Grand Strategy Anonymous 03/13/15 (Fri) 02:56:53 b464c7 No. 2300
Grand strategy games, nerds. What are you playing? I just lost about 6 hours to Crusader Kings without realizing it. Started a challenge run with Asturias with some /his/ podcast playing and now a hundred years on and I've unfortunately broken the muslims backs in the first two wars and spent the majority of the last century steamrolling them, making new kingdoms, and watching them go through about 13 catholic uprisings now.
Anonymous 03/13/15 (Fri) 23:08:43 155b28 No. 2543
Tried to get into EU4 again, couldn't. Too much important stuff gets abstracted which ruins the abstracted things because they don't model stuff well at all that more simulationist games like Vicky 2 can model well.
Anonymous 03/14/15 (Sat) 16:02:59 8b1c76 No. 2664
>Umayyad, bro?
Anonymous 03/14/15 (Sat) 16:13:40 b464c7 No. 2665
>>2664 I'm about 150 into mine. I just have one last duchy to take from Umayyad in a holy war, and they'll be stuck with just one county in Barecelona before getting kicked off the penisula. After that it's just forcing some of the minor powers that came to be in Toledo, Barcelona, and Protugal from some of the successful catholic uprisings. I managed to get the Petty Kingdom of Cornwall from a mother too, so I guess I'll start trying to take over Wales from there after I've formed Hispania.
And Commune of Rome is damn fun, one of the better Roman mods out there I think. The problem is that it's A. Dead and unsupported and B. Makes the game way to easy after the first few decades. The fact that you can form the Western Roman Empire, but stay as a consul and it's still technically a merchant republic sucks, because you're raking in a hundred gold per month by that point and there's no stopping the map painting when you get out of Italy.
Anonymous 03/14/15 (Sat) 20:21:53 a96a59 No. 2698
EU4, HoI4, and CK2 are all shit.NOT play them.
Anonymous 03/15/15 (Sun) 03:09:02 b464c7 No. 2737
>>2665 Well, early 900s. Formed Hispania. My son may or may not be the antichrist. My older brother became Grandmaster of the Knights Templar and then won the majority of a Crusade for Shia Byzantine Empire. So now all of Greece belongs to the Templars.
Anonymous 03/22/15 (Sun) 11:02:42 81494b No. 5711
>>2698 Thanks for the info, it helped a lot
Anonymous 03/22/15 (Sun) 12:47:39 e18c81 No. 5738
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Anonymous 03/23/15 (Mon) 18:30:10 a1273f No. 6399
>>2664 I am 281 years into my game and I already have empire way larger and stronger than all neighbours combined. Only limiting factor to my expension are truces, vassal limit and inability to freely call Great Holy War as reformed slavic pagan.
This game is too easy, considering the country I picked as starting (Moravia) was rated as hard
Anonymous 03/23/15 (Mon) 18:41:42 a1273f No. 6405
I wonder, outside of moded Parashit games, are there any grand strategies set original make belive world like Middle Earth and stuff?
Anonymous 03/23/15 (Mon) 19:26:08 faf7f0 No. 6424
>>6399 >>2664 >>2300 Paradox GSGs are notoriously easy. It's a shame there's no real alternatives that aren't buggy shit
I can only really enjoy Vicky2 anymore, I literally can't lose in EU4 or EU3 and ck2 isn't all that fun to me anymore.
Also;
>>>/gsg/ We always want more GSGers.
Anonymous 03/23/15 (Mon) 20:08:17 dc117e No. 6432
I'm into galciv 2 right now, but since I'm kinda new into the whole grand strategy thing I really don't know if it truly is/isn't grand strategy.
Anonymous 03/23/15 (Mon) 20:10:33 faf7f0 No. 6435
>>6432 I actually bought galactic civilizations when it released. I have the disk and everything.
I'd typically go for conquests since I love designing big silly ships and letting them annihilate whole fleets, but the culture/influence part of GalCiv2 is also very fun to play with. If I hadn't exhausted myself on it I'd probably play it to this day.
I also don't consider it 'gsg' as it's more of a 4x design than anything else.
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 08:52:52 faf7f0 No. 6752
1864, somehow UK is whole, Italy is formed, Germany just formed, and Russia is a massive blob. Worlds are going to collide soon. Included Russia and Germany's SoI for referenceU K
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 16:56:19 a5349f No. 6848
Need more Dominions 4 and Distant Worlds in here.
There was that recommendation image back from halfchan and if it wasn't for that I wouldn't have discovered Distant Worlds, the game Sword of the Stars 2 should've been. Probably my favorite GSG for a while now.
>>6432 GalCiv is a mostly 4x game. The way I look at the difference is that GSGs revolve around the core concepts of games like Civilization or GalCiv, but are on a grander scale and usually go about the 4 X's (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate) in various ways with the availability to do what you want.
Speaking of though, you might like Distant Worlds if you want a space empire game. I popped open a tutorial and took some screen shots of the scale. First image is the galaxy map, showing all the solar systems and sectors, and the second is a planet in one of those solar systems.
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 17:00:32 a5349f No. 6850
>>6848 I forgot /gsg/ had the image in the sticky of the recommendations. Here it is for newcomers.
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 17:25:14 c1e4fd No. 6855
Anybody know some good guides that help with long term strategy in CK2? I can play EU and Victoria no problem but can't wrap my head around Crusader Kings.
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 17:31:25 b464c7 No. 6857
>>6855 1066 start, any count in Ireland. It's Tutorial Island
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 17:32:27 a5349f No. 6858
>>6855 What do you mean? You just do what you can to make your dynasty as prestigious as possible.
>>6857 Starting in Ireland is helpful too.
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 17:40:43 c1e4fd No. 6862
>>6858 Like I understand the mechanics of the game, but I always end up fucked like 3 hours in. I'm just wondering what people do for the longhaul.
I think I'm coming at this game with the mindset I use for the other games (expansion through conflict) and that's the problem.
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 17:46:47 b464c7 No. 6866
>>6862 Try to marry your heirs to princesses of other kingdoms that you want, or if your a vassal to your lord's family so you have an easier time weaseling your way into the ruling family. Make alliances with nearby kingdoms, and preferably don't start next to Muslims since they're OP as fuck.
Anonymous 03/24/15 (Tue) 17:53:36 a5349f No. 6869
>>6862 Are you trying to wage war and pissing people off or something? Just check what rulers have shit with, like alliances through marriage and stuff. Then marry off your heirs for alliances/claims and fabricate on weak counties. You could also attempt to kill rulers/heirs or try to cause rebellion and stuff to make it easier.
I roleplay it, as in I use the traits that a character has to decide how I will play them. Maybe that'll work for you and help you figure out what you're doing? I don't know.
Here's this guide I found, I don't know if it's useful.
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Beginner%27s_guide I think most of the Irish folks use gavelkind, so if you try out one of those you need to switch as soon as possible to primogeniture or whatever it is.
Anonymous 04/02/15 (Thu) 11:31:27 e18c81 No. 10343
>>6848 >Try Aurora >it's great, love it >VB gets in my way to no end >Finally give up and try Distant Worlds >This one's in XNA I swear are space grand strat developers allergic to good toolsets and platforms? I wish Pulsar4x wasn't dead in the water.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 19:26:00 faf7f0 No. 11436
r8 my karen
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 20:24:11 b464c7 No. 11450
>>11436 Bretty good. But can you do it as Bavanid?
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 00:28:45 60b0ec No. 11497
Charles Martel would be most ashamed, Kebab has taken West Francia.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 00:34:03 93d60b No. 11498
I literally cannot improve my nation's status in V2
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 01:05:16 b464c7 No. 11503
>>11497 Once saw Scotland win a Crusade for Jerusalem. Eventually they lost to a Jihad and in 40 years all of Scotland was Shia Muslim.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 01:52:00 7e34d9 No. 11516
This is the only good grand strategy thread on any chan right now.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 23:50:43 5d631c No. 12246
>>11503 >Shia The good kind of Muslim, at least.
Scotland will remove shekel.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 00:43:34 0d89ba No. 12266
>>2698 HoI4 isn't out yet, care to explain?
I also enjoyed EU4 and CK2.
Vic2, CK1, EU3 etc. are all boss though.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 01:49:47 3938a1 No. 12289
I wish Hearts of Iron 4 would come out very soon
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 14:14:01 504ad0 No. 13162
>>12289 they say its shit…i dont mind tho, the only biggest problem its that general Winter its an actual general
there isnt a developer that can actually make a game worth play that isnt a paradox buggyfest?
there are ways to expand HoI3 timeline? i like it more than DH since its more war centred but i want to play all the 1900
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 16:13:12 14edb3 No. 13179
I always find CK2 unbalanced in the endgame (1350-1450) usually the anitpopes start stacking making it impossible for christians to stay unified, byzantium always gets kebabed hard within 100 years of starting a game, the muslims just unify and never break apart no matter the decadence forming a massive blob from spain to india and mongols just spawn infinite units before anyone can do something about it. I'st like in the start of the game everything is balanced but then small feedback loops start growing out of control and just always end up the game ahistoriclly.
Anonymous 04/12/15 (Sun) 17:10:23 faf7f0 No. 13191
Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 01:08:08 9e4fe5 No. 14721
>>2698
CK2's only real crime is the DLC policy and the optimization after Rajas of India.
EU4 is shit though.