ITT: That series/franchise you know is dead but can't let go if being dead. Anonymous 03/30/15 (Mon) 20:55:54 7adfc4 No. 9333 [View All]
Has there been a franchise that you just couldn't "let go"? A series/franchise that you'd wish was still going and be alive? Whenever you play a game of that series you keep imagining what it'd be like if a new game would come out despite knowing that its dead?Legends series of Megaman and I enjoyed DMC 3/1/4. They're quite enjoyable to play, I've replayed those games today and have had plenty of fun most modern games nowadays fail to give me. Though whenever I play them I always think about the possibilities the next instalment could have with today's technology if it were utilized properly, for some reason even though I know they're both dead I still can't let go of them and really wish for there to be a sequel of some sorts for a satisfying conclusion.
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Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 02:56:18 189483 No. 11263
I've always wanted TWEWY to get a sequel, and Squeenix has always been a huge cocktease about it.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 07:11:51 3e8e5c No. 11318
>dmc >f-zero >mahvel >darkstalkers >smt >arcades >boktai
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 12:06:09 d0e40e No. 11356
>>11318 >arcades At least they are still around in Nippon.
Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 15:17:43 ab5269 No. 11388
>>11356 They're declining over there too, anon.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 03:27:16 6e74fe No. 11529
Nothing can last forever, so I'd really prefer to see things I like die with some dignity rather than end up turning into some sort of abomination being kept alive by a machine, begging daily for someone to end its wretched existence. Bioshock has been like some sort of glimpse into an alternate reality where I get to see what System Shock 3 would be like. If only the same could have happened for Thief or Hitman.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 06:52:29 7f12fc No. 11550
>TFW there won't be a Mother 4 that isn't fan made.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 11:10:55 316182 No. 12430
What I hate about megaman, specially the PS1 X games is how amazing the gameplay is but how horribly done the levels, enemies and bosses are. They're all piss easy and the games just end in a mere hour.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 13:30:08 13f830 No. 12449
>>12430 >how horribly done the levels, enemies and bosses are. Really? I'd disagree and say the levels and enemy placement is done well throughout the X games (excluding X6, that game had awful level and enemy/boss design) along with the bosses being quite fair (though some are just way too easy).
I can agree with that though that's probably due to the rock paper scissors nature of most of the Megaman games which tend to make each game a cakewalk to go through. Its why I am thinking of doing buster/sabre only runs because the bosses are a lot more challenging.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 13:46:41 316182 No. 12450
>>12449 X4 is also piss easy with buster only/no armor runs
X5 only gets really fun and challenging if you play it on Xtreme, use no armors(that includes Fourth/Force armor) or upgrades and even then it's only for a few bosses like Bolt Kraken(Aka Infinity Mjinion but actually fun and fair) and the fire TRex dude whatever his name.
My problem with the PS1 games is how lazy everything is. They recycle a lot, some of sprites feel very lazy in their animation(This is really present in X6 with Rainy Turtloid), how some levels feel phoned in, and so on.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 14:00:11 7adfc4 No. 12451
>>12450 In all honesty I didn't actually like the PS1 X games that much compared to the SNES X games. They were decent but most of the time they felt bland and "empty" if you kind of understand what I mean, I was also disappointed in them using pre-rendered stage graphics rather than creating them as sprites from the ground up since most of the stages just aren't that memorable.
I'd honestly like to see an X game done in 3D properly (X7 was awful but had potential to be good) and would like to know what the game will be like. I honestly think X8 should have taken X7's approach and improved on it rather than just going back to what works.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 14:42:19 316182 No. 12455
>>12451 Sorry for talking too long between replies, was showing my sister Gurumin.
I feel like the reason why the PSX games weren't so good is because they introduced Zero as a playable character and had to end up having these very bland stages and weapons so that both characters can have a shot.
X6, while having horrible level design half the time felt more suited to X(besides the gate stages) because Zero was overpowered as shit and a secret unlockable character. Plus when X6 had good level design(Wolffang, Metal Shark Player Yammark, Turtuloid without nightmare dark) it was pretty good.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 14:58:42 316182 No. 12460
>>12455 Anyways as for X7, the execution was horrible. Despite having some pretty nice soundtracks and a variety of ride armors the way they handled it was horrible. I'd like to think a 3D X would play something slightly similar Cloudbuilt but with more of an emphasis on fighting or Vanquish with a vertical element, more firepower and more speed.
Megaman Zero would be easily done as a devil may cry-ish type of game, if there's one thing I have to give that isn't audio related to X8 it's the Z Knuckles and the entirety of Zero's weaponry.
Axl I guess would play a bit more stealthily, something like MGS but again more of an emphasis on fighting and deception, I'd love to use the A-Trans in unique and fun ways to mess with enemies instead of a tool to get a secret every three levels.
Whatever they were thinking with X7 was probably infulenced by some drug. I don't know what kind of idiot thought the ridiculously clunky and slow, auto lock on infested, horribly designed and easily exploitable product was a representation of an actual 3D X game.
I don't know what is it about the PS2 X games but they have a habit of making X ridiculously game breaking, especially his third charge shot that covers the entire screen.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 15:28:58 7adfc4 No. 12465
>>12455 >I feel like the reason why the PSX games weren't so good is because they introduced Zero as a playable character and had to end up having these very bland stages and weapons so that both characters can have a shot. Another reason I highly dislike Inafune apart from many other things was that at the start of X4 and up to X7, was when X got pushed out of the spotlight and if anything there was a larger focus on Zero who had a better back story and if anything I felt that the stages were more suited towards Zero rather than X since most of the enemy placement was ideal for someone who engaged in close range combat compared to someone who participates in long ranged combat not to mention the Z sabre doing more damage than the X-buster.
Heck look at the opening stage of X7, you don't even play as X and have to unlock him later on.
Despite it having horrible level design, I actually liked playing through X6 compared to X4-5 since it felt as if it was a game made for X rather than Zero along with its really good soundtrack.
>>12460 >Whatever they were thinking with X7 was probably infulenced by some drug. I don't know what kind of idiot thought the ridiculously clunky and slow, auto lock on infested, horribly designed and easily exploitable product was a representation of an actual 3D X game. I really don't understand that either, I am probably guessing there was a really impatient producer who's sole focus was to make money and rather than testing the game to make sure it works properly and doesn't run like a mess, it instead just got to shelves.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 15:41:36 50c787 No. 12467
>>9558 Definitely this. It's sad, must suck extra bad having this wait for the people who played HL2 on release, I didn't play it until a few years after it came out and now I hate not having a HL3 to wrap it all up.
Also, L4D3. It's my most played PC game since I had steam, but it's kinda dead now and pretty old, it would really benefit from a sequel, and in one hand it looks likely, in the other it looks like valve couldn't give a shit about games any more because "Muh steam machines" which is just sad.
Also, Max Payne. The Max Payne series is my favourite game series of all time. Hell, the original Max Payne was the first PC game I ever played IIRC and I instantly loved it, remember going out on launch day and spending all of my savings to get Max Payne 2 on the PS2 and playing it constantly. 3 got a decent amount of hate, but even though it didn't have the same setting as the original games, I still absolutely loved it and thought it was awesome. I know the story doesn't really have anywhere to go from here and that MP3 didn't sell well, but god damn, I would love it if we had a Max Payne 4.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 15:53:26 f0d819 No. 12470
>>12430 The X series ended with X3 for me. Mega Man games took such a nosedive in quality when Capcom transitioned to the Playstation that it killed the whole franchise for me.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 16:49:28 7f8ef3 No. 12485
>>9333 I'd love to see another Tyrian shooter game. Not a slick, realistic-looking type like Ikaruga or whatnot, but maybe something nice and eyepopping like Gradius V, but top-down and with that classic frenetic DOS music of ROTT calibur.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 17:09:34 7f8ef3 No. 12492
>>12455 >I feel like the reason why the PSX games weren't so good is because they introduced Zero as a playable character and had to end up having these very bland stages and weapons so that both characters can have a shot. >>12465 >Another reason I highly dislike Inafune apart from many other things was that at the start of X4 and up to X7, was when X got pushed out of the spotlight and if anything there was a larger focus on Zero who had a better back story and if anything I felt that the stages were more suited towards Zero rather than X since most of the enemy placement was ideal for someone who engaged in close range combat compared to someone who participates in long ranged combat not to mention the Z sabre doing more damage than the X-buster. >Heck look at the opening stage of X7, you don't even play as X and have to unlock him later on Yeah, as cool as Zero is to play as and look at, I feel like splitting design between him and X diluted the whole experience. X had a solid gameplay model for him with the armors, charging weapons, and the new dash ability, but at the same time Zero showed up as a playable character in X3–which was awesome–X stopped growing like he did from X1 to X2, and he became a less desirable character in his own franchise. His armor designs became boring as fuck and split between two armors to four armors, and it wasn't until
X8 that he could finally airdash. That's pretty fucked, and I never liked how Inafune's Zero boner fucked with the X series by the time the X games ended with X8. He's said before that he wanted to revisit the X series, but considering his greatest change to Maverick Hunter X was to add Vile as a playable character, he can go fuck himself.
And for fuck's sake, did they get lazy with the armor designs in the Playstation series. Who gives a shit about choosing between flight and power when you can just unlock the Ultimate Armor in every single goddamn title. Then they decide to just make X more like Zero and give him his saber in X6, complete with matching armor upgrades. Oh, but he can only do one big slow swing that's recycled from Zero's swing move in X4. Absolutely pathetic.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 17:14:57 316182 No. 12494
>>12492 Not to mention in X8 X's armors are so god damn bland, it's either a red or a grey(? I can't remember) recolor with a logo tacked on and their powers weren't so interested.
I liked the idea of choosing between power or flight but with X5 they had the stupid idea of having the already powerful Force Armor unlocked from the start and with X6 I'd argue normal X is actually the best because his charge shot is better and because Shadow Armor is gamebreakingly powerful to the point of no fun/
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 17:40:27 f0d819 No. 12496
The "armor" shit was stupid as fuck and completely flied in the face of the original concept of upgrades and character progression from the earlier games.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 17:57:20 7f8ef3 No. 12498
Speaking of the Force Armor, did anybody ever use the Quad Shot buster upgrade instead of the Plasma Shot? It's fun.
>>12496 They were fun to find and cool to look at, though, and way more rewarding than buying items from a shop. Zero and ZX did that, along with finding data discs, and both were more boring for it. I don't want to feel like I'm playing a hardcore 2D action RPG.
Besides, if X progressed through each game with at least one new ability from his previous armor, that would've accomplished what the Mega Man games did with introducing the charged shot and sliding. That being said, eventually they were going to run out of good armor ideas and decent mechanics, so I wouldn't have minded a divergence from it in favor of building up X's abilities another way. Maybe something like the Z Knuckles or using different weapons.
Anyways, they were just as optional as those items were in the Classic series. You could've even skipped the dash upgrade in X1 if you really wanted to, but you couldn't skip the buster upgrade.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 18:08:16 316182 No. 12499
>>12498 Quad shot was preddy gud, yeah. Too bad it got replaced in X5.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 18:19:20 f0d819 No. 12501
>>12498 My point was I liked collecting upgrades in the SNES X games. Then they introduced that fucktarded system in X5 where you have to collect 4 of a thing to
even use them , and then you were always forced to choose between shit, making them not even upgrades.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 18:21:01 f0d819 No. 12502
>>12498 >You could've even skipped the dash upgrade in X1 if you really wanted to, but you couldn't skip the buster upgrade. Also it's more like, you can skip the dash if you have a password that gets you past Chill Penguin's stage. You can skip the shot upgrade but eventually you're forced to take it from Zero later.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 18:30:47 7f8ef3 No. 12503
>>12501 Oh , I thought you were pissed at the armor mechanic in general. I didn't think you just meant from X5 onward. My bad, yeah that shit was retarded too, and I think it was done entirely to allow Zero to pick up X's upgrades without them being applied to him, which hamstrings playing as X even further. Zero fucking killed the X series just in time for MMZ to arrive on the scene.
>>12502 I'll have to boot up ZSNES to verify. I'm almost certain you can wall-jump over the Light capsule in Chill Penguin's stage.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 18:51:24 e6574b No. 12508
Never Forget
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:00:37 71520b No. 12509
>>10385 Only good thing in Lufia's remake is Idura, who look more like the scheming bastard he is. But then again…
>>11051 … Taito is part of Squarenix nowaday, this should explain a lot.
Also… why no more Grandia? And Romance of the Three Kingdom or Uncharted Waters, Koei?
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:09:53 bbdc1e No. 12511
>>12509 >Romance of the Three Kingdom Last one came out three years ago.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:16:33 71520b No. 12513
>>12511 In a non moonrune language?
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:40:52 bbdc1e No. 12519
>>12513 There's an English patch. I thought XI was better anyway - XII felt like a downgrade.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:43:04 71520b No. 12521
>>12519 … The more you know… thanks!
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 19:57:57 dfec08 No. 12523
>>12519 Any idea where I can find it? I loved that series.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 20:17:01 f0d819 No. 12527
>>12509 Believe it or not, the wonderful Space Invaders Extreme games were made after Taito was acquired. I can't stand that Squeenix owns them now, but
so far at least , it seems it hasn't been detrimental to them.
Anonymous 04/18/15 (Sat) 08:48:40 ce70bb No. 14425
Chrono series is dead and only gets remakes Cross is the first one I played, MM is dead and the only thing I wanted was MML3 for closure, and Shenmue just for kicks because I got a Dreamcast really late, I finished the DC one, and played through about halfway on Shenmue 2, but Sega doesn't seem to want to make the last chapter.
Anonymous 04/18/15 (Sat) 13:44:43 cc42ea No. 14443
I keep hoping for a Valkyrie Profile 3, the first two are still in my top games ever. Though I can't say I'd want a game centering on Hrist specifically, unless she got some serious character development. Lenneth is the valkyrie for me.
Anonymous 04/18/15 (Sat) 15:34:41 185c52 No. 14451
>>14443 >>14443 Tri Ace doesn't have the talent anymore to make another decent Valkyrie Profile. Hell even 2 was loaded with problems especially the first half of the game with that awful pacing
Anonymous 04/18/15 (Sat) 16:11:31 cc42ea No. 14454
>>14451 I can't say I noticed any real pacing problems with VP2. Not saying it was perfect, it did have some problems, like Seal Stones costing wwwaaaaaaaayyy too many gems to buy them all without ridiculous grinding, but also no way to know which ones were really worth buying without a FAQ, and you also needed a FAQ if you wanted to get specific Einherjar. And scaling skill learning based on average party level wasn't very appreciated. But otherwise, I thought it was great and had some excellent ideas I wish other games used more often. Call me crazy, but I found it even more fun than the original, though the first one did have the better story for sure.
You are probably right about Tri-Ace not being able to make a worthy VP3, but OP did specify series you know are dead but can't let go of. I don't expect it to happen, but I still want it.
Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 09:45:02 ed12a5 No. 14757
I know the franchise isn't "dead," but I wish Suikoden 2 had gotten some real sequels instead of slapping a good name on trash.
I also wish Rune Factory hadn't folded.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 20:35:01 3b93ef No. 15090
Remember Dungeon Keeper?
Remember Dungeon Keeper 2?
Remember that shitty mobile 'port'?
I guess two games is too short for a series, but man…
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 22:12:36 dd2c0e No. 15105
>>9463
There is a /v/ guild actually.. And surprisingly it's full of bros and not spastic people
We've had so much fun in the summer
Whisper Marche Darkblade or I Eat Turtles for an invite
Anonymous 04/23/15 (Thu) 12:04:11 86bf85 No. 15194
>>9558
You're looking at it wrong. Look, I can understand Gabe's issues with a workforce that kind of does its own thing, but I believe that HL3 is going to be the "killer app" for Source 2 and the launching of the home market consoles for Steam.
The less said about the game, the better actually. Lord know we already sacrificed Peter Molyneaux to the /v/irgin Gods because he can't keep his mouth shut.
Anonymous 04/23/15 (Thu) 12:37:44 a922e0 No. 15198
I thought Gaben was genuinely afraid of the number 3
Anonymous 05/01/15 (Fri) 09:36:03 cfb4c8 No. 16009
I still miss Command and Conquer that was one of my favorite RTS series back in the day and EA just had to kill it.
Anonymous 05/01/15 (Fri) 18:54:10 7f8ef3 No. 16028
Going through my Abandonia catalogue of old games, really feel like a King's Quest adventure I haven't played yet, so I tried Legend of Kyrandia . Looks beautiful, and the jester villain's got potential and is interesting to pay attention to, but the music is droning and repetitive, the main character's too bland, the first challenges amount to bland fetch quests for simple or obtuse puzzles, and the dialogue is okay at best. I dropped it after two sessions.
I miss King's Quest . And Sam & Max .
Anonymous 05/01/15 (Fri) 21:23:08 93562b No. 16036
>Cruisin'
>Metal Slug
>Vectorman
>F-Zero
>Unreal not including Tournament
>Mass Effect Prior to Mass Effect 3
Anonymous 05/02/15 (Sat) 00:01:46 f0d819 No. 16042
>>16036
Why do you assume that Metal Slug is dead? 7 was great and totally restored my faith in SNK's ability to make them.
Anonymous 05/02/15 (Sat) 01:58:41 733541 No. 16046
>>9515
>Freespace
So sad every time I hear this name. Those two games are probably the only ones I take time to play through fully every couple of years.
Biggest vidya wish is freespace 3
>Never fly with your wing of vesudan bros
>Never get back to sol
>Never explore the new areas of the galaxy
>Never hear opera music in space again
>Never hear that calming terran voice translating midcombat
>Never experience that sense of scale flying beside huge cap ships
>Never feel scared watching two cap ships having a beam cannon fight
>Never again avoid flak cannons while fog fighting shivans
I get by knowing that in todays vidya industry, FS3 would be made poorly, rushed for release and include numerous DLC
Anonymous 05/02/15 (Sat) 02:10:33 93562b No. 16050
>>16042
Oh shit I had no idea there was a Metal Slug 7.
Then again it did come out over 7 years ago.
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 22:28:05 ddcca1 No. 16154
>>12485
Not a top-down, but every try Jets n' Guns? It's side scroller similar to Tyrian in the way that you buy and upgrade shit after every mission and that the majority of it's weapons are fairly unique. Not always good though, but that goes without saying.
As for me,
>RIP Mass Effect
>RIP Banjo-Kazooie
>RIP Borderlands
I would say RIP Diablo, but I haven't played 3 yet or even have it. Anyone know if you can pirate it and play offline?
Anonymous 05/04/15 (Mon) 01:07:26 d0ec71 No. 16158
>>16046
I'm just sad there's been nothing like it since Freespace 2. There's space autism simulators like the X series or Elite: Always Online, but nothing like Freespace 2.
On the upside, FS2Open is still alive and fairly good with its new content.
Anonymous 05/06/15 (Wed) 17:00:46 2f8b24 No. 16291
>>16154
Nah, never heard of it, but I'll put that on my list. Thanks. Kinda reminds me of Satazius by the looks of it, although that's more a Gradius-type shmup.
Speaking of top-down shmups, Raptor's another good classic that could use a sequel.