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 No.26644

Let's take a hypothetical situation and I ask those of you who believe children can't consent, or make a choice about sexual activity, to answer the question.

Let's say a loli started stroking a man's cock with no provocation from the man whatsoever. She just grabbed it and began jerking him off.

How did that man manipulate, coerce, force, intimidate, or "rape" the loli?

And remember, he never once gave any inclination that it would be okay for her to do so. She just did it out of the blue. Not to a stranger mind you.

 No.26653

>present a wildly unrealistic scenario

>try to shift the burden of proof on anyone who doubts the conclusion you've chosen to draw from that

Okay everyone who don't believe that the government didn't do 9/11, consider this: what if those had been military jets crashing into the towers instead, and Bush had gone on TV and admitted it. How would that not prove that the government did 9/11?

Do you think that the Holocaust actually happened? What if the prime minister of Israel showed you the minutes of the cabal meeting where they decided to fake it, and gave you 1000 hours of video of the concentration camps where the Jews did nothing but party while the Germans served them? How could such amazing evidence not change your mind?

You seriously don't believe in aliens? Imagine for a second a Martian space craft landing on your lawn and inviting you to their home planet for a vacation? Surely you would be convinced then.


 No.26656

>>26653

>present a wildly unrealistic scenario

Actually it did happen.

And then you run off on a tangent about conspiracy theories and sage the post because you have no good reply.

Bravo!!


 No.26661

>>26656

Check out the perspectives thread.


 No.26672

But the holocaust did happen, you retarded /pol/itician.


 No.26673

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>>26656

Sage is not a downvote. You're thinking of reddit.

>>26672

Fuck you, I have a poetic license to post hyperbolic strawmen when attacking other people's strawmen.


 No.26691

Of course a child can make a choice about sexual activity, but society thinks sexual consent needs to be an informed choice.

A child might put a fork in a power socket, that doesn't mean they're making an informed choice to electrocute themselves. And the adult in the room will be held responsible for allowing the situation to occur, even if they didn't encourage the child to do it.


 No.26693

>>26691

But isn't allowing a child to put a fork in a power socket inherently more dangerous than wanting to play with a man's cock?

Of course the anti's will say "But then the man will want more and manipulate the child to go further." In today's hysteria controlled world about sex, true. But if we taught kids they have the right to say yes AND no, and if someone makes them do something they don't want to do, THAT'S when you tell on them, then where's the harm?


 No.26694

>>26693

That is the problem people don't think kids can make good decisions. I've seen special needs kids learn important skills and make certain decisions. If society wasn't in denial about sex parents could help kids make good decisions. Parents help kids make good decisions in other scenarios why not sex?


 No.26700

>>26694

>Parents help kids make good decisions in other scenarios why not sex?

Because a majority of society thinks sex is this overly complicated, magical thing, that children are unable to comprehend.

If they aren't able to understand sex can have negative consequences just like riding a bicycle can have negative consequences if not done safely, then they shouldn't be riding a bike.


 No.26920

>>26653

Please read this post (and the two posts it refers to) and you'll realize not only that it's totally possible, but that feminists know it and try to find ways to work around it.

https://8ch.net/younglove/res/23805.html#q26898

>>26700

+1. Best anti-anti argument ever in two lines. Thank you.


 No.26927

>>26700

Sex is much more complicated than riding a bike, and adults generally don't have children ride bikes to satisfy their own sexual desires.

If you aren't able to understand the intricacies of sex and its emotional consequences, you shouldn't be interacting sexually with anyone let alone extremely mentally vulnerable children.


 No.26931

>>26927

And another anti completely misses the point. Sex is only complicated because society makes it so with the stigma they attach to it. It wouldn't be any more complicated than teaching children safe sex practices if we didn't attach such emotional strings to it.


 No.26942

>>26931

There's only one anti on the site, and he's a hypocrite who's tried to rape children, there's no point replying to him, nothing out of his posts have any real meaning.


 No.26974

>>26927

I think you are confusing your own difficult relationship to people with sex here. It's not the same thing. It makes you complicate things that for others may be simple.

Life is difficult in itself without you people traumatizing everything and making every person in it a filthy enemy.


 No.26995

>>26974

That's a complete strawman and does nothing to contradict that objective reality of human experience.

In the end there's literally nothing you can say that will ever make you right or your beliefs true. Sex is complicated, and people regularly get emotionally hurt by sex regardless of intentions. The end.


 No.26999

>>26931

Having romance not have emotional strings attached is a contradiction.


 No.27001

Pedo's want the right to have sex with peoples children.

Good luck with that!


 No.27007

>>26999

Having sex without emotional strings is fun though. If YOU don't want to have sex without an emotional attachment, that's your personal choice. But don't force your choices on others who might enjoy sex just for fun.


 No.27028

>>27007

You don't choose to develop feelings for someone. It just happens.


 No.27029

>>27028

No one said you choose to develop feelings for someone. What I'm saying is emotions don't HAVE to be part of a sexual relationship.

If little Suzy Sugarpussy wants to let Mr. Pedo take her Dora panties off and lick her pussy, and have her suck his dick, just make sure she knows about safe sex practices. She doesn't have to love him, she just has to love having her pussy licked or giving head.

It's the emotional aspect attached to sex that causes harm, not the act of sex itself.

Precautions can be taken to reduce or prevent the risk of disease and physical harm by educating children about sex.


 No.27031

>>27029

And what if she becomes emotionally attached to him? You don't have any way of preventing it and making it some sort of sterile experience.


 No.27032

>>27031

You don't have any way of preventing it and making it some sort of sterile experience between two adults either.

Life isn't all kittens and ice cream cones. You take risks in life and hope for the best. Sex is no different. Why keep treating it like it's something mystical and all powerful when it's just another part of life?

Stop teaching that sex is only something to be done between adults when they fall in love. Teach that's it's just another part of life that you can share with anyone if you choose to.

You have the choice of waiting for Mr. or Mrs. Right to come along, or you can be with Mr. or Mrs. Right Now.


 No.27033

>>27032

>You don't have any way of preventing it and making it some sort of sterile experience between two adults either.

And that's why sexual relationships are emotionally charged for adults as well. There is no such thing as casual sex.


 No.27055

>>27032

Exactly, youre taking a hige risk where the child has to pay a big part of the price if things go wrong like they very very likely will. It's not fair to the child when you were the one that wanted to take the risk in the first place and the one who roped them into it when they were 100% fine just enjoying a normal childhood, and especially when they dont even know the potential consequences. It's not fair to them at all.

Even if sex with children wasnt illegal, theres still a big chance theyll be hurt emotionally. Adults get hurt by sex all the time just from misunderstandings alone, and misunderstandings between children and adults are incredibly common.

It's just not fair.


 No.27069

>>27055

I think this is a really great and succinct post. Even if I do believe that things like "you were the one that wanted to take the risk and the one who roped them into it" might not necessarily be true, I still completely agree with the conclusion. It isn't fair to impose the risk of a child-adult sexual relationship on a child.

That said, I do think we could possibly work toward a world with a view on sex that's laid back, honest and open enough that much of the risks and dangers would be mitigated. Maybe when we've reached a point in society like that…




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