/younglove/ - Pedophilia Discussion

>Muh Princeton
>Muh "rape"

>Implying

>>19789 (OP)
>I just want you to tell me how his death makes you feel.
How you presented it, indifferent.
Regardless, I don't see why you're posting it here, seeing as a quote from his letter, that you failed to mention, "The damage that was done to my body still prevents me from using the bathroom normally," suggests it was actual (brutal) rape, and thus likely not committed by a pedophile. He was raped by a silly sadist. Wew.

Furthermore, skimming his notes, he seems to simply blame all his failures on the event(s), and fails to take much responsibility for his self, but rather blames everything on the event(s).
When I skimmed the notes, his suicide letter, I mostly read the first couple lines of each paragraph. What it screams to me is that he was a pedophile, or had "urges" to children in some way, be them genuine or non-genuine, he had them?
Why?

Well, he hates what happens to him, and he hates himself, as well as therapists from the little I read.
Some quotes will follow to support this.

>Being molested […] has made me the monster I am
>I have accepted that the darkness will never allow me to be in a relationship.
>I will never have children, and I wanted to be a father so badly.
>I have no interest in talking about being raped as a child, both because I know it wouldn't help and because I have no confidence it would remain secret.
>I feel an evil inside me. An evil that makes me want to end life.
>I have a responsibility to stop myself from physically harming others.
>I feel like I'm trapped in a contimated body

This all being said, my diagnosis of him and his case is simply a poor fella who was brutally raped by some piece of shit sadist, who grew up in a culture that told him that that's what pedos do, resulting in when he began growing up and realized he was one, he though that's what he was going to do, this being enforced by the molested -> molester bullshit that was/is spoken about among normies.
He was psychotic and was in a deep pit of self-hatred after years of hating what he eventually identified himself as, a monster, one who is "evil inside," and one who cannot escape "the darkness."

In conclusion, it's unfortunate, however I'm pretty indifferent.
It's a shame, but I didn't know him, and he chose to give up.

>>19792
>How can
By being educated on it and being asked, and not being forced or bribed into it?
If they enjoy it, their consent if furthered for proceeding, if they don't, it's revoked right away.

Sex with kids is usually silly or mutually like-able. Gentle basic, "boring" things, as many would say.
Raping kids is forceful, often violent, and generally not welcomed.

>>19793
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>>19794
>Fucking/raping
So, consensual and rape is bad?
How is mutual fun bad?

Silly goose.

>>19789

>I just want you to tell me how his death makes you feel.

I have no particular feelings about it. I didn't know him and people die and commit suicide every day.

I guess we're supposed to assume that his rape as a child caused his problems and his eventual suicide, and we're supposed to feel bad about that because this is a "pedo" board.

I have a number of responses to that.

First, this board is /younglove/, not /youngrape/. Adult-child romance and even adult-child sex are not intrinsically linked to rape. In that sense, posting the story here of a childhood rape victim who later became an hero really makes no more sense than posting it on any other board that also has nothing to do with rape.

Second, while Zeller seems to have attributed most of his problems in life and, especially, what he referred to as "the darkness" to being repeatedly raped as a child, the extent to which it was responsible for his problems is really unknowable. He obviously had a traumatic childhood in general, and was raised by (and later essentially disowned by) a family with bizarre and unhealthy religious beliefs. Plenty of people who suffer from depression and who later commit suicide were never molested as children; plenty of people who were molested as children do not suffer from depression as adults and do not commit suicide.

Finally, I notice that you don't appear to have posted this on /bl/, which is the board for boylovers. While some /younglove/ users are boylovers, they are a small minority here, at least of users who do more than lurk. I'm not going to spend a lot of space here slagging on boylovers, but I will point out that, in spite of the constant media push to normalize homosexuality and to suggest that it is quite common, only a tiny fraction of people are gay. That includes children, obviously. So, while I think that consensual same-sex adult-child relationships are possible, they are–in practical terms–incredibly difficult to achieve. While some children will be interested in exploring their sexuality with opposite-sex adults, there are many fewer who will be interested in exploring their sexuality with same-sex adults.

So, in summation, while rape is bad, the extent to which Bill Zeller's rape was ultimately responsible for his suicide is unclear, and the relevance of your post to a board which overwhelmingly supports consent in adult-child relationships or total abstinence, in the case of the party poopers and whose users are mostly interested in opposite-sex i.e. normal relationships is questionable.

>>19804
I cant believe you just wrote that. Did you even read the letter?
>guy gets raped as a child
>no support from anybody
>gets depressions
>cant do anything, not even keep up simple relationships
>tries to cheer himself up by beeing succesful (what he was, unlike you)
>it doesnt help
>he kills himself because he cant escape his past
>MUH IT WAS HIS FAULT PEDOS DO NUTHING WRNG1!!!!1111!
Get yourself checked for autism.
>>19801
Oh look; Mr
>boys are worse than girls because I am not sexually attracted to them
>but I really LOVE girls guys, I dont just want to use them for sex <3
>I am also much better with children than all these normie assholes!!!!
Fuck off.

>>19805
>>19804 and >>19801 disprove your point.

I hope the sane members of this board arrive soon.

>>19806

>Did you even read the letter?

Of course. You, on the other hand, appear not to have read my post.

Or, at least, you did not understand what you read.

>no support from anybody

Including his Christian zealot parents. Why don't you go post this over on /christian/? You seem to feel that all pedos somehow bear responsibility for Zeller. Why not all Christians?

And, as I pointed out and you failed to address his childhood, apart from the rape, was likely a significant factor in his problems and his suicide.

>gets depressions

Yes, and depression is a risk factor for suicide.

And plenty of people who were not molested get depression.

This is still totally unrelated to /younglove/.

>tries to cheer himself up by beeing succesful (what he was, unlike you)

Well, I can tell you one thing I have been more successful at than Zeller.

Living past the age of 27.

>he kills himself because he cant escape his past

No, he *said* he was killing himself because he couldn't escape his past.

You've made the mistake of putting complete trust in a suicidal person's ability to accurately understand and describe his own psychology. People are pretty bad observers of their own internal states even under normal circumstances, and this is magnified in the case of people who are seriously emotionally or mentally disturbed. If you doubt it, I would encourage you to do some research into people who have survived serious (not attention-seeking) suicide attempts. People who survive suicide attempts by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge are a good example of this. Overwhelmingly, they later report regretting their decision as soon as they jump, and most do not attempt suicide again later. Putting so much trust in the judgement of a person whose judgement is, by definition, compromised seems foolish.

>MUH IT WAS HIS FAULT PEDOS DO NUTHING WRNG1!!!!1111!

As sophisticated an attempt at characterizing my argument as that was, I still feel obliged to point out that I said neither of those things.

I did question the extent to which Zeller's rape was ultimately responsible for his problems and his suicide.

I did question the relevance of the OP to this board.

And I still have no inclination to experience any particular emotional state because of Zeller's suicide. It has nothing to do with /younglove/ and nothing to do with me.

>>19810
>Well, I can tell you one thing I have been more successful at than Zeller.
>Living past the age of 27.
kek but thats mean man.

>>19814

>I am going to assume Zeller knew himself better than you do :)

You can assume whatever you like. That doesn't make it true.

>This is absolutely not relevant for this discussion

You would like it not to be, but it is.

>"There are people who were not molested and got depression" so fucking what?

So Zeller's depression and suicide have an unknown relation to his rape as a child, because plenty of people get depressed and commit suicide without ever having been molested.

>You are distracting from the actual topic

And what do you think is the topic, exactly?

>and also beeing hypocritical

I don't think you know what that word means.

>And how is this not relevant to this board? This is a board to discuss topics related to pedophilia,

It's not relevant because Zeller's suicide has nothing to do with pedophilia.

It might have something to do with child rape (which is not the same as pedophilia), but even that is not certain.

>>19823
cuck is my favorite insult.

C U C K
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>>19806
>>boys are worse than girls because I am not sexually attracted to them
Still stuck on me not liking boys?
Not everyone is a faggot who likes violence and boy-activities.

>Get yourself checked for autism.
Get yourself checked for schizophrenia, seeing as you obviously don't have your ducks marching in a line, nor do you seem to understand their post.
Pedos likely weren't related anyhow, seeing how he describes a very violent time, which describes a sadist, not a pedo.

>>19823
>Calling someone a "cuckold" as just a general insult makes zero sense.
Literally >>19825 you autist.

>>19834
You sure are rational.
:^)

>>19814
>There is no reason to assume
As there is no reason to assume it's his molestation/rape that caused him problems, and especially no reason to assume it was committed by a pedophile, therefore making it not relevant to this board.

>>19834

>I just hope that one day FBI bust this shithole filled with creeps

Prepare for disappointment. This board is legal in the US and will likely remain so indefinitely. In addition, no illegal activity takes place here, at least I've never seen any.

If you do not like the fact that the US Constitution prevents the government from criminalizing free speech (including this board), perhaps you would be more comfortable in some shithole country where no such protections exist.

You may be disappointed to find that violence against children is often much more common in those places, however.

>where you will be raped daily and get to feel how innocent children feels when they are abused.

This board is overwhelmingly against child abuse and rape. I don't know whether you're trolling or just really stupid.

>the Internet will fall under law's reign,

It is now and always has been. You're just babbling now.

>Your disgusting existences will soon come to an end.

Pedophilia is extremely common and will likely be part of our species for millennia to come.

>>19839
>Not everyone is a faggot who likes violence and boy-activities.
Because your autism keeps you from interacting with other people and getting to know human personalities, you are stuck with stereotypes and propaganda. You dont like the stereotype of boys beeing "boyish" because it reminds you of the time when you were bullied and all alone and it also reminds you of how much you missed in life and what a pussy you are now. Thats why you only want to be around little girls; because you hope them to be just as boring and dull as you are, but guess what? Little girls also like fooling around. :O
I bet you are just aroused by children because you cant even look an adult straight in the eye. You are just one of these who want to fuck children because they never stoped beeing children themselves. Thats all, you can now go back fapping to CP.

Sage for shit thread

>>19844
Bump for Yasuna.

>I just want you to tell me how his death makes you feel.
Nothing really.

It's like you're arguing that rape is bad and hurtful, which is like arguing that poison is poisonous. Duh, obviously it is. What, you assume that because this is a pedo board we somehow support rape? That's a pretty fucking insane assumption

>>19840
Also I love that picture, bees are awesome.

>>19885
>bees suck
Factually, objectively incorrect

>Honey is the only food that never goes bad. Honey can, and has, been stored for hundreds of years with no noticeable effect. The only thing that can happen is that if too much water gets into the honey it will ferment into alcohol

>In fact, honey was likely used to make the first alcohol that humans drank. Over time, most societies adapted their crops to make alcohol with. But in colder locations such as Scandinavia, where crops were harder to grow, honey remained the main source for alcohol. This is probably the reason that some of the oldest writing that is preserved from pre-christian Western Europe are Norse chants to summon bees.

>Bees can only see the colors yellow, blue-green, blue, and violet. If you see a flower in those colors, it is likely that it is pollinated by bees. Bees can also see a unique color that humans cannot perceive which has been nicknamed "Bee's Purple", which is a mix of yellow and ultraviolet.

>Bees normally collect pollen from plants to make honey. But if none is available they will attempt to "forage" from other sources. For instance, some bees in France produced green and blue honey after foraging in the runoff from a Skittles factory. However, if the source is anything other than pollen, the product legally cannot be considered "honey" in most locations.

>>20007
If you're stupid and have no idea what the fuck you're doing, yes.
But if you can read, even slightly, or identify words, you can easily find 100% pure honey.

The non-pure stuff tastes like dicks and is only found in shit dollar stores or in spic-shit.
Even off-brand stuff is 100%. Be it local, Chinese, "undefined" a big company, everything in Texas is either 100% or none from what I've seen, and the none is hard to find.

>>19843
I already did.

>>19844
>Muh stereotypes
I like active girls who like fooling around with things, and sometimes liking 'boyish' activities from what I've seen.
Why?
Because despite liking wrestling, or sports or something, they usually aren't pieces of shit personally, they're usually still that sweet little girl. They're still silly. They aren't super-competitive (usually) and they care if someone gets hurt, and will be very helpful if someone needs help. Boys, not so much from the camps I have been to that had younger children, as well as family and parties that had young kids.

>When you were bullied
I was bullied for being white and fat.
Neither is an issue anymore, as I'm fit now with no sign of being fat, and I'm not surrounded by thuggish spic kids who have been told whites try to keep them down.

I liked little girls, even little Mexican girls, then and before. They didn't act that way when those problems arouse, but as they arose after my attraction, it isn't really relevant.
I never really liked, even the white boys, in my school, even as friends. Their activities and likes were usually stupid, mean, or too pseudo-advanced.
Stop projecting.

>>19870
Not all of them are miserable "devil" spawns, but they are much more than girls, although not the majority, but they also just have different personalities and likes, especially past toddler-age.
Their activities and how they handle their self just isn't likeable to me. Some are tolerable, but most are annoying or bastards. The tolerable ones can even be a little fun, but they don't compare to the average little girl.

>His age
I-I'm not lonely and old though.

>>19885
>>19886
>Hates bees
>Hates me
Good, I'm glad.
As >>19887 said, bees are fine. I wouldn't knock down a bees nest or call someone to go get them out if they set up a nest in a tree in my backyard, especially in the country-houses backyard.
But hornets and shit? You get the broom and gas can every time, even if I don't go by the tree or use the porch. Fuck you.

>tl;dr
Short attention span and sub-par intelligence shouldn't justify your hate for someone else.
Learn to quality post.

I bet you had trouble in history class too, right?

>>19893
I'm the BO now, technically.
Why are you even here?

>>20005
Damn bastards.
>Using the sugar Jew
>Not drinking the classic sweet, healthy, nectar that some sweet bee made into honey