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Bring all your hardware, software and other troubles here.

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So disabling the graphics card from the BIOS and only using the integrated didn't help. It had the same problem. Other than dmesg, are there any other Linux logs I should be looking at? I'd like to avoid doing a re-install for now if possible. If I do end up distro hopping anyway, are there any relatively stable distros I should try that don't have repositories as out of date as Mint?

Card still works fine under Windows 7.

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Looking to buy something but aren't sure what to get? Ask here.

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>G610 for sale at 60 dollars, about as cheap as MX cherry keys keyboard will ever get

>Shit feels cheap compared to my leopold despite both having the same switches

Guess you get what you pay for, huh

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...aaaaand another nignog who thinks tor browser is just firefox with with preconfigured proxy settings


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>use our privacy protecting tool

They literally keep metrics on all aspects of usage. It's an invasion of privacy.




>every big browswer has an uncountable number of vulnerabilities as well

Modern web browsers have more attack surface than any program in existence.. it's just Mozilla are way behind in sandboxing and mitigation.



i was using this on another bard, it accidentally fallowed me here



>It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2017.

>This is a snapshot of Debian "sid" at the time of the stable Debian "stretch" release (May 2017), so it is

mostly based on the same sources.

>It is not an official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release.

>The installation ISO images can be downloaded from Debian Ports (http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports-cd/hurd-i386/debian-hurd-2017/)

in the usual three Debian flavors: NETINST, CD, or DVD. Besides the friendly Debian installer, a pre-installed disk image is also available, making it even easier to try Debian GNU/Hurd.

>The easiest way to run it is inside a VM such as qemu (https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install)

>Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with about 80% of the Debian archive, and more to come!

>* The core GNU Hurd and GNU Mach packages were updated to versions 0.9 and 1.8, respectively. Besides numerous other improvements, they bring vastly improved stability under memory load and prolonged uptime.

>* The native fakeroot tool has been greatly improved, allowing to be used for building packages, making that quite faster and safer.

>* It is now possible to run subhurds as unprivileged user, thus providing easy lightweight virtualization.

>* The supported memory size was extended beyond 3GiB.


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I'm glad to see that the Hurd is still very much alive. As soon as a 64 bit port is available, I will use it full-time.




Last I checked, systemd only worked on the Linux kernel. So, no systemd cancer in GNU/Hurd, ever.



HURD is a microkernel and it's extremely modular. Theoretically, this means more security (since it has smaller surfaces of attack), more stability (if a module fails, it can be reloaded on the fly without crashing the entire thing), more performance (since binaries are smaller), the ability to load/unload modules on the fly (Linux can also do this even though it's monolithic, however); among other things.




>use gentoo

>less than 100mb of tam used in general

>open bloated browser

>between one an two gigabytes of ram used

Can someone explain why do wee need 64 bits processing for desktop ?

If only the W3C would stop being pieces of crap in their decisions and come back to a sane web architecture, browser wouldn't have to be that big and unoptimized.


What are some good Tor .onion websites ?

>in b4 hidden wiki

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Good for what?



I mean interesting.


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For Italian food.




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What shell do you believe is best, and why do you think others should use it too?

Also curios to hear if you believe anything other than bourne shell should be used for system scripting.

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mmm whatcha smea-ayy, ohh






fsh gang represent



>responding to and posting in meme arrow format



Which brings a question why there's no other JIT compiled shells around?

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>Unlimited cellular data plans aren't a standard yet

>1 Gb/s wi-fi isn't a standard yet

>10-hour full-performance battery-life isn't a standard yet

>Small-form-factor device modularity isn't a standard yet (can't even change my phone's GPU)

>GPL/BSD isn't a standard yet

>home 3d printers aren't a standard yet

>home general use robots aren't a standard yet

>augmented reality isn't a standard yet

Some future.

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>>the only people who wanted unlimited 1Gb/sec internet was people doing illegal file-trading



well, file-traders and netflix.

but netflix wants to block the file trading too, just because it might slow down their own shit

>modular phones

I dunno anyone IRL who would care really

most people just buy a new phone, because it's got "the new screen", "the new CPU", etc in it. They don't particularly know what the phone has, they just know it's new and expensive so it must be gooder than the cheaper ones



the future tech that earth has is owned by a deep shadow government. We would have had this kind of tech and much more if it weren't for them.

Seems pretty conspiratorial but its true.

Begin here if you want to start down the rabbit hole.



I don't care about any of these.


>>Unlimited cellular data plans aren't a standard yet

I always was saddened by this. This is a world controlled by jews.

You also forgot

>no cold fusion

>no colonization of mars or of the moon



>the past was indeed better

Hope you like feudalism, because that's what awaits us for the next 1000+ years!

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The long-anticipated filestore was added in 0.4.7. Now you can upload files without (significant) increase in hard drive usage.

Enable it with the command:

ipfs config Experimental.FilestoreEnabled true

And restart your daemon. Now you can add files with:

ipfs add --nocopy

It averages out to about 1MB of new data for 1GB of files added, so it's now feasible to share an entire hard drive - but it will take a while to process. I don't recommend you add too much at once, as I found you must run garbage collection to shrink your filestore.

0.4.8 released.

An experimental implementation of directory sharding is now an option. It greatly improves performance with very large directories.

Enable it with the command:

ipfs config --json Experimental.ShardingEnabled true

And restart your daemon.

WARNING: It will change hashes and is not backwards compatible with earlier versions. Only 0.4.8 users can access these files!

NAT port mapping, the infamous router-killing feature, can now be disabled with a config option.

Not really sure how to disable it, though. Here's the PR for reference. https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3798

Filestore utilities have been added.

filestore ls allows you to see which files are in your filestore and what their hash/locations on disk are.

filestore verify checks a hash to see if the file is available to seed.

filestore dups finds files in your filestore that are also in your block storage - files not added with the --nocopPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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This is the feedback thread on ipfs p2p. They even provided a helpful example:

>To enable the command, you will need to run:

ipfs config --json Experimental.Libp2pStreamMounting true

>And restart your daemon.

>Basic usage of ipfs p2p is as follows:

>First, open up a p2p listener on one ipfs node:

p2p listener open p2p-test /ip4/

>This will create a libp2p protocol handler for a protocol named p2p-test and then open up a tcp socket locally on port 10101. Your application can now connect to that port to interact with the service.

>On the other ipfs node, connect to the listener on node A

ipfsi 1 p2p stream dial $NODE_A_PEERID p2p-test /ip4/

>Now the ipfs nodes are connected to eachother. This command also created another tcp socket for the other end of your application to connect to. Once the other end connects to that socket, both sides of your application should be able to communicate, with their traffic being routed through libp2p.

>The easiest way to try this out is with netcat.



so where is the part where the keccak authors warned people not to use sha3?

protip: it never happened




>we now have fully self-sufficient clearnet address resolver for arbitrary TCP streams

These next few years are gonna be great.


I wasn't the guy who said that, I was just explaining what happened to you. Go sort through the mailing list archives yourself if you really want solid evidence of keccak authors disapproving of NITS's modifications.




I'm a bit slow, I have my two daemons and supposedly it looks like they're talking to each other, but how do I actually send a message through that open channel?



>keccak authors disapproving of NITS's modifications

never happened

>Go sort through the mailing list archives yourself

usually it is like this: you make a claim, you provide the evidence

let me greentext you the history of sha-3:

>md5 completely obliterated, sha-1 not looking so good

>people become concerned that sha-2 might become insecure soon too

>sha-3 competition started

>goals: drop-in replecements for sha2-{224, 256, 384, 512}, inner workings different from sha2

>during the competition people argued that 512-bit preimage resistance is retarded

>nist doesn't care. keeps the requirement

>keccak wins. is sha-3 now.

>nist finally realizes that 512-bit preimage resistance is retarded

>makes changes to the capacity of the keccak sponge function

just to clarify: they mad no changes to the keccak function itself, only to the capacity of the sponge construction. something that the keccak authors themselves proposed before.

>people say wtf nist. you can't just hold a competition with some requirements and then just drop those requirements

>retards say wtf nist. why do you want to backdoor sha-3?????

>nist backpedals. 512-bit preimage resistance is back.

>nist adds shake functions to sha-3 standard

tl;dr: sha-3 is perfectly secure, nists modifications were sensible, keccak authors approved, use shake-{128, 256} instead of sha3-{224, 256, 384, 512}

further reading: http://keccak.noekeon.org/yes_this_is_keccak.html

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Rust is the better language. But Go will win. Why does it have to be this way?

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literally like java but without generics



of course the "just dont write memory unsafe c/c++ code" cult




>being this retarded

use std::io::{self,Write};
fn line_flush(line:&str){
let mut stdout = io::stdout();
let mut handle = stdout.lock();
fn parse_input(x:String) -> f32{
fn main(){
let stdin = io::stdin();
let mut x = String::new();
let mut y = String::new();
line_flush("Enter a new float number: ");
stdin.read_line(&mut x);
line_flush("Enter a new float number: ");
stdin.read_line(&mut y);



>missing error handling

>allocating two strings

>duplicate code

i made a better one:

use std::io::{self, BufRead};

fn main() {
let stdin = io::stdin();
let mut stdin = stdin.lock();
let mut input = String::new();

for _ in 0..2 {
stdin.read_line(&mut input).expect("reading from stdin failed");
let number: f64 = input.parse().expect("input is not a floating point number");
println!("{}", number / 2.0);


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Because everyone hates Rustcucks, even other cucks.

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Old one's autosaging.

Pic related is my T22 running WinFLP. Batteries are both fucked and there isn't a thing as cheap T2x batteries either. That said, I fucking love this thing and the ThinkLight is awesome.

Also ordered a CF-31 Mk3 yesterday, waiting on it to come in the mail.

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Just installed the new motherboard and it's fine now.

>mfw it came in a fucking taped up pizza box



Little Caesars or Dominoes?



The box was generic and clean, so the guy probably worked at or knew somebody from a mom and pop place.



Entire new mobo? Couldn't you simply buy a SOIC clip and flash it with a programmer like RPi/BB?



It has AMD graphics which means I would have to blob libreboot, (right?) which means I would need an intact copy of the video firmware. (right?) It was cheaper anyway, but I might have a look at it later on now that I have the latter again.

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Share some tox ID's

Where the fuck is my pal edition


It's nowhere. Come back, Recharged

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ill repeat the original question.

what the fuck do i have to say to a random stranger?


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why the fuck are you contributing to a random strangers thread?



narrative cohesion.


I like to add people just to see their avatars when they change them, I like to listen to people but I never initiate conversation myself, I also don't have that much time because other people message me already. I think I need to kill myself because I can't socialise right or adequately manage my attention. I won't add anyone here just now but you can have this blog post if you want it.


Last moment bump

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Is there any use in learning about Linux? I've never had any particular desire to actually learn about Linux, other than ricing the shit out of it, typing in some commands in the terminal like inxi -Fxxx and sudo apt-get upgrade, and doing what is necessary to install programs and get them working, or to get other problems fixed.

I am not sure what /tech/ thinks of as someone who is knowledgeable about Linux. I've been using nothing but Linux since Linux Mint 14. In all that time I probably didn't learn much, because I still get reactions from people treating me like I'm a newfag whose just using Linux for his first time, even though it's been many years.

Am I just a retarded nigger monkey or is there some way that I can actually improve my linux experience by learning... whatever the fuck it is /tech/ wants me to learn about linux so I become a "linux pro user" or whatever the fuck you want to term it. I don't know if you guys just want me to fingerbang the terminal more or what.

I wish that trying to get things working in linux wasn't such a nightmare.

This stuff that I guess gives me linux cred... stuff I have done.

>I have switched desktop environments before often with disastrous results, it's better to just download another distro then to do something like try to use Cinnamon on Ubuntu

>distrop hopping, I've used many different distros

>my main computer I have Linux Mint 18.2 but with combination of stuff from KDE and Gnome and so on, and I un-installed lots of the retarded bloat

>I use OBS Studio, Blender, Krita, Gimp, Kate, Xed, gnome-screenshot, Steam, USB Image-Writer, and many other programs...

>I have spent lots of hours being a niggermonkey in #alsa

>I have electrum working on here

>I've customized the shit out of fonts and absolutely everything concerning the UI

>installed packages, updates, etc.

>I'm getting tired of writing this retarded list so I'mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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/tech/ wants you to install gentoo or linux from scratch.

You won't get better by doing something the easy way. i.e. mostly gui stuff, big buttons and crap.



God Redhat faggots have never stopped being faggots.

Any package based distro can run into circular dependency issues.

As someone who does linux as profession I used to have more issues with RPM than DEB but now I don't really see much of a difference from a sysadmin perspective thanks to YUM.



>hurrr don't use the capabilities of your cutting-edge computer to make a nice UI and efficiently organize your files and stuff

Anyways, I just want my damned hardware to actually work right now, then I'll find more stuff to complain about (like poor integration of firefox with windows managers) -- as currently non-functioning hardware is my biggest issue.



>You won't get better by doing something the easy way. i.e. mostly gui stuff, big buttons and crap.




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>redditposter thinks he represents the Canada-internet embassy.

jokes on you nigger, I don't give a shit about the house of whatever. USA and Canada are indistinguishable.

Internet rights everywhere in general are varying shades of dark gray. The bottom line is every place has a different subset of

>saying "nigger"

>drawing muhammed

>posting/watching CP

>using profanity


>"death threats"

>"hate crimes"

>talking about drugs

>"hacking" and anything that sounds or looks like it

>piracy, which is mostly anything that costs cookie cutter sellout band #515615671 (which literally has no value in the first place and is wasting people's time and money by existing) a few dollars

>bypassing "security" systems, such as DRM, and all other kinds of exotic copyright laws


the only obvious contrast for a westerner is something as "silly" as profanity/muhammed law in islam majority nations, but in reality everything in the list is literally retarded.

If you acknowledge "internet rights", you are part of the problem. The internet is a place where anyone can go read and write information. There are no rights, because you can do anything you want, and there's no problem, because you're merely doing the equivalent of writing on a giant chalkboard in the middle of the forest.

What I'm saying is that people who debate "what rights you have on the internet" are subhuman retards in their own made up world.

Nothing of any importance ever happened due to someone posting something on the internet. That alone should be enough for governments to fuck off and save billioPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



"Canada's top court rules that the universe is no longer expanding"


I predict great suffering for Canadian businesses soon, especially ones who have foreign competitors.


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Google respects enforcing censorship in other countries but is among multiple companies disregarding/eroding free speech toward American users.

Good shit, totally should let that continue to fly, yep absolutely that.


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>Nothing of any importance ever happened due to someone posting something on the internet

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At which bitrate do you download your movies?

I normally download around the 9-15GB mark that requires around 11-18MBps (Although usually 11MBps).

I keep finding comments about how remuxes at 25MBps are the real deal, but compared to the little Blu-Rays I do own there's little difference, then again those Blu-Rays aren't really big in special effects or HDR but even then some really good encoders manage to make good looking 60fps in less than 10GB.

So 25MBps or 11-18MBps.

Also, if the whole BRD has a capacity of 25GB, then the movie (Without all the extras and shit) should weight around 20GB? So I should look for 18-20GB movies in torrents.

Are 25GB> movies an overkill or are they noticeably better looking?

Also, is 10-bit encoding even worth it?

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>At which bitrate do you download your movies?

Stupid question, bitrate doesn't matter it's about how much effort the person/group put into the actual encode. Find a good release group and stick with it. Most of the stuff in the larger encode is stuff you don't even care about or see, like dust. If you watch Chinese Cartoons the bitrates can go really low and still look as good as the bluray because they have so much flat space.

Encoding is an art that has died because space and bandwidth no longer matters. No point in tweaking settings all day to squeeze out the best quality at the lowest bitrate because plebs like the ones in this thread will pass over that release for the largest one. Same people couldn't tell you the difference between FLAC and mp3 at 320kbps in a blind test but would swear they could hear the difference. Just grab whatever is compatible with whatever piece of shit you want to play it on and call it good.


>10-bit h.264

>instead of 300kbps DivX ;-) 3.11



holy shit wtf lmao



I download YIFY. There is absolutely nothing wrong with his videos.




>promoting monopolies

Don't use words you don't understand.



>24 bit


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