Battle Report
LETS REVIEW
Do not hesitate to offer critique of this interpretation or clarification of vaguery/error, included [citation needed] where applicable
TPA is in cloture, which essentially means further debate on the matter is limited to an addition 30 hours, thus circumventing the filibuster (ie the STALL IT! tactic has been defeated).
Once debate has concluded, there will be another vote by the Senate.
Should that vote pass (A vote of at least 61 Approving/no more than 39 Disproving required; today's vote regarding cloture saw 65 Approving, Tuesday's vote saw a very narrow margin of Disproving allowing TPA to be halted), it will likely have to go to the House, where it will face another battle - but, if there appears to be 'momentum' behind the legislation, its possible it may do so (and/or that arrangements have already been made for such), or that this may be circumvented altogether (clarification requested on this matter).
Should TPA pass the Senate (requiring at least 61 Approving/no more than 39 Disproving), and (if necessary) the House, the following will be the case:
> The Executive branch can negotiate trade agreements with foreign powers, according to a vague and likely-irrelevant set of guidelines set by Congress; however, once such an agreement is presented - to the Senate, but not the House (IIRC) - the representatives are restricted in how they may respond, no longer able to add amendments nor to debate in greater detail: In other words, they must vote, yes or no, on the matter.
> Further, under TPA, a Senatorial majority will be all that is required - at present, as described above, a significant majority (61 Aye/39 Nay) must be obtained; however, under TPA, a simple majority decision (51 Aye/49 Nay) will be required for approval… To clarify, TPA takes away Senatorial power to resist passage of legislation, and makes it easier to pass legislation based on vote - a double wammy for reduction in representatives' capacity for action as regards passage of legislation…
… Such as TPP.
So, to go back to the start…
TPA is in cloture.
That means a maximum of 30 hours of debate on the topic moving forward.
This, coupled with analyst insight and statements on behalf of the participants (Senators), suggests the final vote will occur sometime next week, 'hopefully' by the end of the week (these hopes espoused by those Senatorial forces hoping to pass the legislation).
It is entirely possible it will not pass… However, given the circumstances, it is unquestionable that further efforts will be made to push this piece of legislative garbage through, which isn't overtly difficult given they can simple request further votes and/or make slight alterations (to better conceal some aspects; or to include political deals within US politics, which are as-likely to be detrimental to the American people as beneficial; and which would be external to the integral aspects of TPP, which will almost-certainly remain unaltered) before reintroduction for a vote.
IOW, this shit will likely get pushed through the Senate eventually, unless a lot of stink is made over it and keeps getting made anytime it rears its ugly head…
DO YOUR PART: INFORM THE COMMON MAN
POST INFOGRAPHS HERE, AS WELL AS ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE ON TPA/TPP AND ANY RELEVANCE/COMPARISONS TO SOPA/PIPA/ETC.-STYLE PROPOSALS OR BILLS
FIND YOUR REP'S CONTACT INFO
http://www.senate.gov/senators/contact/
THREAD ARCHIVE 1
https://archive.is/https://8ch.net/pol/res/2018160.html
WEB ARCHIVES
>http://americablog.com/2015/05/bartering-shadows-trans-pacific-partnership-bad-news.html
YOUTUBE LINKS: WebM maybe?
>TPP: The Dirtiest Trade Deal You've Never Heard Of
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnC1mqyAXmw
>TPP - Wikileaks has released another bombshell
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPIsjH25GHo
>Why Is Obama Pushing The TPP?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpB_xYtksrk
>Heads Up! Obama Puts A Gag On Any Talk About the TPP, Contains UN Gun Control
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bUeIgeadwY
>TPP: Wall Street Wins, Workers Lose
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc8iOZvLoYo
>More Proof Obama’s TPP Deal Favors The Rich
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxd6gPQJ8y8
>10 Biggest Lies About the TPP (w/ David Dayen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_kyZiwzBo0
>Fast-Tracking TPP Will Bypass Future Congressional Authority - News Brief
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXoChHWj8-Q
Please title your posts with brief summaries of the information you are posting.
I will edit this post as images/information is posted for easier navigation.
(also if anyone has the information image on formatting for posting, someone should post that because posts that are formatted well often have great receptions)
Infographic Discussion
We have the information available for infographs:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnC1mqyAXmw
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPIsjH25GHo
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpB_xYtksrk
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bUeIgeadwY
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc8iOZvLoYo
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxd6gPQJ8y8
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_kyZiwzBo0
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXoChHWj8-Q
And that's all just from the first page of Youtube when you search TPP.
We need this shit summarized into bullet points with sources, but they need to be easily understandable to anyone that doesn't have a mental handicap.
That way, we can make infographs focusing on one bullet point and give that to one group (liberty groups about it fucking up the constitution, American job groups about the law being changed to affect wages or importing foreign labour, etc.) as well as bigger ones that list everything.
STOP TPP or Mr. Bones Stop The Ride
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Guys, we cannot let this be coopted. Dig and fucking dig for all of the info available, post relevant info, shills and shit posting is shot on sight.
TO DO LIST
- Use Archive.today to record EVERYTHING. Nothing worse than linking to an article that has been pulled down.
- Ask senators who said yes to the TPA and ask why they said yes. Record their answer. Make them squirm. Likewise, praise senators who said no (others might do the same to boost popularity. A dirty rat on our side is still a rat, but useful).
- Tell everyone about TPP. (Retweet and share other people's tweets/posts as well to get more attention)
- Make infographs/flyers to share on social media and IRL.
- Every time I tweet something GG related, I get retweeted, guaranteed. Yet, the same does NOT happen with TPP. We need to change with. Follow people against TPP and re-tweet their stuff.
> Relevant Hashtags:
> #StopTPP
> #TPPWhatsinit
> #WhatsintheTPP
USA caught spying on Japan
WIKILEAKS EXPOSES US SPYING ON JAPAN INTERNAL DISCUSSION OF TPP
TPP DELAYED BY MEXICO SHOWN IN LIVE CONFERENCE IN HAWAII
THERE MAY BE SOME HOPE LEFT
if the American people knew what was in it, they would oppose it.
Discussion of the leaked documents on TPP.
Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) - IP Chapter
Second release of secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement documents
https://wikileaks.org/Second-release-of-secret-Trans.html
Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) - Environment Consolidated Text
https://wikileaks.org/tpp-enviro/
Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) - Environment Chairs Report
https://wikileaks.org/tpp-enviro-chairsreport/
Updated Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) - IP Chapter (second publication)
introducing newcomers
This picture could be symbolic/instrumental in introducing people to it
My condolences, TPA the TPP fast-tracking bill just passed
But not everything is lost yet. Get your shit together and start by finding out who supported TPA and who didn't:
http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=11440
Then get the shit together and pressure the Senate
Question
I'm in support of stopping TPP. I have one question though. Arn't most people on 8chan redpilled, how does the TPP not go along with that?
What can I do as a New Zealander?
This effects us too.
Need Somone to make Sense of Documents
The TPP Documents' legalese released by Wikileaks are beyond me, especially the parts involving definitions of copyright if an Anon who can read it better then I can explain how to read this or atleast explain how Copyright is redifined by the TPP that'd be great.
Asking because in the GGHQ thread an Anon is asking about it and I'm reasonably sure Copyright definition has been broadened but I'd like to have this confirmed before I proceed with a response.
OP for /pol/ and other boards
We need to come up with a concise template OP that can easily be spread across the boards and recyled. Its a good idea to change the OP on the current stickied thread but we need a new thread as soon as possible.
The last OP was lacking very little information and unless you lurked the entire thread the message has trouble getting across.
(Considering how little time we have to fight the TPP all things considered)
The articles might become out of data though, so we would have to update the links on this board.