Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 05:11:03 9379a5 No. 9149
I just finished playing pic related after finishing the first two Payne games within the last couple of weeks and I wanted to have a discussion on it. Mona only gets mentioned once in the game unfortunately but he's become and alcoholic and addicted to pain pills because of his grief. It was strange going from the ending of two "I had a dream of my wife. She was dead. But it was all right." to him throwing the picture of his wife across the room and throwing up in the sink. Also the writing wasn't as good as the first two, at points it was cheesy, like they were trying too hard to do the noir style of the first two and failing.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 05:37:23 18e87a No. 9156
Wait. I thought he was trying to get over Mona.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 05:56:46 9379a5 No. 9162
>>9156 Oh, if that is true then that makes sense. He only mentioned her name once, though which led me to believe the woman in the picture and the person he was grieving over was his wife.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 05:59:26 9379a5 No. 9163
Also, the amount of times Passos said "Bro" during the stadium chapter was horrible.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 07:43:05 ee7aea No. 9175
A Max Payne prequel would be the best. Brings the series back to new york, they can do a rookie story and also has a younger, yet to be broken Max which can make for an interesting character change to him.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 10:07:56 48811f No. 9186
I agree the dialogue was not anywhere near as good as in the previous games. Max goes from being rather poetic and brood, yet determined figure things out, to just being beaten and depressed over things he had worked out over the course of the previous game.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 11:24:57 076bd3 No. 9197
>>9186 I don't think it's a weird transition at all.
Max in 1&2 had a mission. But even after killing everything and avenging his family/lover, wont bring the loved ones back.
Now he has no mission. Nothing to live for but day to day grind.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 11:37:10 79c547 No. 9199
I don't know, the game improved a lot for me when I stopped using cover. I found cover to be a trap most of the time the way enemies tried to flank you. I really liked what they did during cutscenes with the the emphasized words and that VHS type distortion. Max was supposed be a drunk and a pill popper, and the distortions reflected what he was probably seeing. The words were this games answer to the comic book style which I thought was fine. Also how there was no subtitles for any of the portuguese being spoken because Max doesn't speak the language, giving you that out-of-place gringo feeling that Max was having. The game certainly was more Die Hard than say, Death Wish but I think it was still well done, although it didn't quite match up with the ending of 2. I haven't played in quite awhile so I really can't comment on whether he was distraught over his wife, which wouldn't make sense, or if he was distraught over Mona, which would make more sense I guess. I think the most important thing to mention here was that the gameplay was great. Dodging around and shooting people in the face felt really great to do, and really, isn't that the most important part of a video game? My least favorite part of this game though, was the cutscenes on the second+ playthrough. You CAN skip the cutscenes, but only after it's finished loading, and the loading takes much longer then it possibly should on my computer which makes me think they were artficially extending load times for some reason. Or maybe it's just optimized bad, I don't really know.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 15:37:52 b2dc50 No. 9239
>>9163 I hate support characters that don't do shit.
he could've picked a gun up at any time during the sniper scene
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 15:54:28 f76d0a No. 9242
It's the best Max Payne yet.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 15:58:08 f2f597 No. 9243
>>9175 I didn't play the Multiplayer, because I
torrented it but I can imagine how fun the gunplay would be.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 16:18:42 f2f597 No. 9246
>>9186 The later enemies with flak jackets were especially resistant to bullets. You basically had to get a headshot which meant shooting them twice in the head, once to get the helmet off and once to kill them.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 16:40:02 4c8328 No. 9253
File: 1427733602555.png (619.83 KB, 1280x718, 640:359, don't call anybody, it's a….png )
>Retcons 2, the best in the series >Max is a bitch >Characters are weak >Artificial difficulty >Max decides to get new work >He's not so grim but worse than he is in 2 >Make the characters have depth or have a new story all together >Make the difficulty genuinely difficult >Add more Hawaiian shirts
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 17:28:34 0dab79 No. 9269
>>9149 I liked to think that for all the good MP2's ending did for Max, he still was never really able to reconcile everything. He just isn't that type of guy. Maybe he got off easy from his own dreadful thoughts for a few months, but then the realities of the world started hitting him again. He was a little more open with people, but vices are his trademark, and he'll never leave those behind.
I agree on the actual dialogue writing though, there were many missteps there. But in terms of the way Max behaves and reacts to things, I feel like that was just fine. It's kind of weirdly comfy to know that despite all appearances, Max just doesn't have the strength of character to truly let something go.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 19:07:30 ee7aea No. 9309
>>9199 >You CAN skip the cutscenes, but only after it's finished loading, and the loading takes much longer then it possibly should on my computer which makes me think they were artficially extending load times for some reason. Or maybe it's just optimized bad, I don't really know. It's because some cutscenes can't/won't load the next area until a scene transition to begin rendering the next area. So you end up with 2 types of cutscenes, loading, and transition scenes, with the latter half being unskippable.
>>9269 This. The part were he dreams of his wife being dead and everything being alright is just a convenient lie he made for himself at that time. There's no way any person, let alone Max, could depend on such a coping method when he begins to realize he's truly alone again.
Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 19:53:48 f2f597 No. 9323
>>9269 >>9309 That makes a lot more sense, I can see how Max could fall back into a depression. It kind of sucked that he only mentioned Mona once, I can't remember what he said exactly, but I think it was in the graveyard chapter he mentions her.
Anonymous 03/31/15 (Tue) 03:31:09 06c8d5 No. 9488
The game was great, and the airport scene and DAT SONG alone, just made the game for me.
Anonymous 03/31/15 (Tue) 23:02:36 ee7aea No. 9739
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>9323 Yeah he talks about her at Valerie's gravestone in that chapter.
Man those chapters were the best in the game.
Here's a roundup of easter eggs in the game.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 20:24:49 f2f597 No. 12532
>>9739 Yeah, that's the scene. Thanks for the video, man!
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 21:54:45 f76d0a No. 12561
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>9488 DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH DOOSH
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 21:56:39 f76d0a No. 12562
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. It's the best Max Payne yet. Rockstar nailed it. I loved every second of it.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 22:26:18 81d71b No. 12571
>>9253 >Artificial Difficulty Where?
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 08:32:56 c94dfb No. 12682
>>9323 Unfortunately for him, Max has become defined by his loss, really. The loss of his family, the loss of potentially getting over it, the loss of Mona, then in 3 the loss of his identity and his home and then the somewhat loss of his sanity just a little.
I thought yeah, it's depressing as hell to see him still so broken up and that opening was a bit like a suckerpunch emotionally for those of us who love the series, but overall? The tone of 3 is so good. The super bright colours, the really modern text and slick effects all seem so at odds to Max's grim/dour personality that it's just genius to me. Whoever ran art direction on that game is brilliant.
Overall, OP, I think it's still the best example of a taking an existing IP and somehow managing to keep it to the spirit but without stagnating the story or rehashing old shit.Oddly if there is no Max Payne 4, I wouldn't be too sad because 3 ended on a good note.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 10:41:57 2a1c84 No. 12701
The gunplay was 10/10. The story was great, I think they took it in the right direction. The tone would have been off if it was exactly like the past two games again. They did the right thing by making the noir side a flashback. Washed up Max in an action movie he couldn't escape is best Max.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 19:01:12 262fec No. 12764
>>9197 Add to that the fact that he's drunk and fucked on painkillers in 3
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 20:36:00 c7717d No. 12781
Guys how do you get MP2 to work in Win 7 with widescreen?
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 18:48:37 f2f597 No. 14906
>>12571
I think he might have meant the enemies being bullet sponges while also being very powerful.
Anonymous 04/21/15 (Tue) 18:50:38 f2f597 No. 14907
>>12701
Fuck that part, too many enemies that fuck your shit up. And when you die you start back at the beginning.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 01:28:38 2a1c84 No. 14951
>>14907
Right? It didn't help that the game left you out out in the open, either.
Anonymous 04/29/15 (Wed) 18:34:02 6edc1f No. 15880
that mid air last stand bullshit was bullshit.
turning my legs with my gun was odd.
as was being forced to shoot the guy behind the cover when there is another standing in the open.
also fuck level design doors and fences everywhere and they all are a cutscene.