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>>14542

I'm certain the intro stage teaches you wall jumping. How the fuck did you skip that?

>>14634

His friend lent it to him, and he said he started at Chill Penguin. Maybe he had a code or something that let him skip the stage.

>>14527

>What annoyed me even more about ZX was that the design of the model looked nothing if X and Zero were combined.

Goes for all of the other models (they all had 'X' in their name, but none of them resembled X at all). Hx, Px, etc… Where was X in any of them? And then the X gets taken out in ZXA, and now they look less like their originals and more like bastardized copies.

>If they were going to include X as a side character, at least make him the antagonist that you get to face rather than making him a barely non-existent character.

This was the original script. The Zero series was originally going to follow X5's "bad ending". Neo Arcadia would've been created (and ruled over) by the original X, and you'd fight him at the end (instead of "Copy" X). Inafune copped out and changed him to Copy X. (Not sure on the exact reason. Probably worried about backlash for making X evil, although X6 could've had a role.) Although I don't really mind X being shafted in the Zero games. He's no longer the title character and doesn't need to have a significant role. He really only bothers me in Z2 when he basically just floats around and babbles for no reason, but I consider Z2 a joke overall.

>>14534

What makes it even more hilarious is that Model Z was mind controlled in the first game by Serpent (when you fight Giro, aka old man Zero archetype). It could've been used as a callback / explanation if it wasn't just another excuse to fight Zero *again* in this goddamn series. The whole of fuck-all consistency with biometals is what really kills the plot in these games.

>>14638

Yeah, I typically play X1 with a code to skip the intro stage and start with the leg dash (so I don't have to go after Chill Penguin first). Of course, going after the other stages without the dash is surprisingly a fun challenge.

>>14643

>Goes for all of the other models (they all had 'X' in their name, but none of them resembled X at all). Hx, Px, etc… Where was X in any of them? And then the X gets taken out in ZXA, and now they look less like their originals and more like bastardized copies.

Its mainly because model ZX is the main model that Vent and Aile use throughout out the whole series while the other models are quietly forgotten in ZXA and what annoyed me was that other than the double buster shot, there was nothing that Model ZX had that resembled X at all in the slightest not to mention the design simply being Zero with a jacket. I a

>Although I don't really mind X being shafted in the Zero games. He's no longer the title character and doesn't need to have a significant role. He really only bothers me in Z2 when he basically just floats around and babbles for no reason, but I consider Z2 a joke overall.

Eh I'd disagree and say it bugs me quite a lot because most of the time you always hear "The legendary hero X" or "Master X" from most reploids but in reality X is nothing more than a useless cyber elf which pisses me off. I actually like the Zero series and I think its a lot more consistent quality wise compared to the X series and I actually really enjoy the Zero series gameplay over the Playstation X games. I wouldn't really have an issue with Inafune if he at least made Zero the main protagonist rather than creating X and discarding him to push Zero into the spotlight.

Each to their own I guess.

>>14638

Theoretically possible, but who starts a new game they've never touched before and know nothing about with a special code? How would he even get the code without learning anything else about the game? If he was purely used to NES Mega Man, why would he expect there was an intro stage to skip at all? Not to mention how little sense it makes to want to skip the intro the very first playthrough.

"Hey bro, I know nothing about this game, not even its most essential mechanics, but can you give me a code to skip stuff I don't even know it has yet?"

>>14667

Yeah I also disliked the use of cyber-elves and e-crystals in the Zero series and would've preferred something similar to the armour system in the X games and disliked collecting data disks, leveling up weapons or crafting them so that's the only part I dislike in the Zero games. I also disliked Weil and Elpizo as the primary villains, I'd prefer it if Copy X was the main antagonist throughout the game and it would have been interesting to see him grow as a character for a final battle with Zero. Would have been far more interesting.

>>14825

Yeah that would've been very interesting and I would have definitely enjoyed the Zero series a lot more compared to the X series if that's how it would have been played out.

The elf-armour for X sounds like a really mechanic. Also yeah Zero should have been upstaged a lot more, I guess he keeps dying for more action.

>>14846

About special weapons, I actually used them when they were fun and useful.

See X5 for example, the special weapons in that game had good ideas but were absolutely useless. See Izzy Glow's special weapon, a missile that leaves a trail and can potentially kill a boss using only one shot and it holds you in place so it's horrible if you want to use it on a common basis. A lot of the time the special weapons ARE the hassle and it's more fun to just use the buster.

>>14846

I've avoided special weapons 97% of the time aside from exploiting boss weaknesses since the NES days. Not to make the games harder, it's mostly just that if I have a finite ammo weapon and an infinite ammo weapon, I consider not having to worry about ammo whatsoever a HUGE plus. Special weapons tend to be more gimmicky and very hit-or-miss in practice, if not just a huge pain, and are more likely to just bounce off of particular enemies, whereas the buster is very consistent and reliable, and of course, doesn't consume ammo. Even if running out of ammo is probably not gonna happen, it just, I dunno, bugs me. I always wanted special weapons to have infinite ammo for that one reason only, and making the special elemental attacks not use ammo in the Zero games is the one and only change in them I considered an improvement.

Also, purely in terms of in-universe logic, I never really understood why Mega Man can generate infinite power for buster shots, can assimilate other weapons by design, but can't just apply whatever powers his buster to the special weapons.

>Only Japan got this commercial

>no other country saw this and said "wow we should translate this"

>why live ;_;

Imagine how fucking cool it would be to be a kid in the 90's, waiting for your show to come on and then YOU YOU SEE THIS AWESOME SHIT?

>>14846

>So, official Zero-bashing thread?

Incidentally. I thought I was the only one till I found this place

>Can't say he bothers me — quite the opposite. I always liked Zero a lot and was fucking hyped as a kid with the idea of finally playing as him freely. And then MMZ came along and only further cemented my liking for him.

I grew up loving him all the same, but when I realized X was getting less love and development because of him, I started to resent how much he was pushed to be "the guy"; that incident with the MvC3 costume was the catalyst. Besides that, even with how cool he was in the games, I still liked X more despite his virtual character assassination in comparison.

>And where did you get that from? That's never stated in the game. Zero says that to enemy Mega Men; X plays almost no part in that scene.

I know X wasn't in that scene. I'm just ragging on the fact that Zero gets the big hero/sacrifice moment yet again, even as a Biometal. Besides that, the implication that Model Z "knows more about Biometals" seems odd, since if Biometals have any connection to Cyber Elves, then X would be the only to know that a bit better, considering he's been one and Zero hasn't for all we know

Then again, another anon made the point that when Giro had Model Z and was taken over by Serpent, he probably got something from that experience, so there's that too.

>lol, no fucking way

Given a choice between having to listen to the cast of ZXA and X4, I'd pick X4. They're both bad, but at least X4 has less talking and better cutscenes. Besides, if you want deliciously over-the-top, X4 had Sigma and Wily.

>Anybody else here that barely does that anymore?

I typically stick to the Buster for the same reason, but finding handy uses for special weapons and learning to switch them on the fly looks like fun. Watching someone else speedrun a stage with no damage and using weapons underlines how efficiently they can be used to get through stages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKSbdL34QM

>>14861

It would've been fucking amazing, dude. Mega Man always got better press overseas, it sucks, but I spent most of my early days on the internet looking for stuff like that.

Commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtkzHQ6UZeE

Theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSkuqvvvAVE

>>14861

It would have been cool, but you know the rule about old video game commercials in the US. They absolutely cannot take the game they're advertising seriously and/or advertise it in a way consistent with its internal presentation. It had to be goofy costumes and bad jokes and horrible raps back then. Anything but showing what the game itself meant to convey.

Commercials these days are more accurate to their games, but unfortunately the games themselves have become something I don't care as much about anyway.

>>15027

>Commercials these days are more accurate to their games

No way anon, ever since Final Fantasy VII video game commercials are nothing but glorified movie trailers that tell you absolutely fuckall about the game they're representing.

>>14365

Are you me?

>>15082

Oh shit. I remember that Mega Man commercial from back when it was on TV.

>>15082

>let's celebrate Mega Man's 15th anniversary with a bunch of trashy non-Mega Man games

Fuck I remember being just as mad as that commercial as I am now.

>>15109

It's still better than celebrating his 25th anniversary with no games and a crappy fangame endorsed by Capcom.

>>15163

I dunno… At least they've stopped raping the fuck out of Mega Man for a while now that Inafune is gone.