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 No.18929

So let's say a US citizen is convicted and put on a lifetime sex offender registry.

Would it be possible to just leave the country and renounce your US citizenship once your probation period is over? So basically you don't have a lifelong black mark against you.

(In case you're wondering, this is hypothetical; I'm in no such legal trouble. I could see such a possibility though given the current climate.)

 No.18944

>>18929

If you've served your "debt to society" (yuck), I don't think the US would prevent you from leaving.

However, it's likely that other countries wouldn't be keen to have you around. For residency purposes, many countries require a police report from your country of origin confirming that you've never been convicted of a serious crime. Depending on what you would have been put on the registry for, not all countries might consider that a serious crime (public urination vs rape, for example) but obviously the cleaner your record the better.

For countries that don't require Americans to obtain a visa (for tourism) before arrival, there's also no requirement to bring a police report, but I don't know if they do some kind of computerized checking once you arrive.

So, depending on your crime and on where you want to go, residency and work visas might be difficult or even impossible to obtain.

Tourist visas would probably be easier, but, again, I don't know which countries do some kind of automated check on you and what for.

There are Americans who have spent decades abroad on tourist visas. They'll live in Taiwan, for example, until their tourist visa expires, take a cheap flight to Thailand for the minimum required period they have to stay away, then go back to Taiwan on another tourist visa. Some people have made this sort of thing work, but it would obviously be a difficult life in many ways, and if you screw up, you could get sent back to the US.

Also, you need some source of income. I assume you're not independently wealthy (or you probably wouldn't be on a registry in the first place), so you either need a skill that another country will give you a work visa for, or you have to work under the table on a tourist visa, which carries its own set of hardships and risks.

So my partially but not totally informed take on it is that it would be difficult, but not impossible, and the world would not be your oyster. You could make it work, but you'd have to be able to tolerate a measure of hardship and uncertainty.

The only exception I could think of would be if you had a skill that was desperately needed in a given country, and that country didn't regard whatever particular crime you were convicted of to be a big deal.

 No.18951

>>18944

Thanks for the well-reasoned post.

One thing I wonder about countries rejecting someone is: are there countries who would be more accepting than others? And if so, which ones? Like, if a person had marketable skills and could give a coherent interview (assuming their process even got to that point?), I wonder if it would be possible to get in despite a light to mid-level sex crime, such as possession of CP or indecency with a minor.

 No.18957

>>18951
No, not really. Many countries probably have lighter punishments for those offenses in-country, but they all still view them as very serious crimes that can seriously hamper your chances of entry.

 No.18967

Just disappear into mexico.

 No.18982

>>18967
Just outta curiosity, how can you do that?

 No.19082

>>18982
take all your money and stuff you want to keep
head south

 No.19083

>>19082
and watch out for drug cartels

 No.19089

>>19082
But there's a border. You need a passport and shit.

 No.19566

>>19089
avoid big city borders, go through rural areas. This is how they get up here illegally

 No.19575

>>19566
Really? There are rural places where you can just drive right through?

 No.19591

>>19089
You don't need a passport to get into Mexico.

 No.19606

So anyone can just cruise on down through a rural area and not be stopped at all?

 No.19607

No and the people who think you can are clueless.

here's what happens when you try to cross the border through a 'rural' area
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/police-name-20-year-old-man-shot-dead-near-sumas-border-1.2289954

 No.19631

This may come as a shock to you, but it's not particularly easy for a convicted felon on the sex crime register to move freely

 No.19637

>>19591

>You don't need a passport to get into Mexico.


It's a little more complicated than that, amigo.

http://gomexico.about.com/od/entryrequirements/qt/travel_documents.htm



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