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 No.2758

What's /8lounge/'s general opinion on /newland/ and other self sustainable communities in general?
What are some good examples of self sustainable cities?
>oekaki related it's a plant

 No.2759

>>2758
That really depends on what you mean by "Self Sustainable". I'm not overly familiar with the term.

 No.2765

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>>2758
Is that like what /namibia/ is doing? I don't place a lot of faith in these start-up cities, the reason being that the people who want to move to these places usually have low capital investments to begin with, the laws in place are generally against them, and most of them don't have hands-on experience with the region they're moving to. This isn't to say I think it will flat-out fail, but it will certainly stifle its success.

 No.2774

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>>2758
I think the mistake a lot of people make with them is believing that absolute self-sustainability is essential and mandatory. Down that road lies a fully vegetarian diet where you have to fertilize your garden with your recycled poppycock, because no part of your new self-sustainable lifestyle involves running water or happiness.

Using a combination of solar, wind, and hydro to power your home, growing some fruits and vegetables, and generally lowering your dependence on modern society is great. More people should do that, regardless of if they live innawoods or not. It's when you strive for total removal that things go terribly wrong.

That said, I've been thinking about this exact sort of thing for the past few weeks. I kind of want to get together a bunch of people from my favorite boards and form a little town where we can just spend our days lazing about and playing games and pursuing our passions.

Rather than aim for the hippy/artist commune, I'd want actually use and exploit technology, instead of shunning it and trying to live like a hipster pioneer. I'd want to explore alternative building materials and housing options because it's cheaper and more cost effective, and I don't have a ton of money, not because of some absurd dedication to protecting Mother Gaia.

In addition to all that rambling nonsense, I think one of the most important things is alternate sources of income. Self-sustainable or alternative homes require a lot of work to build and often plenty more to maintain. poppycock like youtube, patreon, gratipay and such. Build up some sort of net presence so people grow to like you and send you free food and supplies and poppycock.

There's a guy who did exactly that years ago and he was a total fuckwit and social retard, but people loved his youtube videos about his crazy mountain dome and his stupid projects that never got finished. So they'd send him money and supplies and materials and helpful information constantly. They even paid him money for shirts that he'd just spray painted a lousy stencil on.

This poppycock can work, but it takes the right mindset. A lot of people who attempt it have the wrong mindset, though. They think they are going to have a tropical paradise with monkey butlers. Chances are they'll have a muddy hut with a wood burning stove and sleeping bags.

 No.2775

The plan over there at /newland/ is to raise a lot of money at first, we aim more for an "innawood.org" on chile. A few months ago when the board owner messaged me (We're pretty good friends. I've known him since we we're six) I also thought the idea was crazy, but they seem like they know their poppycock
>>2774

 No.2777

>>2775
Best of luck to you guys, then. I'm no where near Chile so the project isn't really anything I can get involved with.

 No.2780

>>2777
Well, how about innawood, what do you think about it?

 No.2782

>>2780
You're going to have to clarify a bit more. I'm not sure what you are asking specifically.

 No.2784

>>2782
What are some of your opinions on the innawood.org project? Does it seem doable? Do you think it can succeed? Any other thoughts on it?

 No.2785

>>2784
Wasn't aware of it until just now.. I can't say it looks promising at all. Too many lofty goals and too much wishful thinking.

Even just the idea of having a hidden forest town of 1000 scientists always experimenting sounds pretty silly.

 No.2973

>>2758
Is that a green jellyfish?

 No.2985

>>2973
Looks like a green jellybean to me.

 No.2989

>>2973
>>2985
It's clearly a pickle on a stick.

 No.2992

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>>2758
I've always wondered if it would be possible to make some kind of peaceful little village like you see in most RPGs. Not wholly cut off from the rest of the world, but set up well enough to support itself for the most part.

If only land and taxes and all that poppycock wasn't so costly.

 No.2998

>>2992
>peaceful little village
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commune

It's totally possible. One would just have to have something to sell to pay for taxes. And quite a bit of startup cash.

 No.3005

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>>2992
I remember playing Rune Factory 1 and 2. I absolutely loved the comfy rural feeling. Rune Factory 3 and 4 had a lot more features, but I felt like they sacrificed the charm of the simple community for the sake of extravagance and selling more games.

 No.3008

>>2989
This seems like a reasonable interpretation to me.

 No.3150

I recently watched a documentary called "Tiny: A story about living small" that's pretty much available everywhere for free. Check Hulu or Netflix for it.

It's about a 20-something year old guy who decided that he wanted to build a tiny house. The documentary is mostly about his building process and putting together a house on wheels without any expertise or training, but it also interviews a lot of people who have built and live in their own tiny houses.

A lot of these people seem to get by just fine with a few solar panels and a hose to get some water, but it is a pretty drastically reduced style of living.

One of the interesting things I learned is that because they are built on trailer platforms, tiny houses are considered temporary structures, meaning they don't have to comply with that vast majority of building codes, which is the biggest issue a lot of people face when trying to build their own homes or buy land to live off of.

Would be kind of interesting to buy a nice chunk of land and start a small sustainable community with nothing but tiny houses. Would save a ton of space and alleviate a lot of the problems that might come with trying to build a commune from scratch.

 No.3159

>>3150
It all depends on how much cash investment we getMr(s). Anon. If we do it in chile we can pose as a start up, and maybe get the 40k they offer. I rather live in a bigger house along with other people, but again it is not up to me. The small houses are a good idea as well. They are mobile and possibly cheap, so for the first settlers tiny houses would be ideal.

 No.3171

>>3159
From what I've researched, tiny houses can run as little at 3k, though those are more like rustic cabins on wheels, all the way up to 30k+, but those one ones where the owners insisted on paying for brand new hardwood for the walls floors and sides.. Looks really nice, I suppose. Most of the more reasonably priced examples have been from people who salvaged, scavenged, used craigslist, retrofitted, and innovated wherever possible.

The best way to look at it, though, is that it's a home. Not an apartment or a car or some kind of fancy toy. It's something you are meant to live in for years to come. Plus, depending on what you outfit it with, you won't be paying rent or mortgage on it. Debt free, low cost living. When you remove those things from your life, you're left with a lot more free income in the long run. That's possibly one of the most important parts.

Either way, a self-sustainable village of tiny homes on wheels would be pretty neat, and if it ends up in a part of the country where zoning laws aren't too oppressive, it could eventually grow into a more permanent settlement.

 No.3221

>>3171
maybe this could be good for /newland/?
I wonder if /nambia/ will want to do this, though they are fucking retarded

 No.3268

>>3221
/newland/ is all happening in Chile, yeah?

I suppose the viability of tiny houses weighs entirely on how easy or hard it is to secure reasonably priced building materials, and whether or not Chile has any kind of zoning and building code governmental agency that might show up and fuck with your poppycock.

The US is absolutely fucked on a state by state basis when it comes to tiny houses and zoning, which is why so many people use the trailer loophole.

 No.3273

>>3268
Yup, Chile it is. I'll look into it's zoning regulations and possibly make a new thread about it there, though the project seems kind of dead



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