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 No.18952

How is the climate toward us in countries besides US/UK/AUS/CAN?

I know it's kind of a broad question, but just to give some structure to the response, I would sum up the general US cultural attitude as:

>anyone who is attracted to children should be killed

>no punishment is too severe for any sexual act involving children
>children are incapable of experiencing sex with adults without being coerced, and will inevitably be harmed by it

Would be nice if there was a place that was like "Yeah, I'd rather people not have sex with kids, but it's not the end of the world."

 No.18969

In Belgium I guess it's pretty bad. We've had this serial killer named Marc Dutroux who abducted, abused and killed many young girls in horrible ways. There's also a lot of high-ranked catholics who turned out to be child molestors.

People here tend to automatically link pedophiles with Dutroux and they don't see any difference between normal pedophiles and child molestors.

 No.18972

>>18952
>Would be nice if there was a place that was like "Yeah, I'd rather people not have sex with kids, but it's not the end of the world."
Mars. Pedos need to get there first and claim it.
First Amendment of Mars.

But seriously, pretty much everywhere has that general protectionist intent towards children and murderous intent towards pedophiles though how followed through it actually is depends on how conservative/violent an area is as well as cultural factors towards sex in general. I get the feeling most pedo stuff goes on behind closed doors with all stakeholders keeping quiet about it until the child grows up. Most having no harmful effects from the experience and few would probably be just as open to the same thing with their kids. I believe some of these people often frequent /loli/ and /cuteboys/

In most cases where there is some sort of being caught it is usually handled at the familial level separating the child from the adult without drawing in all the potential publicity of involving law enforcement to which the adult would of course oblige.
Unless their the persistent stalkers like
>>>/girltalk/627

Quite often you hear those call-in victims now middle-aged crying out their story talking about how they were damaged/broken and the adult "got away" with it.

 No.18984

>>18972
1. What about places with low AOC? Surely they're more culturally tolerant.

2. Fuck you, I'm not a stalker. I want my best friend back, and I'm miserable without her. She may very well feel the same.

 No.18987

>>18984
Well yeah AoC being lower is a result of being more culturally tolerant. Though at the same time they might be harsher if you still go below that lowered AoC.

>She may very well feel the same.

keyword being "may" not does. For all we know in a few years when boys her age start showing her attention she'd rather be done with you to go have fun with them. At which point you should definitely let her. Besides she wouldn't be innocent enough for you anymore.

 No.18989

>>18987
Sure, that's a possibility, but I don't think it the likely one. She doesn't seem to be that type of girl at all. I predict that she will remain innocent as I have. I'd let her go do whatever if she made that decision based only on herself… but I would still want to catch her if she fell, and I wish her evil mom would just listen to me so I could fucking tell her that.

 No.18993

1. you aren't innocent
2. you're insane

 No.18995

>>18993
You don't know me.

 No.18996

>>18993
>>18995
And there really aren't any fully sane people in the world, by the way. L

 No.18997

I know everything you've posted here and everything you've posted here is out of this world nuts.

 No.18998


 No.19013

Hung out with some normies and got their views regarding this matter as their conversation switched to AoC. Apparently they believe there's some lower age where a child can have sex only with the parent's permission. First time I've ever heard of that.

It also allowed me to get some perspective on why they would think so negatively of paedophilia. A lot of it seems to stem from their relationships with barely legal girls they've been with and the immaturity they've encountered with them.

A girl's perspective was that 16 is too young whether they are a mature 16 or not. Though her reasoning for thinking that way fell to what seemed like a "feeling". Justification being they have many years later for all of that.

A guy's perspective was that he believes girls think of sex as an emotionally bonding experience and they may get attached.

One of the pervasive impressions that I got was that in forming an opinion on paedophiles they project what they would do to adult women onto what they believe paedos would do to children. And then amplify that with the news they hear from media or friends.

 No.19016

>>19013
the biggest hurdle ive come across is normies seem to view all sexual acts the exact same way

 No.19017

>>19016
Which same way?
I do understand that vague term sexual acts gets conflated to full intercourse in the minds of normies while the law would be broad enough to cover things as non contact as exhibitionism.

 No.19021

>>19017
penetration=non penetration
mutual masturbation=ass fucking

 No.19032

>>19021
Yep, I've realised that. They seem to think it comes as a full package.
As hentai puts it "My hips are moving on their own"

 No.19096

>>19013

I think you hit the nail on the head in regards to projection.

Anti-pedos view children as gullible suckers, and assume pedos see them the same way; thus, the pedos are knowingly preying on children the same way scammers prey on naive old people who click a phishing email. Viewed this way it makes sense why anti-pedo rhetoric is so intense and vitriolic.

By the same token, a lot of pedos seem to project their feelings onto children, which I think is equally invalid. They think 8yo children are horny and looking for raunchy sex, when it's probably more likely they are just curious and uninhibited and have no qualms with being naked and getting licked or fondled as long as it feels good. Maybe the pubescent ones have a more goal-oriented, "I wanna cum" mindset, but I imagine that's pretty rare in younger kids.

Basically people just need to do a little better job with perspective-taking.

 No.19100

>>19096
>By the same token, a lot of pedos seem to project their feelings onto children, which I think is equally invalid.
Oh yes, for sure.
>They think 8yo children are horny and looking for raunchy sex
Or in contrast to this, think that because an 8 year old likes being around them that makes them their little girlfriend who wants to be in some monogamous relationship with them.

>when it's probably more likely they are just curious and uninhibited and have no qualms with being naked and getting licked or fondled as long as it feels good.

pretty much this
>people just need to do a little better job with perspective-taking.
and this

 No.24235

>>19013

Sex with parental consent is the way to go.


 No.24251

>>24235

>consent decided by third party

Why don't you just come out and admit that loli slavery is cool too?


 No.24276


 No.24288

>>24251

Not decided, but mediated. Children need permission to do almost anything else anyway.


 No.24312

>>18952

> How is the climate toward us in countries besides US/UK/AUS/CAN?

In Germany, it's currently like paedophiles are considered poor buggers who need to be cured – if not of their paedophilia (as paedophilia isn't an illness and can therefore not be cured or something) then of their urge to watch child porn or fuck kids. At least that opinion is mainstream enough to appear openly in the media.

On the other hand, if you live in Germany, you shouldn't tell your neighbours or anyone you're a paedophile: You will probably not be confronted with hatred, but, say, confusion. (They'll be like "WTF a strange person" or something, as if they'd gotten to know their neighbour is schizophrenic or collects weird things or something, but they'll try their best not to show this attitude.)

An interesting aspect of this is what you see when you observe reactions to cases like the Edathy issue, i.e. well-known people (politician in this case) getting caught hoarding child porn or, as it was in this case, material in the legal grey area. The media coverage confronts the public with the existence of people you'd never have thought of they gather child porn (as if you'd think that of anyone), public interest in the topic of paedophilia rises (several people said Mr Edathy needs professional help instead of pending lawsuits), calls for tightening the laws come in, some politician changes the law to calm down the masses (more specifically, his voters), the interest wanes, everything returns to normality. No world-changing discussion has actually taken place. So the public attitude is unlikely to change soon.

Germany is home to "Projekt Dunkelfeld", a scientific investigation into the current situation of paedophilia (and how to mitigate problems caused by it, which mainly means how to tackle paedophiliac-motivated child abuse), and "Kein Täter werden", a psychological reception centre for paedophiles who want professional help. The head of "Kein Täter werden", by the way, once said in one of the talk shows in the wake of the Edathy affair that their investigations and experience have convinced them they're unable to relieve anyone of paedophilia but are indeed able to mitigate problems with getting on with a world that (was it also he who put it this?) cannot concede to paedophiles what they really need.




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