believe that they're leading on that front. I pray that isn't true, because they make ghazis seem intelligent.
I did notice while co-oping the witches that the witches aren't going visible when I run near them. It works at times, but I can't save my partner if I can't see the cunts. I'm guessing it's just another server issue?
c006ac No.13793
Straying from the lore, has anyone found any interesting chalice dungeon seeds? I've heard you can find special versions of weapons, but I've never looted much more than mats for more chalices and some bonemarrow ash
ee744c No.13821
>>13793The loot is in the Root dungeons, you get those by beating the normal ones. Check the guide there's some shared codes with loot
cc43d9 No.14168
FAVORITE BOSS
FAVORITE WEAPON
1408a7 No.14182
>>14168Just beat electric boss in the unseen place
Boss: Shadow of Yarnham
Shit got my blood pumping more than any other boss, felt so damn good to finally beat em
Weapon: Holy Blade so far
47f964 No.14191
8/10, desperately needs an expansion, faster matchmaking, more build variety, more magic items that are actually useful and interesting, more contextual PvP, more memorable NPCs (Alfred stole the show), and last but not least, actual beastmode transformation. It's so close to being a classic.
Oh, and where the fuck is Marvellous Chester? I need to hear his voice again.
Is NG+ worth doing? It seems like after beating it once I should just do the hardest chalices and call it a day.
a4570a No.14193
>>14191Is he confirmed indirectly to be part of the universe bloodborne is in?
47f964 No.14199
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>>14193Not to derail from Bloodborne too much, but he certainly looks and sounds like he has as much or more reason to be in it as Patches.
47f964 No.14202
>>14168Martyr Logarius and Eileen's Blade of Mercy, which I really wish weren't Arcane so that I could enchant it. I'm annoyed that I can't get a raw version of it within Chalices or something.
1408a7 No.14376
Wow, the one reborn was a shitty boss, also the only part of the game where I go down to 5 FPS so far
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6dc433 No.14430
>>12366I killed her by not giving a fuck about my well-being, i just wailed on her relentlessly, took me 3 tries but I got her.
77a10e No.14584
>>14191>Is NG+ worth doing?Not at all. I think most people are just plating then quitting.
I liked Bloodborne, but it feels very incomplete. The day 1 patch was a massive nerf to many bosses too. The Shadows of Yharnam used to all rush you at once, which gave next to no time to do anything if the flamefucker felt like running after you. It was a much more difficult and interesting boss fight.
I think this next patch is going to make or break it for those still playing. If the online and load times are still shit then BB is as good as dead. No amount of grind like a korean bullshit will save it.
>>14430Pthumewhatever Elder is the same. He'll punish the everliving fuck out of you if you hold back. It was really just r1 to win with a few dodges here and there or he'll fuck you over with his bs sword underground attack that goes off before the sword hits the ground.
77a10e No.14585
>>14168Reiterpallasch is fantastic. It's super fast and it's gun form hits hard when buffed with magic. It uses very little endurance as well and the tracking on gun form is amazing. The tracking on rapier form is pretty bad though.
I like Father G. It's a fun fight that forces you to either use the terrain or learn to parry and backstab. The arena was very nice as well. He even tells you what happened to all the other hunters.
6f69d6 No.14594
>>14168Father Gascoine
Motherfucking Tonitrus
82f749 No.14605
>>14584
>Pthumerian Elder
>Punishing
Also
>Whining about grinding as if it's something new
Bloodborne has the least amount of grinding out of all them because of increased drop-rates, not to mention the Eye runes and Arcane stat - fuck, the chalice dungeons even give you the items you need to summon the next new dungeon
>>14168
Beast-Possessed Souls
Burial Blade
ecf259 No.14665
>>14584
>Is NG+ worth doing?
>Not at all. I think most people are just plating then quitting.
Won't deny it. I did a NG+ to finish off my plat. Haven't touched the game for 2 weeks now.
77a10e No.14679
>>14605
He is punishing. Stand back rather than going on the offensive and see how well you do.
BB isn't even close to being the least grind oriented souls game. That would be DaS and BB is slightly worse than DeS. The drop rates are just as shit.
b0efdc No.14740
>>12366
I just found out in NG+ that you could use the numbing mist to stop her from healing
4575f9 No.14745
>>14679
His only distant attacks is a slow crossbow attack that is incredibly easy to dodge unless you have the reflexes of a dead seal, and he only uses his underground-sword attack if you get him into phase 2
Descendant is by all means incredibly punishing, but Elder is a cakewalk because of how slow and easy to dodge all his attacks are
>DaS less grind-heavy than BB which is supposedly worse than DeS
DeS is the absolutely worst in the series when it comes to grinding, with DaS following - absurdly tiny spawn-rates for even the most minor of things like humanity which aren't a guaranteed drop or anything of the sort
You have a near constant stream of everything you need in BB because nearly every enemy drops vials or bullets for you, and upgrade material is a guaranteed drop from the enemies who drop them, so I have no clue about what you're smoking
a5a05f No.14746
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>>11925
If I knew it was going to switch from Bram Stroker to Lovecraft halfway through I would of bought a PS4 in December when I had the chance.
7e75cd No.14756
>>14182
>Shadow of Yarnham
I was honestly surprised by this boss. I went in fully expecting to get my shit thrashed but I did it first try with only healing about twice and bolt paper.
To be honest there's only been a one or two bosses that have been giving me trouble and so far the worst is Logarius. I'm still stuck and I'm lvl61. I keep getting him down less than half and he just keeps spamming me with magic til I die. I was hoping to beat him before Rom but I went and did her/him/it, levelled and I still can't do it. I was so close with a co-op but I died like a scrub. I'm sorry co-op partner :(
7b0224 No.14781
>>14168
>Interesting Bosses
Shadow of Yharnam
Mergo's Wet Nurse
Father G.
Gehrman
Amygdala
Witch of Hemwick
The One Reborn
Vicar Amelia
>Uninspired Bosses
Daughter of the Cosmos
Rom
Celestial Emissary
Moon Presence
Micolash
Blood-starved Beast
Darkbeast Paarl
Logarius
77a10e No.14806
>>14745
>His only distant attacks is a slow crossbow attack that is incredibly easy to dodge unless you have the reflexes of a dead seal, and he only uses his underground-sword attack if you get him into phase 2
You contradicted yourself in a single sentence. Way to go. The underground attack hits before his sword touches the ground.
>You have a near constant stream of everything you need in BB because nearly every enemy drops vials or bullets for you, and upgrade material is a guaranteed drop from the enemies who drop them, so I have no clue about what you're smoking
Vials and bullets are a non-factor. You seemed to forget entirely about gems and chunks. The only thing that can compare is the bladestones from DeS. DaS wasn't grindy in the slightest, so I'm not sure why you're being completely delusional there.
BB is easily the most grindy of the too and DeS was nothing in terms of grind, because Thomas is still there. The only way someone could honestly say that DeS was the most grind-oriented of the series is if they were deadset on justifying their purchase just like the tortanic fags before them.
>>14756
They used to be harder before the day 1 patch. The scimitar guy was just as tenacious as the katana guy and they both used their full set of melee attacks from the beginning. The fire guy's fireballs would curve around the grave stone as well and he was just as tenacious at keeping you in his los.
6f69d6 No.14822
>>14806
Pure Bladestone motherfucker.
An the only thing that doesn't drop is the Blood Rock, everything else is easily dropped.
3c7d50 No.14827
Uh so, what makes the Great Ones so afraid of dying out? Are they actually mortal, but on a higher plane of… uh… power or something?
What is this "old blood"? Blood from one of them?
Where are all my plague doctors and mad scientists? Where's the black plague and the blood diseases? This isn't the game I was promised.
4575f9 No.15014
>>14806
>DeS was nothing in terms of grind
>Pure Bladestone
>Pure Moonstone
>Pure Anythingstone
>Trying to get Pure White Tendency if you had deviated from doing something that turns you into black even once
>DaS not grindy
>Never farmed for titanite
>Humanity
>Souls
>Etc.
>Needing to grind for good gems and chunks
>Gems the game actively gives you from both drops and chests located throughout the game
>Chunks that are found fucking everywhere in late-game
I liked DeS and DaS a lot, but you're blind as a bat if you don't think DeS wasn't grindy as hell
77a10e No.15574
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>>14822
Fuck no. Chunks are a bitch and so are decent gems outside of depth 5 and even then rng is a real cunt. It seems like the only purpose for the CDs was to pad the game, because they ran out of ideas.
>>15014
Pure anything wasn't that bad, because you only had to pick up one and then you were set.
Humanity was easy as shit in DaS, but the +10 component was a bitch from what I remember.
There's only a limited amount of chunks that are guaranteed per playthrough and the wolves have like a 4% drop rate. By the time you get to depth 5 and start farming the best gems, you'll have no need for them. Even then, you're still stuck farming amid a sea of shit gems hoping for one that isn't retarded. The gems that the game gives you are shit in comparison.
You have more in common with that potato than you think, anon.
5707d1 No.17029
I loved DeS and DaS. They are two of my favorite games. The bleak atmosphere, intriguing level design, harsh punishments, and mystery were what I liked most. I also disliked DaS2. A lot. Because it lacked those things, I played it once and never looked back. I don't have a PS4 and I haven't watched footage of Bloodborne or read reviews. I was hoping I could get opinions of Bloodborne from people who share my opinions of the first three. I don't feel like I can trust reviews.
811e7d No.17036
>Central Pthumeru Root Chalice
>First Boss are The Watcher
>dis_gon_be_ez.jpg
>Still can't kill them after the 20th attempt
Is this what hell is like?
811e7d No.17037
>Martyr Logarius
>Ludwig's Holy Blade
df9ce0 No.17087
>>17037
>Finally buy Bloodborne (digital copy)
>30 hour download time remaining
Yeah my internet is ass.
Fuck fuck fuck. How can I possibly wait 30 hours that's like next fucking century. The worst part is the download lets you play a bit of the game when it reaches the 5gig mark, so I got to play up until Father Gascoigne before reaching a gate that said I needed to install the rest before being able to continue. Playing the game briefly like this has made me that much more rabid to play the rest and this wait is honestly killing me.
I left no stone unturned up to that point and searched the shit out of Central Yarnham. I'm really impressed with the level design in terms of layout, probably the best I've seen so far in Souls. Graphics are a bit disappointing thus far, however my television I'm currently playing on is one of the shittiest televisions in the world and it makes PS4 games look like PS2 games. Combat is very nice and seems to be the best so far in the series. World aesthtic is nice and atmosphere is dense, but knowing beforehand that the game doesn't have as much as Dark Soul's variety is a minor downer. Also knowing that there are far fewer weapons and armors reduces the reward of the exploration factor and makes the world feel a bit more empty, despite being so intricately crafted (truly a work of art). So far I've played it completely offline because I'm still waiting for the rest of the download and update of course.
But yeah, LOVING it so far. I died once to Cleric Beast and I beat Father Gascoigne on my first try (am I gud?). I can see that this will probably become my second favourite in the series after Dark Souls 1 but it's obviously still way too early to call. First impressions says second best though and the love is most certainly there. I love this, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 tremendously; DaS2 not so much.
df9ce0 No.17104
>>17087
>Still 27 hours left
ffs. This is like being in fucking purgatory
df9ce0 No.17105
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>>12294
It's apparently not too hard to parry heals. Watch this full video. Same concept as parrying online as the previous games.
df9ce0 No.17160
Thing finally downloaded.
I've beaten Bloodstarved beast. After that I returned to the Cathedral, found myself a Rune. How do I equip the runes?
Then I went outside the cathedral and this fucking thing killed me, and I awoke somewhere else (can't remember the name). Got my ass kicked in this weird place and I keep reawakening there. It's hard here, don't have many blood vials left, like 12.
What do? Taking a break now. Who the hell said this shit was casualised? Christ.
Also I don't know what to level up, in terms of strength or skill. I chose the axe. I wanted to make a dex build but this thing scales best with Strength (only a D though). Should I just go with a strength build for my first time?
Loving this game man.
811e7d No.17166
>>17160
You have to go to a place called Hemwick Charnel Lane, it's to the left of the Grand Cathedral where you find Vicar Amelia.
You're in the Hypogean Gaol, having been killed by the Snatchers now in your world. You're probably not strong enough to fight them, so it's best to just run to the top of the area, light the lantern and return to the Hunter's Dream. From there, go back to the Cathedral Ward and go up the elevator that unlocked and get the radiant sword hunter badge if you want Ludwig's Holy Blade for a pure strength/ quality build.
df9ce0 No.17182
>>17166
Yeah, thanks, I did all that on my own nigga. Last boss I beat was the witches.
Game is so fucking great. Haven't had this much fun since Dark Souls 1 first playthrough. Literally a gaming orgasm.
Thanks for telling me what the badges do. I've already acquired the Ludwig Blade. So used to the Axe by now though but LB does so much more damage.
I can't get the the Hunter's Dream theme out of my head. That violin, fucking beautiful.
df9ce0 No.17190
eh, what does insight do?