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ab0edb No.1665[View All]

Welcome one and all to the Smash Brothers thread for /svidya/!

I'd like for this thread to be used to discuss all games of the franchise (including mods such as, but not limited to, Project M and Brawl Minus) I'd like for civil discussion to happen here without bullshit like ">LIKING A MOD" or ">SM4SH >NOT PM"

I think it'd be easiest to start off the thread by asking…
Who's your main and why?
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97f53f No.13733

>>13630

Dark Pit is from Kid Icarus Uprising and Lucina is from Fire Emblem Awakening, both games for the 3DS. They play almost exactly like their clone counterparts, so Im assuming that their appeal comes from their games.

b99ffd No.13799

File: 1429109035806.jpg (227.08 KB, 685x525, 137:105, Ice Climbers' Hammers.jpg)

I loved Ice Climbers as a kid, but when I started getting interested in the competitive side of things, I started leaving them behind because I didn't think I could develop the tech skill to do all the fancy shit with desyncing and wobbling and chaingrabbing and all that.

I've decided that I was tired of not playing a character I used to love just because I didn't think I was good enough, so I've been grinding out IC tech practice in Melee and Balanced Brawl the past few weeks.

I can't believe how much fun it is! A lot of the normal shit I did as a kid is still needed to play ICs well, but the advanced techniques add a whole new level to the game that I've just been missing out on all this time. Downside is that my friends are starting to really hate me lol.

I'm more upset than ever before about them being gone from Smash 4 now.

114423 No.13811

>>13733
Oh, right.
I wasn't thinking about that because I don't know anything about Kid Icarus or Fire Emblem in the first place.

>>13799
There is a good chance of them coming back as DLC at least.
The 3DS can, supposedly, not handle the both of them so they aren't in Smash 4 alltogether as they wanted the same characters in both versions.

I still don't really believe that argument, though. Why can the 3DS handle four players playing Rosalina & Luma but not the Ice Climbers?
Seems like an excuse to me.

97f53f No.13834

>>13811
>Why can the 3DS handle four players playing Rosalina & Luma but not the Ice Climbers?

This. Im not a fan of the Ice Climbers, but I don't see why they can't function in SSB4.

b99ffd No.13848

>>13811
>>13834
Some people think it has something to do with the fact that Nana's AI is more complex and that she'd be a more complex model than Luma or the Pikmin.

7f0605 No.13855

>>13848
Nana's AI is very simple. When she is apart from Popo, she tries to get back to Popo. When they are together, she is controlled directly by the player.

b99ffd No.13858

>>13855
Actually, she will attack and recover in slightly complicated ways when separated if she runs into an enemy. I still don't know that I buy that there was no way to make it work on the 3DS, but Olimar and Rosalina don't really prove anything.

e0e666 No.13864

One of these days I'm going to try out SD Remix. I really like PM but I just want to see how others would approach balancing Melee.

af4d6e No.13865

>>13855
It's not even kind of that simple a little bit in Melee. Have you ever actually played as Icies?

fb4d3b No.13871

Is there any way to easily share maps with you guys?

712df7 No.13873

File: 1429142709502.jpg (351.49 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1429136132215.jpg)

So what are your guys' thoughts on Mewtwo?

ab0edb No.13877

File: 1429143230664.jpg (164.82 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, daaaamn samus.jpg)

>>13873
He's the Akuma of Smash with a focus on his trick plays. Disable and Confusion are absolutely necessary to use in combat and cannot be shunned as much as people would like them to. Shadow Ball is incredibly important, and using Mewtwo's specials is mandatory. His normals, for the most part, are too risky and incredibly weak when compared to how open you are if you whiff an attack. His aerials are fantastic and are his second greatest assets. He's overall a fantastic character who I can see being a threat from competitive players in the future.

712df7 No.13888

>>13877
I saw some complaints about how floaty he is, but I think it makes a lot of sense for his character. As a clone of Mew, he should naturally feel floaty. That ability to stay in the air without use of more ups like Kirby or Pit, helps nail aerials a lot for me. It's feels really good and I tend to play him primarily in the air so far, and it's a nice change from my main of Mega Man, who also has great aerials but is heavier in the air I think.

Need to experiment with the specials more. Shadow Ball is good, but I wish it did damage while charging like Lucario's. And disable being a projectile hurts it a lot. My first match as against a Link who could block it just by standing there.

f800fb No.13889

>>13873

What's the deal with Mewtwo being free to some people? Did I have to register with Club Nintendo or something?

712df7 No.13891

>>13889
Yeah. Myself and other people got him today because we bought and registered with CN both versions of Smash. He'll be available for purchase in another two weeks I think for everyone else.

8820cc No.14234

>>11273
Not a very good tourneyfag apparently.

436723 No.14244

>>13269
>Link
>already play the DAILY DOSE
>Edgy Pit
>Marth
>FOX ONLY ect.
>GLORIOUS SLAMMINDORF

>>13877
I pretty much agree with your analysis here.

065b7b No.14406

I found out you can just jump out of mewtwos side b if you get caught in it. What the fuck? Does this move literally have no use aside from projectile reflection?

ab0edb No.14525

>>14406
Mewtwo's side-b can lock you into two different options. Jump out leading to give Mew2 space to charge shadow ball or chase you, or take the drop and grab/disable. It's not bad at all, people who play Mewtwo just have to have a plan with what to do after confusion.

9fb68f No.14532

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Is Mewtwo really any better than he was in melee? I know he kinda sucked with his moves not even connecting and a throw that was terrible, but did he get better?

Looks pretty cool to use.

af4d6e No.14539

>>14532
Not really that gr8 but usmash uthrow uair and bair are bretty gud. I'd give him a C+

454df7 No.14785

>>13891

I couldn't register my Wii U version anymore because I was a day late.

Really fucking great of Nintendo to have the codes expire now and having the Wii U code expire way sooner than the 3DS one.

At least it doesn't look like I would like Mewtwo. He seems terribad.


ffd75d No.15128

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i cant figure out who these two characters are. are they fire emblem people who arent in the roster?


712df7 No.15143

>>14785

Sounds like sour grapes man. That does suck that they expired so fast though.

>>15128

Top is Chrom. I don't recognize the bottom girl at all. Artist self insert would be my guess.


bf41f1 No.15144

>>14532

>captain_falcon_looks_towards_the_sun

He's not looking towards the sun, you can clearly see it's off to the side by the shadows on his face.


97f53f No.15145

>>15143

>>15128

The girl is Wii Fit Trainer.


712df7 No.15153

>>15145

That is a seriously pisspoor way of drawing her. I would never have guessed if you hadn't told me.


af4d6e No.15156

>>15153

With only two colors in the palette, there's no other way to draw her. I recognized her immediately, you just have shit spatial recognition m8.


0308f1 No.15164

I main Villager because I predicted he'd get in and I enjoy his aresenal.

My secondaries are Ganoondorf, Luigi, and Wii Fit.


0308f1 No.15168

>>13269

Toon Link

Dr. Mario

Neither

Marth

Falco

Ganondorf

>>13888

I don't have Mewtwo yet so I can't test this, but can Villager pocket Disable?


6a3e4c No.15170

>>12023

mah nigga


a47df3 No.15495

i main green villager since the demo. her moveset made me fall in love. before that i mained ice climbers.

you can reflect disable, so i guess you can also pocket it.

has anyone found a practical use for perfect pivoting besides pivot grabs?


061263 No.15624

I mostly play Link, Ike, and Robin. Link's projectiles are all really fun to mess with, and it's nice mix them up with melee attacks. I've been trying to play as him without spamming projectiles too much, though.

Ike's attacks feel so satisfyingly powerful, but I'm not that great with him. I guess I need to work on timing so I don't get punished so much.

>>13873

Is it just me, or is Mewtwo really boring to fight? Not even in a "overpowered" or "Underpowered" way, but just not fun to fight whether you win or lose. I don't know what it is about him. Maybe it's just that he doesn't really seem that cool. Characters like Sheik and Greninja are cool because they're super fast and technical. Ganondorf's cool because he's such a powerhouse, and characters like Ness or Robin have some real nice and flashy style to them, but Mewtwo just seems bland. He's not that fast and his animations don't make him look that powerful, whether or not they do that much damage. He doesn't seem like a bad character, just boring to fight.


ab0edb No.15630

File: 1430078077372.jpg (52.78 KB, 500x521, 500:521, Mewtworai.jpg)

>>15624

>>15624

I've never experienced boredom from fighting M2 or playing as M2, to be honest. My friend and I go M2 Ditto every once in awhile and it's incredibly fun. I love the whole Dark-Magic thing he has going on and wish more characters had a style similar to it. Maybe it's because of my fetish for necromancer and wizard archetypes; however I will say that I hate playing as or against Ganondorf. He's just feels like a slugish and unfun monster. Sorta like playing as a boss character who's actually terrible.


30c968 No.15708

>hanging out at a friend's house with his brother and a mutual friend

>he has the homebrew channel on his wii, which we use to play gamecube games and wii games

>after a little while playing Project M, we decide to play Brawl instead

>jesus I had forgotten how tiny the starting roster was

>start playing, it's okay/10

>unlock some characters

>each new unlock is met with everyone picking that character

>marth vs marth vs marth vs marth is kind of a clusterfuck

>we unlock luigi

>everyone picks luigi

>we decide to pick a random stage

>we get one of the shitty prebuilt custom stages

>it's called "bathtub" and is a large U with a hole at one end of the bottom, but otherwise no way to KO players unless you launch them up

>luigi's sweetspot for his up-B is incredibly easy to land in Brawl

>friend doesn't know about it

>"hey anon, how do you keep doing the scream thing?"

>"what"

>"that scream attack with luigi, how do you keep doing it? it doesn't do that for me"

>he's referring to the KREEEEEEENNNNG sound effect on luigi's sweetspotted up-B

>I don't want to spoonfeed him because it's super easy

>"there's a sweetspot on the move, dude. I'm just hitting that"

>he goes silent for a bit

>I return my focus back to the clusterfuck of four luigis running around in a bathtub

>I start using my up-B to attack him

>I hit the sweetspot on him

>he gets salty

>every single time

>he gets even more salty

>eventually kill him several times through stringing together sweetspots

>he's super angry

>the match ends, we go to Luigi's Mansion because where the fuck else would you go

>I keep sweetspotting him

>"GOD DAMMIT ANON HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THAT"

>"I CAN'T GET IT TO DO THAT, FUCK YOU TELL ME HOW YOU'RE DOING THAT"

>I can barely sit up because I'm laughing so hard


f69247 No.15814

>>14785

>At least it doesn't look like I would like Mewtwo. He seems terribad.

HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

Fucking massive ones at that. Mewtwo is really good. I was just pissed about the code thingy(still am a bit).

He's essentially somewhat of a glass cannon.

Downtilt combos into many things.

Uptilt sourspot combos directly into upsmash when the enemy is at higher percents.

The upsmash is VERY lethal and hits from the ground up.

With fast falling nair you can string together really nasty combinations and he plays a lot faster if you use his aerial attacks for better movement.

We have a potential B or A tier!

Does S tier even exist anymore after the Diddy and Sheik nerfs?


ab0edb No.15817

File: 1430264784903.jpg (37.48 KB, 576x432, 4:3, Ike takes a tea break.jpg)

>>15814

They had nerfs, but not enough nerf to make them terrible. Diddy is still A-tier thanks to his speed and Sheik is still Sheik. The only difference is that the two are slightly less devastating in terms of combos and damage. (Which is good.)

Luckily, since we have balance patches, we don't have to worry about Meta-Knight characters for too long. Diddy dominated but has seen a slight decline. He can still Hoo Hah but it's clearly not as bad.


a7a1d4 No.15968

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>>15817

Yeah, it was never a real problem that Diddy can Hoo Hah in general. My main King Dedede has a downthrow to Uair aswell and so have many other characters.

Diddy was just too damn effective with his because it worked even at kill percentages and those percentages were too low to begin with.

Having messed around a bit more with Mewtwo I'd say he's safely in middle tier where most characters are.

He can juggle really well and KOs very early but the same applies in reverse.

His teleport is the worst in the game and Disable is pretty worthless because a side smash hits in every situation a smash does. Disable may allow you to charge a smash but the smash itself can be delayed so overall a smash is often more useful.

Really situational.

On the flip side he has the by far best air dodge with it lasting 30 frames and it only having 3 of them being vulnerable at the end.

You can even use it to approach if you're not too obvious about it.

All his aerials are really good so his floatyness can be put to good use.

You better use that awesome airdodge, though. Getting hit means real trouble.

I'm fine with how he turned out.

If one likes his playstyle he's viable enough for competitive matches.

If one just plays to win and wants the most abusable character Mewtwo isn't it.

Balance is really good in Smash 4 right now.


14320e No.17538

"New Content Approaching" on the 14th of June. Sakurai will be hosting a video presentation at 07:40 PT | 16:40 CEST.

https://archive.is/e7OUu

Lucas is set to be released at 8am PT on that day so I'm guessing the video will be twenty minutes long and announcing something new.

There's also a new Wii U stage that day (and some costumes for Miis iirc).


14320e No.17642

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Grain of salt and all that.


14320e No.17643

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712df7 No.17646

>>17642

>>17643

There's all sorts of 'leaks' going around. I won't believe any of them until I see them in the direct on Sunday.


14320e No.17655

>>17646

Always the best option but there's more footage.

https://nichegamer.com/2015/06/new-footage-of-japanese-super-smash-bros-update-shows-off-more-ryu-roy-and-more/

I would link directly to the twitch channel but it keeps giving me an error.

Ryu starts six minutes or so in. Roy is at thirty-two and a half minutes in. There's loads of it but Lucas is in there as well.


14320e No.17660

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Totally didn't see those new characters coming.


d8815f No.17661

>>17660

Ryu actually looks pretty fun. It looked like he sort of played like a street fighter character.


14320e No.17672

>>17661

Apparently he's based of his SFII version and the button sequences are the same.

They were dedicated to getting that accurate (if that's right).

Also they're bringing back the Peach's Castle and Hyrule Castle stages.


d8815f No.17804

>>17672

Oh nice, I assume the hyrule stage will be wiiu only.


377f74 No.17805

>>17804

Apparently it's for both Wii U and 3DS.


d8815f No.17811

>>17805

Are they planning to shrink it? I thought that sakurai wanted to keep the stages on the 3ds small.


377f74 No.17815

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>>17811

They don't say. He does say they won't be adding many more after these ones.

Rewatching the announcement they don't specify what it'll be on (starts 6m40s) but I figure if it was for one they would have said.




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