/4chonr9k/ - r9k

What do you do for a living? Check yourself into fustys rehab where your watched 24/7. Anytime you want to do what you gotta do shut off the computer and go to a bar/club, movie theatre, park anywhere that's public with girls that you can channel that energy into. It's really hard man I don't think I've gone a week since I was like 12. I'm living with my gf and I sneak into the bathroom pretending to pee or something and I'll jack off. If she caught I think our relationship would be over yet I can't quit. Just get away from the computer during peak fap hours and post a pic of yourself we a community it won't haunt you later on I want to see why you can't get a girl.

Also for a friend who's 23 and virgin who's into heavy bdsm I suggested he googled local events surrounding the subject and he joined an event and found people like himself and he got sexy times. Keep us updated

how often do u fap? do u do it everyday?

i agree with blazer, get a grill - i know it is easier said than done, so i suggest getting hookers.. they're hot and will make you want to get it again and again

>>1603

I'm a neet. yeah I'm that pathetic.

>I'm living with my gf and I sneak into the bathroom pretending to pee or something and I'll jack off.

As long as you can actually fuck girls you're fine. You've got no problems and it sounds to me like you're perfectly healthy.

>>1604

Thanks for the email dude. I'll keep that in mind even though I don't email much. Here's my skype addy though: sync.menu. All 4chonners feel free to add.

I'm sorry you feel like you've also been affected by porn but at least you've still been able to get laid man. From what I've read, guys like you can make outstanding recovery and really quickly at that, too. If you completely block out porn/fap (easier said than done, I know) in two months I bet you'd be monster hard every time for a real woman. Also I remember you saying you have strong morning wood. These are all excellent signs. I get morning wood, too, if I go a couple of days without fapping but it's by no means the diamond cutter that people report having.

>Your 29 theres still heaps of time as a male sexually.

I hope so man. The other day one of my best friends was talking to me and was basically saying that I should start looking into marriage already. He told me that I don't want to be "that guy", that still doesn't have a wife while everyone else does; that one single guy that's trying to hang out while everybody else is married and busy with their s/o. I was like, bullshit, I'm still young, I don't want to get married now. He was like, "Yeah, we feel young now, but in another five years or so the age is gonna hit us like a ton of bricks. We're gonna age and there's nothing we can do about it. Better to shack up a young hottie while we still can." It really fucked with me man and that talk was actually one of the contributive factors to why I even made this thread.

All my friends don't know that I'm not a virgin btw. When I was 16 years old I moved to a new city and told everyone there that I wasn't a virgin, which was bullshit obviously. In retrospect I really wish I had never said that because that fucking lie has followed me my entire life since then. In earnest, I really didn't believe it would be a big deal because I thought I would undoubtedly get laid by the time I was 18… which is exactly what would have happened (with fucking loads of women) if my cock actually worked. I've basically been lying now since I was 16 years old. People believe me because they think I'm handsome enough so the thought that I'm lying hasn't seemed to cross their minds. On top of that I'm a pretty good liar I guess. I worry though that some day all this shit might just blow up in my face somehow and everyone will know I've been lying all this time.

Many of my good friends are pretty 'alpha' motherfuckers and I've seen them rise from school kids into actual men that take women back from clubs and shit. This is one of the main reasons I went recluse. For instance, one of my friends has this thing where he likes banging girls with his guy friends. He likes tagteaming girls and shit like fucking a girl while his friend fucks another girl in the same room. He keeps wanting me to do this shit with him (he considers it a 'bonding experience') and I keep backing out because obviously I can't. It makes me look like such a pussy. I have another friend, ripped like a motherfucker, that lived in Turkey for a while. This dude fucked this rich Arab guy's American wife (who is INSANELY hot, I saw her pictures… she kinda looks like Jennifer Lawrence but a million times hotter, no exaggeration) while the Arab guy was in the room calling him "Sir" and shit. Yeah, an actual cuck fetishist. This is just one of his stories and I'm envious that I could never do something like that. Then I just got typical alpha friends. Like one of them lives with his girlfriend - who's a huge cunt, I don't know why he settles for a retarded bitch every time. He keeps telling me to come by his place when his girlfriend's out of town because 'his house will be free and we can go out and bring girls back to his place'. He does this with his other friends, of course, and obviously I can't do it, too, because I fucking CAN'T.

>>1607

I've realised how much getting laid and having a woman goes towards the respect you command from other people, which in turn affects your confidence, which further influences the respect you gain. I've also realised that if you don't have a working dick you pretty much have nothing to live for. Or at least I feel I don't. It's so elementary. You see a hot girl. You wanna fuck her, so you go up to her and talk to her. I see a hot girl. I want to fuck her but I can't, so I don't bother saying shit to her and I don't even want to. Furthermore, I have just about nothing in common with women. My interests have devolved to fucking internet, video games and that's about it. I don't have that evolutionary drive to get out there and work so I can get that cash which will go towards impressing that super hot bitch to take home with me and fuck. If your dick doesn't work, there's no carrot, or pussy, at the end of the stick to reward you for your labours (or rather the carrot/pussy's there… there's no stick holding it up ;_;).

>>1606

I usually fap daily. Sometimes I'm able to resist one or two days. If I fap once in a day I'm pretty much guaranteed to fap at least two more times since 'might as well, the day is lost'. They call this the 'chaser effect' apparently.

I could get a girl quite easily dude. Sounds vain but it's honest. Bitches fucking love me. The thing is what's the point when my cock doesn't work? I can't tell her my cock doesn't work. That's fucking embarrassing and for all I know it will spread everywhere. What's the point of going out with a chick if I'm a broken man? I also don't wanna be in that situation again where I'm trying to have sex and can't get a boner hard enough to do it.

>>1608

Have you seen a doctor? I'm pretty sure you can get pills for your condition.

>>1609

Or see a hypnotist, it might be worth a try. It sounds like you've got a pretty serious problem, I don't think trying to quite porn will necessarily help

First, Blazer is right.

I don't know if this is something you have or not, but I had it. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 19, and I had this fear of getting a woman into bed, and then not fucking her. A fear of not being in control, of not being able to deliver, of not being able to get hard. Just a fear of not being able to fulfill the traditional male role in the bedroom. You want to be able to just pick a girl up and deliver a hard dicking so she looks up to you. In much the same way if you play basketball with a girl you want to be better than her, otherwise it's emasculating in a way. That fear is paralyzing, especially if you start to think that your lack of experience will instantly make you worse than her. Its a thing to be avoided, because if she knows your friends or talks about you to other women you fear that they'll all look at you as less of a man. And so maybe you just don't try. Put it off, hold on to the shred of self-esteem you have left.

Don't do that. Don't. Find a girl and release that fear. Let it happen. Just be naked with her. There are so many women out there who get off on helping guys. They date men with poor or no jobs trying to make them better. They date men who'd make poor fathers or role models and try to make them better. They date men who ride motorcycles and try to make them drive minivans. And they date men who have mental boner problems and these women try to get them hard again. You can find a girl like this. And it starts with being able to be intimate and naked around them without the shame. It starts with being able to just lie there and not having to be an instant sex God. Knowing that this won't be the last time it happens with her. And maybe eventually the 3rd or 4th time you do get wood and maybe then you try putting it in or exploring her body touching things, trying things, learning things without all of the pressure of having to perform.

People forget that the kind of anonymous sex that media makes look like the norm is really weird. It's not natural, and to jump right into that is difficult for anyone. You need to first be comfortable with intimacy and acclimatize your dick to having sex before you can jump into that. But that doesn't mean you can't have sex. Just the kind of sex you pursue needs to be different. Make no mistake there are so many girls out there like this, the problem is our fear often stops us from finding them. We reject the possibility because we expect to get hurt, or that when we leave ourselves vulnerable that not every person will instantly seize the opportunity to take advantage of that weakness.

There is a real girl out there for you and if you really try you can have her. Not everything in this world is easy to achieve, and sometimes we have to sacrifice today in order to celebrate tomorrow. But I guarantee you, that if you put yourself out there and start trying to pursue these opportunities you'll feel even better in failure than you would if you hadn't tried at all.

It's not too late for you, and you are a normal person. You aren't a weirdo. You aren't some freak. You're just having a normal reaction to an abnormal society. Put the ego aside, and let your guard down. Don't reach for goals that are simply absurd for you, but instead take it one step at a time.

>>1609

>>1610

I've gotten a blood/testosterone test done. That's it. It all came out normal. Too embarrassed to tell a doctor about this shit. Also I don't trust a stranger enough to have me hypnotised alone with him. I could have a friend in the room but obviously I don't want a friend knowing about this bullshit either.

>>1612

I didn't really have outright fear of sex until after the second time I failed. First time I failed was a huge shocker, and it was right at the start of my university years, too; the years where you're supposed to be bathed in pussy. Felt like someone had shot an arrow straight through the heart of my soul. She was a virgin, and she was trying to ride me cowgirl style. I was barely hard with the condom on and apparently entered her and she moaned. I couldn't feel shit, I actually asked her if it was in and she was like, "Ohhhh you can't feel it?" Then she tried to ride me for a bit and my dick fell out, limp as fuck. That was when I realised I was fucking impotent. One of the absolute worst memories of my life. We tried again and I couldn't do anything. At least she came her brains out when I ate her out. It seems I'd make a great lesbian, especially since I love vaginas (inthecrack is my favourite porn studio). The next morning when I looked in the mirror I had dried pussy juice around my mouth and cheeks.

The whole time I was with her in bed, like I said, I just wasn't turned on. It just felt 'weird and alien' to me as I've described before back on the board. It really wasn't fear to perform. I was relaxed and my nerves were fine. I just wasn't horny. She didn't have the best face, but she had a really hot, ripe, 18 year old body. Killer legs, cute perky tits that I loved to grab roughly, nice hips, pale milky skin and a beautiful rosy pussy just begging to be eaten. It's strange but I'm more turned on now thinking about it than how turned on I was when I was actually with her. I've said this many times but I've become so conditioned to sitting and jerking off in front of a screen with the death grip that it's as though that is what my mind has become hardwired to perceive as sex, while actual sex just feels completely foreign and alien to me. When you guys grind with girls in clubs, you pop wood, don't you? When you're in a strip club having a private dance, you're rock hard, aren't you? When you guys make out with girls, you feel it in your pants, right? I don't feel shit 98% of the time. I can count the number of kisses on my hand which actually felt like more than just slobby tongue waggling where I got that 'head rush' and semi that people report. I'm a bad kisser either; I've been called an amazing kisser from more than one girl.

When I failed with the first girl I kind of got over it soon enough. (I had the worst mushroom trip of my life not long after though which ended up being prophetic as fuck. Failing with Abby was one of the main things I thought about.) I told myself I failed because I wasn't actually that attracted to her, which I wasn't really, but that of course doesn't mean that I shouldn't have been able to plow the shit out of her, especially when lying with her in bed making out, her legs wrapped around me and titties pressed against my chest, feeling the wet between her legs, etc. The funny thing was she thought that the problem was with her and not with me. She thought that she wasn't hot enough to turn me on. I actually thought that was true on some level, too. Either way, I knew that I wouldn't be able to fuck her, so instead of risking that shit happening again I broke it off with her. She was absolutely crushed, crying and shit. That's one of the dickest thing I've ever done in my life and I never did anything like that again to a girl.

>>1621

Now the second girl I failed with was crazy hot. She said she was a catwalk model. (She also told me that P-Diddy hit on her once and she turned him down. According to her, when she did, P-Diddy asked her if it was because he was Somalian. Kek. So I have one up on P-Diddy of all people.) I was most definitely attracted to this girl, so when I failed with her it became a lot more clear to me that I had a problem. Still however, I was drunk when we tried, so I told myself the reason it didn't work out was because I was wasted. Now with the third girl, I was totally sober, and she was hot, so I had absolutely no excuse and it was the final nail in the coffin. Also I didn't jerk off for five days before trying with her. She did suck me off to climax however and it remains the most memorable and best orgasm in my life. She gave incredible head and as long as she kept sucking I could remain hard enough to eventually blow my load, and man it was fucking mindblowing. Amazing how much better it feels when someone else does it for you. Also it took me ages to fucking cum. She really had to go at it a long time, and I felt like a boss holding her head by clutching her ponytailed hair and moving her face back and forth from my cock. Kind of a silver lining I guess… maybe if I'm cured one day I'll be a sex god that takes ages to blow his load.

The interesting thing is, despite outright failing to be a man with all of these girls, they still all really wanted to see me again and they really liked me, which is in direct contrast to how 4chan /r9k/ views women as bitches, whores, vapid semon demons and nothing else. It's not true; they are indeed, well, human. I still broke it off with every one of them immediately though because I couldn't handle the shame of not being able to fuck them. And still despite that, they never told anyone that I wasn't able to do it; or at least it never came back and hit me in the face, which it undoubtedly would have during university time if they were less discreet about my situation and decided to be cunts about it. For this reason I don't doubt what you've said Bros. I probably could find a girl out there that would be supportive of me through this bullshit but even still I don't want to be in that position. I appreciate however that it's practically inevitable at some point because 'rewiring' to normal sex is a huge part of the 'reboot' process, and for someone like me it's highly unlikely that I'll be able to do this without having a partner support me and be understanding through this bullshit. The trickiest part, however, is finding the right girl. I'd like to think of myself as a pretty good judge of character but this isn't an easy one to sniff out. I can quite easily put on an 'alpha persona' that I can use to get a girl. It's all about confidence and it's not too hard for me to feign that while tipsy and when it's obvious to me that a girl is interested. But being confident is not who I really am, at least not anymore. I'm actually a huge pussy, obviously, and think about how a girl would react when she's in the bedroom with me for the first time and she discovers the truth. It would be quite a contrast from the assertive, confident male she had known just before the deed is finally about to be done. "I can't get it up because I jerked off to too much porn and have porn induced erectile dysfunction at 29 years old. Wanna help me out here?" Obviously I don't have to say it that way but that's what it actually boils down to. A girl thinking a guy is alpha as fuck one second, and then seeing that he actually can't even get it up will probably be weird and pathetic to a lot of girls. If that shit then spreads around, on top of the lies where I've claimed to not be a virgin all these years, it will seriously be the social death of me and my friends will think I'm a fucking joke.

>>1622

That's just one aspect of the difficulty of finding the right girl. The other aspect is the question of how long this is nofap shit is even gonna take to work (fuck, will it even work?), and how long will the girl even stick around before she wants a real guy with a working dick? According to yourbrainonporn.com, most guys take between 2 to 3 months of 'no pmo' to be cured, but some guys see recovery after 9+ fucking months. Hell, there are some accounts online with people that haven't fapped or looked at porn for over a year, and they still aren't cured! These are apparently extreme cases but if I'm one of those fuckers I'm seriously gonna end up offing myself because life clearly isn't worth living as a goddamn eunuch.

To go back to concept of fear of sex and performance anxiety, like I said, in the beginning I didn't have that, and it wasn't until the second fail where that fear became a lot more palpable, by the third it was almost tangible, at least consciously. There were many opportunties I had to get laid between these three occurrences that I didn't pursue because on some level I knew I wouldn't be able to actually fuck. I don't know if that can be called 'fear to perform' or if it was rather an innate understanding that I was broken, if that makes sense. The point is though that every time I was with a girl trying to have sex, I was undoubtedly calm and my nerves were fine, even the third time. Like I said, I just felt confused, almost; confused that I was with a good looking girl and that I wanted her, but she nor the act of sex itself was sexually stimulating/exciting to me at all. Now however I definitely have nerves on top of this bullshit. Before it was just like, "What? Why aren't I turned on?" Now this sht has built up inside me for so long that I know the next opportunity I get, not only will I simply not be turned on, but I will also have nerves and fear to perform because of all the past fails that I've experienced. Shit sucks. It's going to be really difficult for me to overcome all this.

Sorry for the walls of text.

I got friend who has been with maybe 5-6 girls now. He has yet to get an erection as well. The problem he finds is he wants to be in love with them first (lol) it's just an excuse because he was never that way prior. The difference between him and you is the fact that he doesn't watch pornography he simply doesn't. He's comfortable enough with his body I presume because he does nude modelling at the art college. Anyways earlier this spring he went to a bar and was telling me he took a coke addict home and couldn't get it up with her even on coke which I found surprising. So I finally told him to go to his gp and talk about erectile dysfunction drugs. He was perscribed Viagra which he took daily for x amount of days and it was pretty funny. Anyways we went to a gay nightclub and this 2/10 fat chick with acne and arm hair approached him with her ham beast attitude and before I knew it they were leaving the club together and I guess he spent the night at her house and finally got off. Now it was definetly not optimal and he's had 100% better but the drugs really work and I suggest you go on a trial with them first. My only main problem I think is you'll just sit in your room and fap alone while on them. Anyways to conclude my story he regrets it being a real ugly but he definetly prefers it to being a real virgin.

Also whores save up 500 bucks rent one/two out for the entire night. Get them to striptease you, lick each other since you like that, analingus whatever. Also you ain't posted a pic of your handsome self yet why?

Also please don't act like smiley and ask for help but turn down every solution offered to you. You owe it to yourself to trust in us as These are the steps we took to fix our problems so possibly they may work for you.

>>1655

>2 grils went down on me

pics or didnt real

also, story?

>>1664

That might sound like a good idea, but that just introduces a dependence on the medicine for boners and a mistrust of the body when the medicine isn't present. It's more a psychological problem than just a simple physical one, and it can't be masked with drugs, unless he intends to mask it with drugs for the rest of his life. Stuff like this can only really be overcame by facing it over and over until it's overcome and natural confidence is restored. Besides, who the fuck wants to be dependent on drugs for a boner when a natural solution is out there?

>>1657

idk aBoos, i will go again and suggest whores over that "lying in bed, tickle, steal the covers" stuff.. that sounds like gay stuff you do with gf; and i dont think that is the point here

idk where you're from opie, but google massage parlors in your city and get in there mane

>>1665

do you really think he's going to be able to do it the natural way?

I think this is the point where he should be throwing in the towel and getting a 'script for Cialis

>>1656

i meant i had two separate experiences of different girls going down on me.

But fuck how good would a double gobbie be

>>1657

man i fucking hate how much i like porn

>>1664

well fuck u cunt

>>1665

i agree the fact that NFG can get boners, indicates a psychological rather than physical problem. I've tired Cialis, i went to the doc for that. It might have helped the first time, but i still have a few left and dont wanna use em.

Why is it called erectile dysfunction and not ballzheimers? :^)

>>1678

It's called being a human. Getting laid makes you feel good. Not getting any makes you feel like shit. It's hardwired into us. It's the reason why we keep fucking and why the human race propagates itself. A core survival mechanism. Either you're a genuine asexual schizoid (which sucks) or you're in denial about horny you are. Whatever it is, you sure as shit ain't superior to anyone and are just another pretentious shitter on an anonymous imageboard.

>>1688

kek. enjoy your low testosterone fuckboi.

>>1702

ayy enjoy your submission fuckslut

>>1688

>Who cares if this species survives? The only thing that matters is my consciousness survives. The rest of the group doesn't matter if they don't benefit me.

And yet here you are getting prolapsed that someone on an imageboard doesn't agree with your views, complete with an epin reaction pic and pubertal angst to boot. You strike me as incredibly insecure and emotionally fragile tbh. Enjoy your coping mechanism I guess.

>>1704

So responding to someone who disagreed with me is evidence that I care about the survival of this species? LOL, there's a word for that: non-sequitur.

>incredibly insecure and emotionally fragile tbh. Enjoy your coping mechanism I guess.

You're the one projecting. Here you are getting prolapsed that someone on an imageboard doesn't agree with your views, namely me. Holy shit if you're going to complain about something I've done don't go and do it in the same post. Jesus fuck, you small-minded retard. LOL Hahahaha

>>1705

You said that the only thing that matters is your consciousness and that the rest of the human race is irrelevant, yet here you are getting upset and personal when somebody doesn't agree with what you have to say. It's pathetically petty. If you truly didn't care this would all be irrelevant to you and you'd be a lot more stoic on the matter, yet you continue to argue your 'views' and try to convince us otherwise. It's contradictory behaviour child. Genuinely curious, how often do you jack off?

>>1716

>But I at least I dream of being something greater unlike you guys who seem perfectly content with the mediocrity that is humanity.

I like how you're trying to convince yourself and the rest of us that permavirginity is a virtue and that it somehow allows you to transcend humanity (implying you even have a choice in the matter). Whatever gets you through the day bud.

>>1719

>What I'm talking about is taking control of your body instead of giving in to every whim

This implies you have opportunities for sex that you turn down regularly instead of 'giving in to every whim'. In all probability you're a handholdless kissless virgin as they like to say on the chans, don't even try to deny it.

>The only virtue is control.

The crux of the matter is you don't actually have any control over the state of your virginity at all, and as a coping mechanism you've told yourself that you do, and to go the extra neckbeard mile you've constructed a false reality in your mind where you're somehow superior for it all, too. It's amusing to see tbh.

All in all, enjoy your permavirginity my friend.

>>1719

>I never said virginity is a virtue.

Yes you did.

>>1688

>And while it's true that sexual urges have been naturally selected for since those without them didn't reproduce to pass on their behavior that in itself doesn't justify you keeping the urge especially since it's such an inconvenience. Who cares if this species survives? The only thing that matters is my consciousness survives. The rest of the group doesn't matter if they don't benefit me. And sex puts individuals at risk, not a great individual survival mechanism.

>>1725

you know you wouldn't be so frustrated if you were actually getting laid brah. just sayin'.

>>1725

>Also you quote risk as though sex is free from it?

I knew what you meant child. STDs are hardly a profound occurrence that you have to spell out for me. The point is, however, that you can easily find a partner that is free of them, thus making the risk negligible provided you're not an idiot. I had 'risk' in quotes because you make it sound like every vagina is a ticking timebomb waiting to explode your dick off, when sex is a perfectly normal activity that millions of people are doing this very instant. You sound like a squeamish virgin there bud.

>>1731

I honestly find it hilarious how squeamish you are about sex. I genuinely pity you anon.

>>1733

>Why that's no cause for pity.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/squeamish

>easily nauseated or disgusted

Oh but that is :^)

Good luck with the coping mechanisms my young, virginal friend.

>>1735

I thought you were leaving bud. If you really want the last word that bad you can have it, but would you kindly post another memepic or two with it? They're so epic :)

>>1722

at first i though your argument was going to be something like

>sex and women should not be the main focus of anyone's life

but it's just that you don't like dealing when the going gets tuff. Being elitist about that is p stupid, just because you've chosen to not have sexual relationships don't mean ur heaps red-pilled, free thinking maverick. But yeah fucking a girl isnt an accomplishment.

When you find a way to redirect and control your sexual energy, then ill be impressed. (i deal you still beat it heaps)

>>1723

SALTY

HEY NFG RESPOND CUNT

>>1740

>A large part of my philosophy is about empowering reasoned cognition over the emotional as much as possible.

Well you're failing pretty damn hard there child. You need to learn to be more even-tempered whilst arguing if you're going to get anywhere that 'objective'. All I'm getting from you so far is an angsty pubertal teenager tbh.

>>1755

>>1757

Snap and fluid spurt/drip risk after taking them off. Vaginal fluids are wetting.

>>1767

Snapped condoms happened a few times when I was younger before I bought the larger size, so that's not a worry. But contamination can happen in the removal process.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12659241/

No fap increases testosterone by 150% or more by day 7 new study finds, avoid the gains goblin and use this as another excuse to continue your crusade against the heathens of fapping.

Also how's your progress? I take it it nil since you ain't posted no more and you didn't seem to appreciate any of our sagely advice

Thanks for all the replies. I'm sorry I haven't responded properly. The truth is I've tried at least twice, but both times I realised I didn't really have anything new to say so it would just be pointless rambling and whining with nothing constructive to add. I really do greatly appreciate all the advice though and everybody has really helped.

>>1632

>Also please don't act like smiley and ask for help but turn down every solution offered to you.

Dude I wasn't trying to do that at all. In the walls of texts I made above I wasn't turning down the advice; I was just explaining my fears of why certain things will be so difficult for me to do. I still acknowledge that I'll have to follow through with what was stated if I ever want a chance at intimacy and happiness in my life. I'm expecting to deal with more embarrassing moments and emasculating feels, probably many more, but I probably don't have a choice if I ever want to get over this bullshit.

Thanks again brahs. I'm also happy to report that I've been making some actual progress lately. Hopefully I'll have something more definitively positive to detail soon. Tc.