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ac1264 No.18

LETS REVIEW

Do not hesitate to offer critique of this interpretation or clarification of vaguery/error, included [citation needed] where applicable

TPA is in cloture, which essentially means further debate on the matter is limited to an addition 30 hours, thus circumventing the filibuster (ie the STALL IT! tactic has been defeated).

Once debate has concluded, there will be another vote by the Senate.

Should that vote pass (A vote of at least 61 Approving/no more than 39 Disproving required; today's vote regarding cloture saw 65 Approving, Tuesday's vote saw a very narrow margin of Disproving allowing TPA to be halted), it will likely have to go to the House, where it will face another battle - but, if there appears to be 'momentum' behind the legislation, its possible it may do so (and/or that arrangements have already been made for such), or that this may be circumvented altogether (clarification requested on this matter).

Should TPA pass the Senate (requiring at least 61 Approving/no more than 39 Disproving), and (if necessary) the House, the following will be the case:

> The Executive branch can negotiate trade agreements with foreign powers, according to a vague and likely-irrelevant set of guidelines set by Congress; however, once such an agreement is presented - to the Senate, but not the House (IIRC) - the representatives are restricted in how they may respond, no longer able to add amendments nor to debate in greater detail: In other words, they must vote, yes or no, on the matter.

> Further, under TPA, a Senatorial majority will be all that is required - at present, as described above, a significant majority (61 Aye/39 Nay) must be obtained; however, under TPA, a simple majority decision (51 Aye/49 Nay) will be required for approval… To clarify, TPA takes away Senatorial power to resist passage of legislation, and makes it easier to pass legislation based on vote - a double wammy for reduction in representatives' capacity for action as regards passage of legislation…

… Such as TPP.

So, to go back to the start…

TPA is in cloture.

That means a maximum of 30 hours of debate on the topic moving forward.

This, coupled with analyst insight and statements on behalf of the participants (Senators), suggests the final vote will occur sometime next week, 'hopefully' by the end of the week (these hopes espoused by those Senatorial forces hoping to pass the legislation).

It is entirely possible it will not pass… However, given the circumstances, it is unquestionable that further efforts will be made to push this piece of legislative garbage through, which isn't overtly difficult given they can simple request further votes and/or make slight alterations (to better conceal some aspects; or to include political deals within US politics, which are as-likely to be detrimental to the American people as beneficial; and which would be external to the integral aspects of TPP, which will almost-certainly remain unaltered) before reintroduction for a vote.

IOW, this shit will likely get pushed through the Senate eventually, unless a lot of stink is made over it and keeps getting made anytime it rears its ugly head…

ac1264 No.19

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What follows depends on whether or not it has to then go to the House, in which case it would face a fight there as well - however, again, given the circumstances, it is reasonable to assume deals will be struck/alterations made so-as to get this piece of legislation pushed through.

Still, if the House must approve, this adds another level of potential for resistance; which, through social media campaigns urging folks to contact their representatives, we should be hammering.

Hard.

In the event TPA passes…

TPP will almost-certainly pass - there is very-likely at this moment a Senatorial simple-majority (primarily Republicans, but also some Democrats who're getting political kick-back equivalents through this arrangement) already prepared to approve TPP.

Should the Executive branch be given the power under TPA, they will submit TPP, and it will pass.

What happens after that… Well, its not good.

We can't be certain of how not-good it is, however, because, as has been discussed previously

"If the American people knew what was in it, they would oppose it.

and so, not surprisingly, the American people are not being told what is in it.

What little has been leaked is, at best, detrimental… At worst, it is the final nail in the coffin of the United States.

And what happens after that…

… That depends on the American people.


812b2d No.92

I've talked about how you are supposed to solve this, but no one listens

TO SOLVE THIS, YOU MUST RIOT THE RIGHT WAY

CALL EVERY SENATORS' AND CONGRESS PERSONS' CELL PHONES, HOME PHONES, EMAIL ADDRESS, OFFICES, MAIL ADDRESSES, FAXES, BEEPERS, EVERY REMOTE COMMUNICATION TOOL

SHOW UP AT THEIR HOUSES, THEIR OFFICE, THE CAPITAL, VACATION HOMES, THE PROPERTIES, AND PROTEST

SHOW THEM THAT THIS BILL IS WORSE THAN THIS SILLY PROTEST, FAR WORSE. SHOW THEM THEY HAVE NO PRIVACY, BUT THE ALL SEEING COLLECTIVE EYE, PERVASIVE AND INTRUSIVE.

OR ELSE, ALL IS LOST

Flood detected; Post discarded.

*FUG THIS SHIT*


05c291 No.103

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>>92

>I've talked about how you are supposed to solve this, but no one listens

>

>TO SOLVE THIS, YOU MUST RIOT THE RIGHT WAY

>

>CALL EVERY SENATORS' AND CONGRESS PERSONS' CELL PHONES, HOME PHONES, EMAIL ADDRESS, OFFICES, MAIL ADDRESSES, FAXES, BEEPERS, EVERY REMOTE COMMUNICATION TOOL

>

>SHOW UP AT THEIR HOUSES, THEIR OFFICE, THE CAPITAL, VACATION HOMES, THE PROPERTIES, AND PROTEST

>

>SHOW THEM THAT THIS BILL IS WORSE THAN THIS SILLY PROTEST, FAR WORSE. SHOW THEM THEY HAVE NO PRIVACY, BUT THE ALL SEEING COLLECTIVE EYE, PERVASIVE AND INTRUSIVE.

>

>OR ELSE, ALL IS LOST

Did this. The rep of mine who was unresponsive throughout the whole thing is the only one who voted yay.

Though the end is nigh at the moment, I will be doing this again over each trade deal.

HOW CAN WE GET LOCAL NEWS SITES AND NEWSPAPERS TO PUBLISH STORIES ON THIS? HOW COULD WE BEST CONTACT LOCAL MEDIA AND HAVE THEM PUBLISH THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION?


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>>127

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000000 No.129

>>103

I think the best way would be to contact individual journalists who would be interested in this topic. If you can get their attention, there is a chance they'll push for it at the newsroom. You can use this to search through Twitter bio's: https://followerwonk.com/bio

For instance, if you want to find potentially interested journalists at the New York Times, you search for "New York Times tech" and they'll pop up.




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