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4chan was great in its prime, 8chan is great in this time, But we will eventually need something that will resist any kind of crime.

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f1d6ce No.1[Reply]

8chan is a well designed board. So well designed, that whatever causes it to end will be something any decent imageboard will be prone to.

Therefore, even if it takes a decade or two to fall, there needs to be a greater chan immune to virtually everything; server loss, thousands Social (in)Justice Warriors coming like a Zerg Rush, the site being made outright illegal, etc.

This is surely possible, and I have my own ideas for how; but it would be a shame to miss a greater idea through simple overconfidence in one's creativity.

Contribute anything you like to the project of 16chan, be it an idea for a posting structure, network plan, media item(such as a logo), or even an internet doomsday scenario to plan for!
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12474b No.132

>>1
That logo is genius!



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1d43eb No.137[Reply]

There seem to me to be two “official” ways to look at the state of boards on the chans these days, both of them wrong. First, we conceive it to be an engineering problem that can be made to yield to a pragmatic instrumental approach. From this vantage point there is a simple right and wrong way of organizing topics into threads, never the thousand private individual possibilities the epic oldfag anons might have believed in. Second, we look upon the chans as if it were a character in a continuous courtroom drama, a drama wherein we search for the villains who have prevented quality from being posted. Lazy mods, poor bait victims, incompetent administrators, evil shills, ill-trained newfags, bad shitposters — whoever the villains may be we shall find them, report them, censor them, persecute them, perhaps even ban them! Then things will be okay.

Monopoly chans have been the chief training institution of the hivemind rulefags. It ensures permanent mods who enjoy privileges of status unwarranted by the content they produce. Because these privileges, once achieved, will not willingly be given over, whole apparatuses of rulefaggotry have been fashioned that are impregnable to change. Even under the severest criticism they grow larger and more dangerous because they felate important parts of the administrator and owner of the site. In the most literal sense they are impossible to reform because they have ceased to be human, having been transformed into abstract structures of superb on-topic efficiency, independent of lasting human control survival mechanisms. This is not a devil you can wrestle with as Daniel Webster did with Old Scratch, but one that has to be starved to death by depriving it of victims.

Posting must, I think, be decentralized as quickly as possible. That certified hotpockets like me are deemed necessary to make quality happen is a fraud and a scam. Look around you: the results of subjective moderation for quality are in the boards you see. Let anybody post who wants to; give users back their abilities to pick and choose threads — who could possibly be a better decider if the means for self-moderation were made available? Restore the original system by encouraging competition after a truly unmanipulated free-market model — in that way the social dialectic can come back to life. Trust in culture and Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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8e1033 No.136[Reply]

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b80dc9 No.66[Reply]

While we wait for the techmarines in the main thread to do whatever it is they're doing, so that we can construct simpler stuff around what they do (Maybe you should give each other contact details BTW, it seems coordination of chat is an issue), we should decide names and logos.

With the current plan, a network that can be used to create chans will form, rather than a single chan.

Also, 16chan.co already exists, but even at it's early stages (When it should be doing well) it is an extremely degenerate and slow board, and so I assume it will be dead or negligible by the time we roll out a chan network.

So, what does that mean for naming?
Either we name the chan network 16chan, or we decide a new name for the chan network and possibly call a chan in it 16chan.

So, discuss names, logos, etc.
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839f02 No.81

>>80
Weird, didn't post.
And trying to post the banner causes an error.

839f02 No.82


235c48 No.125

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29be36 No.131

thank mr weasel

I send a loveletter today, may great temporary happiness come to me.
That would make me endure life a little longer.

617308 No.135

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That's a stoat tho c:




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ecea75 No.134[Reply]

why not



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273173 No.127[Reply]

I love to eat my own cum.

a23d46 No.133

>>127
Congratulations, OP
You are the death of this chan



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27060a No.129[Reply]

hey /16chan/
which Pokémon would you fuck?

6e1d3e No.130

furret



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e38935 No.126[Reply]

8ch may very well die because Fredrick followed the model of every other chan admin before him and created a gay ass IRC and put into power some cockriding mods and proceeded to have an orgy in his high tower above all of the sheeple. All across 8ch hotpockets are taking over a la 4chan and we all thought we had learned a lesson from there but apparently not. This has happened especially on /int/, which has been toyed with and destroyed time and time again by lowcard and his goonies.

Will 16chan take a stance on this issue? If you don't address this now there is no reason to visit your website because it will become an 8ch clone and nothing more. Are you anti-hotpocket or will you let moderators shit all over people once again?

638977 No.128

Ideally, this sort of thing would be impossible since you can't really delete content in a decentralized network.

What we have in mind is a fully decentralized imageboard, at least in the sense that the data is decentralized. I think this is sort of what nntp-overchan is doing too.

People could run frontends on servers which display the post data, and they can "remove" posts, but the data for the posts would still be there in the decentralized network. So you can switch frontends whenever mods start doing something you don't like, or you could run a frontend locally for yourself and see all the posts on the network.

What I have in mind is just a fully browser-based frontend using webrtc, so everyone by default gets their own frontend, so long as they can tolerate having js enabled. I'm not sure yet how security and anonymity would work though, since such a network would inevitably be full of illegal content.

Anyways, checkout:
Hotwheel's planned nntp-overchan frontend: https://github.com/ctrlcctrlv/beyond
List of existing nntp-overchan frontends: https://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/2o274w/overchan_frontends_n_stuffs/
(You'll need tor or i2p to access them, obviously)

Supposedly already has a message board up and running, but no imageboards yet: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet

Freenet and freetalk plugin: https://freenetproject.org/ https://wiki.freenetproject.org/Freetalk



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c453dd No.72[Reply]

I figure we should let the main thread be a place to spawn ideas, and then we create a separate thread and run with them, so in this thread we'll discuss the possibility of implementing an imageboard over WebRTC, in a purely decentralized, (almost, except STUN servers) serverless, p2p system.

Basic explanation of WebRTC data channels (there are several more in-depth tutorials, google them):
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/datachannels/

Bittorrent DHT spec:
http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0005.html

Two examples of serverless data channels:
http://blog.printf.net/articles/2013/05/17/webrtc-without-a-signaling-server/
http://pastebin.com/7d4YGFtg
^might not work on firefox

pic related is one proposal for how the system should work, I'll discuss my thoughts on it in another post.
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c453dd No.115

>>114
*second week of January… I'm kinda drunk.

39e666 No.116

>>105
Whoops, I'll just take it off the claim thing now.
I don't want PaulTheBod taking this place, now that Hotwheels had his 16chan annihilated.

>>114
Sweet. If only I knew enough about code to have a good idea of the function of what you wrote.
So, what job?

bfb69c No.122

K, I guess it's time for an update:
I've decided we'll have optional servers that sort of work like bittorrent tracker servers; users will use them to initially connect to the network and find nodes and content. The "serverless" option would still be available, of course.

In light of the recent attack on 8chan, the need for this software has become blatantly apparent. Hopefully now that I only have classes to attend to, I'll have more time to work on this.

1e15fc No.123

>>122
Should we have a different place for talking about this?
Say, a blog website or a blog on your own website?
It doesn't make sense to have a board that is currently just a programming blog for one person.

bfb69c No.124

>>123
>It doesn't make sense to have a board that is currently just a programming blog for one person.
I suppose that's true. Tbh it's mostly shitposting to keep this board somewhat active. This whole thing is gonna end up real shitty if it's just me working on it. A standard really needs more than one person working on/agreeing to it for it to be a standard.

I dunno, irc maybe? I don't particularly like blogs, and a forum site would be basically this except even more of a circlejerk. There's also collabedit, but it's more for working on snippets of code.



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539e1b No.117[Reply]

Test.

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539e1b No.118

✪ ✫ ✬ ✭ ✮ ✯ ✰ ✡ ☫

539e1b No.119

🏩 🏨

539e1b No.120

🍙♿



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1cbb40 No.86[Reply]

does anyone know what a deadmans switch is?

I'm new here so I don't really know anything or imply anything in any way.

if 8chan ever gets messed up there should be a system in place for whatever situation that might happen that automatically releases all the information and truth about what is going on to multiple places all over the internet all at once so that it can't be covered up.

peace.
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554ac0 No.96

>>95
Really, I suppose the usefulness of it as opposed to vigilant users is that when the info really is needed, we don't have to deal with "oh shit, no one saved a copy of that one important thread… now what".

It'd be like the archive sites for 4chan and 8chan, making sure that the threads are saved *somewhere* if they're important enough.

89bad7 No.97

>>96
Though on the design I have in mind, posts that are important would tend to survive for long periods of time.

1cbb40 No.102

BUMPING!!!

dfa738 No.106

test post

4ffe94 No.107

>>106
Boards with 30 or more posts cannot die.



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