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If you like fighting games, the smash doc is pretty good. There's a 30 second politically correct segment but you can skip through it when you come to it. It's cool to look back on ten plus years of such a complex game.

>>12256
Smash isn't a fighting game, it's a party game.

This one was pretty enlightening.

>>12306
This is the board withOUT shitposting.

>>12306
They are aware of it being a party game and not being intended as a competitive game. It's mentioned multiple times by various players in the documentary.
Also, WIFE is super awesome in that docu.

Melee just so happens to be complex and fun enough to play it competitively regardless of it's creators intentions.

>>12229
Ecstasy of Order: The Tetris Masters is a neat documentary about Tetris. I just wish they had taken more time for the TGM series.


The King of Kong is a really good documentary about old arcade games in general and Donkey Kong and highscores specificly.
Everyone even remotely interested in vidya should watch it.

>>12309
He's right thou, it's more of a hybrid between a brawler (for obvious reasons) and a party game (item variation, lives, no health bar)
That has been discussed many times and to be honest is not shitposting but it's a highly triggering statement for Smash/Nintendo fans because it bothers their status
And it shouldn't because while it's not a fighting game in the specific sense of the word it shouldn't mean you can play it in a competitive way

>>12443
>He's right thou

No, it's just being antagonistic for the sake of it.
Claiming a game entirely about fighting isn't a fighting game is just silly and purely agenda driven.

It's like saying a RTS game without base building isn't a RTS game.

>>12447
I see, you got triggered
OK for example Final Fight, Spikeout, Def Jam and WWF No Mercy are about fighting, no doubt about that right?
But they aren't fighting games in the strict sense of the genre, they are brawlers and wrestling games

A wrestling game is one in which you move in an arena and you perform several moves, normal or contextual, until you submit your opponent. He might have a health bar in which you can weaken him to make a submit easier or a crazy momentum/stamina/etc bar/meter to know where to make the finishing move

A brawler game is one in which you get several tough guys in front of you and you beat them until they get out of the screen while you continue your path, they can possess health bars or damage meters to drain them and they can even be taken out with contextual moves or if you get rid of them from the screen. Sounds familiar?

Come on, no shitposting in both ends of the field here, it's just healthy discussion. The thing is some people, which i hope you are not, are not interested to hear and just close themselves in badly-imposed tags to make them feel more respected due to the name/fame of the tag/genre.
I think they should just compete and make themselves be respected on their own, which i think can be easily done because Smash is a tough game to compete due to the high amount of people and their time training

>>12448
It's hard of not thinking you're just baiting when you use bullshit words like triggering when someone disagrees with you.

Brawlers are wildly different. They have level progression, bosses and are against the CPU.
That does apply to some game modes in Smash.

>to make them feel more respected due to the name/fame of the tag/genre

It rather seems like some people in the FGC want to discredit Smash by claiming it's not a fighting game for the sole reason of getting rid of Smash from big tournaments like Evo to make spots free for their favourite game or at least one they can use their existing set of skills on.

Claiming the Smash community seeks out the respect of senpai SRK or who ever is assinine. It's a statement to portray the Smash community as looking for legitimization they don't need and weren't looking for from the people who play "real" fighting games as by their definition of the genre.

It's shouting "no true Scotsman" because of one unique game mechanic.

>>12448
Tell me, if you altered say, Street Fighter 2, to have a health bar design and finishing moves similar to a wrestling game, but retaining all the other factors that are inherent in SF2, would it become a wrestling game?

What type of game is Aggressors of Dark Kombat? Wikipedia lists it as a fighting game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQXR1f1aonA

For the record, Wikipedia also lists wrestling games as fighting games.

Party game doesn't fit as a descriptor for smash bros. It doesn't involve passing turns around, it doesn't involve minigames, it doesn't involve a board of some sort. It isn't listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_party_video_games

For multiplayer games whose focus is on defeating a small number of opponents that use options also available to you in melee combat on the same screen with local multiplayer or online multiplayer that is identical presentation-wise to local multiplayer, fighting game is a perfectly appropriate descriptor which smash bros fits in, not to mention wrestling games.

The only reason people try to out smash bros as a fighting game is to put it in a category similar to other games they do not include as fighting games, like the dragon ball Z games, or wrestling games. They do this because those games are of low quality, and they want to imply that because smash bros is not a fighting game (rigidly sticking to the conventions and control scheme established by SF2) it is similarly low quality.

>>12434

I can recommend Ecstasy of order and The King of Kong.

If you happen to enjoy those two as well I can also recommend Chasing Ghosts: Beyond the Arcade

Frag - A pro Gaming Documentray is nice if you are into FPS